If you can't tell that this about 9/11, then you are an idiot. He is a truther. Then again, aren't we all? I think we all want truth wherever we can get it. Sad thing is, many accept falsehoods as truth because it is too earth shattering to their paradigm to realize that things are sometimes more than what they seem. That's okay though. I believe what I believe, and that makes me no more or no less of a nut than someone who believes that our government would never do anything evil.
It's definitely about 9/11, but I doubt it's in support of the 9/11 truthers. "Is that what we meant when we said we never would forget," is most likely a reference to the wars that have followed. The story we all got afterwards was that Iraq was preparing a massive attack on us. That was shown to be a lie. I think that's a much more plausible interpretation. then again, we should probably ask Dustin if he's a truther...
@etchkid He thinks we were lied to. Said there are too many holes and cover-ups to look the other way, but thinks people should avoid "the wackier theories". "I think that David Ray Griffin's book "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" is a good place to start to learn about the many problems with the official story." -"If I'm wrong, thank God, but I will act on my beliefs until I have evidence of their falsehood. I will gladly look the fool, to know I am not a coward. "
Who cares if he has what people think this song has references to the Bible, it may, it may not, either way im a complete athiest and think the bibles a crock of shit, but it has some positive messages on morality/life in it so feel free to reference it... but it also has some negatives... mainly in regards to developmentally disabled and homosexuals.
Love this song....i believe this song is about how it is believed that the government set up 9/11 themselves and was an inside job. Watch the movie "loose change" if your're skeptical
The fact that Kensrue uses a reference to Acts 9:18 in this song does not make it religious. Like a lot of his songs, he adds scripture and theology to make his points The whole point is that for the first time we were able to see clearly what was really going on....like Paul. Instead of arguing about whether it is a secular or christian song..how bout praising the fact that we have a singer songwriter that can assimilate the two beautifully.
this song since the first time i heard it,I've interpreted it as a tribute to 9/11,i dont see how this is bible related at all knowing that thrice is not a religious band
A loved everything about thrice for years, but during/after Vheissue i didnt listen for years... cant explain why! but rediscovered them about 6 months ago... been rationing their albums since then, finally bought 3 & 4 today. AMAZING. cant wait for beggars and new lp this summer.
@AudioCentrix I know what you mean, but it would be pointless to perform the song live, EXACTLY the way it's played on the album. If you want the album version, the CD will always be there :)
This song IS about 9/11. Yes there are biblical references but the meaning behind the song is that they lied to us about 9/11 and the majority of Americans accepted their story as truth instead of looking into it for themselves.
@SVENxEDGE It's not that they lied, but exploited our fear in the face of 9/11. They used 9/11 as a way of justifying their invasion of foreign countries and declaring preemptive war.
Personally sometimes i think its a slap in the face of the American economics and also revenge for the gulf war because the Americans made so much money out of it, its like the saying blood for oil. That's my opinion
@bernie16wb I never said it was an inside job i said the official story isn't true, and it is not, and that is exactly what Dustin said in an interveiw i watched, an inside job is just one possibility
Beautiful song. If people were more interested in bands and songs like this instead of "Paparazzi" or the like, humans could continue down our path of evolution, instead of getting stuck in the mud of what we call "Modern Society" where people can't seem to avert their minds from Sports or Video Games for more than a week. If their lucky
I love Thrice and I love this song, but at the same time it concerned me that this is a song about a 9/11 cover up essentially. I give credit to Dustin and co. regarding the emotion and talent of this song but I do have to disagree with it at the same time. I still love the rest of their work and it in no way hinders how I feel about the band in general.
@rowellas Not about a 9/11 cover up. About how we let the government use our fear and worry to sell us bullshit wars and legislation that stripped away our rights (Patriot Act). That's why we're "Fools and cowards all".
@bernie16wb Dustin said in an interview that this song was specifically about how the full truth about 9/11 has not been told to us. What you said is also relevant though, some people believe 9/11 took place in order to pass the patriot act it's a very interesting topic I recommend researching it by watching "In plane sight" and reading "The 9/11 Commission: Omissions and Distortions" by David Ray Griffin. It becomes very clear the whole story has not been told at the least...
9/11 was not an inside job. That's crazy talk. However, the fear and anger felt after 9/11 was used to sell us bad legislation and wars we probably didn't really want.
