stupid Americans all you need to do is make an inspiring speech and they are all totally enthusiastic about it... no wonder bush could give them all the shit and they believed it...
To Bush?? Wake up. Bush is just a terrorist puppet for israHELL and so is the crypto jew Moore.
What does it take to wake up?? Israel did 9/11 to get the party started in Iraq. All this bullship about the military makes me sick. They died fighting for the terrorist in this country who have one goal:steal trillions for israHELL.amd every jew in America with very few exceptions is in on the scam.
Michael Moore can be an annoying ass at times but so can I, and you. It doesn't take away from the fact that he is one of the few Americans that still speak for the people.
You need to just go ahead and kill yourself you waste! You are the pathetic scum that makes this country a laughable piece of shit to every other country on earth!!! I hope you get to watch you mother and children burn in a fire while you watch helplessly you waste! FUCK AND DIE! YOU FUCKING MORON!!!
I DO agree with Michael Moore. But most of that stuff you said below is fallacious and disingenuous. Remember that hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of Bush. Go to war ONLY as a last resort and only if your mainland is being attacked directly by a confirmed and credible threat to the populace. As a vet who signed up immediately after 9/11, I think we were lied to and dishonored by Bush. His lies are written in blood and ill-gotten gains all in the name of "democracy".
Haha, ITS ALL TRUE. Look at his interview with Hannity and the DNC. But then again, this page is full of blind sheep, so why waste my time trying to educate you?
And by the way, about 80% of the wars in the 20th century weren't done according to your method. Haha. Nice try.
We didn't belong in Viet Nam and WE DON'T BELONG IN IRAQ and Americans ARE getting killed by their ignorant alliegance to the only real terrorist-BUSH; WAKE UP STUPID...WWJD??? Dumbshits keep praying and spraying in the name of your lord
True.. we didn't belong in both. However since the surge the situation in Iraq has stabalised quiet some bit. It was not right to invade but the outcome does look like it could be a positive one.
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Cut and Run will lead to Al Queda taking control of Iraq and regroup. Plus all the Iraq's who fought against Al Qudea will be murdered just like what happened after we pulled out of Vietnam. Wake up people the Isamic terrorists want to defeat the West and even KILL YOU!
repsrule, funny how the idiot kool-aid drinkers vote your comment a 'thumbs down', yet leave no comment. i'm guessing it's because they have nothing intelligent not insightful to say that could refute your staements. it's soooooo easy, to just disagree. it takes a pair of tesicles to say why they disagree using logic and/or reason. also, funny how they take every advantage of 'free speech' (like M. Moore), yet how many in attendance had served? one. fucking one. laughable.
I dont understand why people think he is goign to bring home our troops. He has said on many times that he thinks more troops should be in tran. So sure we will leave iraq just for our troops to go to iran. Our troops will not come home and we need to realize this
Glad to see that. Voted GOP since I was 18. Now 26 and for the first time voted Democrat. All I can say is Obama bring our troops home! You promised it and I damn expect you to keep it.
Great Grandpa fought the war to end wars to damn long ago. The time is now to end this nonsense.
Bush didnt lie about this war. It was a decision based on the intelligence report that stated WMD!!! and it wasnt just our intelligence who came up with this conclusion, the United Nation based on their findings came up with the same report. Even experts do make mistakes. Dont go blaming the Republicans when both houses voted overwhelmingly for this war. GET OVER IT.
Like I said before it was an international intelligence report that failed on all of us. That does not make President Bush a liar. and what does your being there have to do with the decision to go to war. and pls. namecalling sooo childish
Wrong. Read a Newspaper. Read one of the Books that every EX-Official writes. Read SOMETHING. Bush Co USED 9-11 as a hammer to attack Iraq. They LIED. It's been and IS BEING Documented. The Media went along with it. Yes, even HILLARY voted to allow Bush to "USE THE THREAT OF MILITARY ACTION TO GIVE THE RESOLUTION 'TEETH'", Remember?
It was all a set up and a lie and we all know it. Bad intelligence my ass. They've got oil and Israel doesn't like them. N.Korea? Russia? China?
Pleae type in Dick Chaney name and visiting CIA office 8 times. Please research about Dick Chaney being Securtary of Defense during Daddy Bushes War for the Perisan Gulf. And please understand that people now have doubts that Dick Chaney a Neo Republicans wanted this Iraq War not matter what the American people. Inter Nored & DIck Chaney.
Bush(41)in 1991 went to war. Clinton(42) in 1998 went to war and so did Bush(43) Leaders make decisions not because the want to go to war but for the best interest of the nation.
Desert Storm made perfect sense, we defended Kuwait, and then came home. Operation Joint Guardian and Air Guardian (Kosovo) made sense. There was an actual genocide going on, and it Clinton didn't take us to war there, it was a NATO mission not a US mission. Iraq however makes no sense once the WMDs are out of the equation. I think that you would have a very different opinion if you were a veteran, unfortunately you just seem like a ditto-head. No one can defend the Iraq war. It's BS.
