Iran's artists still restricted after revolution - 06 Feb 09

[ihatekhomeini]

The muslim want to erase the Iranian culture, and they have managed that. Actually, American and European culture will now penetrate Iranian culture more easily because everything Iranian is now destroyed, because most of Iran's culture was non-islamic. 

[naqolay]

FUCK XOMEYNİ AND XOMNEYİ

[masterofmetacognitio]

Artists in favor of censorship are not real artists.

[sspersian]

guys dont disrespect raligions.religion is a personal belive.

[masterofmetacognitio]

When religion is made into a political system that oppresses others, one necessitates blasphemy in all forms.

[arozise]

NIce IRAN

if u want to understand IRAN

u have to lean about ISLAM SHITE

[neoKonscioius]

What is it that Irans leaders are trying to hide??

According to 'Reporters Without Borders' Iran continues to be the largest prison for the press in the Middle East, and in the organization's annual estimation on freedom of the press in the world in 2007 Iran ranks as number 166 out of 169 total countries. "[In Israel] journalists enjoy a freedom not found elsewhere in the region."

- Reporters Without Borders, 2007_

Source: "Israel - Annual Report 2007," Reporters Without Borders Web site

[eljono1]

I wish I could understand all that arruzat has typed below me :p It doesn't look very nice.of course it was pretty jacked up to call his mom a bitch too :p

Also to MAnhattenwombat,... Please tell me how the US is trying to make IRan their puppet? Do you even watch world news or just one sided political rhetoric? "DOWN WITH AMERICA!" dumb asses. come to the states and go around screaming that. We'll see how long you last.

[deedee1067]

Freedom of Expression !

[arruzat]

revolution of poor ,revolution of monkyes

minds .paradise of lie ,iranian is persia

not arabic .iran is dow and will go more dow because peloples minds is poor

[mafiahamid]

u missed something, Ur mom is a poor bitch

[arruzat]

do you speak to me?

i dont know i saw your mother shende working in street ,for give money to you ,you go to work the best ,your shende mothers is tired,you facking shende come from is you ,hijo de una perra .

mal parido .your mother ,working shende and later make namoz ! jajaja

[neoKonscioius]

Khatami the reformer(?)

Under Sharia law in Iran, virgin girls are not allowed to be executed, for their purity might open up the doors of heaven to them. To avoid this, virgin girls, such as Atefeh, who are sentenced to death, are raped before execution to ensure their proper place in hell. Mr. Khatami was more than tolerant of this type of horror, violence, and inhumane treatment to which young Atefeh and countless others were subjected

[arruzat]

go to work ,kesafat ,mother shende .

you speak bda to me ,monkey and i will speak more bad .hijo de puta ,hijo de una perra puta ,irani de mierda ,haber si desde iran podes entrar a youtube?

puto! seguro eres un refugiado .and you?

you run aways from iran ? irani de mierda? because youtube in iran is closed .

[mafiahamid]

Dont say these words to ur mom, she would be depressed

[jurangdalam]

juanAwesome

[lllnnn333]

if the iranians could get rid of islam then there can join the 21 cecentury ... persians women are hot wouldnt mind getting my hand on 1 or 2 of them !!!

[jankren]

Iranian girls are yummie!

[Wasserkaktus]

Damn right they are.

[manhattanwombat]

dirty lies. iranian artists are as free as they come.

[RationalFuture]

"dirty lies. iranian artists are as free as they come." yeah... exactly... in an Islamic state... get a reality check.

[manhattanwombat]

iran is not like you think it is. iran is a great nation one of the greatest. you in the west always think bad of iran.

[RationalFuture]

What I meant is that Islamic laws cannot by their nature guarantee freedom of expression. This is a universal statement and is as true of any other Islamic state as for Iran.

[manhattanwombat]

iran has freedom of expression of course in iran people dont try being as blasphemous or offensive as possible like they try in the west but there is opposition parties and stuff and free democracy and the right to an opinion

[clockworkorange1986]

You obviously don't know about anything that is happening in Iran. Google the name Tahmineh Milani. She is a filmmaker who faced the death penalty in Iran for a film she made. Only after international pressure were the charges dropped years later. Open your eyes and stop being so naive.

