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  • PETER GRIFFIN!!!!!

  • Looks like you're watching a mirror

  • Looking like that it looks like a Philco Predicta prototype. Amazing picture for the era.

  • FAKE ! FAKE ! FAKE ! WHERE IS THE 1949 SCREEN CRAP RESOLUTION !

  • It's interesting that the TV back then were more round than today. It can really effect the sense of how a person sees the visual information. Technology really has progressed alot.. And today.. now we can even see in stereoscope (3D). And ofcouse we can see image in MUCH LARGER screen... and all that progress within half a century.

  • I love it i would love to get one of those beats any modern stuff by a mile

  • That is awesome!

  • anyone notice that there are beter graphics in a movie from the the 1950's than there is in a movie from the 70's?

  • @ilike2cheatatgames and both eras are better looking than modern cgi crap.

  • I also thought this was faked, not because I have any knowledge of these TVs, but I just didn't think a 1949 television was capable of this level of clarity. We had a 1960's b&w TV that didn't look nearly this good, nor did anyone else's in the neighborhood, but I'm sure that had more to do with over the air signal strength and quality of the antenna than the capability of the picture tube.

  • lol It's very 1984'ish.

  • Wow what a clear picture for such an old device

  • It looks like the witch's crystal ball from The Wizard Of Oz.

  • how much was this when it came out?

  • cool one

  • nooooo how can i see how many lives i have left on spyro 2?

  • How would you measure this screen size in pixels?

  • To all those who want to convince others the picture is fake, It is not. I get the same picture quality on my '53 Packard Bell. If you look at the 2 'o clock position, You'll see a light reflect off the tube that washes into the picture, the picture curves with the tube, and if you look real hard, You can see the individual pixels above the picture. Also, If the shutter speed is slowed down, a picture tube is easily recorded to look as if you're standing right in front of it.

  • Hi im interested in these types of old tv cuz I think they look cooler then the new tv's now and I know most peope my age will say "why u want that piece of garbage booo!!" but can that old tv play vhs or dvd? or even playstation? i know not in color but play them at all?? ty

  • @ndgh209

    The signal is coming from a DVD player via a 75 ohm transformer connected to the antenna terminals, A $3 part.

  • @ndgh209

    Yes, these TV's are completely retro-cool. Folks that can't understand that don't have a clue; they are mere fools! Why have a 1000000" panel digital color TV with all the digital motion artifacts when you can have a perfectly clear B/W analog picture with a TV like this?!

  • classic

  • I'm not surprised the wood cabinet didn't last. I have a 1980's Mitsu (Mitsubishi), and the particle board frame is already starting to crumble.

  • I don't get it. even back then in the 40s,50s.

    TV shows/Movies were all made for a 4:3 ( except theatre/cinema) on television, why have it as a circle, it would cut out some of the picture, even from a 1950s standpoint.

  • @NESHero the reason to "have it as a circle", is that early CRT's were mostly used as military and scientific osciiloscope displays, and that the circular displays served the purpose at the time. To "Monday-Morning Quarterback" the issue, is the sign of modern punks who examine the past with a predisposed bias that exposes them as carnival-circus clowns, masquerading in 21st century rags.

  • @NESHero Simple, the technology to create rectangular CRTS didn't exist until the early 50s. There's a tremendous about of pressure exerted on the glass and circular is the strongest shape.

  • Picture resolution is too good. The CRT's (cathode ray tubes) in the early days were not good enough to produce such a sharp picture. Those were the days of grey or greyer screens, not silver screen black and white.

  • @Moronvideos1940 grey? what the hell is that? I started watching TV in 1949, and it was Green/Grey and nothing else. GREEN, do you hear me? There were some Yellow/Gray and Red/Gray screens, but they were specially designed for scientific use.

  • @elmerhdga I assume you're joking. They all used white P4 phosphor CRTs. The green P1 phosphor is used in scopes. P7 blue/yellow and P12 orange in radar.

    Hoffman sets used war surplus green tinted safety glass to cut costs, but still had P4 picture tubes.

  • @Moronvideos1940 Sure they were. I have dozens of sets like this from the late 40s and they produce very bright sharp pictures when the CRTs have strong emissions. The 10FP4 aluminized CRT came out in 1947 and was used in several early GE sets like the 802.

  • badass tv...the future

  • Btw, you look at any 1949/50 port hole they all have the same picture as this one. So it's not super imposed. It's a tv from 1949, it is what it is.