We had a chance to capture Sadam Hussein after Desert Storm, but it was the military leaders and the top minds at the time who decided against going all the way. American troops were involved in the Kosovo War and it was an easy war. The Iraq war was evaluated based on intelligence report provided by the intelligence community. The point is all these wars were done based on international intelligence report. please you do not represent all veterans. Your opinion is yours alone.
Saying that the Iraq war is BS is a pretty accurate representation of most veteran's sentiments on the subject. I get what your saying about J2 offices coming up the with reasons for us to prosecute a war, but why are we in Iraq? The WMD bit has passed? I get that you're a fucking super-American or whatever, so you can't question your leaders, but most of us do ask questions, and the big one on my mind is regarding the purpose of our occupation. What the fuck are we doing there?
I believe if we decide to go to war, I expect our military to clean up after themselves. What I mean by this as an example what recently occured in Georgia. The Russians just caused over a billion dollars of dammage in that countries infrustructure. I expect Americans to be a responsible nation an fix up the damage in that country. Besides that I thought we are there because the Iraqi government asked us.
also, bush didnt lie about wmds. you know how we knew they had em and shipped em too syria? when iran and iraq were fighting each other in the 70s, we supplied iraq with weapons. thats how we knew iraq had em, because we gave iraq weapons. look it up. also saddam was funding terrorists, so thats why we invaded, terrorists might have gotten em. you know, since iraq kadafi has shut up too.
sorry i was maybe a bit too quick to reply and i should have been more specific.. you were spot on about supplying saddam with weapons before the gulf war but the reason we invaded was not because saddam was training terrorists. there's always more than one reason why anything happens. i suggest watching the new zeitgeist movie as that will explain better than i ever could. it's the 2nd part you'll be interested in. also maybe check out john perkins - confessions of an economic hitman. peace out
I don't think we should blame any of the troops serving in Iraq, Afghanistan or any other country that has seen war in present time. I'm not saying that i think any of these wars are right, but these soldiers only do their duty, and i don't think that people who hasn't been to war, can come even close to understanding what they go through everyday they fight their enemy.. If you want to blame someone for the wars that we are involved in, blame the leaders of those warmongering countries.
I spent 23 years in the Army. 2 tours in Viet Nam, Special Operations in Panama and Desert Storm (Gulf War). I don't know your intentions, but people like you are responsible for the 2.1 million South Viets that were killed after we left. The same thing would happen if we left Iraq. I'm retired now and I talk to the young kids that have returned. You are hated by every one I have talked too. I have a daughter and 2nephews and several 2nd cuz's that have served. They think you are a sicko.
and you. what were you. I was special Forces, airborne ranger and Infrantry. Cowards like you, have no room to talk. I started out as a pvt and retired a Colonel. Your no different than the stupid politicians that put us into harms way and than change their minds. We should not be in the middle east period. But the democrates put us there in 1945. Stupid Stupid, Stupid. Just for the rich American Jews. I hate war and if you think having my little girl there is fun your an idiot.
Thank you. Unfortunately we have people like Twopecshaker who probably has never been away from his mothers side or is living in the past. They don't know how ugly war is. I wish he would go to some of these countries and open his big mouth and he can see first hand what millions of innocent people have experienced. Anyway if we didn't have stupid people like him we wouldn't appreciate what we have. I will pray for him. He likes Moore. mmmmmm, He needs a reality check.
You started out a a private a retired as colonel... well you must have killed all of vietnamese babies... the gulf of tonken was false flag... which makes you not only the invaders but the AGRESSOR in a war you lost lol.... no wonder you made up up the ranks so quick they needed some dumb fucks to follow orders to the tee and not ask any questions... I just wonder how many lives you destroyed.
You know Twopecshaker, I enjoyed killing the enimies of this country. And if we killed kids by accident so be it. We had no business there but the leaders of this country felt that the world was going to be taken over by the communist. Do you care about the 2.1 million Viets that were killed after we left. What about the people killed in 911. You know, you should go join one of the enimies of this country so we can kill you. I sleep very well knowing I've protected your right to be stupid.
The gulf of tonken incident was a lie scumbag. Get it through your thick head... you and many others where duped. Your leaders created the enemy to server there power plays, there paraniod control freaks who where afraid of the commies... i have no doubt you enjoyed killing those women and children you nazi piece of crap.
You think your a hero but your just foot soldier and cheap one at that. =)
hashoff69: How is it that you were in the Army for 23 years and yet are only 27 according to your profile? You must have been a bad assed motherfucker to be Airborne, a Ranger and Special Forces at age three. My compliments! And to think at age 27 you have a daughter that has served. Shit, you are amazing! Got any more war stories for us????????
I'm 58. I joined the army in 1968 and went to OCS when I was 18. After 2 tours in Viet Nam I went to College under to boot strap program.I was promoted to major in 5 years and stayed a major for a long time. Attended airborne school, ranger school and special forces. I was in special ops in Panama and commanded a Bn in desert storm.I went to the war college and was promoted to full Col. and went into procurement where I told my boss a rear admiral to go to hell and retired. My dauther is 27.
