Just when you thought it was safe to teach evolution

[brokenscimitar]

@disquisition73

I never heard of spontaneous generation until you used it. You're trying to drag a red herring across our path. As the others here have told you, evolution doesn't explain the origin of life, it explains how plants and animals change and adapt over time. Evolution has been adequately proven as much as creationism has been thoroughly debunked, ridiculed and abandoned, and is only pursued by a minority whose mind is bound tightly shut with ecclesiastical chains.

[semperwhisper]

@disquisition73 ...so? what's the link? Perhaps I am misinterpreting your use of the term spontenous generation (English is not my first language) but evolution, from what I know, study the evolution of life, how it transform and adapt to fit with it's surounding... evolution never tried to explain the origin of life.

[dalecs47]

@disquisition73 Of course the science of evolution has NOTHING to do with the issue of the “Origin of life”. Evolution is the science of how life changes over time. Evolution is science, religion is fraud. Some people like to claim that evolution is a region, the same way they claim atheism is a religion. Such arguments are nonsense. This gets back to why creationist want their religion taught in schools, to teach nonsense.

[dalecs47]

@disquisition73 What do you mean by “Spontaneous generation”? In any event, the thrust of my argument here is that religion is a fraud perpetrated by the wealthy in order to blind people to injustice, make them slaves to the wealthy who promote religion while at the same time having absolutely no belief in religion, other than as a tool, and have no morality, again, other than to use as a tool to enslave working call people. I believe creationism is a sham.

[dymchurch1]

Genie is very high on my heroes list.

[ndrthrdr1]

Thirty five bucks a year membership fee to support NCSE is a great way to actually do something to fight creationist propaganda in public schools.

Our kids are our future. Support NCSE!

[Gryffster]

Is that a laser pointer or a light sabre? I had no idea Genie was a Jedi. She's been keeping that well hidden.

[brokenscimitar]

Having to justify Evolution is like still having to justify that the world is not flat. Creationists, with all their blunt ecclesiastical dogma, are quite happy to use the rest of science such as air travel, cars, dental and medical treatment &c.

[Direkin]

Wow, a video from 1991. Amazed it's not in sepia... (okay, slight exaggeration maybe).

[semperwhisper]

@DrEvolutionQuest Actually it is in a way. I ''believe'' in evolution, I think it is true, but I could not explain it to you in full details and, furthemore, the arguments I have, I never had proof of my own eyes... I believe it is true because the scientific community told me so... in that way, it is a dogma.

[torputube]

Wow, my mind hurts from all the bullshit

[Devin82m]

Persuaded by the Evidence, Part I, Volume I (remove the spaces in the address)

h ttp://youtu.b e/e3OihbyVKB4

Interviews six scientists who abandoned the evolutionary dogma in favour of the young earth, Biblical creation model, because of their own research. Their backgrounds are wide and varied, their stories take many twists and turns.

[IconoGreene]

@Devin82m I'm going to watch the first 2 minutes of this, and come back and bitch about how flawed this video bases its argument.

[IconoGreene]

Has any of their own research been peer reviewed and validated, or are they bad scientists? Are these men educated in any field that would require them to actually understand evolution, such as a biologist, as opposed to computer scientists? Last, six scientists, wow. It's an argument from authority (six *scientists* don't believe in evolution, they're real *scientists*) and pretending to be an argument from popularity. *Six* of them, out of the millions and millions that do. Critical analysis.

[rwjt2]

that takes me back, doing presentations with OHP and transparencies.

I'm slightly dumbfounded that the progress that has been made is so slight, in terms of removing the creationist nonsense. I guess we would have to consider what progress they might have made with out the stand against them...

[fuzzeledwuzzeled]

I wish I had access to this when it was taped. I was shedding the YEC crap at the time and trying to make sense of it. Things like this would have helped so much if I had access to information like we have now.

[itsasin1969]

I wish I could hear it.. I'm not sure I will bother,, too bad,, I wanted to,.

[Akira625]

Eugenie Scott is quickly becoming a hero of mine.

[WeKeepEvolving]

typical only my right headphone works .

[SissingPyd]

I know it’s not politically correct these days but surely someone can do a genetic study of creationists, to see if there is some underlying defect. An offshoot of the autistic spectrum.

Are they a sub-species?

I take the piss by calling them Homo creationalensis but perhaps they really are some kind of throwback to an earlier time. Research is needed.

[canadianpearlist]

Eugenie Scott is coming to my town on Sept 22. I can't wait to listen to her in person

[JoesephKatana]

I made the mistake of opening something else that produced sound while straining to hear this at max volume. My poor ears.