  • I've seen one of these sell on ebay the other day for like a 100 bucks. Some guy picked it up at a garage sale and it had no cord but was fully complete. I'm like how about getting a cord and seeing if it's working before selling. I'd love to get one of these for shits n giggles.

  • The picture on this is simply superb! The crt must be like new or NOS.

  • A Porthole Television!

  • its magic!

  • i still have one of these, play my xbox on iy

  • I would say its a fake too but I'm surprised by the fact no one mentioned this but if you look at about 2 o clock on the upper right edge of the screen, there is a reflection of light, that also spills onto the screen. That's proof that it's authentic.

  • dat ting not neer az good az my faltsrceen tosheebugh i wanna smash dat

  • Some old tymer mentioned cabinets or furnishing models where optional on the certain early tv sets(possibly kit sets) in Canada perhaps some were purchased without a cabinet or some owners would buy it later.

  • After 50 years as a T.V. engineer, I would put my reputation on that being a SUPER-IMPOSED picture on a blank screen. The picture does not curve with the edges of the screen, the linearity is too perfect for a set of that time and the definition is far too sharp to be a real "live" picture on that type of set. Good try though!

  • @23565120

    Look closely at the rounded edges. Yes, there is a clearly visible curvature to the picture. How can that be faked?

  • ITS A TRAP!

  • Sorry, wurley, but for all sorts of techy reasons* I believe that picture is superimposed. Which is a shame, as we'd like to see what it really looks like.

    * no evidence whatsoever of AC coupling

    *no evidence whatsoever of frame or line flicker

    * no evidence whatsoever of geometrical distortion or scan non-linearity

  • @JayBS1000

    What are you talking about!??????

    I don't understand your tech talk rant but can assure you nothing is superimposed. I've restored several of these 1940's-50's black & white sets with great results. Most of the time replacing all the paper caps and electrolytics brings these old relics back to life. The video shows a restored and working TV with a bright 12LP4 CRT, I have no reason to superimpose the video.

  • @wurly1100 American television sets have (had) interpolating lines. Which means two sets of lines light up and shut off at a very fast rate. It is invisible to the human eye, but when you film it, it will make black lines roll down the screen; however, there are none. Which is why it looks fake. I am not going to argue if it is, or is not, though.

  • @UnchainTheNight1

    The video was shot with a sony handycam hi-8mm camcorder. I remember iI had to set it to slow shutter and adjust the AE setting so the bright CRT wouldn't wash out. My Canon HD camcorder doesn't have the same options as that old handycam so sometimes I get that half shadow on the screen depending on the angle or tilt of the HD camcorder. The video is not fake, If I still had the set I would film it better at different angles.

  • @wurly1100 Don't listen to haters, is the first step. They are either jealous or mentally challenged and let their anger out on enthusiasts who just want to demonstrate old technology.

  • @UnchainTheNight1 INTERLACING lines.

  • @jjovereats Yeah interpolating means something totally different. lol

  • @UnchainTheNight1 I have a relatively cheap Aiptek MV5 that actually has a mode for filming television so that the lines disappear. Those lines you speaker of ( the small ones) are often very hard to make out especially if you have a super high quality signal like a DVD of the remastered programming that this Honeymooners segment probably is, and you have a good eye at adjusting the brightness and contrast.

  • @wurly1100

    I don't understand your tech talk rant

    I thought you were a restorer of ancient TV's. Surely the relevant "tech talk" would be bread and butter to you.

  • @JayBS1000 ur an idiot

  • @JayBS1000 It is not superimposed. In fact look in the description. It says it was restored.

  • oh my god i could never watch a bluray or dvd in black and white it is a shame they had to do that

  • @confuse People who say they can't watch things in black and white are idiots.

  • @richardmaudsley77 am i a idiot i do knot think i could watch and enjoy a bluray on a black and white telly

  • @confuse After 5 seconds you forget it's in black and white.

    Eyes care more about how light or dark something is than what colour.

  • @richardmaudsley77 in my old house wehn we couldnt afford a color telly my mum just put colored see through paper over the screen and it was ok

  • @confuse

    Who are "they"? If you mean that people back in the 1950's/ 60's were disadvantaged by not being able to watch DVDs etc. in colour, then you might be mentally challenged.