@bernie16wb you really havent done any research, youre telling me you take bush's word for this??? look into the history of ALL of our wars, there was ALWAYS a predetermined event to sway the opinion of the public into supporting a war..dont believe what the govt tells you learn for yourself. it really is not crazy talk when you think about how much money a very select group of people are making from this war.
It seems to me along with the biblical undertones, the songs seems to be about the 9/11 cover up. Does Dustin believe that 9/11 was an inside job? It's an interesting thought about the song i think.
Dustin is a very good song writer Im not a christian but i still listen to Thrice because they play good music.
@72fenderbender a friend once told me this was about 9/11. and how about it could have all been a lie. "scales fall from our eyes" like crocodile tears. but i wouldn't doubt there are bible references. i still love them :)
@72fenderbender scales falling from the eyes is just an expression. Dustin doesn't relate EVERYTHING in his song to the bible. This song is clearly about 9/11 and is more political/social than religious. Use your brains, people.
@snowskateskate People are using their brains (you are too, but you need to use it a little more :P). 72fenderbender only mentioned that that ONE line was a REFERENCE, not that the entire song was all about one passage in the bible.
Not all of Thrice is as religious as Dustin, but they let him write the lyrics that he does because he can always write things that can be interpreted in at LEAST two different ways; religiously or by some other means.
all of the first responders who are now getting sick and dying from breathing in the super fine concrete dust have "broken lungs" now and they are getting denied health care benefits...
I never realized that until you pointed it out...adds a whole new weight to the song. Thanks, and yeah Thrice is mega deep...definitley one of the best bands of our time
Such an incredible band, especially live. I was expecting them to be pretty good, but they absolutely floored me with how spot on they were.
RomeSkateFoSho 2 months ago
@RomeSkateFoSho one of the best live bands out there!!
darkstarunderground 2 weeks ago
Great song from one of my favorite albums :D You know a band is good when they sound this good straight into mics.
Bowjangles8 2 months ago
If you can't tell that this about 9/11, then you are an idiot. He is a truther. Then again, aren't we all? I think we all want truth wherever we can get it. Sad thing is, many accept falsehoods as truth because it is too earth shattering to their paradigm to realize that things are sometimes more than what they seem. That's okay though. I believe what I believe, and that makes me no more or no less of a nut than someone who believes that our government would never do anything evil.
tonywolfe16 3 months ago
the lyrics to this song resonate so much with all the corrupt, selfish shit going on in my country at the moment (Greece).
No one does it quite like Thrice - and we love them for it.
diydanae420 3 months ago
First time hearing this song... its amazing ! City and Colour brought me here.
hiasdamoon 3 months ago
beginning sounds like jesus christ by brand new
kaneandbailey 4 months ago
i love even though dustins band mates dont share his belifs he still continues show his faith in his music
dnblowers 4 months ago
RIP 9/11 victims, cant believe its been 10 years from today <3
Woke up to a brand new skyline
We licked our wounds and mourned the dead
Swallowed the story, hook and sinker
Is that what we meant, when we said That we never would forget
tyjacky 4 months ago 2
1 person must have hit dislike by accident.... b/c there is no way you can NOT like this.
meccassault 4 months ago
Dustin on 911 conspiracies: reddit.com/r/thrice/comments/k8ugu/dustin_discusses_911_conspiracies_2008/
SketchaMPM 4 months ago
It's definitely about 9/11, but I doubt it's in support of the 9/11 truthers. "Is that what we meant when we said we never would forget," is most likely a reference to the wars that have followed. The story we all got afterwards was that Iraq was preparing a massive attack on us. That was shown to be a lie. I think that's a much more plausible interpretation. then again, we should probably ask Dustin if he's a truther...
etchkid 4 months ago
@etchkid He thinks we were lied to. Said there are too many holes and cover-ups to look the other way, but thinks people should avoid "the wackier theories". "I think that David Ray Griffin's book "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" is a good place to start to learn about the many problems with the official story." -"If I'm wrong, thank God, but I will act on my beliefs until I have evidence of their falsehood. I will gladly look the fool, to know I am not a coward. "
SketchaMPM 4 months ago
Ugh. Y u so perfect Thrice?
