Moog Minimoog Voyager w/ Mike Black

[pkpaulkersey]

If I had this thing I would never leave the house. I own a Moog LP and love it. I think my next synth has to be poly and am looking at the Prophet 08 but might get a Tetra 4 to save some loot.

[HomeGrownDubs]

Go with what you like, Analog, Digital, Software ALL of it!

[Guakingo]

Reminds me of Wakeman, some fabulous chops there

[stigb56]

NICE !! Minimoog is the best what a sound !!!

[fooloof]

Great playing. I came on here hear how a Voyager sounds. It sounds great, but I don't think it's for me. I don't understand synths other than to play them. I need something with fat presets. Probably going to shoot for a Virus T1 Polar. Thx for posting!

[thrcman]

I have both a Moog Voyager and A Virus TI Polar. Analog is ALWAYS fatter. But the Moog Voyager does not have polyphony, which the Polar does, so you create chrods that sound way fuller than any monophonic instrument. Still, the Polar is digital.

[Oxigenetic]

what a monster O.o great instrument

[felipescalador]

Hello I am guitarist but I have been always into electronic music and ive decided I'll buy my first synth. Which one do you recomend me to start?? I was thinking in a little phatty?? or maybe a virus ti?? is it good?? All this is so new to me.

[mynmyself]

do you have any clue about synthesis? what budget do you have... acces and moogs are one of the most expensive synth brands outthere (as well they are one of the best)... to start of i would buy somthing much simpler and basic, such as a microkorg or korg r3... is like if you learn guitar with a fender american strat... after learning what osc are, what is patching, etc... you can go with a real analog like a moog... depends on what you prefer to do... i have some analog and some digital...

[mynmyself]

digital are better in order to get some more modern sounds, as well as you can get polyphony and some ways of synthesis analogs cant, but analogs are better for experimentation, "dirty" sounds and more intuitive and with a nicer interface (normally)...

[B1SCOOP]

look for some roland analogs

[Drewbyy]

both of them are awsome, Though the moog would probably be a bit easier to use being much more simple.

[TomZentra]

Begin with something inexpensive (less than $1,000). After you are familiar with what a synth can do, then you can upgrade to something more expensive, such as a Moog or Virus.

[sap223]

Minikorg.

[thrcman]

Depends how much you want to spend. And do you want analog? Monophonic or polyphonic?

For any first synth player I think I would recommend the Little Phatty. Its easy interface and great looks, not to mention price is a perfect startup package. However, in my opinion, it sounds a little thin. I would invest a little extra and get yourself the Prophet 08. Analog polyphony madness, and it will always be a worthy contender in your future synth collection. Check it out!

[Cepsoelo]

If you're after smth "similar" to Minimoog for little money, try to find Waldorf Pulse. You can't go wrong with this thing. Little Phatty is cool, the new DSI Tetra is cool (+ polyphonic). All depends on how much you want to spend...

[Microsloth]

Hints of Rick Wakeman there... nice!

[Subtronik]

Just uploaded my first Voyager demo video.

It's the Select Series Fire.

[MikeTheTeacher]

Nice! I have to record some better quality video.

[thelightcommeth]

Mike do you think the little phatty or source come close to the Voyager in terms of the spectrum of sounds each can produce?

TIA

[MikeTheTeacher]

Haven't played the phatty. I've played the source. I think both give the Voyager a run for theior money, given the phatty and source can be had for a lot less. The voyager has the control surface and presets, but no arpeggiator [phatty].

The more I play it the ore one realizes it's, like Bob Moog, a real interactive thing with a life of it's own, hence no matter how good the emulation, it's still an emulation. The thing lives and breathes as you play it.

[F0nkyNinja]

Amazing.

[MikeTheTeacher]

"MrGrieves425" had this comment:

you should just throw that out and get a new hobby

=

Like what, Mr Grives? Sitting on the computer all day watching videos and typing Angry Typing Guy comments? I'm sorry your life has no purpose or meaning other than sitting at home being angry, but that's not my problem. Cheers!

