Burning Methane from Frozen Lake

[tallard666]

How odd this video plainly exposing AGW permafrost melt causing biogenic methane accumulation in a lake is used by nincompoops anti-AGW-pro-fracking to contrarily claim that "methane in water is 100% natural". Corporate liars know no shame in distorting science to their profit. The relevant point in the fracking/methane debate is not whether methane ever occurs naturally in water, but whether industry is increasing total methane levels. I hope Katey gets a chance to out those idiots.

[lovebigboobs29]

Thats awesome!!! Cool video. Doubt its real but cool anyways.

[Arabhacks]

Jesus saves! and you can too!

At Walmart!

[Probablyacowtbh]

@mosesmoses2000 Shoo

[fhqwgads2]

@mosesmoses2000

Nice try, troll.

[lovebigboobs29]

@mosesmoses2000 Jesus isn't real. 

[tim0090]

pump some oxygen in there and light it!!! booom

[johny71c]

why are we not using this methane gas to make electricity

[Tartrus1]

@johny71c That's a great idea! Let's use another hydrocarbon that gives us less energy than coal to make electricity! >_>

[prebirth91]

@Tartrus1 less direct energy yes, less than half the emissions and over 100 000 trillion cubic feet found so far trapped in clathrates

[lovebigboobs29]

@johny71c Coal is better thats why

[touchmemove]

it would be nice if you put cheery bomb under the frozen lake...~but make sure the one who holds the video is a lil bit far from the lake..so that the viewer will saw how all of you blows ^_^

[Mohamed518]

one of these days someone will poke a hole a little too deep or drop a lit match into the hole and the whole lake will explode, just hope someone get's it on tape

[911sheeple]

They shoulda cooked a steak.

And that was Cool, dude with stick, make sure you burn and blind the chick when her face is near. Piss in his boots tonight.

[sroualdz]

Kinda like lightin' your own farts!

[beeblmeyer]

As the top two commenters state, this is quite real.

BTW, who's the dick with the stick?

[ThePeanutShark]

I wanted to see the whole lake just explode.

[bdriz16]

@ThePeanutShark

HAHAHA yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[TheUnwisePhilosopher]

New bushcraft survival technique.

[TrickyEmu]

Gas locked inside Siberia's frozen soil and under its lakes has been seeping out since the end of the last ice age 10,000 years ago. But in the past few decades, as the Earth has warmed, the icy ground has begun thawing more rapidly, accelerating the release of methane – a greenhouse gas 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide – at a perilous rate.

[Pangolinx1]

@TrickyEmu The methane that will be coming out of the Siberian and Canadian permafrost is literally frozen mammoth shit composting. The permafrost melt lakes up there boil in the summer with escaping methane.

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>*=* Cool, flamethrower !

[myCreativeDifference]

I'm wondering why this isn't focused on more in everyday new.. The implications of what the methane can do in the atmosphere is very scary.

[texNoz]

@myCreativeDifference

Why? so we can pass a new law prohibiting nature from performing it's due process?

Do you realize how ridiculous your statement sounds mate?

So if it were up front and in your face on the news, what difference would it make?

[myCreativeDifference]

@texNoz

That's not my point, my point is that most people don't even have a clue that this is happening. They should but they don't . I know we can't effect much change on what's happening but people should know that a lack of paying attention is causing things to change in a BIG way. Since you don't think it would help being on the news, which it probably wouldn't at this point, Don't you think people should know the consequences?

[texNoz]

@myCreativeDifference

What consequences?? A process that has been taking place for BILLIONS of years is now news? Suddenly because some scientist says "Methane is destroying our world" we're all chicken little? This process is considered to be carbon neutral and is part of a natural cycle that has taken place since the begining of life.

[911sheeple]

@texNoz, Oh thats right. I remember last Ice Age and Global Warming and there was an industrial revolution back then too. of course those Antlantians are nowhere to be found now.

Seems that people who deny Global Warming or protecting the earth always seem to believe Jesus will come back Just in Time and save the day when the earth is one big Booger.

Them having FAITH will Kill us all.