[hypercub]

Amish beard

[clivegoodman16]

I am trying to find out why I can't hear this video. Please tell me whether you can hear it or not and also what type of system you are using. I am using a PC under Windows XP

[alexicoff]

@clivegoodman16

It's really really REALLY quiet, turn the sound up to the max

[clivegoodman16]

@alexicoff It is at maximum volume. I still hear nothing

[alexicoff]

@clivegoodman16

are you wearing headphones? I found that it doesnt work well on my headphones but I can hear it over my laptop speakers.

W7SP1

[Typhoonbladefist]

@clivegoodman16 I think it was recorded in stero, but it's only coming out the left channel.

[topher01]

couldn't hear a word he said.

[clivegoodman16]

@topher01 I can't either. I wonder why? I have windowsXP professional. I wonder what operating system you have?

[topher01]

@clivegoodman16 It's not the OS that's the problem. It was just recorded at too low a level.

[AlexanderRaccoon]

Genie Scott, still sexy after all those dealings with creationists!

[unamaxify]

"all we have to do is look for the CORRECT evidence to prove..."

as if there was incorrect evidence. (if it's incorrect it's not evidence)

One must admire creationists ability to tolerate cognitive dissonance in their mind.

[clivegoodman16]

I can't hear anything on thus video.

[memrjohnno]

1:14 in and Gish. Thank fuck I'm pissed!

[dalecs47]

Good presentate:I have a theory of my own, as to why evangelicals and the like religious conservatives are so stuck on creation vs. science: If they can get people to ignore science and facts as an article of faith it is much easier to convince them that environmental hazards are not real, human rights don’t matter, social justice is immoral and wars for profit are what God wants. The wealthy of the world own everything including religion. Thus religion is another tool to increase their wealth.

[420gma]

@dalecs47 I agree. Religon is based on power and money. Control peoples minds and you have the power to dictate every aspect of their life. And in doing so of coarse you can gather great wealth.Fear of punishment from god keeps them in line.

[RuddyIPA]

@dalecs47

Nailed it.

[shadesters]

Hey I am not old but I had overheads when I was younger... before projectors came into play... damn I feel old looking at that projector LOL

[ScientificExploits]

Did anyone else catch that giant laser pointer she had?

[zEropoint68]

Want to get an epic blank stare? Answer the 'why aren't apes still evolving into humans' question with a confused look and, "We *are*. What more do you want?"

[ThorstenKurpershoek]

Thanks for posting these videos their always interesting but could you please, please do something about the sound-level of the videos you put up. It is almost inaudible even with headphones.

[sonicase]

genie scott,..with brown hair :O

[cyphonyx]

As far as the vouchers are concerned, if the government requires a certain level of accuracy in the curriculum for the tax credit to be valid, it would work a lot better. That way, if their biology curriculum was full of creationism or if their history curriculum said the holocaust is a Jewish conspiracy, the government has the right to say "yeah, you can teach that, but we're not going to call it school."

[zEropoint68]

@cyphonyx nice one

[M00nGlitz]

Plus ca change c'est la meme chose.

[699backstab]

Scott is a warrior for truth and Humans. The faithful are treasonous.

[phillabong101]

thumbs up if thunderf00t brought you here! :)

[pythor2]

Has to be very hard for her to continue fighting for whats right. I was born in 1990, so no doubt she has been debating the truth longer than I've been breathing air. She is just amazing.

[MarcoSoloLA]

wow....look at the ancient overhead...wow

[McPrfctday]

@MarcoSoloLA meh, we still use them in schools here. Did someone say "mummy" at 1.00? :D

[ScientificExploits]

@MarcoSoloLA I remember sticking a pencil in the fan part so it would overheat during math lessons. :)

[McGoughable]

@MarcoSoloLA That's my youth you're dissing there sonny...

[EarlFaulk]

@MarcoSoloLA

We still use them thats the bad thing

[reishvedaur]

@MarcoSoloLA And that laser pointer looks like it could be a deadly weapon.

[PuppetXeno]

@reishvedaur as long as she don't cross the streams it'll be alright

[MrEducationFTW]

@MarcoSoloLA You made me feel sooooooo old! LOL!

[mikek44224]

Fantastic. Two decades of struggle on this issue just to hold our ground.

[luccaskunk]

This is all nonsense! Evolution can't be true because the world is only 72 hours old. This is a constant fact. 72 hours from now, the world will still be only 72 hours old... 100 years from now, the world will STILL be only 72 hours old. It's an immutable fact based entirely on me having sleep deprivation induced delusions!