[Subtronik]

You shouldn't respond to tards Mike, just delete their comments :)

Anyway, good playing. This is an awesome machine. I've got the Select Series Fire and I'll be making some videos soon too. There's so few Minimoog Voyager videos on youtube.

[tysonz2507]

I love my digital synths. But touching this thing makes you wet.

It is a beatiful machine... a joy to interact with... - so much nicer than my cinema display...

Worth every penny, if it's worth it to you..

[Phantom2109]

i really really really really really wish i could afford one of these......

[MRMILO57]

Mike, fantastic......your vids great.

[DarkShroom]

meh!

such rubbish on this thread from your usual "analougue has magic powers crowd"...

the power of modern PC's means no1 can tell the difference between this, admittedly sexy, £1000 waste of time and a VST plugin. Plus, with the Arturia plugin you can use it in polyphonic mode.

I will not deney that the Minimoog, it's non-resetting envelope filters in particular, have influenced pretty much every synthesier since, but the sound is now cliche. Go on, flame me...

[akrem3]

There's a huge difference between an analog synth like this, with such a strong signature sound, and a digital plug in.

Tons of plugins can sound close, but fail to capture the size and the feel you get from the real deal.

[DarkShroom]

close as in, the audience does not know the difference, is good enough for me.

on the double blind tests I have seen, people have not been able to identify the difference.

I guess you buy this if you are an enthusiast warn anyone against buying this because they think it will revolutionise their production.

[JanPB]

You are missing something. While it's true that by digitally sampling a Boesendorfer concert grand one obtains tones virtually indistinguishable from the original, nobody in his right ming would argue that performing Chopin on a Boesendorfer is a "waste of time". The instrument simply has a different feel.

[DarkShroom]

not just virtually indistinguishable, but to your listeners, totally indistinguishable.

Yeah I'd love to own one, but why does no-one rember how friggin awsome FM sounds. Every bloody plugin/product these days is analougue this, valve that...

I just wanted to remind everyone that we are in a digital revolution right now and it sounds awsome and I wish people would stop complaining about how everything has been "lost" just because they hear t-pain on the radio abusing autotune

[SpitfireFunk]

you are right in saying that digital sounds good. Some dirty sounds come from ym nordlead and microkorg. But nothing, touches moog.

[ckn4]

That's like saying the sound of a Telecaster is cliche. The instrument isn't a cliche, what you do with it MIGHT be, but that would be your own fault.

[VladtheEmailer]

I'll have you know that I went and bought one after watching your demo! Great work!

I love it!

[BlueAiress]

Spetacular, great demo of the voyagers capabilities. Smooth Transition, great right hand speed as well.

[albatros777]

Meh if I want the analog sound I just turn up the analog drift on my ion. I can even make it sound like a broken analog if I turn it up high enough.

*Yes I'm just making excuses cause I'm jealous.*

[shaunoftheundead]

can someone explain what the difference between analog and digital is?

[apelsinljuice]

analog is real sound, like a piano, rhodes piano or a guitar. digital is fake sound. Minimoog is a "real" synth. With real sounds coming out! It's not from a computer :)

[shaunoftheundead]

haha sweet! Thanks for the info :)

[Landkrappen]

The difference between analog and digital sound, is quite the same as the difference between LP's and CD's, the digital sound is the "true" soundwave decoded to a binary combination, and it will always suffer at least a minor quality decrease compared to a truely analog signal.

[Joshplaysinstruments]

CDs are not analogue?

[graceoverdiamonds]

sigh...the things we've lost in our digital era...

[mantagrae]

lol ::pats grace on the back::..its gonna be alright....

[Farksisten]

Not exactly. Analog is electronic where you modify voltage and current to get desired result. Digital is basically computerized (binary code).

Pianos and guitars are acoustic.

