My father has that phone, its pretty awesome, the touch screen is awesome, but the batterylife...damn you'll probably need to recharge it everyday, but I don't know if that's because the 3G is on, but still, an awesome phone
I have this phone & previouslyy had the iphone and if im honest i must prefer this as you don't have to close windows and itss much smaller and lighter than the iphone also!! :)
Through Wi-Fi no, but you have to get a Data Plan in order to buy the phone. Which runs you about $30-40 a month, unless you get Unlimited Everything through Sprint, which costs $99 a month.
I highly doubt that the iPhone will be getting Flash anytime soon because they would lose a ton of money. you can play games FOR FREE on flash rather than buying an app for it!
Both phones are great but its hard to compare when the iPhone is in its THIRD generation while this is Pre's first! IMO, the multitasking on Pre is enough for it to win over the iPhone anyday. I am confident that the next generation Pre will take all criticisms into consideration and address them just as Apple has.
Well I guess that's one of the main reasons why Apple doesn't really want Flash on the iPhone, at least not so soon... Flash would enable you to play thousands of free games made in flash online, and far less people would buy all the games from the App Store...
not a bad substitute. I've been an iphone user for two years, but there isn't anything that excites me and makes me want to switch as quickly. At&t would be the only thing that would want me to change. At&t is an awful provider and i'm constantly finding it to be an issue. to whomever is choosing between the pre and the iphone. id say iphone. much more solid os and at&t should catch up soon. the pre still has a lot to prove.
dont you think its stupid how the iphone didnt even be able to take video when the oldest cell phones have it but nothing against apple i have an ipod touch and love it but no video :( util now thats really said
My friend got this and I was messing around with it. It's an iphone contender except loading an application is laggy compared to my 1st generation iphone which loads fast.
its really not ugly at all my mom has one and it looks really nice.better than the iphone in my opinion.i like the iphone but its like a little thin brick in ur pocket and i hate holdin it up to my ear cuz it feels like im holdin a ipod to my ear or somethin.just a awkward feelin to me. but the pre is a cute little phone.i wasnt sure about it at first but when i held it in my hand it looked alot better than it does in videos and pictures
Great review. I have the Pre myself and have to say I'm glad I stuck with Sprint. Not only do I have the best phone on the market, I also pay much less than Verizon and AT&T customers and my coverage is just as good as Verizon's. And when I don't get a signal, Sprint lets me roam free on Verizon's awesome network. But that scarcely happens. Life is good with Pre.
I saw a Doc Viewer in there - I'm thinking they ported Documents2Go from the earlier Palm devices. Though I don't know that for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Nice review man , and nice device too . The software looks good and performs well . However I don't like the hardware also there is no video recording , but still for their first web os they delivered more than apple did .And I think palm may put more things with upcoming updates .
Yeah because technology has advanced since the very first iPhone was introduced.. People act like the first iPhone was released yesterday.. it set the stage for a cell phone revolution. Every. Fucking. Smartphone. Is. Copying. iPhone. Now.
Don't get me wrong I have an iphone and when I say apple didn't deliver I mean it , because I have used jailbroken iphone and it has copy and paste , mms , forwarding option and you can open any app in the background , also some people are working on enabling flash content in the browser , so where is apple ?? , they just want to protect their device from jailbreaking , while they should have worked on the iphone and delivered what people wanted .
It's impossible to please everyone. And iPhone was meant to be a consumer smartphone, and it really was the first smartphone to appeal to consumers. They didn't include all of the features that standard smartphones may have because they didn't want to overcomplicate it right away and have a shitty end-user experience (which is what Apple is all about, the user experience).
Flash on phones sucks I don't know why people want it so bad. It's terrible! It's almost useless.
I use to think flash on phones sucks too , because it makes the browser very slow , but now I want it because some web sites I visit uses flash content , and these videos are not on youtube . And I really don't know how forwarding option would complicate the user experience , to me I think the os3.0 should have been released a while ago .
Yeah forwarding was kind of a given but I really don't think many people honestly use forwarding enough to care.. I've never wanted to forward anything. I've never wanted to copy and paste either until I got 3.0 and now I try and copy and paste everything just because I can :P
Also the flash scenario isn't entirely Apple's fault.. They've been working with Adobe to try and make a solution but Adobe hasn't been able to come up with anything.
with the exception of the tech flaw with the battery, the pre is awesome. It breaks so many rules and pulls so many things together in a way never even conceived of on any device (portable or not)! And to think, you could just throw it away, buy a new one, and not loose a single bit of information! This phone has the most bomb integration of social networking and other information, organized in the most logical way. I am way sold
About the flash its ready , but apple didn't approve it they said that the cpu wont be able to run it the way that apple wants , but it would be great if apple gave you the chance to enable it or not .And true you don't use forwarding all the time , but when you need it you will say I wish if.... !!! .
