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  • The best aspect is the continual popup, "BUY ON AMSXON!" LOL

    For those yapping about Jesus in the Middle Ages, there is a snippet of Egyptian papyrus of the Gospel of John carbon dated circa 110 AD,. I know, it's either a conspiracy or a fake or carbon dating does is not "real". The lack of critical thinking is frightening.

  • according to the Vedas of India and other great histories and texts such as those found in Egypt the history of man goes back much farther than we are told, according to the Vedas perhaps even millions of years, before scoffing pls see

    the research of Michael Cremo and evidence of humans going back millions of years

  • History is written by the victor. All it takes is a few good lies and oceans of flood to stamp out the truth forever.

  • Umm okay a mathematician has a theory about history, thats like saying "oh im the greatest scientist so im gonna talk about how awkward the english language sounds" wel he is a language arts teacher so he shouldnt be teaching english, same to that russian math guy, stick to math

  • I thought human stupidity couldn't get any worse. I was wrong.

  • First off I must say that this is retarded to think that historians would lie about their research...ps to all those Christian haters I must say read the book and try our way before you criticize it... Also to the guy quoting scripture we can't say for sure where or who the anti christ will come from

  • You are part of the misinformation group.

  • What a bunch of garbage. I agree that all the dates given for certain things are off to some extent, but you can't honestly believe that Jesus was born in the 11th century... Aside from 1 author (excluding bible), there is actually no evidence Jesus even existed, so to have factual proof he existed in the 11th century just proves this book is full of shit. I know of 2 people who have read this garbage, and they think it's a severe warping of the truth, and it's ALL theoretical.

  • Ah! The video won't load play past 1:33 . Anyone else have this problem?

  • What happened 1053 years before Christ?

  • Not another conspiracy theory!

  • so, the bible, a book of fiction, suddenly means therefore all history has been bent?

  • complete shite , we still couldn't build the giza pyramid today and there are buildings monuments built with stones we have no way of lifting today . this sounds like new world order propaganda because people are getting closer to the truth .

  • Oh Shist! You mean things happened in cycles even before I was born!!!! Ok, so history is the propaganda of the past. I knew that. Math is like theology you can prove anything If you start from false or unprovable premises. People are so gullible. Damn, if I only lacked morels I could be rich!

  • And what are the supposed motives behind these lies? Why are we being lied to? So that actual historians, and not chess players, can have a few lols? What a load of bullshit, there's SO MUCH evidence to support history as we know it. One chess players' poxy little hypothesis isn't going to make me change my mind. Get some evidence for your bullshit and I might be interested -__-.

    Dan

  • holy shit

  • dude you need to stay of the acid

  • "solid scientific facts": lol. I LOVE how those crooks are always selling their bs.. jo, sure, solid scientific facts) old like the world..well known conspiracy to hide that..! seriously: sickening video again: now, 'they' want to deconstruct human history lol..supa..!..ps: and yes, civilization come and..go, alas. usually internal economical collapses.all arts-science brutally stopped..till a new one can go on them again. Last empire to collapse soon: america..^ u will understand then (sigh) !

  • Stupid, stupid, stupid!

  • The entire religiously influenced literature is crap. Jesus is an invention and so is everything else in history. Only the facts are relevant. And facts are objects, not scripture. I dont need a book to tell me that others books lying about history. Of course they do. Has anyone believed this crap anyway?

  • Anyway, two things transpire out of this.

    One we don't know the truth, the other we need excitement to live. The third, I forgot is that life can in reality be a constantly evolving and devolving product subject to unknown or not very well known forces driven by imagination of God, gods , people and who have you..

  • LMAO It's your money not mine.

    I highly recommend all of you to download it for free from where ever you can get it.

    Keep in mind if you assert or dispute something you must base anything you say with facts and evidence.

    How do you know someone landed on the moon, was it all a Hollywood production?

    How big is the the USA, are other governments in the world just an extension of the world empire of the USA after all the UN is NY and not anywhere else?

    Same bull shit with this series.