    You see, back then, their main problem in this area was that if you wanted to watch something on TV that wasn't scheduled, then most people couldn't watch it. There was no way of plugging anything into a TV except an aerial- and nothing that plugged into a TV had been invented apart from aerial adapter equipment.

  • @anonUK yes i understand but im just saying if i was in the 60s i would be really bored because i couldnt just put a dvd on and i wouldnt want to if that was the color of my telly screen

  • does the set still have any of the original can caps in it or did you replace them all. video is perfect. orignal crt as well ?

  • @outatime1955 I'll drink to that.

  • haha nice could you adjust a xbox360 or older game console to it that would be cool to see mafia 2 or assassins creed on it. nice set dude @wurly1100

  • Don't you ever sell this stuff! It is museum quality, and after you leave the planet, your collection belongs in such a museum. Thanks so much for uploading. It gives me great pleasure.

  • The picture youre getting is nothing less than awesome, youre crt must test near 100%, even after all these years. I kept my '50 motorola out of the cabinet after i restored it for months like this, getting a thrill each time i turned it on, to see those old tubes begin to glow.

  • CHEAP THINGS LIKE MADE IN CHINA...

  • The year my grandmother was born into.

  • Very nice chassis!  Nice job.

  • I LOVE THIS! Thanks

  • What is that worth today?

  • wow that is awsome! it still works?!!!! that is so cool!

  • That's cool I wish I could go back to the mid 1940s or 1950s just for like a week that would b sweet time traveling lol. I think my generation I'm 22 and younger take all the technology they have for granted!

  • I wanna touch it :O

  • What kind of CRT is it?

  • 12" CRT, 12LP4

  • I love it! I, too, restore old tube electronics. All these old items have point to point wiring and one can really see and appreciate the human touch that lives in these old and forgotten items.

    Great Job!

  • Most early picture tubes were round, even televison sets all the way into the 80's were slightly rounded or bubble shaped. The sony triniton was one of the first sets that had a squarish picture. I'm sure most of the time directors would back the camera up slightly to compensate for anything that got cut off in the edges. This show looks a little cut off though.

  • étonnant que cela fonctionne encore! o_0

  • Its looks like a LCD screen

  • @wurly1100, just delete those ridiculous comments made by the younger crowd who have no clue. Great job on the restoration job, the picture quality is awesome.

  • nice, Where did you find this set?

  • cool tv i like the 1940s tecnolagy

  • I am very happy for you. The television looks great.

    I am a collector of radios and electric shavers.

    Greetings from Argentina.

  • I still don't understnad why ealr ytelevision screens were so oval, or like this one, completely circular. How did it go from that to the current rectangular screens most of us have?

  • i think this is totally cool and appreciate being able to watch such a comedic, pioneer show like this on it. THANK YOU, wurly!!

    still, i'm not getting the "round" design at all. no camera was ever devised to record round (as far as i know), so why design a TV that way? am i right? or, am i right?

  • that is fascinating that they designed it round. sitcom corners are overrated anyway!

  • Awesome, great image quality!

  • It looks cooler without a cabinet!

  • I'd like to buy this...and build a cabinet just for it :-) Shoot me a return message please!

  • I have the original cabinet for this chassis. You can see it in my other video "Disneyland Opening" I gave the set to my cousin who really enjoys watching it.

  • I have a related video on YouTube you might be interested in about how television sets were sold from the 1950s-1970s entitled, "TV MAN: THE SEARCH FOR THE LAST INDEPENDENT DEALER."

  • Ted Turner is IN the TV!

  • @outatime1955 yeah i know i have a couple of tvs made in australia (thats where i live) and the tvs i have say proudly made in australia and now they say made in china things are just not the same anymore

  • Do you have any televisions from the late 1930's?

  • This seems to have been a forerunner of those "futuristic" TV sets from the late 1950's. The portable-looking ones with white housings and circular screens?

  • That's really cool!

  • growing up in the 80s .I learned how to restore tvs like these.I am a big fan when it comes to tube tvs

  • @peugteobike me too mate i used to have a non working ge tv with tubes ut i could not restore it i have tubes in a box

  • Why in the hell should it be thrown in the trash just because it doesn't have the cabinet? People like you are why we're in the "Throw away" generation....Sad....

  • @Cruiseomatic1989 Yeah, really!! Everything is disposible now and it is bullshit!!! I agree, the TV is just fine without the cabinet on it and it also looks bad ass!!!!