[manhattanwombat]

maybe you should visit an islamic country so you can see for yourself not everyone are terrorists like you saw on fox news

[clockworkorange1986]

Boy do you like to assume. I have visted Islamic countries. I have visited Syria and Egypt but not Iran. I love Iran's history and the people of Iran. My friends who traveled there tell me the Iranian peoples are great, I would know since I have many Persian friends and they are fantastic. But I am completely against the government there as are most Iranians. This has nothing to do with the Iranian people.

[manhattanwombat]

americans always bitch about the iranian government. had you not invaded and installed a puppet dictator back in the 50s we would have had no need for revolution. you better respect iran. iran are the greatest nation of the islamic world. they supported bosnia and palestine when no one else would, regardless of shia/sunni. its called solidarity. if you want to be 'compeltely against' a government, be against your own, as it still supports apartheid in genocide in palestine and elsewhere

[RationalFuture]

The greatest nation of the Islamic world is Turkey, and the only reason for that is because it is secular :)... this alone says enough of Islamic law :)

[manhattanwombat]

this can be disputed, rationalfuture

[Mxyzptlk562]

I think it is the UAE.

[clockworkorange1986]

Don't flatter yourself.

[manhattanwombat]

thank you for surrendering.

[clockworkorange1986]

Very mature of you. Your argument is weak. Goodbye.

[manhattanwombat]

thank you mate. it was certainly more mature than your "Don't flatter yourself" after I went through all the trouble to give you a 500 character history lesson.

[clockworkorange1986]

500 character history lesson? "Iran is the greatest nation in the world, they support palestine, show some respect." Some history lesson this. I bet you're not even Iranian yourself, you're probably a son of Iranian parents and you desperately cling to that heritage. The sadness reeks.

[manhattanwombat]

I meant your country's invasions, hypocrisy, and warmongering.

and ur just an american who doesnt know his heritage and lives in a country with 200 years of history (a history of war and genocide)

[clockworkorange1986]

Again you love to assume. I am a son of immigrants from Latin America, you don't know anything about me. Where are you from?

[manhattanwombat]

I live in europe but Id like to go back to my homeland as soon as I have the opportunity to. I suggest you do the same. you know your country is poor because of a history of american economic domination and bullying. I think the world should take an example from countries like iran and venezuela. non violent protest against american imperialism does work.

tell me. why do you defend your country of residence so vigourously? are they now wiretapping the internet too?

[negkreyol21]

it doesnt work for all cause my country was made into a failed state for removing an american backed government and for not electing a pro american party afterwards but i hope best luck too you your struggle as not ended yet

[manhattanwombat]

canada turned into a failed state? u watch too much daily show.

[negkreyol21]

lol...i meant haiti im refugee from there

[manhattanwombat]

aww Im sure itll be alright one day again man. you know iran is becoming better by the day despite americas attempts to make it their puppet again. the people of haiti have done well in rejecting american slavery and oppression. haiti will be victorious, God is on your side man.

[RationalFuture]

"iran has freedom of expression"

freedom of expression means freedom to blaspheme and freedom to offend.

this is a lost argument, dude, it's like defending the position that the USSR had freedom of expression...

[EmperorAtahualpa]

Good honest reporting by Al Jazeera!

[DigbyCat]

It is a great shame that the once great country of IRAN, is being governed by paranoid zealots who won't even trust their own people...

[deforrestation]

Fackin fascism. Iran just doesn't want to risk ideas that promote intelligence and *gasp* ideas that may go against Islam. Aww, is your religion under attack? Free the mind and the body will follow.

[vistavision2]

deforrestation,

"Peeeling the onion" of politcal doctrine is nether prudent nor just: Example- Bush43 "administration of Iraq" post "Mission accomplished" modeled after IDF self-same "Likud Mission Accomplished" if 1980's invasion of Lebanon.