I would rather wait for a good experience than use the current flash that they have on cellphones. It's fucking terrible.
And I won't be saying "I wish" now because now I have forwarding on 3.0 :P
But before 3.0 I've never EVER needed it. I find that when you forward a message it always causes a slew of extra messages asking what it was pertaining to and who it was originally from...
I got it when it leaked a few days ago and GM IS the final one. It was just released to developers ahead of the full iTunes release.
GM isn't a "beta 6" or something. It is the exact same as the final version which will be available on iTunes today. And I could still get that one if I wanted so waiting would've accomplished nothing :P
I haven't noticed any bugs at all, but the 3.0 released through iTunes can have bugs too. No initial firmware is without bugs. 2.0 had bugs, 1.0 had bugs, 3.0 will have bugs for SURE. But I haven't noticed any at all.
What do u mean by flash sucks? dont sound like a n00b here and say something rational...Flash is a MUST have for all smartphones. Any smartphone that doesnt supports flash websites is NOT a smart phone no matter what your steve jobs says.
Wow, you're an idiot. clearly you ignore the fact that many modern smartphones still don't have flash in the browser. This is because Flash is really slow and bogs down the browser. Have you ever seen a high-end smartphone running a YouTube video from the full version of the size? The framerate is unwatchable!!
Ok, now you're really a certified idiot n00b. Take some time out and watch how smoothly the Flash videos play on smartphones from Nokia and others. Yeah your crapple gayphone doesn't even support copy and paste while even the cheapest phone has that function.
I recommend you to think before you speak and save the remaining brain cells.
You really think they play smoothly? There is truly something wrong with you if you think that the Nokia E71, Nokia N97, or the HTC Hero play flash "smoothly". It's so friggin slow! After seeing how even the nicest new devices play flash, no wonder Apple doesn't want anything to do with it.
You clearly are drinking too much apple kool aid. You need a timeout dude. The only reason there is no Flash supported by Apple is that Apple doesnt want to pay Adobe for it. What matters for a power user is multitasking and Flash videos. Apple has none , so EPIC Fail.!
Actually. You. Are. Completely. Wrong. Phones had the same thing iphone's have now, the only thng that made apple better is that they made a faster phone.
And somehow people seem to think that "Alot of apps" make a phone better.
You honestly believe that all the touch-screen smartphones aren't copying iPhone??
I'm 100% sure that if iPhone didn't exist, this phone wouldn't exist, and I'm very happy that the iPhone was so successful because it kicked the smartphone market into competition mode, and as a result we have much better phones to choose from.
I think that that is a DIRECT result of the iPhone being made by Apple. If you like the Pre, you'd better than Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive. :)
Even though you said it's being copied by others you still haven't even said HOW other phone's copied the IPhone, so lol? Also i'm sure this phone's features are better and more advanced than the iphone, but a Apple fanboy probably does not think so.
Then again you probably thought that Voice recognition never existed before Apple put it on the Iphone too, AmIRite?
I bet you didn't know that the person who designed Palm Pre also Designed the Iphone - BUT you probably think it's a conspiracy.
Obviously I knew that the same guy who was working on the iPhone developed the Palm Pre. And he failed. Did you not hear the people complaining about the Pre's plasticy build quality, sharp edges, and tiny keyboard? :)
If you know anything I don't have to explain to you how these smartphones are copying the iPhone and have been largely influenced by the iPhone's polished user interface and outstanding build quality and form factor. It's so obvious my dead relatives could SMELL the similarities.
......If your excuse is the interface and the functions, you would be saying that Apple copied LG Prada and just added a few more Apps? Seriously? Don't you have some solid excuses to ride on? Instead of riding Apples dick?
Since this phone has a camera i asume it was "stolen" from apple?
I bet you didn't know apple was sue'd for a couple million to "copying" (if you like) for copying and clearly 100% hijacking designs - but that probably flew over your head
iPhone was the first phone with that form factor to become popular. If iPhone never existed do you really think that form factor would be as wide-spread as it is now? NO it definitely would not. Furthermore, the selection of applications, having them all layed out on the home screen is Apple's concept for a touch user interface and it has since been copied many times! The App Store? The FIRST unified center for all applications. Consider that copied by every single smartphone platform to date!!