  • Believing in something and accepting it as the truth just because it handed down over the generations doesn't necessarily make it the truth. Ever heard of the grapevine effect? It's impossible to extrapolate absolutes through word of mouth and writings and pictures done on papyrus and parchment. The only real truth exists in every moment, every second, every breath of the now.

  • court historians knew how to please their kings. this video might not be true, but doesn't mean what we have been told is the truth. Usually somewhere in the middle.

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  • im going to write a book,,,called my version of history...i will make up a load of questions to pose at gullable veiwers......~*bangs head against wall*~ then u will see that jesus in fact lived in london as a paperboy in the 1930's and the egyptians only finished the sphynx 40 years ago after spraying it with a hose for ages to make it look old,,,,,FOOLS lol

  • puredenton

    re Jesus and the promised land!?

    You must research the Mormons.

  • Okay. Davd Icke is entertaining, Ufo and ghost videos are interesting. Conspiracies of various types range from fascinatingly imaginative to hilarious. But this......Only mathemeticians are this disconnected from reality I guess....

  • *applaudes*

  • These people do realise that if they're arguing against humanity's suppoedly implausible rate of scientific advancement that what they propose (Jesus being cruified in 1,000 AD for example) means that humanity must therefore have advanced EVEN FASTER that histroy says it did, right? Do these people evne think about what they're saying before they say it?

  • And I notice it's always mathematicians who do this sort of thing... There are also prominent mathematicians in the Young Earth and Creationism movements... it's weird...

  • who ARE these people?! lol

  • Wahahahahahaha! *sigh*

    Sorry, but to think that one man can rewrite the entire history of the world...

    And now a word from our sponsors...

  • F**k that! if that were true, why would there not have been a roman version of the bible? they had to translate it no? those guys are just feeding your curiosity because they can do a lot of fancy math that you can't......why would we have the year so fucked up? man was obviously intelligent enough to count even then?

  • @jointfunk actually, not to try and counter anything you said, but the Romans kind of did have their version of the bible, at least the new testament. The new testament was written in Greek and Latin originally, instead of Hebrew.

  • this is unbelievably turd.... Ive never heard such balderdash in my life,... And I've listened to Afrocentric fool babble on but they cant compare to this.

  • Why is a russian mathematician trying to do the work of historians.

  • What do you have to take to think this stuff up?

  • lol omg im pretty sure they got final fantasy 7 music playing in the background

  • That fits it perfectly because this guy is a fucking moron and this guy's perspective on reality is a fucking fantasy, too pussy and geeky to have his REAL voice on a recording, blurts out statements with no proof and no evidence, where are his citations? Fuck this noob.

  • This guy is one of the biggest nut cases I've came accross. How does he explain away the body of a man they found in the middle of a solid block of marble. The marble formed millions of years ago. History may be wrong but I would put my money on it being longer. Much, much longer. This is utter drivel.

  • they really found that? I'd be interested to learn more about it, no sarcasm....thats awesome, I wanna learn

  • wtf im preety sure rome was not a fairy tale actually im 100percent positive rome was a real thing and not created in the middle ages  some people i guess r just born ignorent dont believe this video

  • dont believe everything you read in wikipedia

  • Lmao this is such bullshit it aint even funny no more. The reason society's were held back for long periods of time is mostly RELIGION!! Or any other BLIND and STUPID ideology!!! Like Facism or communism or conservatism or free marktests etc etc. Humanity always needs to strive for better and not for the same! This idiot is presenting his fairytale religion as fact and what he doesnt understand is that his dumbass regligion burnt many books about humanity's past ,thats why it doesnt ad up

  • Oh really? So the fact that the Catholic Church created a stability in Europe that was unparalleled, and founded the university system and developed the scientific method, and missonaries brought back knowledge from the far corners of earth had nothing to do with the technological boom during the middle ages and renaissance?

    Role of the Roman Catholic Church in civilization - Wikipedia

  • I read or heard about a man who developed a vacuum chamber in England and people accused him of witchcraft and such. He put a bird in the chamber and it died because it didn't have air. That's when they opened this house of science where people could conduct experiments under strict supervision.