[lovebigboobs29]

@911sheeple Global warming isn't real. I dont believe in Jesus and I know that.

[allhailfoamy1]

nice job to the genuis that hit it with a pole hope your buddies were fans of their eyebrows

[HaoWenXiang]

Pack ice is packin'. They're out to get us. They already got the methane gas ready to bake the planet alive!

[CountBezukhov]

Yeah, Wolvenblacktalon1 (can I just call you Wol for short?), that’s methane, too. And, in fact, methane from cows and the meat industry is a major component of the greenhouse gases that are baking our planet. Termites, too, many of them belching out the gases from South American trees felled to develop cattle ranches to keep up with your demand for Big Macs. In fact, some think Methane may be causing ALL the effects we’re feeling - so far. (see CO2 and aerosols - running out of space here).

[texNoz]

@CountBezukhov

Doesn't "carbon neutral" mean anything to you people?

[T0ASTK1NG]

Alaska is the best

[silentsniperrr]

Hey?! Whats that rumbling!? Uh oh. BOOOOOOOM

[wolvenblacktalon1]

if you think global warming is coused by this what happens wene you fart thats methane to ?

[OsamaBinLooney]

ok note to self

don't set off fireworks on a frozen lake

[776281]

We are so screwed.

[sirblingsalot]

@776281 ..........yeah all the idiots are in charge

[LastTaboo]

...probably shouldn't have tried to blow her face off... removing her eyebrows is sure to be a deal-breaker.

[skittlepower95]

y dont they bottle the stuff????

[GameGuru302]

well.... we're boned

[bpkeane1]

Why hasn't the Gas Oil Corporations

found a way to use this for heating homes

and industries instead of just ignoring

it?. there is a way to break down CO2

emissions.

[Cuprum87]

@bpkeane1 I'm working on it at the university, in Perugia.

They are relatively stable at 1atm and -20°C, but it's difficult to produce them, and I'm working at creating compounds which will help to increase the efficiency in the process!

Sorr for my english ^_^

[twichy4life1]

Actually water vapor is creating most of the green house effect. In fact I think Global warming is just some name that "scientist's" made up just to make us worried about the end of the world and start buying more stuff. In the end it was only about cash. I used to think the opposite of this but some one changed my views.

[cookiejun]

I've heard this arguement a lot of times, and I am actually curious at what changed your views on this subject.

[Krantzstone]

I think I'm detecting some methane emissions from your comment.

[ikenwan]

You're right of course that water vapors do contribute to the effect (e.g from plane contrails at high altitude et. al), but if water vapors had the damage potential of CO2, or CH4 especially for that matter, you'd hear about it more often now, wouldn't you?

[askljdf12325]

Water vapor does create the majority of the greenhouse effect. Unfortunately, more CO2 means more water vapor - its a feedback cycle. This is one of the main reasons an increase in CO2 is so dangerous.

[ShipMonster]

In the meantime, some methane isn't waiting around to be extracted. University of Alaska Fairbanks professor Katey Walter Anthony studies how thawing permafrost is causing increased methane emissions. She's known for illustrating it by igniting a fireball.

[ivelosthewilltolive]

@ShipMonster That's Katey in this video!

[sexking83]

how is this possible?

[tcdelano]

holy shit

[rajivrios]

holy fuck.. I dont really want to imagine what would happen to the athmosphere because of the global warming and melting poles :S

[itsArthurKomar]

BAHAHAHAHHAHAH i loved the fireball

[345jkl]

What lake is this?

[yuliansim]

lake ass

[flickeries]

People ARE trying to harness the methane deposits, however these lakes don't produce enough to make setting up a company there profitable.

In light of the situation, methane gas is abundant at sea floor level and researchers are coming up with ways to convert it into an alternative fuel.

[weikath9]

wow!!

[wastedartist]

LoL¡¡ @ 0:11, looks like someone might need some new eyelashes XD.

Btw if u wanna trouble urself more, methane gas generating inside ur belly :O, unmesurable temp. of melted rock below ur feet, volcanos..., a sun that will grow and eat the planet before fading away, wandering asteroids, black holes preying in all the universe.....