I find it amazing that someone who believes Moore would check on me. Moore's commentaries are so full of untruths and you believe him. He does what he does for personal gain and personal gain only. War is ugly. I wish he would go to a country like Iran, North Korea or Russia and critizie them and see what happens. If you want to know more about me, msg me and we can go cam to cam. I live in Delaware and Colorado.
Now hashoff69, just when did I state I believed Moore's commentaries? I did, however, question how you did all that at the age of 27 that WAS on your profile. If you did what you say you did, my hat's of to you. If you are one who promotes war without ever hearing a shot in anger........well.
Sarah Palin is a witch. She sacrificed her son, Trig, with a curse/spell for her success while in utero, probably before. Other witches who sacrificed their children are Barbara Bush, her 1st daughter died of leukemia, she turned white after her death. Ann Cappelletti had sex magick w L Ron Hubbard w sex magick to steal Joey from the future to sacrifice him for cash cow son John's success. We are talking witchcraft. If my mother has heard about sacrificing children for success, it's true.
moikl , great observation. If that guy is really in the military, why the hell did he sign up. We have an all volunteer military. 456876011, yes it does say a lot. People this is America, you don't have to join the Military, if you don't want too. And if you really support the troops please don't help the enemy.
Uhmmm... first I've never met an intelligent piece of crap so you didn't need to use the word dumb. I don't know if you were trying to get me watch that video again so that I would succomb to Moore's mind rot but I watched it again and didn't see anyone else standing. No matter... that video is incredibly disingenuine and based on your response to a real veteran you are too. You have no respect for America or the people who gave their lives to give you your freedom.
" You have no respect for America or the people who gave their lives to give you your freedom. "
Ah I see not only are you blind you actually think YOU have respect for the people that vae you freedom... if it wasn;t for people like Micheal morre you would still be english you moron. YOur fore fathers would piss on you if they where around today....
OH and who gives shit about that load mouth... killing a bunch of vienamese children was the high light of his life...
He started with a good ingredient, was altered beyond recognition, nearly impossible to digest and once in your system, he feels like he'll never pass.
Obama- is like High-Fructose Corn Syrup..
Seems super sweet, but is cheap, not nutritious and will eventually get you killed.
Nader- is like Organic Wheat as he has sustenance that nourishes us all, doesn't rely on corporate manipulation, and is a corner stone for our entire healthy diet.
Moore caused a lot of very healthy dissent that the US was in dire need of. I give him big respect for that. But the fact that he backs Obama shows me that he really doesn't understand the severity of the current situation, or perhaps he's afriad to step too far from the mainstream. Obama and Mccain are both empty suits. Bought and paid for by the interests that don't give a shit about the American people.
Nader is truly an amazing guy however not enough Americans are ready to listen to him. I "think" if Obama does change things for the better then Americans will listen. I am personally really torn because I think Nader should be president. Both Republicans and Democrats have screwed up my country.
Every*Flower, starts from a seed, germinating underground, feeding off the decay, warmth, wisdom and L.O.V.E. of the past, yet before this process can began, each seed must be dislodged from the comfort and beauty of its parents cradle, then and only then does the individual rise*above its surroundings, to blossom a fresh, new day upon the awaiting horizon of a future carefully nurtured by all the hope and grace which carried itself forward, within our struggle for truth.
Hey check it out, another Obama supporter. You people need to wake up. Obama is part of the same ruling elite, dumb ass. Also Obama is in the Bush/Cheney bloodline. That's a fact. Every four years you guys get so excited about CHANGE. There is no difference between the parties. Wake up. Stop being a mind controlled slave. Obama is going to continue the war, morons. Probably with Russia. You people are so lazy and believe whatever your slave masters tell you. Pathetic.
When you say 'pathetic,' you're referring to only yourself. Let me guess, McCain is going to change the country? The biggest lie I've ever heard. Let me guess, Ron Paul will change the country? Just a big-talking weakling with a frighteningly-controlled fanbase. Yes, when you say 'pathetic,' the only person it points to is yourself.
What kind of 'change we can believe in' do you think Obama is going to bring to the table. The guy talks about a universal health care system when the gov't already has $99trillion on its doorstep for the retiring boomer generation. A mixup in the tax scheme wont help that. He's also warlike, supports bombing soveirgn nations such as Pakistan without their consent. The empire has a storm on its doorstep so large that neither major candidate is willing to even address it. Obama offers false hope.
This is where the brain numb people go wrong.... just because johnknight999 criticized Obama and the left doesn't put him on auto for McCain and the right. It's clear that his point is that we have a 2 party dictatorship who both work as hard as they can to deny 3rd parties from having a voice. Both parties are guilty of supporting the Military Industrial Complex and wasteful spending. They play one side against the other and we choose one of 2 ,while both are morally bankrupt.
Have you taken a look at the third parties recently? Nimrods, each an every candidate. Nader? Needs to give up. Barr? Pro-life. Some Libertarian. Baldwin? Self-explanitory. McKinney? Just no. The rest? Never heard of them. All they're there for, any more, is to steal a vote here and there. With the horrifying crop of third party candidates popping up this year, I'm happy that the bipartisan system exists.