Or present "Operation cast lead" like millstones around their necks:

1 Polarize otherwise non-interested parties to judge and call evil for what it is of evil;

2 Human conscience compelles one to act in defense of good and right.

[vistavision2]

3 Zionism is Evil

4 Defense of Palestinians is Right, Good and Just to identify to our children that difference between right or wrong;

5 That genocide of Likud Crimes Against Humanity shall NEVER approbated by humanity: It is an inhumane political doctrine and false religion;

6 Regardless, we are "sub-human" to persons who practise self-idolatry worship of Baal.

7 Nose knows the scent: Zionists adorn selves with pearl of Judaism, cast down Christianity, & trample Islam.

[dawoudii]

O you who believe! Whoever from among you turns back from his religion (Islām), Allāh will bring a people whom He will love and they will love Him; humble towards the believers, stern towards the disbelievers, fighting in the Way of Allāh, and never afraid of the blame of the blamers. That is the Grace of Allāh which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allāh is All­Sufficient for His creatures' needs, All­Knower. (Al-Ma'idah 5:54 qatari92 and all u munafiqin u will be judge by al adile(swt)

[vistavision2]

dawoudii,

Everyone says this or that;

I say unto you and everyone:

Do seek you seek my brother Mehdi?

Know you not his name?

Him who carrys the Crescent, Star of Solomon, & Cross; yet, is not a burden but an a familial honor of three?

Peace, Love & Respect

ET

[dawoudii]

And whosoever takes Allāh, His Messenger, and those who have believed, as Protectors, then the party of Allāh(hezbullah) will be the victorious. (Al-Ma'idah 5:56)

[dawoudii]

Verily, your Walī (Protector or Helper) is Allāh, His Messenger, and the believers, - those who perform the prescribed prayer, and give Zakāt, and they bow down (submit themselves with obedience to Allāh in prayer). (Al-Ma'idah 5:55

[dawoudii]

And so judge (you O Muhammad SAW) between them by what Allāh has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad SAW) far away from some of that which Allāh has sent down to you. And if they turn away, then know that Allāh's Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fāsiqûn (rebellious and disobedient to Allāh). (Al-Ma'idah 5:49

[dawoudii]

Let the people of the Injeel (Gospel) judge by what Allāh has revealed therein. And whosoever does not judge by what Allāh has revealed such are the Fāsiqûn (the rebellious i.e. disobedient (of a lesser degree) to Allāh. (Al-Ma'idah 5:47-qatari92 u are a typical arab!money?LOL! vilayat e faqih is a different manmade concept but shariat is from habibullah(saws),check out my video favorites....ya arahman!ya alhalim guide our ummah to your light surely weve wronged ourselves.amin

[blackxavior]

Your Allah picked a womanizing  pedifile war monger as his messenger i seriously doubt his decision making abilities.

[dawoudii]

Verily, We did send down the Torah to Mûsa therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allāh's Will, judged the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests for to them was entrusted the protection of Allāh's Book, and they were witnesses thereto. Therefore fear not men but fear Me and sell not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever doesnt judge by what Allāh has revealed, such are the Kāfirûn AlMa'idah 5:44 qatari readquran u munafiq!money?

[dawoudii]

egypt americas puppydog is a dictatorship where media is controlled more than any other country in africa probably.egyptian media is ridiculiouis,yet because egypt is americas lilbitch no coverage on them or saudiyyah!same restrictions as iran (except in egypt media no headscarf is allowed and in saudiyyah no women aloud,lol),stop demonizing islamic governmentand uneeded symphathy to ''poor'''iranians '' ,hypocrites ! propoganda for american owned arab shuyukh cocksucker aljazeera!

[mouradovt]

it is not my fault people want this fascist logic ideology, it is the first religion who rapidly expands in USA n Europe so.

those you've called unintelligent they are western scientists, singers, footballers converted to Islam...a treasure will surprise you Zionists any time you you don't expect it.