That's it, human life is an insignifcant spark to it all, so go have Fun 4 as long as it lasts¡¡¡

[kwk86mcss]

People are so worried about these methane deposits, why can't we just harness it and use it for fuel?

[Creatorofsplab]

No, it's a real scientific phenomenon. Methane buildups in the earth get trapped in glacial ice.

[SPAZZUNAKI]

A propane tank would have killed them and this video would not have been made, you try it.

[Haitahx]

That guy whit a stick... is a retard...

[jkveda11]

oh yeah..I heard something on the BBC that as this melts, global warming is going to be sped up big time. Realy quite scary when you see it like this, imagine like the whole lake slowly melting and that coming out of it. Pretty sinister.

[DeathShamans]

Laugh now silly children, you have seen nothing yet.

[thatsthetime]

Whats your problem? These kids made the video, and they're having fun doing their jobs. You obviously needed to watch it on youtube so maybe YOU haven't seen anything yet.

[AlleyeSun]

This is very serious.... appears from the comments about global warming that only a few really get it.

[jkveda11]

I dont realy understand, so this is going to cause global warming because the gases are going to be trapped in the atmosphere or something? It realy does scare me this whole global nightmare stuff. I know its happening but dont realy get the science in it.

[billnipp]

@AlleyeSun We should capture this methane to heat our homes... Especially in Siberia!

[Taydrum]

too bad global warming doesnt exist!

[snoozieboi]

Probably not yet, hopfully never but still possibly maybe, definetly should be talked about still. Just like if a plane is seeming to run out of fuel before crossing the atlantic should you deny that it could run out? Or should you speed up? Should you try reducing speed? Study if there is pressure differences you could travel with rather than against? Wouldn't discussing things possibly help the situation?

[Taydrum]

you cant prevent the emergance out of an ice age

[knkartha]

Not good news ...

[snoozieboi]

Or humans. Burgers do produce a lot of Co2 compared to the same meal in bread. Though I'm really not a fanatic in this area.

[lajollascott]

Here's the thing: let's say this is just a naturally occurring cycle. In which case, we're reducing pollution for nothing. This is bad...how? And, of course, if it's NOT naturally occurring, then it's vital we address it as seriously and as quickly as possible.

There is no downside to acting as though climate change is man-made.

[thedefog]

I'm all for reducing and limiting the amount of pollution we create, and getting rid of the use of fossil fuels all together. All I was getting at was that there is an endless amount of data that needs to be crunched still, and we still really are only scratching the surface of what we know about our own planet's climate.

[DeathShamans]

you are the only smart dog on here. we've seen nothing yet and there is nothing anyone can do about it, mother earth is pregnant. Have you ever seen a woman scream in childbirth? Buckle your seat belt, its gonna be a bumpy ride.

[thedefog]

I'm just sick of all the doom and gloom predictions, when truthfully nobody really knows what the hell they're actually talking about. It doesn't really matter anyway, because we're not too far away from the technological singularity. By the time any of this stuff is really even going to matter, we'll all be gone anyway.

[thedefog]

I understand where your coming from. The only downside would be billions of dollars that we don't have wasted on a potentially naturally occurring phenomenon, and instilling more fear into an already on-edge world. But it's not like we're not already doing that anyway. And I'd rather it be wasted on something that could potentially be than to delay something that is inevitably going to be. Still though, I doubt the human race will even be around long enough to witness the changes we'd be making.

[lovebigboobs29]

@lajollascott Climate change isn't man-made so I will live my life as I want.

[lajollascott]

@lovebigboobs29 With an argument as incisive and cogent as that—not to mention such an erudite screen name—I am now utterly convinced you are correct. Well done, you.

[lovebigboobs29]

@lajollascott LOL I dont care if you believe me or not. Its total ignorance to believe its man-caused. I am going to live my life not worrying about it nor changing the way I do stuff.