[JanPB]

I repeat, there is nothing wrong with a Boesendorfer or a Stradivari. The fact that sounds of an instrument can be recorded and played back by other means is irrelevant.

[d3p3ch3mod3]

I'm so tired of this new crap going on where people think that a digital synth sounds "more analog" when really it's just that it has like 50 different modulations and polyphony going on and the saws and square signals themselves just sound the same as a cellular phone

[snoozehard]

the voyager really isn't a digital synth

[djaakash]

it's not digital, mate. it's full analog (except for the midi control and some modern patch storage features + the touchpad controller)

[thrcman]

"I'm so tired of this new crap going on where people think that a digital synth sounds "more analog" when really it's just that it has like 50 different modulations and polyphony going on and the saws and square signals themselves just sound the same as a cellular phone".

lol true, but this one is one analog beast baby ;)

[d3p3ch3mod3]

yeah i think i knew this synth was analog & was in some weird way trying to say that the people that think digital synths sound analog because the pads are complex & have a lot of digital reverb and delay layers need to listen to this & see what *Really* makes something sound analog..

either that or I was drunk when i posted it

[danmusicstoke]

might be getting one of these soon,

=]

they sound awsome XD

[VladtheEmailer]

Great Video! No, sorry! Sadly, we were convinced by the companies to give up our moogs and buy digital synths. Little did we know how much they would SUCK! Moog rules! The sound has still not been duplicated, even the samples of mini-moogs are poor representations of the real thing! I am saving now for a voyager. I hate all the new synths. I love MOOOOOOG forever! It's stood the test of time and is still the best. Even how it's set up, much more user friendly, logica format.

[leeka1]

I want one!!!

[marvinkmooneyoz]

WOW!! phat is the right word...dont know my programming well enough, whats difference with little phatty? just the extra oscillotor and touch pad?

[killanator21]

i think the voyager has more modulation options and the little phatty only has 4 knobs which you assign to different parameters and little phatty has less keys.

[PinoCarella]

is a very jewel!! mitic!! bombastic! it's fantastic!

[tentwo]

a lot of producers are using digital soft synths now. after layering, eq, effects and mastering you cant tell the difference.

[TheBerlinPhoenix]

yeah, that may be right. but to tweak the same sound out of a REAL machine is much more fun and waaay easier, imo

[synthargentina]

is true that the prophet 08 is the best analog synth ever?so far than the others is him?or is a cuestion of nostalgic matter?yesterdays was the analog era,in the 80's was the digitals...and now...is the engeneer signature era?very good video, the mini moog...is amazing

[killanator21]

well, "best synth ever" depends on what type of sound you want, however it is one of the best new synths IMO.

it does seem today everyone is going back to the analogue synths, for nostalgia and the better sound

[KeithPhillips]

I'd have to say that the Andromeda A6 is loads better than the P8 in my opinion. The A6 is by far my favorite modern synth. And analog too. Can't beat that. :o)

[12string]

I really like it but why only 44-key keyboard?

Is it to keep the price down?

[TheRyowolf]

44 is big enough for me. It is only monophonic after all. You better be rippin a fat solo if you get a keyboard bigger than that...

[DonkeyFist]

It's pointless to buy it with a keyboard. Get the rackmounted version and buy a MIDI Piano and save yourself a load of cash.

[Dubreak]

Give up the clear blue-backlight pitch/mod wheels, xyz touchpad, 80% of the expensive wood finish, dedicated Moog made keyboard and easy access CV/Gate/modulation routing points in exchange for an M-Audio silver plastic POS. Fair enough, if there was no room spare in my trailer-park mobile home I'd by all means get an RME, but personally I'd rather get rid of my bed and sleep next to my electric blue voyager on the floor. :D

[mantagrae]

ohhhhh helllll yeaaaaa!! ::two beers up stone cold steve austin style::

[premediesel]

fuck, wish i spent the extra money for the keyboard instead of the rack version!

oh well.... both are amazing sounding.