Both Nader and Barr want to go back to a non interventionist foreign policy. They're both critical of the federal reserve. They both want out of Iraq. Despite all the other wedge issues that I may or may not disagree with I still think they're pointless in comparison. Obama and McCain will further errode our rights and allow the corporations run the country.. while our dollar is totally destroyed. So yeah.. nader or barr are a much better choice.
But let's face it - as good as either might sound to a person, they don't stand a chance thanks to bipartisanism and there isn't really anything we can do about it. So, in terms of mainstream candidates, which would you prefer - a Bushist Republican or a Clintonist Democrat? Which one appeals more to you?
Exactly my point, Dezzy. In this election, for the cynics at least, it's all about choosing the lesser of two evils, and that is Barack Obama. It's not a lesser of two evils choice for me, because I know which one is the right choice clearly and presently.
thats because you cannot become president in the us without supporting the military. the second you speak about getting the troops back home you are no patriot anymore.
russia and america wont go to war. if they did, life would be extinct within days. no mccain or obama could save anybody from a nuclear desaster other than not starting it. and i know who would rather want a war like this and who wouldnt...respect the choice of others without calling them morons.
jesus bit OTT bordering on jingoism there
StargateMunky 11 months ago
stupid Americans all you need to do is make an inspiring speech and they are all totally enthusiastic about it... no wonder bush could give them all the shit and they believed it...
BenWahBalls44 1 year ago
I think that was a del mar.
WHATUG 1 year ago
To Bush?? Wake up. Bush is just a terrorist puppet for israHELL and so is the crypto jew Moore.
What does it take to wake up?? Israel did 9/11 to get the party started in Iraq. All this bullship about the military makes me sick. They died fighting for the terrorist in this country who have one goal:steal trillions for israHELL.amd every jew in America with very few exceptions is in on the scam.
Bush, Clinton, Obama......puppets.
ThetalmudHater 1 year ago
Michael Moore can be an annoying ass at times but so can I, and you. It doesn't take away from the fact that he is one of the few Americans that still speak for the people.
88Aldor 1 year ago
Basically this is how it is. If you agree with Michael Moore about Bush lying about WMD's in iraq, you believe:
Bush forced our CIA to give false information. (oh but that's not all)
Bush forced Britain's intelligence to give out false information on WMD's.
and
Bush forced Russia's intelligence to give out false information in regards to the WMD's.
In other words, if you agree with Moore, you just might be a retard ;)
silentnightwhisper 2 years ago
You need to just go ahead and kill yourself you waste! You are the pathetic scum that makes this country a laughable piece of shit to every other country on earth!!! I hope you get to watch you mother and children burn in a fire while you watch helplessly you waste! FUCK AND DIE! YOU FUCKING MORON!!!
drummerjdb 2 years ago
In no way is your information credible or true. Go read your bible and shut up
theslowevo 2 years ago 2
ur a retard lol
420greenmarine 2 years ago
I DO agree with Michael Moore. But most of that stuff you said below is fallacious and disingenuous. Remember that hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of Bush. Go to war ONLY as a last resort and only if your mainland is being attacked directly by a confirmed and credible threat to the populace. As a vet who signed up immediately after 9/11, I think we were lied to and dishonored by Bush. His lies are written in blood and ill-gotten gains all in the name of "democracy".
SRAANG01 1 year ago
Haha, ITS ALL TRUE. Look at his interview with Hannity and the DNC. But then again, this page is full of blind sheep, so why waste my time trying to educate you?
And by the way, about 80% of the wars in the 20th century weren't done according to your method. Haha. Nice try.
silentnightwhisper 1 year ago
gotta love mike
vikingking72787 2 years ago 3
bush is not the only one the lies. do you think everything obama or any other politician says. is true???
rowin09 2 years ago
All the donkeys are Jumping..!
MeSpawN 2 years ago
LoL this man like ka dOnKEY ..!
MeSpawN 2 years ago
Wow, what a touching moment
yurity 2 years ago 3
funny how this 1:25 minutes brought tears to my eyes
Pinpas21 3 years ago 2
We didn't belong in Viet Nam and WE DON'T BELONG IN IRAQ and Americans ARE getting killed by their ignorant alliegance to the only real terrorist-BUSH; WAKE UP STUPID...WWJD??? Dumbshits keep praying and spraying in the name of your lord
elysezavala415 3 years ago 8
True.. we didn't belong in both. However since the surge the situation in Iraq has stabalised quiet some bit. It was not right to invade but the outcome does look like it could be a positive one.
FriendOregon 3 years ago
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disgracious23 1 year ago
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Cut and Run will lead to Al Queda taking control of Iraq and regroup. Plus all the Iraq's who fought against Al Qudea will be murdered just like what happened after we pulled out of Vietnam. Wake up people the Isamic terrorists want to defeat the West and even KILL YOU!
republicansrule 3 years ago
I've searched around for videos of these EVIL middle-easterners you speak of. Here's what I've found...