[MomoTheBellyDancer]

@luccaskunk

"It's an immutable fact based entirely on me having sleep deprivation induced delusions!"

It still makes more sense than the Bible, really.

[lukeyboy118]

@luccaskunk makes more sense then the bible.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@luccaskunk It's a fact because Aaron and Abe built a box large enough to house the entire planet and kept looping it back through every three days.

[bicokun]

@luccaskunk That's just superstitious nonsense! There's indisputable PROOF that the universe was created four years ago on July 7th! There are records of an explosion of information throughout the universe on that date, you can't time travel to a day before that date (wonder why, hmmmm...), and there are those who felt very strongly that they were created on that date. Besides, I have a personal relationship with God. I got her ice cream yesterday. And she kicked me in the face. Praise God!

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun "you can't time travel to a day before that date (wonder why, hmmmm...)" that's because July 7th, 4 years ago actually happened 72 hours ago!

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun you also forget that the world ends TOMORROW! On July 5th, 1998. It's true, look it up on Google!

[bicokun]

@luccaskunk Now, now, we all know the world ended a year ago in April and will end again in about six months "for, yea, the LORD is easily bored and has perpetual ADHD" (Koi. 7-7). The prophets have indisputable proof of this!

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun Funny, I didn't see any Xists coming down from Planet X to slag Earth and turn it into a giant Stuckey's in space. The galaxy MUST have its pecan logs! The moon hasn't even become a giant Orange Julius yet, so obviously the end of the world prophesy hasn't started to happen yet. The world will end on July 5th, 1998. Mark my words.

[bicokun]

@luccaskunk Well, obviously that's because it all happens in a shadow dimension in which glowing, blue giants destroy everything thus causing people to spontaneously gain the ability to fly, causes cherry trees to blossom in autumn, and will cause the moon to become a giant Jamba Juice (Orange Julius, really? What troglodyte would believe that?). Consider your words marked. We'll see in twenty years when the LORD becomes nostalgic and creates 1998 again.

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun What do you mean again? 1998 hasn't happened yet. The calendar is wrong! Nobody really knows when 1998 will actually happen.

[bicokun]

@luccaskunk Oh, I agree that the calendar is wrong. It only shows 1998 happening once, when in fact it's happened about five times. Our LORD really isn't too interested in that time period, obviously. I mean, last August happened 15,498 times consecutively, and the winter of 2017 has happened about 14,856 times. Granted, I don't remember July 5, 1998 happening, specifically...

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun I encourage you to look it up. X-Day July 5th, 1998.

[bicokun]

@luccaskunk Well, given the fact that July 5th, 1998 is a product of your fevered, sleep deprived brain that will be a bit difficult, won't it? I looked through the scripture, and in fact there is no such date that exists. Occasionally our LORD forgets to create a date. Which means it never... happened...

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun You're confusing the 72 hour thing for XDay, July 5th 1998. It's real, it may happen tomorrow, you may die, and it's the end of the world as we know it, and we won't feel fine. Pecan logs are nasty.

[bicokun]

@luccaskunk Oh, no my friend, YOU'RE confusing XDay for your 72 hour thing. You see, your sleep deprivation has caused you to experience all of time in 72 hours in a hallucinatory state which is made manifest by your latent divine nature, itself a product of your subconscious delusion. XDay only exists in reality due to your own fevered mind. I know this because I, myself, am one of your hallucinations.

[luccaskunk]

@bicokun Well that's the last time I eat a naga jolokia pepper stuffed full of chocolate covered espresso beans before bed.

[Darwinsman]

@luccaskunk Well, that's as good as any explanation I've heard from any creationist.

[cyphonyx]

This is fantastic, but the audio was not nearly loud enough.

[NatCen4ScienceEd]

@cyphonyx Yep, we know, believe me. Some of these recently retrieved videos are way old. Sound is sometimes problematic, but artificially cranking up the volume can also crank up hiss and other noises. So, it's a tradeoff. My tests showed that pumping up the volume was going to make it worse....so I left it as is. Alas. --Robert Luhn, NCSE

[clothearednincompoop]

@NatCen4ScienceEd

It's not that bad but there's nothing on the right channel. All audio is on the left channel. Fixing that alone might help.

...at least all headphone users. :-)

[luccaskunk]

@NatCen4ScienceEd There are modern methods of audio processing that can eliminate hiss and 60hz hum. A free program called "Audacity" has its own version of these methods in its filters. It's not as good as other, more expensive programs, but it's free.

[caddy38]

she is a hero of science. thank you.

[TheBetterGame]

It's hard to imagine that she's been doing this for so long. Glad to hear there is such good audio.