  • different over scan sweep directions, speed, amnt of scan lines, are lower on B-Ws, thats the reason B-Ws get burn-in very easily

  • Gazing in my crystal ball, I see a loudmouth bus driver from Brooklyn and his buddy the sewer worker in your future...

  • give everyone a good laugh and hook up a 360 to it or something :P

  • Would that actual be possible? I can only see it having a RF input, nout stopping you from trying with a PS3 though (with an old RF playstation cable)

  • @consoletimmy would be just like how they hooked up that DVD player. if its not standard NTSC or pal, I do know they make scan converters for this sort of thing

  • @consoletimmy if you were good with television internals and had an idea of how its laid out in a particular set, you could find out where the tuner output is and inject a composite video signal there. and do the same for the audio circuit.

  • very cool never saw a pitchure on a round screen befroe but i seen them .very awsome love the honeymooners great choice

  • Whoa. Never seen a TV like that!

  • I like that TV, I never so been before watching the circle TV on youtube in real world. Wow!

  • did cameras back then film in a picture viewable by a circle or something?

  • no picture tubes were just made round. These images can be displayed on a regular TV just the same.

  • No, electronics within the television bent/filtered the image to fit the visible constraints of the picture tube. If you were to be watch the same video, same physical media, but on a square television, it would be square, etc...

  • I always hated round screen TV's. But awesome videio nonetheless.

  • ...admiral was an american company. im saying that they built them good back in the day

  • because they built 'em good

  • weird... watching TV on youtube's screen, on my monitor...

    almost artistic

  • Film it, then watch it. That'd make it kinda Escher-esque.

  • nah best is a webcam connected to a computer running a webcam display program (realtime)

    it makes an infinite loop... very cool

  • Oh, I like that! Good idea :D

  • Re: "This set would have been around 7-8 years old when this episode aired". Not quite. The Honeymooners in 1941? Try 1951.

  • You got your arithmetic backwards. If a 1949 set were 7-8 years old when the episode aired, the episode was 7-8 years AFTER 1949, not BEFORE! And the series started in 1955, not 1951!

  • Think before you correct someone lol

  • Wow~it's a little porthole window on TV land!

  • Cool! This set would have been around 7-8 years old when this episode aired :)

  • could anyone tell me what the quality of tvs from the 50s was like compared to today? i used to assume that the newest technology was the best until i got a record player and realize that CDs and MP3s can't compare. is there any similar advantage to owning an antique tv?

  • well, with music, your records are an actual representation of the music whereas cds and mp3s are stripped down versions of the audio (they chop the sound into little pices for ur ipod to digest faster) but with the tele, old ones only had so many pixels and the quality of the cameras werent so great, so the technology is getting better

  • yea, that's what i figured. but i think i might still buy an old tv, just because they look cool

  • yeah that thing looks dope

    the way everything curves near the edges

    and it has this almost hollow glow to it

  • Well stuff was put together back then and today there put together cheap my projection broke 2 days ago and i bought it a month ago

  • for music sound, vinyl is the best than CD.

  • @breen234 considering with a little bit of work that a 60 year old television can still be watched, not to mention how much cooler they look than new tv's... i would say there are certain advantages to vintage tvs.

  • @rockabillycat1954

    Yeah, like turning them on 5 minutes before a show started to let the tubes warm up, then spend time adjusting the verticle and horizontal hold, then pray you can fin a replacement tube when one goes. (and you can't, they don't make them anymore)

  • Wow its so clear!

  • Wow - I have the same TV! Mine's been sitting on a shelf for about 20 years though and I'll I can get is static. You've inspired me to take another whack at it. Any idea where I might find a schematic?

    Thanks

  • You might check your local library for a Sams Photofact. I'd send you my copy but I already gave it away.

    Jim

  • i looked up the schematic for my antique radio, online, you can also get in touch with old radio and tv forums and they know where to get everything and anything. youll make some friends and get expert advice from the guys whove been restoring stuff like this for years. i got some knobs from a guy in one of those forums.

  • Thanks for the tip. I joined the Philco Phorum a few weeks ago and have received a lot of great advice on radios. Admiral and TVs in general are something new for me so any info is much appreciated.

  • elixers and schematics.....heheheheh

  • @deru0136 there is a publication called sams photofact. they have been around since 1946, and they publish schematics for consumer devices. go to their website and type in the model number... there you can see if they have that schematic and you can purchase a copy of it.