[markcatarina]

polyphonic for cool chord sounds would be nice and a sequencer. multitimbrel, sampler, vocoder...workstationmoog, then maybe over$3000. or get a fantom x6 with synth expansion board. i know...nothing sounds like a moog. how does the vsynth compare? or just get the arturia software with 7 vintage synths.

[juno6]

You need an Alesis Andromeda... polyphinic moog sounds with sequencer... a true "workstationmoog" as you say...

[markcatarina]

thanks! i love synth bass too, and alot of old school songs used the minimoog for there bass lines, how would the alesis compare?

[juno6]

Pretty good. Check the Andromeda videos here on you tube, specially "Workshop Analoge Klangsynthese mit Alesis Andromeda" 1 & 2, "Synthesized Bach in W. Carlos Style", "Alesis A6 Andromeda: Bass sounds" and others. It´s a moog... + much more.

[markcatarina]

would it be cool to have both? :)

[juno6]

Cool yes, but overlaping functionality/sound... better spend the money on something more different.

[theFilch]

The Andromeda is nothing even close to moog. The A6 is way over priced, envelopes are slow and gooey, it sounds far more VA than analog, trying to do multiple modulations strains the cpu, gets zippery, PASS.......

[juno6]

Well, that depends of various factors, but you can minimize or even eliminate zippery by setting the right engine optimizer parameter. The envelopes are very fast in "ultra" mode, faster than a real mini. It was designed to respond equally no matter how many modulations are active, so it´s evident that you didn´t gave it a chance. And it does sound Moog and Oberheim, because I compared to it to both. Various blind tests were made on forums and no one could tell the difference.

[TheRyowolf]

I own an Alesis Andromeda and a Moog Voyager both. I can honestly say that anybody who badmouths the Andromeda is green with envy or is a terrible programmer. It is an absolutely BEAUTIFUL sounding synthesizer and is best friends with my Voyager.

The A6 is very HUGE sounding while the Voyager is very FAT sounding. However, the Prophet 08 is the HOTTEST sounding ;)

[theFilch]

Pass

[sweetcircuit]

arturia software.....?

[markcatarina]

type it in your browser. it is a software program for 7 vintage synths, minimoog is one of them. i don't know how good it is.

[TheRyowolf]

It's rubbish. I've done extensive sound comparisons. Anyone who says digitals can emulate analog doesn't know what they are talking about.

[HDL2112]

Amen.

[jubetube66]

then the unicorns would sound techno

[stormthelantern]

I'm not keen on the moog sound, but I'd sure like it as a bedside lamp! :P

[Sharpblue]

Imagine Rik Wakeman on that thing playing White Rock!!

[thegrant]

Imagine if the guy from The Unicorns could have afforded one of those

[bryceHUHwhat]

if you midi thru a few rack mount edish's it is poly

8 voice synth only $17,500

[hogberto]

i've actually done that.

money well spent!

[elusive3emotion]

spacy... :P

 *o*

[WARDISWARD]

a moog is for real soloists ..thats for sure ....Lovely synth ..I can't stop wondering how the world would be if the voyager was polyphonic ....aaaaghhhhhhhhh.....(

[yellowman081980]

fukin nutta!!

im gettin 1 o dem next month!! cant bloody wait>> shippin 4rm usa... nearly half price..!! Say BO!!

[bloozeman101]

love the lights!!!!!!!!

[VladtheEmailer]

This gives me the chills!! Incredible! Nothing on earth beats a Mini-Moog! You definitely are a Moog-Man! Thanks for posting~!

[Johnnynoir333]

what a cool instrument

[Jrayk1]

There's not a lot of videos that show the Voyager being played like this for this amount of time on Youtube.

[snafujohn]

keys and twisty knobs and pitch and mod wheels oh my and cool blue lights - I like it

[musicclubstudios]

wank away, wank away

[audiolemon]

Very nice