AlaynnaForPresident 5 months ago
I love the drum and the xylophone part! Also love the little guitar delay at 1:09.
hkybuff08 5 months ago
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hkybuff08 5 months ago
Who cares if he has what people think this song has references to the Bible, it may, it may not, either way im a complete athiest and think the bibles a crock of shit, but it has some positive messages on morality/life in it so feel free to reference it... but it also has some negatives... mainly in regards to developmentally disabled and homosexuals.
arefx 6 months ago
Love this song....i believe this song is about how it is believed that the government set up 9/11 themselves and was an inside job. Watch the movie "loose change" if your're skeptical
drumpunk41 7 months ago
@drumpunk41 That's an odd interpretation...
etchkid 5 months ago 3
@etchkid thats what is about..... what other interpretations are there?
Chelsey141 4 months ago
The fact that Kensrue uses a reference to Acts 9:18 in this song does not make it religious. Like a lot of his songs, he adds scripture and theology to make his points The whole point is that for the first time we were able to see clearly what was really going on....like Paul. Instead of arguing about whether it is a secular or christian song..how bout praising the fact that we have a singer songwriter that can assimilate the two beautifully.
travmiller13 7 months ago 14
this song since the first time i heard it,I've interpreted it as a tribute to 9/11,i dont see how this is bible related at all knowing that thrice is not a religious band
mikeyben7 7 months ago
Good Sing *-*! I love Thrice
TheLuxoPipe 8 months ago
A loved everything about thrice for years, but during/after Vheissue i didnt listen for years... cant explain why! but rediscovered them about 6 months ago... been rationing their albums since then, finally bought 3 & 4 today. AMAZING. cant wait for beggars and new lp this summer.
tommoelbommo 8 months ago
thrice FOREVER! <3
NowORneveratall 9 months ago
thrice forever!!!!!!!!! <3
NowORneveratall 9 months ago
1 jizzed and pressed the wrong thumb, when he/she heard this =)
MrHvalsratt 9 months ago
Now my favourite Thrice song. A lot of truth behind the lyrics too.
Azreal677 9 months ago
Yea!! rock that xylophone
cgarcia171 10 months ago
THESE GUYS ARE BADASS
nomnomnom777 10 months ago
Teppie is the fuckin man.
machina313 10 months ago
There needs to be the Oooooooooooo's in the chorus please! someone notice?
AudioCentrix 10 months ago
@AudioCentrix I know what you mean, but it would be pointless to perform the song live, EXACTLY the way it's played on the album. If you want the album version, the CD will always be there :)
jkshoujk 10 months ago
I love how Teppei has his own little studio within the studio...such a genius!
sentryclothes 11 months ago 8
This song IS about 9/11. Yes there are biblical references but the meaning behind the song is that they lied to us about 9/11 and the majority of Americans accepted their story as truth instead of looking into it for themselves.
SVENxEDGE 11 months ago 3
@SVENxEDGE +1!
LetterKilled 11 months ago
@SVENxEDGE It's not that they lied, but exploited our fear in the face of 9/11. They used 9/11 as a way of justifying their invasion of foreign countries and declaring preemptive war.
xIStormer 10 months ago
THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING,.... I've never heard of thrice nor listened to them .... but i'm just so impressed right now. Wow.
ipodvidoe 1 year ago
@ipodvidoe try to keep it clean bro. God Bless (:
DaronSpence 11 months ago
Personally sometimes i think its a slap in the face of the American economics and also revenge for the gulf war because the Americans made so much money out of it, its like the saying blood for oil. That's my opinion
dancindannyjones 1 year ago
Rock that xylophone
Frankaaaaaa 1 year ago
@Frankaaaaaa - No xylophone here. :) That's a glockenspiel. Also pretty commonly called "bells."
letsargueyaaaay 11 months ago
@letsargueyaaaay
Rock that glockenspiel!
(that sounds dirty, 'cause in dutch, they call balls 'klokkenspel' )
Frankaaaaaa 11 months ago
@bernie16wb I never said it was an inside job i said the official story isn't true, and it is not, and that is exactly what Dustin said in an interveiw i watched, an inside job is just one possibility
duduhead5000 1 year ago
9/11 = inside job.