[cassandralibra]

Believe me, people do NOT want this fascist ideology. If you have a few godless people who by chance discover Islam, they are by no means representative of what people want here. And this is what they want:

No further mosques, no further accomodation of the ever-whining, ever-claiming muslim community, and certainly no dhimmi status in case of a muslim majority, and NO Sharia law...

[cassandralibra]

High hygiene standard - let us take THAT example.

Long before Mohammed, the Romans had running water in their capital...

And Hindus have a much higher standard of cleanliness, as their religion prescribes a full bath, instead of just washing feet, hand, nose, etc.

But I admit: Islam has seen better days!

[juanpablodw]

jojojoj

[tosh602]

i am glad i live in the u.s.a and not iran the arts are prescious and to control it is shameful

[mouradovt]

the Iranians are so happy they live in Iran, they have chosen their own lifestyle1979, they are so compatible with it..

[tosh602]

but why would anyone what to live in a society where art is censesored and controlled? that confuses me

[mouradovt]

none wants to live in country where art controlled.

the Iranian people have elected their regime -called fanatical-, although they could choose reformists in last election.

[Eopyk]

Elected are you out of your mind? The only ones alowed to practicipate in the elections are the pro-islamimnism and pro-mullah parties the reformist you talk about are still Islamists. Other parties and canditates are not alowed to take part in the election. So they live in a horrondous dictatorship.

[yu255673]

...What the bloodclat is "pro-Islamimnism"...

[Eopyk]

I meant pro-Islamism.

[qatari92]

im a muslim and i think that iran should seperate religon and government. if they do that then they would get more tourists and more money. its sad i hope they reform and it becomes more free

[ass711]

"im a muslim and i think that iran should seperate religon and government."

those 2 points in your statements are contradictory. a muslim is supposed to believe in sharia law as it is dctated by god and delivered by the prophet muhammad. if you believe that people should seperate religon and government then you have left islam right there just as the turkish government did - even the prophet had an islamic state governed by sharia and he never did "seperate religon and government".

[yu255673]

...Art is supposed to be a form of dissent...Well it was before, now it is a conformist culture...As people lose their critical thought and rationality, it just perpetuates popular culture...

[tosh602]

are you saying art is bad? just trying to figure out what your saying

[really12345]

Most artists that are working in the "west" or in the imperialist countries are working for the corporate sector.

"He who pays the piper calls the tune"

Although the situation is different with state funding.

"True intellectual creation is incompatible with lies, hypocrisy and the spirit of conformity. Art can become a strong ally of revolution ONLY insofar as it remains faithful to itself"

Leon Trotsky"

[monkigun]

When the great Persian people are free to seek and serve God in the way God calls them then the world will again be amazed at Persia and its many blessings. Until then the mullahs will steal their souls. FREEDOM TO SERVE GOD LEADS TO HAPPINESS,!!!!

[RationalFuture]

"FREEDOM TO SERVE GOD LEADS TO HAPPINESS,!!!!"

this is 3 words too long.

it should read

FREEDOM LEADS TO HAPPINESS

[justjeshb]

But under freedom certain people are more free than others, usually not just because of their abilities, but because of the colour of their skin, their ancestors, their ideology, etc. So it sounds good on paper but in the end only benefits certain people.

[RationalFuture]

The idea of freedom is to benefit all people. If not you can fight for your freedom in a democratic way. This is the idea of freedom: to be free to fight for your freedoms.

[justjeshb]

The idea of freedom is to benefit those who control the ideas of what IS freedom. You said it yourself, you have to be the type of person who will fight for something to benefit themselves to get the true benefits of freedom.

No one has ever fought for freedom in a democractic way, it was always through attrition or hegemony or just an outright war, removing the old ones who lead through physical violence and replacing them with people who use mental manipulation for control

[RationalFuture]

"No one has ever fought for freedom in a democractic way":

this was exactly the point: you CAN fight for your freedoms in a democratic way only when you are FREE.

And of course they will use propaganda, it couldn't expect otherwise. And of course, Freedom and Democracy work if and only if the people are active members of the democratic decisions. If they are not, there is no place for complain, because it is already not a democracy. This is why the US is still not a democracy.