  • Wonderful television! I spied one like this at a flea market a year or two back, but didn't have the wallet for it. Would love to have a crack at restoring one, being a nice step up from radios. Good stuff.

  • What are you talking about?? Superimposed??

    It's a working vintage TV I restored, The signal/picture is stronger and clearer because the source is from a DVD connected to the antenna terminals on the chassis via a 75 ohm transformer. You can even see a light glare/reflection from the overhead ceiling light on the edge of the picture and picture tube, how could I supereimpose that. "Dude"

  • @wurly1100 i had almost that same tv but mine was newer and it used a 12BP4

  • don't fight he's an IDIOT who has never left his living room or been around electronics, no doubt.

  • You sir are an idiot....... TVs back then were pretty clear. To many people believe that old electronics had poor quality but infact they were built like tanks and did what they were supposed to do.

    There are THOUSANDS of people that restore sets like this. And you can find tons of videos of restored sets here on youtube.

  • I think that the signal strength was not quite as good as it is today. If you were close to the transmitter, the picture was great. I had a farm 4 miles from a UHF transmitter, the pic was crystal clear!

  • I know firsthand that old electronics provide great quality. I own a tube-based console from the 1940s, and it sounds excellent. In reality, newer audio equipment sounds like shite, and newer tellies look like shite, too.

  • I like old technology. And... this TV have got a very big value today.

  • It is an amazing tv a credit to the makers. But it so good that circular tv screens did not become the norm

  • Feels more like a "Portal" than a tv Guess thats what they wanted to feel like

  • Is this the way the TV really looked, or is it out of the case, I can't tell from the video. GREAT picture quality! The set reminds me of the Philco (I think) TV set that had the picture tube "floating" in a brace on top of the tuner box. Got any of those?

  • Im sure it had a very nice wooden cabinet as most primitive electronics had in those days. (but you still couldn't watch tv in the shower. ZAP!!)

  • wow the image looks clearer than a new led tv screen lol, no halo afterglow or anything

  • I agree with you 100%. LCD is crap and I'm sick of all the hype it's getting. Honestly I am not impressed by the display of today's LCD and Plasma's. CRT forever!!!

  • you see these white halo afterglows around the images, it sux lol. im no the only one who sees it, how can it even be called new technology, crts are the pure image being beamed through the lines not a digitized image which has the computer put it back to gether in the tv, the images are terrible on the lcd theres glitches pixelation white halo effect around moving images. these old tvs never had that and from seeing how clear this images its incredible!!!

  • Even though a 1956 "HONEYMOONERS" episode appears on screen, some people who still owned this particular model back then watched it this way. Appropriately, an image of a scene from Admiral's "LIGHTS OUT" series on NBC [Mondays, 9pm(et)], which they sponsored in '49, would be more fitting, but finding one of those episodes on home video is a bit challenging...

  • Very classy TV set. It is nice to see it in such nice shape and working. Someone expressed about being amazed how older technology outlasts the new. My uncle (who worked for an appliance factory for years) explained that the newer technologies now are engineered to last for so long. It is a way to gain more profit, as sick as that sounds. I thin he was referring to appliances, but no doubt would apply that to other technologies. Sad to think of that as being fact :/

  • well I don't know.. technology is progressing so fast nowadays that it's just not practical to make long-lasting products... at least that counts for such technological products. not for other stuff of coarse (though that doesn't exclude them, unfortunately).. I like durability, but it seems we're getting much more into a recycling age now, which doesnt need to be a bad thing. If only people would recycle some more instead of throwing stuff away.. :)

  • WOW! That Must Be VERY RARE! These Days, I Have Never Seen One Of These, The Picture Quality Is FANTASTIC! Considering How Old It Is

  • old stuff is better in its day. All this new crap (plasmas) last about 4 years if that.

    Heres this lasting 60 years lol

  • Well There's Something To Be Said For "Old Technology" I Think The Good Old Stuff Is JUST GREAT!

  • Is it possible to get a copy of this e-mailed to me? I teach a Broadcast Video Production class, and this would fit in perfectly in my History of Television unit.

  • Actually the reason for the switch to digital is not for a better picture. Analog takes up a lot of spectrum. Currently on channels 2-69. Digital will only broadcast to channel 59. The cellphone companies, fire and police are fighting over the unused channels.

  • A satellite only uses about 20 watts to broadcast digital from space. Or do they?