THAT FORM IS BASIC FOR TOUCH SCREENS, YOU FOOL, ALOT OF TOUCH PHONES HAVE HAD THAT FORM BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY MUCH NEEDED AND PREFERED BY BUYERS.
What? You mean the menu where you pick camera, games and whatever right? The selection of the applications was used on the LG Prada and MOST OTHER PHONES EVEN IF IT WAS TOUCH SCREEN OR NON-TOUCH SCREEN so lol?
The only thing that makes App store different from others is that it has "lots" of Application's that it and it doesnt mean shit either,
Apple copied from all the major phone manufacturers and it still cant do what the other are doing for many years? Copy and Paste? MMS? Voice command? The Apple fanboys just got these features in the new 3.0 software while the rest of the world have been using them for a very long time. Now the next iPhone will have flash and then the apple fan boys will start wetting their pants saying oh iPhone is the first one with Flash. Stupid morons.
Man, wake up and face the reality, sure Apple introduced these things only in new 3.0 firmware but these features are trivial when compared to all the other great things that iphone gave to the world. For example multitouch gestures, appstore the whole internet experience on mobile device, to name a few, which is why every other major company is trying to achieve. Please stop living in a world of denial.
*Sigh* MultiTouch existed long ago - the reason it isnt on many phone like an accelerometer is because it's jackshit, usefull but not that usefull, and i highly doubt you even use it that much.
Typical, App store? You guys are never *keen* on talking about a phones functionality and use are you? The Iphone doesnt even support flash.
"greats thing that Iphone gave to the world", sorry, Apple isnt god and neither is the Iphone.
I dont care about App stores 65 thou' apps especcialy since the only ones worth playing are the top 10 - like i said along with many other people - An App store doesnt make a phone the functionality and things you actually use do.
But since you like to use it so much, i guess your one of those "speshul" people that find it amazing that the Iphone has a "blood pressure app"?
While im still amazed that its still stuck on a shitty camera and still cant send MMS yet :(
who the hell is going to live to use all those apps??? battery life sucks cause the only way to use the phone 2 touch it
then u cant even remove the battery if it freezes u have to send it to apple or steve jobs so he can reboot the dam thing is sucks period QWERTY key boards are the best now if apple use there heads an added that 2 the iphone then i would say the iphone is the best till then it sucks!!!!
Internet is great i had an iphone but everything else sucks battery life it freezes and u cant remove the battery
and no flash for some night flicks they just got copy and paste 3g iphone sucks now cause theres a 3gs?? then they will make a 3gs2 and the 3gs will suck its crazy and the bill for the phone is like $120 bucks cause the plans are shytty! and then they upgrade versions like every 6 months and it does not suppot flash!!!!!
Yeah except that the iPhone and LG Prada were designed at the same time, and the iPhone was announced before the LG Prada was released. Furthermore, LG did TRY to sue Apple for copying their design but only because they thought they could make big money for it, and it was found that Apple did not copy their design.
That probably flew in one ear and out the other because you lack something in the middle.
Apple designs things for many months before ever telling anyone about it. iPhone was announced at MacWorld in January 2007, knowing what we know about Apple and because of all the rumours about "iPhone" that were in everyone's head since 3 years prior, one can only assume that Apple spent a long time developing the iPhone, and judging by the quality of the respective devices I'd say the iPhone was in design stages long before the LG Prada.
Apple designs things many months before ever telling anyone about it? You really are on their dick, because so does EVERY. OTHER. FUCKING. TYPE. OF. MANUFACTURER. IN. THE. WORLD.
Obviously, but Apple designs things for a great deal longer. The iPhone was rumored since 2002, with the density of the rumors really picking up in 2004, and many of the rumors as far back as 2004 actually held true in the release of the device, what does that tell you? Apple had been designing the iPhone for YEARS before it was released.
Anyway, the iPhone was also the first to have a proximity sensor, ambient-light sensor, and an accelerometer in one device.
for a great deal longer? Yes it MIGHT (no idea) have been rumoured since 2002, but that does not mean that's when the devlopment started lmao.
Ffucking PS2 was rumoured a year after PS1 was bloody released and it never started devlopement until later the PS3 was rumoured early and started devlopement just a bit later than the PS2 did, what makes apple so special? everybody flippin does it.
iPhone was the first phone to be controlled by a large CAPACITIVE touch screen, which makes a huge difference, obviously sparked a huge trend after companies realized they can't copy the iPhone with el cheapo pressure-sensitive screens.
What I'm saying here is that Apple had a LOT to do with the state of the smartphone, it's undeniable the influence the iPhone had over all other smartphone platforms.