[justjeshb]

yes, so you're talking about something theoretical that has never and can never exist, it's a bit of a waste of time! why not talk about reality instead?

[RationalFuture]

It does exist. The place is called Europe. It is starting to dissipate, unfortunately , under the demons of Ignorance.

[negkreyol21]

so true and they call people to vote jist for the sake of voting not once have i seen the presidents debate before and during their careers they make promise and thats all....and did you notice that bootleg of valkyre its not even out in theathers in my country...lol

[justjeshb]

Yes, that is true freedom, to get those awesome cheap bootleg DVDs instead of having the freedom to be ripped off by the movie corporations.

So where in Europe is this real freedom? How long has it lasted for? when did it start? If there truly is freedom then how can there be ignorance? and then don't those ignorant have the freedom to be ignorant and intollerant of freedom?

[cassandralibra]

Go and check what Hitler did to the arts, or any dictator for that matter.The consequences to the quality of any art are detrimental. And the from the very first day the culture of the Third Reich look like the German cities on the very last day: A heap of worthless rubble...Same applies to art under Stalin, for that matter...

Gedankenfreiheit is a vital concept for any free individual, incompatible with this version of Islam, however...

[cassandralibra]

The algebraic zero, of which Muslims are so proud, was stolen from the Indians. Almost all so-called cultural achievements by Muslims are - in reality - thefts of the cultural achievements of the people they conquered and stole the land from...

[justjeshb]

Culture is never created out of thin air, it is always borrowed and traded and transformed, made into hybrids, it is only created by excange between people who think differently and have different enviromental circumstances.

You can call it "theft" if you want, but then every culture would be guilty of theft, so it's better to call it just "culture"!

[cassandralibra]

That's quite correct. And the Muslim armies came from the Arab peninsula and sacked countries East and West. What they found in terms of science in the East was much older even than what they found in Christian countries. There were complete astronomic systems in place, algebraic systems, linguistic systems...

All they had to do was to reap them...the same with almost every culture they plundered...

[TaskiyahEmaani]

thats a very erroneous and vauge notion.the muslims (whom you obviously presume 2 be all arab) did not rely on nations 2 invent the marvelous invention which they created, 4 example the first known organised hospital origionated in cairo (not persia) and the area was NEVER known for such advanced medicinals until universities (another area which the muslims where excelled).also the muslims where the first to have hygine standards,that is due 2 their religious obligation which demands purity.

[mouradovt]

which army she/he has heard they reached Malaysia, Indonesia (both 1/5 of Islamic world....none, just her/his imagination.

Islam was expanding (is still doing now) of its lovable n logic values

[cassandralibra]

of its lovable and logic values, and a few swords and beheaded kuffars, I assume..and stolen land.

Your Qur'an has a whole sura on bootie...

One fifth of it to the apostle of allah, right?

C'mon, you know the Qur'an better than I do. Nowhere was this "religion" brought in peace...Jews didn't want it, as it was a plagiarism of their scriptures, and Christians didn't want it either, for the same reason...BTW: we still don't want it!

[mouradovt]

Islam is expanding evryday that's out of your reach.

you don't want it that's why Allah created hell, he isn't evil sure.

the Jews have never (ever) lived in peace except in Islamic state such as of Moorish in Indalous, on contrary they were discriminated in Europe later i don't know why, seems a destiny.

[cassandralibra]

Of course, Islam is expanding. If you breed like rabbits (or course , the majority without being able to provide for their children) and punish your daughters for marrying outside your religion, it's only natural that you multiply in numbers. You do not multiply in intelligence, unfortunately. Islam should be banned in Europe as a fascist ideology. If we said about muslims what the Qur'an says about Christians, there would be riots (there are riots anyway, muzzies love them)

[Htown75]

Not taking a bath once a day is an insult to everyone's religion.

[srhfarr]

government thinking for people in general is an insult. does not matter where u are in the world. its BULLSHIT!