    Also Johannes Kepler was banished from his hometown for not converting to catholicism.

    So you can't really pretend like the Catholic church helped stimulate science.

  • I will have to see proof for the first one. If it did happen that doesn't mean it had anything to do with the Catholic Church. Also, Kepler did get caught between the tensions of the reformatiuon tensions in Germany, but it had nothing to do with his research.

    You can't use these weak arguments to try and prove the Catholic Church was anti-science.

  • I'm not saying it's anti science but religion didn't stimulate science either. The majority of people believed god was responsible for everything and by stating otherwise you were condemned as a heretic. Didn't the church also forbid the teachings of the earth revolving around the earth as apposed to the other way around?

    And Keplers banishing might not have inherently have to do with his research but by expelling him from society they indirectly slowed down his progress.

  • Well I can point out that everything from the Big Bang theory to Genetics and radiology have priests as their founding fathers and had the Church funding their research. I guess it's up to you to prove the contrary.

  • The church did not condemn the teaching of a heliocentric universe in theory. Many clergy believed in it and there were many debates on the subject. The fact was that it had not yet been proven and it was not allowed to taught as FACT. There were good arguments against it that could not be refuted for another 200 years.

  • Many supporters of the heliocentric had the Church funding and supporting their research including Galileo who lost the Churches support for disobeying the pope and mocking him in a book that the Pope commissioned him to write. The fact that he believed what he did had nothing to do with his mistreatment.

  • I argue that without religion we would have probably been a lot further in life and science then we are today. I believe in fun loving and experimental people (kind of like chimpanzees are naturally) rather then tenacious religious people. Religion has just made it that much harder for scientist to express their point of view.

  • Technological development is steadily increasing in speed because the technology we invent increases out capacity for more development. The train made travel quicker, the telephone made communication instant, and the computer ... well, we all know what it helped us achieve. Any progress before was painstaking and difficult and took time to spread throughout society.

  • I would argue that it was the Church that created the stability and educational system that allowed us to have our technology boom of the last 500 years .

  • Well I disagree with the point that the Church created stability religious history always strikes me as chaotic and irrational. However you have made some interesting points about religious scientists namely the guy who invented the big bang theory. So you have at least slightly changed my opinion about things. I will try to invest some time in the catholic universities and see what else I can learn.

    Thank you for enlightening me and not being an asshole about it :-)

  • Please do. I myself once had the same doubts and misconceptions. I was really quite surprised to learn these facts I have shared with you. And thank you for taking the time to consider my points honestly. YouTube is abound with assholes these days, both religious and secular.

    This is an interesting essay, Role of the Roman Catholic Church in civilization-Wikipedia.

  • It misses some important facts like the creation of the university system and its contribution to the development of the scientific method, but it should give you an interesting view of the Church that you have never seen before.

  • his thesis is plastered all over these stupid videos, there´s no point in wasting my time reading that garbage, while i think he may have been off to a good start by saying that a lot of chronology as we know it is fabricated, he goes way beyond that to the point of being absurd

    you would like to suggest that all history prior to the 12th century is entirely a fabrication??? dribble

  • this is absolutely ridiculous

    there's a whole lot of assumptions made as well as a major misunderstanding of the study of history, i wouldn't even know where to start to criticize this merde!

    i'd like to know how he explains all of these 16th century people (who must have been pretty freaking busy forging their own timeline as well as thousands of others), invented a slew of languages and ancient monuments, the theory simply doesn't work even from a conceptual standpoint

  • lol is that some computer what's talking xD sounds pretty real. at least better than microsoft sam

  • you must buy my book . the bible has been used to find dig locations. and missing Kings.

  • Quack!

  • It's not that ancient empires seized developement... they didn't... they simply became extremely, extremely powerfull and extremely advanced (for their time). Than it reach a point where they became overconfident and too self assured and too proud of themselves and became arrogant and fell into debauchery.

    That moral corruption caused by their being overly proud of their scientific and political achievements etc. led to their downfall... if we doubt that history, we reach the same state as they

  • Solid scientfic facts? You've gotta be kidding! This is utter bollux. The only controversay is whether the Russian idiot author should have his ideas refuted, or just be totally ignored.