"Are we fools and cowards
To let them cover up their lies
As we all watched the buildings fall
And watched the scaled fall from our eyes"
jal860 1 year ago
OMG Thrice is so freaking amazing! They're even more amazing live! And you don't see that very often! :D
illueia 1 year ago
Might be time to touch up the paint on your geetarz
GettinTheLedOut7 1 year ago
Beautiful song. If people were more interested in bands and songs like this instead of "Paparazzi" or the like, humans could continue down our path of evolution, instead of getting stuck in the mud of what we call "Modern Society" where people can't seem to avert their minds from Sports or Video Games for more than a week. If their lucky
ThanksIKnowImlucky 1 year ago
eddie's face at the outro is reminiscent of the proverbial kid in a candy shop. fucking beautiful
Charredmonolith 1 year ago
@Charredmonolith thats riley..
shleich 1 year ago
i know Teppei is using a Bassman.. but whats the other amp? Looks like a Vox but its hard to tell without the name on the front.
both sound so sick on this cd.
modnarm 1 year ago
@modnarm Pretty sure it's a Vox AC30.
ACEfanatic02 1 year ago
I love Thrice and I love this song, but at the same time it concerned me that this is a song about a 9/11 cover up essentially. I give credit to Dustin and co. regarding the emotion and talent of this song but I do have to disagree with it at the same time. I still love the rest of their work and it in no way hinders how I feel about the band in general.
rowellas 1 year ago
@rowellas Not about a 9/11 cover up. About how we let the government use our fear and worry to sell us bullshit wars and legislation that stripped away our rights (Patriot Act). That's why we're "Fools and cowards all".
Or at least that's how I see it.
bernie16wb 1 year ago
@bernie16wb Dustin said in an interview that this song was specifically about how the full truth about 9/11 has not been told to us. What you said is also relevant though, some people believe 9/11 took place in order to pass the patriot act it's a very interesting topic I recommend researching it by watching "In plane sight" and reading "The 9/11 Commission: Omissions and Distortions" by David Ray Griffin. It becomes very clear the whole story has not been told at the least...
duduhead5000 1 year ago
@duduhead5000
9/11 was not an inside job. That's crazy talk. However, the fear and anger felt after 9/11 was used to sell us bad legislation and wars we probably didn't really want.
bernie16wb 1 year ago
@bernie16wb you really havent done any research, youre telling me you take bush's word for this??? look into the history of ALL of our wars, there was ALWAYS a predetermined event to sway the opinion of the public into supporting a war..dont believe what the govt tells you learn for yourself. it really is not crazy talk when you think about how much money a very select group of people are making from this war.
DannyOFtod 1 year ago
The beginning of this song reminds me of Let Down by Radiohead.
DiobloHunter 1 year ago
Best. Band. Ever!!!!
jjmh 1 year ago 4
its just me or the intro sounds like "let down" of radiohad?
sukum17 1 year ago
unemployed samurai.
PanasonicYouth21 1 year ago
3:33 that guy looks like hes having fun
carboxx 1 year ago
It seems to me along with the biblical undertones, the songs seems to be about the 9/11 cover up. Does Dustin believe that 9/11 was an inside job? It's an interesting thought about the song i think.
Dustin is a very good song writer Im not a christian but i still listen to Thrice because they play good music.
chuck41389 1 year ago 4
@chuck41389 sounds very possible
obtom1331 1 year ago
Such a great song. The Alchemy Index was amazing. Glad to see there are truthers out there who can rock.
"We want justice,
Scream from the Roof,
We want Justice
We want the Truth!!"
semprini20 1 year ago
whoever mixed this performance is pretty amazing
Tanikaze2 2 years ago 2
best band in the world
samx919 2 years ago 2
ZACK GALIFIANAKIS!!
Visioncliff 2 years ago
this song must be dedicated to all the 9/11 victims... rest in peace.
kringring 2 years ago
as much as i love this song, i dont think it should be dedicated to the victims : X
turb00 2 years ago
very intelligent..
kringring 2 years ago
3:12 lol. someones enjoying himself... and so would I if i helped write and played drums to a song like that :-)
dudeguy2k 2 years ago 2
Awesome song, great band.
crazytrain43 2 years ago 3
"and watched the scales fall from our eyes" is a reference to Acts 9:18 in which Saul (soon to be paul) has his sight healed by the Lord.
"And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized."
Acts 9:18
72fenderbender 2 years ago 30
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so what?
MrYoutopia 2 years ago
he was just telling you, no need to be rude.
elliottsmith10 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the reference. Was wondering about that.