-Men that are/were in business with George Bush, funding his oil company ARBUSTO ENERGY/OIL.
-Middle-Eastern men racing cars, drifting, having fun.
Maybe these EVIL men you speak of are right next to those darned "W.M.D's".....
BTW; even IF they're ouf for us, imagine what YOU would do if some country invaded the USA and was terrorising the citizens.
ichbingott4510 3 years ago
Bevore the invasion, ther was no Al Quaeda in Irak!
Like Dave Mustain sais: killing for religion, something I don´t understand!
Holy war!
waddehaddedudeda2000 2 years ago
repsrule, funny how the idiot kool-aid drinkers vote your comment a 'thumbs down', yet leave no comment. i'm guessing it's because they have nothing intelligent not insightful to say that could refute your staements. it's soooooo easy, to just disagree. it takes a pair of tesicles to say why they disagree using logic and/or reason. also, funny how they take every advantage of 'free speech' (like M. Moore), yet how many in attendance had served? one. fucking one. laughable.
vcovreson 2 years ago
have you served?
CodyAllenmusic 2 years ago
I dont understand why people think he is goign to bring home our troops. He has said on many times that he thinks more troops should be in tran. So sure we will leave iraq just for our troops to go to iran. Our troops will not come home and we need to realize this
lowrider1818 3 years ago
Glad to see that. Voted GOP since I was 18. Now 26 and for the first time voted Democrat. All I can say is Obama bring our troops home! You promised it and I damn expect you to keep it.
Great Grandpa fought the war to end wars to damn long ago. The time is now to end this nonsense.
sastath 3 years ago
that was awesome!
jtapjtap 3 years ago
very nice to see a brave man applauded
krissy4nik 3 years ago
Your the fucking idiot! Your MCain supporters are venom spewting morons!
padude64 3 years ago 4
Sarah palin is such a dumbass! I dont want her running for president as McCain has skin cancer!
padude64 3 years ago 3
Read my answer Bush lovers! Barack Obama said to go into Afghanistan where Osama is but Bush did not!
A third grader asked Palin what the Vice presidents job was! palin said to control the senate! man is this broad stupid or what??????
padude64 3 years ago
Macho pussies like Bush and like McCain! Bush and Mccain lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
padude64 3 years ago
"Leaders [...] go to war for the best interest of the nation."
Man, someone is seriously fuckin' high.
chillende 3 years ago
And God bless our education system, Reza. Learn to spell my friend. The word is veterans, not vetarans.
(Also vetard is in common usage. It describes a veteran that votes Republican)
wildcimmerian 3 years ago
Bush didnt lie about this war. It was a decision based on the intelligence report that stated WMD!!! and it wasnt just our intelligence who came up with this conclusion, the United Nation based on their findings came up with the same report. Even experts do make mistakes. Dont go blaming the Republicans when both houses voted overwhelmingly for this war. GET OVER IT.
polynesianblogger 3 years ago
A: you're an asshole, I was there. Don't tell me to get over it.
B: Once it was confirmed that there were no WMDs, why didn't we come back home?
wildcimmerian 3 years ago 2
Like I said before it was an international intelligence report that failed on all of us. That does not make President Bush a liar. and what does your being there have to do with the decision to go to war. and pls. namecalling sooo childish
polynesianblogger 3 years ago
Wrong. Read a Newspaper. Read one of the Books that every EX-Official writes. Read SOMETHING. Bush Co USED 9-11 as a hammer to attack Iraq. They LIED. It's been and IS BEING Documented. The Media went along with it. Yes, even HILLARY voted to allow Bush to "USE THE THREAT OF MILITARY ACTION TO GIVE THE RESOLUTION 'TEETH'", Remember?
It was all a set up and a lie and we all know it. Bad intelligence my ass. They've got oil and Israel doesn't like them. N.Korea? Russia? China?
bouncedrealitycheck 3 years ago
Your opinion does not make it a fact.
polynesianblogger 3 years ago
Pleae type in Dick Chaney name and visiting CIA office 8 times. Please research about Dick Chaney being Securtary of Defense during Daddy Bushes War for the Perisan Gulf. And please understand that people now have doubts that Dick Chaney a Neo Republicans wanted this Iraq War not matter what the American people. Inter Nored & DIck Chaney.
hmmyeah 3 years ago
Bush(41)in 1991 went to war. Clinton(42) in 1998 went to war and so did Bush(43) Leaders make decisions not because the want to go to war but for the best interest of the nation.
polynesianblogger 3 years ago
Desert Storm made perfect sense, we defended Kuwait, and then came home. Operation Joint Guardian and Air Guardian (Kosovo) made sense. There was an actual genocide going on, and it Clinton didn't take us to war there, it was a NATO mission not a US mission. Iraq however makes no sense once the WMDs are out of the equation. I think that you would have a very different opinion if you were a veteran, unfortunately you just seem like a ditto-head. No one can defend the Iraq war. It's BS.