    And what's with the robot voice? Couldn't you find a real person prepared to spout this drivel?

  • And all to lend credence to the idea that the evil Romanovs triumphed over the noble Slavs. Yes, yes, i would forge millions of pages worth of MS tradition to do that. You have convinced me!

  • . Scaliger must have been a really busy man to forge the works of (in no particular order) Thucydides, Herodotus, Arrian, Appian, Plutarch, Ammianus Marcellinus, Eusebius, Justin Martyr, Cyprian, Tertullian, Bede, Adomnan, Philo, Josephus, Zosimus, Cassius Dio, Chrysostom, Boethius, Epictetus, Xenophon, Hesiod, etc, etc, etc to name but a few of the authors that are supposed to have never existed.

  • Why does Kasparov have to write the intro? Let a historian write it rather than a chess player and I might take it seriously. The stupidity of assuming that there has to be a mathematical linear progression to technological evolution is beyond belief! Yet this is the central premise of the book. He abuses free speech when he peddles this trash. Try suggesting to Muslims that the Qur'an and the Hadiths were compiled by Scaliger. See how far that line of reasoning takes you.

  • Why is the narrator speaking so disjointedly and with such peculiar syntax? "just howtrue all ofthis is?" etc. Why should i believe an ad for a book that doesn't conform to the laws of grammar, yet expects to rewrite history. There has been no controversy among historians as such. Check out Anatoly Fomenko on Wikipedia. His work has been ignored for the nonsense it is. Menzies' theories are better for all their problems yet even he has been ignored. Quite simply, these guys are wrong

  • The syntax is disjointed, because it's being narrated by a computer.

  • I'm going to have to agree with Jelly. It's suspicious that all the information derives itself from Russian sources and testimonies. This could be Russian counter-Propaganda on Industrial Capitalism since America is indoctrinated to the Corporate history world. Every American History school book has been revised and fabricated by corporate public relations. I can see a counter propaganda approach through this book. Of course this is only speculation...

  • I guess I am echoing much of what has been said below. If, according to the video Jesus was around in 1036AD, who's the guy 1,000 years before him? If history did not occur in the chronology that was taught in school, then who is behind this sham and why? And lastly, things come and go in history like they do in our lives. Remember your favourite song back when you were 16yrs old? The song is still there, it's just that you have moved on to other things, same with progress and inventions.

  • The British Encyclopaedia names Joseph Justus Scaliger (1540-1609) as the founder of the consensual chronology we live with. Scaliger had considered himself a great mathematician and boasted to have solved the classical "ancient" mathematical 'Quadrature of Circle' problem that was subsequently proven insoluble.

  • the ancient greeks are a lie

  • this is true

  • (cont.) However in the past, indigenous cultures (like Egypt) valued a relationship to earth, and hence their structures (which precision we are unable to duplicate) were made to commemorate our relationship to earth, the stars, etc... The Japanese and the French tried to build a simple pyramid first the way they thought it was done, but when this failed, then with modern equipment. The result amounted to an amateurish effort to duplicate what was done before. How did they do it? It is not known

  • No, I'm not saying things we have now were invented in the past, but that people in the past were capable of inventing them. Technology is a matter of culture. We develop technology depending on what our culture considers important. In the modern world, the accumulation of wealth is of supreme importance. And developing weapons to protect this wealth is valued. Hence our technology progressed in this arena.

  • "Laughable"? Well I won't insult your intelligence because progress is the buzz word these days, but the further one goes back, and when one examines civilizations that were around for many years (like the Egyptians - 5000), then it becomes abundantly clear that there was a deep appreciation for arts, science, etc... even surpassing modern man's. 2 examples: 1) Architecture (Egypt had a much more advanced understanding) 2) Astronomy/Astrology (the egyptian calendar was just as accurate as now.)

  • Let me respond to this, I don't agree with the above video, but history hasn't progressed upward. It's progressed, digressed, and progressed again, depending on the length of a civilization's existence. There is nothing new under the sun. Math, science, architecture, etc. at an advanced level was already known. So please modern man (especially Western man) get off your high horse.