[lajollascott]

@lovebigboobs29 Yes, lovebigboobs29, as I said, you are right. If there is anything, lovebigboobs29, of which you could never be accused, it is total ignorance, as evidenced by the overwhelming mass of scientific proof you have offered up. I am duly chastene, as well as humbled to be around as great a boon to the human race as you, lovebigboobs29. Thank you, lovebigboobs29. Thank you.

[lovebigboobs29]

@lajollascott I sense sarcasm.

[snoozieboi]

Sorry for sounding so "all knowing" I'm fluctuating all the time from a sceptic to a believer of the hysteria. Lately discussions with a friend of me studying for a doctors degree has given me a nice overlook of many viewpoints, this turned me back to believing it was man made again. And IF it is man made (which i do not know at all) , but IF, then we could be around the point of no return. Your comment is completely valid and should not be voted down :)

[thedefog]

The comments that are voted down are probably read more anyway. Besides, people have the right not to agree with my opinion.

So I guess at this point, we both agree that excess release of methane is a bad thing, regardless of the origin.

I just wish a bit more emphasis was placed on solutions for the current problems like this. Think about if someone came up with a good way to trap all that methane and use it.

[snoozieboi]

I strongly agree with you if you got the impression I wasn't :) Also Methane is 21 times more potent as a green house gas, the problem with "collecting" alle the gas seeping out from the tundra is just like a solar cell. How to collect all that gas/sun energy efficiently when it's scattered diffusely over a large area.

[BenjaminisaacN]

yeah we should burn it. think about it. it would be global cooling activity to turn ch4 into co2

[snoozieboi]

There is alot to process yes, but one thing is significantly different from earlier cycles; the amount of co2 in the atmosphere has never been this big.

[BenjaminisaacN]

hahahaha your kidding right?

the amount of co2 in the atmosphere actually relatively very very low

they are the highest in a while, yes but live has thrived on the planet in co2 levels many times more than current levels

[snoozieboi]

Sorry then, "never" was a bad word , co2 ppm from ice extractions go 4-800k years back, modern humans originating from Africa go 200k years back, (chimps 5millyrs). Co2 ppm count has never been this high since "we" came to live here. Out of the 400k last, the last 400 years are atleast alarming in co2 increase. Then again co2 ppm were quite different 300million yrs ago. Life will always adapt, but I'd prefer change of co2 10x over 1m yrs than 2x over 400years.

[snoozieboi]

Suddenly I feel like I'm on the side of Christians and Intelligent Design supporters (which I'm not). There was "way more" carbon in the air at the time of dinosaurs, Oil is the remains of mostly algae-size organism that fell to the ocean floor when dead (they still do) but did at a larger extent back then and thus reduced co2. The thing is, there has never been more co2 in the air than today reading geological data from way back before dinos. We just don't know what will happen.

[alexsocc]

LOL there is nothign to worry about its a myth

[QwertzProductions]

There are about 1700 giga TONS of Carbons (Methan mainly) in the Permafrost!

That's more than 10 times as much as all mankind has ever produced by burning oil, gas and anything else!

And guess what: The permafrost IS MELTING!

If that continues for a few more years, than all efforts will have been for nothing and nothing again!

Then there will really be nothning to worry about becuase then it's too late!

Maybe you should think about that!

[hsvfanmoritz]

sorry ...

[MuffinMan6k]

@snoozieboi well god did promise he wouldnt use water to destroy the world anymore, so i guess hes going to burn us alive lol

i wonder what the next generation after fire and water is going to be...

[quidproquo2004]

@snoozieboi The real sad thing is that it doesn't matter how bad it gets; there will always be people denying humanity's culpability or even the fact that indeed something is happening.

[van1980]

@quidproquo2004 Like during the Carboniferous?

[peles73]

Wow!

[Matt0401]

That's really cool. I just saw a BBC series where they showed this phenomenon in Siberia. It's weird seeing that mixture... fire and ice. Maybe they could capture the methane as a fuel.

[youknuckle]

If you can find a way, youve just solved the energy crisis :P

[Matt0401]

Not necessarily, but the valuable time bought will help tide us over until renewables have high enough penetration.

[siamiam]

that was sweet :D