wildcimmerian 3 years ago
We had a chance to capture Sadam Hussein after Desert Storm, but it was the military leaders and the top minds at the time who decided against going all the way. American troops were involved in the Kosovo War and it was an easy war. The Iraq war was evaluated based on intelligence report provided by the intelligence community. The point is all these wars were done based on international intelligence report. please you do not represent all veterans. Your opinion is yours alone.
polynesianblogger 3 years ago
Saying that the Iraq war is BS is a pretty accurate representation of most veteran's sentiments on the subject. I get what your saying about J2 offices coming up the with reasons for us to prosecute a war, but why are we in Iraq? The WMD bit has passed? I get that you're a fucking super-American or whatever, so you can't question your leaders, but most of us do ask questions, and the big one on my mind is regarding the purpose of our occupation. What the fuck are we doing there?
wildcimmerian 3 years ago
I believe if we decide to go to war, I expect our military to clean up after themselves. What I mean by this as an example what recently occured in Georgia. The Russians just caused over a billion dollars of dammage in that countries infrustructure. I expect Americans to be a responsible nation an fix up the damage in that country. Besides that I thought we are there because the Iraqi government asked us.
polynesianblogger 3 years ago
Hahahaahahah
Defucijus 3 years ago
also, bush didnt lie about wmds. you know how we knew they had em and shipped em too syria? when iran and iraq were fighting each other in the 70s, we supplied iraq with weapons. thats how we knew iraq had em, because we gave iraq weapons. look it up. also saddam was funding terrorists, so thats why we invaded, terrorists might have gotten em. you know, since iraq kadafi has shut up too.
jsgoodfella 3 years ago
i think you need to do a little more research..
ANDR0iD083 3 years ago
ok i would be happy to see u disprove me.
jsgoodfella 3 years ago
sorry i was maybe a bit too quick to reply and i should have been more specific.. you were spot on about supplying saddam with weapons before the gulf war but the reason we invaded was not because saddam was training terrorists. there's always more than one reason why anything happens. i suggest watching the new zeitgeist movie as that will explain better than i ever could. it's the 2nd part you'll be interested in. also maybe check out john perkins - confessions of an economic hitman. peace out
ANDR0iD083 3 years ago
You're an idiot. You sound like a pathetic teenager.
skagsrules 3 years ago
Go Obama!!!!
8985752 3 years ago 3
I love Michael Moore and I just watched Slacker Uprising a few days ago.
Oh, and Hashoff there are MANY veterans who support Michael Moore. Like my dad.
poppler1234 3 years ago 2
this is how you treat your fucking veterans, america!
shamoni8 3 years ago
Not really THis guy is a fat ass idiot but i thank the veterans i give them popcorn salute them and say "thank you for you service"
andoconda585 3 years ago
Powerful clip.. Quite emotional to see that soldier finally feel appreciated with a standing ovation.
offyam 3 years ago
WHAT SONG IS THIS?
GO OBAMA
1234latitude 3 years ago 2
Obama 08 faggots?
Larry Craig?
Malaka57 3 years ago
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Obama 08 faggots!
migeru 3 years ago
Oh my god... only in America!!!!
towol06 3 years ago
I don't think we should blame any of the troops serving in Iraq, Afghanistan or any other country that has seen war in present time. I'm not saying that i think any of these wars are right, but these soldiers only do their duty, and i don't think that people who hasn't been to war, can come even close to understanding what they go through everyday they fight their enemy.. If you want to blame someone for the wars that we are involved in, blame the leaders of those warmongering countries.
jensoes 3 years ago 2
I spent 23 years in the Army. 2 tours in Viet Nam, Special Operations in Panama and Desert Storm (Gulf War). I don't know your intentions, but people like you are responsible for the 2.1 million South Viets that were killed after we left. The same thing would happen if we left Iraq. I'm retired now and I talk to the young kids that have returned. You are hated by every one I have talked too. I have a daughter and 2nephews and several 2nd cuz's that have served. They think you are a sicko.
hashoff69 3 years ago
The gulf of tonken incident was a lie.... it came out in some declassified files not so long ago look it up.
Jesse Venturas a vietnam war vet and he can see this wars wrong... I guess he was special forces though not some pig shit stupid grunt.
Twopecshaker 3 years ago
and you. what were you. I was special Forces, airborne ranger and Infrantry. Cowards like you, have no room to talk. I started out as a pvt and retired a Colonel. Your no different than the stupid politicians that put us into harms way and than change their minds. We should not be in the middle east period. But the democrates put us there in 1945. Stupid Stupid, Stupid. Just for the rich American Jews. I hate war and if you think having my little girl there is fun your an idiot.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Thanks for your service! I mean that genuinely.
456876011 3 years ago 3
Thank you. Unfortunately we have people like Twopecshaker who probably has never been away from his mothers side or is living in the past. They don't know how ugly war is. I wish he would go to some of these countries and open his big mouth and he can see first hand what millions of innocent people have experienced. Anyway if we didn't have stupid people like him we wouldn't appreciate what we have. I will pray for him. He likes Moore. mmmmmm, He needs a reality check.
hashoff69 3 years ago
You started out a a private a retired as colonel... well you must have killed all of vietnamese babies... the gulf of tonken was false flag... which makes you not only the invaders but the AGRESSOR in a war you lost lol.... no wonder you made up up the ranks so quick they needed some dumb fucks to follow orders to the tee and not ask any questions... I just wonder how many lives you destroyed.