  • feels like a blatant commercial

  • the human race is one sinonomous with amnesia

  • this makes a good point but it almost totally unlikley

  • No, Dr Prof Fomenko is not a straws-in-the-hair-mad scientist, and the New Chronology theory does not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, etc..etc, but points to their more probable positions on the time axis.

  • This is nonsense. I suppose all of the relics of the past; the Pantheon, the Parthenon, Hagia Sophia, etc.. these weren't built when they were, despite accounts of them throughout the centuries from their first construction on.

  • Haha, I like the background music...anyway, what happened to China's ancient civilization??!! So China just didn't exist?! And I suppose Jesus was a dinosaur, and all the talking dinosaurs lived happily ever after in the center of the earth! =D Boy, this stuff is fun. Perhaps I should get this book...

  • IMHO: google>books>Fomenko> check heresy>comment it

  • The work is not Fomenko's conclusions, but his facts. How do we know what we think we know ? We need to separate what is written from all other artifacts. btw : How would one contact the authors ? If I recall, one of them is in Edmonton.

  • Ok, taking your argument as plausible, do you have any idea how unlikely it is, that all of history is false? Do you have any idea of the sheer amount of literature from Greek and Roman eras would have had to been made up? Plus what about the languages, Greek, Latin, Egyptian are distinct, and have linguistic attributes that show a development over time. This is a marketing plot based on "what if"s and "could be"s

  • for the last 400 years generations of historians have been busy weaving the fine fabric of lies. The design and execution are fabulous, just as perfect lie should be. Naturally, marco confirms ghengis , Alexander confirms Ptolemy, everything rimes nicely, but fine fabric simply does not hold water, it is about as scientific as voodoo 'doctors', it`s well paid exercise of wishfull thinking with real events polished into oblivion.

  • ok like 90% of the things he writes in his book are completely trash, whenever he finds two names that start with the same letter he claims there the same person...

  • Thats all Fiction where are your references ,thats The zionist Bullshit

  • planet earth is abt 4.6 bln years. humanoids< 6 mln years, sapiens sapiens< 200 000 years, civilization of humankind (writing,centralized government,army, etc..) < 1000 years old. JC dates 12th cy, New Test. 12-13 cy, Old Test.14-17th cy, Apocalypse compiled 1486 or later. we know nothing exactly about events preceding 1000 years, consensual history erroneous as based on clerical chronology, results from abt 500 years of cooking by clerics and humanists.

  • GOOD EXAMPLE. skeptic page=crude manipulation: author compares dynastic flow of 500 yrs to dynastic flow of 300 yrs. that`s nonsense. for a change read the book first, then pontificate.

  • how sad this fomenko guy will make a fortune with this bullshit. for those who use common sense and rational in understanding the world, debunking such absurdities is unneccessary. for the rest of you, this link can be a start skepticreport [DOT] com/pseudohistory/fomenko.htm then again if you realy need to have it debunked for you then it's probably too late.

  • too bad. this version of history is by far more substantiated then the concensual one. no disclaimer. earth turns around the sun. go to google or to amazon>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge.

  • Chalk up another one for the nut cases. I cannot think of a single science - sociology, biology, archaelogy, paleontology, cosmology - that supports even a shred of this crap. There are hundreds of parts of the Bible carbon dated as early as 120 AD directly contradicting the 11th century "alleged" death of jesus - LOL.

  • Who cares?

  • nice

  • the very word conspiracy does not belong to the author`s vocabulary: : go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge.

  • ASININE. this just makes the rest of us look smarter without us even having to try. of course it is endorsed by a russian chessmaster and written by mathmatician(s), the least likely people to be inclined toward conspiracy theories.

  • the history of religions per Fomenko goes as follows: the pre-Christian period (before the XI century and JC), Bacchic Christianity (XI-XII century, before and after JC), JC Christianity (XII-XVI century) and its subsequent mutations into Orthodox Christianity, the Catholicism, Islam, Buddhism, and so on.