[Leon612]

WHOA! Hottie at 2:24

[peoutratus]

She was awsome ;)

[ikran2007]

i personly real like what the gov is doing their

[ogapadoga]

thank god im not born in iran...

[boxant]

"ideas contrary to the values of the revolution"

Scary stuff.

But on a lighter note, some really cute Iranian ladies in this clip.

[Every1DeservesIt]

The Ayatollahs know that artistic freedom will erode traditional culture. That's one reason they hate us and Israel.

[lalalala1111]

dumbass

[cassandralibra]

Impressive argument, Intelligent!

[VictimOfBoredom]

Yes, with "freedom", Iranians will be able to think for themselves! Oh the HORRORS!

[ejbh3160]

In the West a 'banned' artist would make MORE money for being 'outrageous' or whatever. In short being rejected by 'The Government' would be like a mark of doing it right.

Art is supposed to push boundaries & make people 'THINK'. & of course there's the problem if you have a repressive regime.

The measure of how 'cultured' a society & people are should be governed by how FREE the artists are to express (& question) that 'culture'!

EVERY culture on Earth could still improve! None are 'perfect'.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

Iran is a great ancient culture suffering under Islam, just as Europe suffered so many centuries under the Christian Church. When the forces of reason and enlightenment weaken Islam there will be a great renaissance among the Iranian people, as there was in Europe.

[mouradovt]

don't compare

a few days ago Iran has launched its own 100% Iranian satellite, so in Europe the scientist had been cooked when he said "the earth spins on its axis around sun"

[naliuj]

wtf are you talking about?

[mouradovt]

about how different there is between Iran today and Europe of middle-ages, not about religions.

[VictimOfBoredom]

No shit that a country now will inevitably be more advanced than another country 400 years before now.

NO SHIT. I fail to see how that says ANYTHING relevant of Islam (or Christianity for that matter).

[VT16]

Iran did not invent the satellite nor the rocket used to carry it. A non-Islamic, non-Persian people did. It's only because you live in a world far removed from the Middle Ages that you could even hear of and be influenced by technological advances such as this.

[mouradovt]

so who did learn you algebra n chemical equivalences? wasn't Djaber ibn Hayyan,

who did learn you algorithm? wasn't Al-Khwarizmi

who did you learn you medecine or meda-cina that's the name of muslims scientist ibno-cina

really ungrateful people.

[semprini20]

Islamic culture has produced many wonderful important contributions to world culture. But that's hardly an excuse for censorship in any country, be it Iran, US or where-ever. That's like Israel hiding behind the holocaust to justify Zionism, or Americans singing "My country tis of thee", whilst their government hijacks their civil liberties and shells out billions corporate parasites! It's not for the people it's the Status Quo

[VT16]

Well, that's like saying because the contributed some aspects of the science used to build rockets, that means they could build the rockets themselves, which isn't true. Much of the knowledge to do this comes from different sources, that doesn't mean they were all rocket engineers themselves.

[VictimOfBoredom]

You're comparing the Iran of a few days ago with the Europe of the 1600s...? Way to set the bar low! -_-

[phonixwk79]

Irans president is a faggot!

[phonixwk79]

I am talking about Iran stupid

[mouradovt]

the great Iran of scientists not artists.

[Turkisstory]

Aww, how they wiped out of history books how the Islam people ran the world for 700 years... just 80 years ago!

This is what happens when we distant from our Imam. We loose faith. So we loose belief and power.

But we are slowly rising... once again.

[mouradovt]

yes, we should be just more patient.

[phonixwk79]

Islam slaughtered the world, they don't contribute shit

[Turkisstory]

No, you mean the Ottoman Empire ruled half the world. Not Islam... Islam is ones personal belief between one and God.

So... You failed?... Well, if you want to put it in that concept, we should ALL hate Christians because the KKK is also Christian... right?

Yeah, it doesnt make sense now does it.

[phonixwk79]

Ottoman Empire was Islamic scourge. KKK is not following the Christian faith So...dumbass you fail

[WKaliber1]

I love Israel

[micahgee]

???

[mouradovt]

you may even like the devil.