Your a goon, nothing less.
Twopecshaker 3 years ago
You know Twopecshaker, I enjoyed killing the enimies of this country. And if we killed kids by accident so be it. We had no business there but the leaders of this country felt that the world was going to be taken over by the communist. Do you care about the 2.1 million Viets that were killed after we left. What about the people killed in 911. You know, you should go join one of the enimies of this country so we can kill you. I sleep very well knowing I've protected your right to be stupid.
hashoff69 3 years ago
The gulf of tonken incident was a lie scumbag. Get it through your thick head... you and many others where duped. Your leaders created the enemy to server there power plays, there paraniod control freaks who where afraid of the commies... i have no doubt you enjoyed killing those women and children you nazi piece of crap.
You think your a hero but your just foot soldier and cheap one at that. =)
Twopecshaker 3 years ago
hashoff69: How is it that you were in the Army for 23 years and yet are only 27 according to your profile? You must have been a bad assed motherfucker to be Airborne, a Ranger and Special Forces at age three. My compliments! And to think at age 27 you have a daughter that has served. Shit, you are amazing! Got any more war stories for us????????
Callenge1 3 years ago
I'm 58. I joined the army in 1968 and went to OCS when I was 18. After 2 tours in Viet Nam I went to College under to boot strap program.I was promoted to major in 5 years and stayed a major for a long time. Attended airborne school, ranger school and special forces. I was in special ops in Panama and commanded a Bn in desert storm.I went to the war college and was promoted to full Col. and went into procurement where I told my boss a rear admiral to go to hell and retired. My dauther is 27.
hashoff69 3 years ago
I find it amazing that someone who believes Moore would check on me. Moore's commentaries are so full of untruths and you believe him. He does what he does for personal gain and personal gain only. War is ugly. I wish he would go to a country like Iran, North Korea or Russia and critizie them and see what happens. If you want to know more about me, msg me and we can go cam to cam. I live in Delaware and Colorado.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Now hashoff69, just when did I state I believed Moore's commentaries? I did, however, question how you did all that at the age of 27 that WAS on your profile. If you did what you say you did, my hat's of to you. If you are one who promotes war without ever hearing a shot in anger........well.
Callenge1 3 years ago
Jesse was a Navy Seal. Seals are very proud and I don't think he would like be called Special Forces, Of Seals are special forces also but not army.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Sarah Palin is a witch. She sacrificed her son, Trig, with a curse/spell for her success while in utero, probably before. Other witches who sacrificed their children are Barbara Bush, her 1st daughter died of leukemia, she turned white after her death. Ann Cappelletti had sex magick w L Ron Hubbard w sex magick to steal Joey from the future to sacrifice him for cash cow son John's success. We are talking witchcraft. If my mother has heard about sacrificing children for success, it's true.
074August 3 years ago 3
Right on... and this event was being held near Camp Pendelton.
456876011 3 years ago
Did I miss something? In a crowd of thousands of people are you telling me that only one guy stood up? I mean only one veteran stood.. very telling.
456876011 3 years ago
and he was right next to the camera...... Also, in blowing a kiss to MM, he pretty much abandoned Don't-ask-Don't-Tell... ;)
moikl 3 years ago
moikl , great observation. If that guy is really in the military, why the hell did he sign up. We have an all volunteer military. 456876011, yes it does say a lot. People this is America, you don't have to join the Military, if you don't want too. And if you really support the troops please don't help the enemy.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Look at the video again dumb shit.... you can see people in the background standing up as well... its just he was the closest to the camera...
Twopecshaker 3 years ago
Uhmmm... first I've never met an intelligent piece of crap so you didn't need to use the word dumb. I don't know if you were trying to get me watch that video again so that I would succomb to Moore's mind rot but I watched it again and didn't see anyone else standing. No matter... that video is incredibly disingenuine and based on your response to a real veteran you are too. You have no respect for America or the people who gave their lives to give you your freedom.
456876011 3 years ago
" You have no respect for America or the people who gave their lives to give you your freedom. "
Ah I see not only are you blind you actually think YOU have respect for the people that vae you freedom... if it wasn;t for people like Micheal morre you would still be english you moron. YOur fore fathers would piss on you if they where around today....
OH and who gives shit about that load mouth... killing a bunch of vienamese children was the high light of his life...
Twopecshaker 3 years ago
Wait... I stand corrected. I now have met an intelligent piece of crap... well, at least a piece of crap that knows how to type.
456876011 3 years ago
I liked it better when Moore supported Nader, he wasn't such a money hungry cunt then.
Amebixfan 3 years ago
still going to be voting on the same rigged machines (new name but same lie).
The illusions that people hold on to will be their downfall.
lighthammar 3 years ago
McSame- is like Hydrogenated Oil..
He started with a good ingredient, was altered beyond recognition, nearly impossible to digest and once in your system, he feels like he'll never pass.