  • i was deep into the catholic religion, started my studies to be a priest y a carrebean island and was totaly turned off by a jessuit priest that was tring to recluit me out of the saint aguistine seminar, he told me that with my grades in school and my curiosity i should lern the truth a be of the jesuit order, there i would learn in time all the secrets and as a teaser he told me the bigest secret of it all... it is all one big lie.

    I have since become an artist!

  • It's not only a lie, it's pure psychological in nature, especially the way the bible was written and rewritten over time.

  • dumb christian propaganda

  • This is joke right? This Guy thinks the Bible was invented about 1400 AD. How can this be Christian Propaganda?

    Positive Dennis

  • stephen hawking solo

  • physics is ok, but: radiocarbon or c14 dating is too crude, it has known precision of +/-1500 years.

    example: ..the radiocarbon dating of the mummy #1770 from the

    Manchester Museum collection attributed the mummy's bones to 1000 b.c., whereas the cloth that

    the mummy has been wrapped in received the dating of 380 a.d.; google on `radiocarbon`, you`ll find lots if such stuff; all c14 method does is to rubberstamp dates suggested by the archaeologists..

  • Illogical? You mean like virgin birth?

  • check this heresy just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge.

  • jejeje...well, the datacion method possibly fails sometimes, but (reading Jerzy Topolsky), exist a way to get the date of a historic event or the origin of a documental source.

  • In many instances, items with known dates were given to several labs to be tested and the dates came back way off. So far off, in fact, to make radiodating a joke. It also does not take into consideration a different prehistoric atmosphere which would inhibit the sun's radiation from hitting the earth, thereby making radiocarbondating extremely tentative. It relies on too many assumptions to make it scientifically accurate.

  • That would only mean that the cloth put on the mummy was put on him in 380a.d duh!!! ever think of that moron! i shouldint insult people but this video is friking stupid!

  • No, this is not true either. It's not based upon assumptions at all, it's simply based upon a set of facts and properties of certain materials. It's not 100% accurate, but it's far more accurate than you propagate here.

  • i have to say that although i dont opose people having their own veiws, i do believe that we cannot rule out proven methods such as radio carbon dating or all because of a book published by possibly biased mathematitians. i concede to the fact that many scientists are biased towards religion. i wonder why many seem to try and prove the bible right and not other religious texts such as the Hindu Gita or the Muslim Karan.

  • radiocarbon or c14 dating is too crude, it has known precision of +/-1500 years. example: ..the

    radiocarbon dating of the mummy #1770 from the

    Manchester Museum collection attributed the

    mummy's bones to 1000 b.c., whereas the cloth that

    the mummy has been wrapped in received the dating

    of 380 a.d. google radiocarbon, you`ll find lots if such stuff. all c14 method does is to rubberstamp dates suggested by archeaologists.

  • living penguins dated 8000 years old.

    one part of a mammoth dated thousands of years off of antoehr part.

    REAL?LY DO read up on carbon dating and its assumptions! search KENT HOVIND on youtube

  • You're so wrong, archaeologists only check if dates fit the time frame other things indicate. If a C14 date is 100 years off or thousand years off, we know something went wrong, contamination of some sort may have taken place. C14 dating nowadays is accurate to about +/-50 years. But I guess you're a young earth creationist, right?

  • ever heard of carbon-dating? i suggest you read up on it. there you will find the hard facts you need to prove yourself wrong. then what ya gonna do? yep, i guessed it - you wouldnt dare look at the facts and think for yourself because you're afraid. you'll just continue lying to yourself, i'm very sorry to be the one to break it to you. this is poor propoganda and only aids the abolishment of religions.

  • Rofl! They er... assume that ppl trust bible rofl... Bible is like a funny novel made up by some cracked old man to fool the world newbies. Video is bs too, who the hell believe in bible as facts :p N00000b

  • dont laugh at other peoples faith its disrecepectful

  • It's not disrespectful when laughing at it would be 100% correct considered it's true value. In fact, it's disrespectful to many many historians, archaeologists, geologists and other scientist their work and findings to even believe in the bible to be historical.

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