Luvanicebum 1 year ago
@72fenderbender a friend once told me this was about 9/11. and how about it could have all been a lie. "scales fall from our eyes" like crocodile tears. but i wouldn't doubt there are bible references. i still love them :)
LetterKilled 1 year ago
@72fenderbender i thought it was about 9/11
cades1100 11 months ago
@cades1100 - It probably is, but the biblical reference is still most likely intentional.
letsargueyaaaay 11 months ago
@72fenderbender scales falling from the eyes is just an expression. Dustin doesn't relate EVERYTHING in his song to the bible. This song is clearly about 9/11 and is more political/social than religious. Use your brains, people.
snowskateskate 9 months ago 2
@snowskateskate People are using their brains (you are too, but you need to use it a little more :P). 72fenderbender only mentioned that that ONE line was a REFERENCE, not that the entire song was all about one passage in the bible.
Not all of Thrice is as religious as Dustin, but they let him write the lyrics that he does because he can always write things that can be interpreted in at LEAST two different ways; religiously or by some other means.
jkshoujk 9 months ago
@72fenderbender :) Never ceases to amaze me about Paul's story of transformation.
jeffmcaraturnbull 9 months ago
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9/11 was awesome
DoINsHitsk8er 2 years ago
i love to listen the volume III when i go to sleep. it's really awesome and relaxing
eddycore84 2 years ago
thrice is incredible, theres nothing left to say after that. absolutely incredible songwriters
ViolentSaucer 2 years ago 5
esta canción es perfecta! <3
synkien 2 years ago 2
THRICE FOR LIFE
Amidjojo 2 years ago 61
rip 9-11 friends and family
airblaster33 2 years ago
perfect song for today! rip 9-11 victims. 8 years and will never will forget....
PlanetCamelCrap 2 years ago 2
rileys very talented
they all are
omahh1 2 years ago
awesome.
Goliath1909 2 years ago
in my mind even with there new stuff thrice still has that hardcore punk in them
Jherrera318 2 years ago
how?
triviumlambofgod 2 years ago
holy shit this was an incredible performance
bobbo8 2 years ago
wow. what a moving amazing song. thrice never cease to amaze me.
sean1256 2 years ago
3:33 lol!
aubreywithoutYou 2 years ago
why is that funny?
thuglove359 2 years ago
Just the face that he makes. I found it amusing.
aubreywithoutYou 2 years ago
all of the first responders who are now getting sick and dying from breathing in the super fine concrete dust have "broken lungs" now and they are getting denied health care benefits...
theflanman420420 2 years ago
fucking brilliant
nestorguti2176 2 years ago
song is about 9/11.
"fire burns beneath Manhattan"
"we said we would never forget" and we never forgot 9/11
i like it when teppei plays the instrument that looks like a xylophone .its a powerful song. i love it :]
"we all watched the buildings fall"
KevManley92 2 years ago
teppei's the shit
omahh1 2 years ago 2
lol @ teppei playing bells
pnkparrot 3 years ago
riley's smooooooth
Patrickkkkkkkkkkk 3 years ago
it bums me out that they used 911 but the end of this song is sweet especially the end
muhlbilizer 3 years ago
We will never forget...
jihaddante 3 years ago
Breathing with broken lungs is a metaphor...
mrpauld 3 years ago
there are people today still with lung problems caused from the ashes and dust that filled the air.
could be a metaphor?
qatr9swu 2 years ago
this songs about 9/11 huh?i think it issss.all the first responders lungs basically were broken with that toxic dust.man,thrice is always so deep.
talbass 3 years ago
I never realized that until you pointed it out...adds a whole new weight to the song. Thanks, and yeah Thrice is mega deep...definitley one of the best bands of our time
jeffimusprime 3 years ago
yah, like when he says "Cuz we all watched the buildings fall", its about the World Trade Center Towers. Such an amazing song by an amazing band
RdF666 3 years ago
yah its about 9/11 being a conspiracy by the government, when it says "Are we fools and cowards all, to let them cover up their lies"
He is talking about the conspiricy theory that the government plotted it all, or didnt react strongly enough when they found out about it
RdF666 3 years ago
they didn't react strongly enough. they knew about al qaeda having terrorists learning how to fly planes, but they needed a new "evil."
asoftapproach 2 years ago
i love how teppei's playing the bells
TheMcJesus 3 years ago
lol yeah it rocks how he just stops playing guitar and starts tapping away.
fhodngodfn 3 years ago
amaaazing
matthewmundell 3 years ago
perfect
bloise54 3 years ago
how'd you get this so fast!? its great!
noone34 3 years ago