Obama- is like High-Fructose Corn Syrup..
Seems super sweet, but is cheap, not nutritious and will eventually get you killed.
Nader- is like Organic Wheat as he has sustenance that nourishes us all, doesn't rely on corporate manipulation, and is a corner stone for our entire healthy diet.
Demand Nader Debate!
Dutchoven08 3 years ago
Moore caused a lot of very healthy dissent that the US was in dire need of. I give him big respect for that. But the fact that he backs Obama shows me that he really doesn't understand the severity of the current situation, or perhaps he's afriad to step too far from the mainstream. Obama and Mccain are both empty suits. Bought and paid for by the interests that don't give a shit about the American people.
delerium2k 3 years ago 2
Agreed
mattklim88 3 years ago
Nader is truly an amazing guy however not enough Americans are ready to listen to him. I "think" if Obama does change things for the better then Americans will listen. I am personally really torn because I think Nader should be president. Both Republicans and Democrats have screwed up my country.
ELisSheba 3 years ago
support the troops... bring them home
Peacenik 3 years ago 9
@Peacenik if only the troops could think for themselves they would be able to quit their jobs and.... bring themselves home?
MrJ864759001 1 year ago
haha ONE guy wtf
ewupawly 3 years ago
wanna see this sooo bad
minizer999 3 years ago 4
These young men and women's lives should not be thrown away for companies like Halliburton and with no just cause.
I support our troops.
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PeaceProfit 3 years ago
Michael Moore is a real role model.
He is always fighting for what's right.
I can't put into words how much I admire this guy!
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ObamaForMiddleClass 3 years ago 8
Hey check it out, another Obama supporter. You people need to wake up. Obama is part of the same ruling elite, dumb ass. Also Obama is in the Bush/Cheney bloodline. That's a fact. Every four years you guys get so excited about CHANGE. There is no difference between the parties. Wake up. Stop being a mind controlled slave. Obama is going to continue the war, morons. Probably with Russia. You people are so lazy and believe whatever your slave masters tell you. Pathetic.
johnknight999 3 years ago 2
When you say 'pathetic,' you're referring to only yourself. Let me guess, McCain is going to change the country? The biggest lie I've ever heard. Let me guess, Ron Paul will change the country? Just a big-talking weakling with a frighteningly-controlled fanbase. Yes, when you say 'pathetic,' the only person it points to is yourself.
SventheCrusader 3 years ago
What kind of 'change we can believe in' do you think Obama is going to bring to the table. The guy talks about a universal health care system when the gov't already has $99trillion on its doorstep for the retiring boomer generation. A mixup in the tax scheme wont help that. He's also warlike, supports bombing soveirgn nations such as Pakistan without their consent. The empire has a storm on its doorstep so large that neither major candidate is willing to even address it. Obama offers false hope.
delerium2k 3 years ago
This is where the brain numb people go wrong.... just because johnknight999 criticized Obama and the left doesn't put him on auto for McCain and the right. It's clear that his point is that we have a 2 party dictatorship who both work as hard as they can to deny 3rd parties from having a voice. Both parties are guilty of supporting the Military Industrial Complex and wasteful spending. They play one side against the other and we choose one of 2 ,while both are morally bankrupt.
lestliness 3 years ago 3
Have you taken a look at the third parties recently? Nimrods, each an every candidate. Nader? Needs to give up. Barr? Pro-life. Some Libertarian. Baldwin? Self-explanitory. McKinney? Just no. The rest? Never heard of them. All they're there for, any more, is to steal a vote here and there. With the horrifying crop of third party candidates popping up this year, I'm happy that the bipartisan system exists.
SventheCrusader 3 years ago 2
Both Nader and Barr want to go back to a non interventionist foreign policy. They're both critical of the federal reserve. They both want out of Iraq. Despite all the other wedge issues that I may or may not disagree with I still think they're pointless in comparison. Obama and McCain will further errode our rights and allow the corporations run the country.. while our dollar is totally destroyed. So yeah.. nader or barr are a much better choice.
lestliness 3 years ago 3
But let's face it - as good as either might sound to a person, they don't stand a chance thanks to bipartisanism and there isn't really anything we can do about it. So, in terms of mainstream candidates, which would you prefer - a Bushist Republican or a Clintonist Democrat? Which one appeals more to you?
SventheCrusader 3 years ago
We prospered with Clinton, we failed with Bush. Hmmm, wish would you choose?
DezzyRaY 3 years ago
Exactly my point, Dezzy. In this election, for the cynics at least, it's all about choosing the lesser of two evils, and that is Barack Obama. It's not a lesser of two evils choice for me, because I know which one is the right choice clearly and presently.
SventheCrusader 3 years ago
thats because you cannot become president in the us without supporting the military. the second you speak about getting the troops back home you are no patriot anymore.
russia and america wont go to war. if they did, life would be extinct within days. no mccain or obama could save anybody from a nuclear desaster other than not starting it. and i know who would rather want a war like this and who wouldnt...respect the choice of others without calling them morons.
x20LUx 3 years ago