I LOVE the Palm Pre, but you know as well as I that without the iPhone it would not exist.
Other phones also had a prox sensor and a accelerometer IN ONE - i dont know about a ambient-light sensor tho - but having one more extra thing doesnt make Apple as great as you think it is.
I guess since all TV's are shaped the same these days that the form was copied? No...
The only thing i probably give Apple their props for, is the speed of it.
I think they need someone who is a really good public speaker. It's more difficult than you would think. I think I'm pretty good at it, but I live in Canada hence the Pre not yet available :P
Wat is the Memory on the palm pre?
elijahmilw18 2 months ago
oh noes, the "however guy" returns.
tombstonegaming 4 months ago in playlist More videos from PhoneArena
Did they fire this guy? he's absolutely terrible and annoying.
TheDepreso 5 months ago
I thought this video was reviewing the palm pre, not the apple iphone...
C4RMICH43L159 7 months ago
i got bored so i went to invent nuclear weapons.
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C4RMICH43L159 7 months ago
My father has that phone, its pretty awesome, the touch screen is awesome, but the batterylife...damn you'll probably need to recharge it everyday, but I don't know if that's because the 3G is on, but still, an awesome phone
serazac25 10 months ago
The way you talk...I can't even finish the video
oohiitscourt 11 months ago
Damnn You Readd Retaredd Boring ImLike Falling Asleep What Happen To The Other Guyy??
iLoveMyHaters97 1 year ago
STOP PAUSING U MUG!!!
Demtres88 1 year ago
for some reason i feel depressed!
ourbloodyrevolution 1 year ago 5
@ourbloodyrevolution lol me too
tranceandsun 1 year ago
@ourbloodyrevolution Lmaoooo
ddarkreturns 1 year ago
i feel like i'm auditioning a bad actor to do a palm pre video review.
chaplinshouse 1 year ago
BORING!!!!!!!
twistedvideos555 1 year ago 2
this is the palm pr.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
DaveMonty011 1 year ago 3
@DaveMonty011 lawlz!!!!!!!! (:
98wq1 1 year ago
Sounds like he's reading, but his review is actually pretty decent. Very useful.
monstersheder 1 year ago
this video is shit ... i feel like im in my algebra 2 class
ausio309 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
horrible damm review!!!!
ditter360 1 year ago
horrible damm review!!!
ditter360 1 year ago
it seems like hes reading what hes saying from a piece of paper. thumbs up if you agree
Cartoon2013 1 year ago
wtf, this review was SCRIPTED , he's reading it ,,,,,,,,,, AWFUL REVIEW
props28 1 year ago
he voice is so anyyoing! he has no emotion what so ever!
doggylub15 1 year ago 3
This phone is absolutely fantastic. But this isnt a review.. Your simply reading out something thats been printed on the internet.!
TheChampionGamer 1 year ago
im thinking of getting one...is it REALLY worth it?
aggressivegeek 1 year ago
@aggressivegeek yes it really is i had one but had to sell it cause i got behind in bills and ive regretted that =(
marlk05 1 year ago
Couldn't you like a real person... -_-'''
99HayZ99 1 year ago
it rocksss
Priscilla060 1 year ago
it was all good until the last comment, in noway will this beat the iphone, its a good phone, but iphone is elite
solojam 2 years ago
I have this phone & previouslyy had the iphone and if im honest i must prefer this as you don't have to close windows and itss much smaller and lighter than the iphone also!! :)
xxhanziechickxx 2 years ago
this is amazing
MrLoveHate 2 years ago 3
oh my god this is so annoying
talk about the phone the way you think it is
not from notecards..
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duh250 2 years ago 28
right on
ConferAll 2 years ago
do you have to pay for internet
chubzygowl 2 years ago
Through Wi-Fi no, but you have to get a Data Plan in order to buy the phone. Which runs you about $30-40 a month, unless you get Unlimited Everything through Sprint, which costs $99 a month.
TheRobertEdgeNetwork 2 years ago
nooo wheres the guy with teh funny accent? D:
MRsnugglezz 2 years ago 36
hahhahaha
ideess 2 years ago 2
@MRsnugglezz He went to find ze nuclear wessels to recharge ze dilithium chamber.
Lukergamer 1 year ago
Can you upload music onto it? because i have alot of music stored on my computer
linkcart 2 years ago
I highly doubt that the iPhone will be getting Flash anytime soon because they would lose a ton of money. you can play games FOR FREE on flash rather than buying an app for it!
Both phones are great but its hard to compare when the iPhone is in its THIRD generation while this is Pre's first! IMO, the multitasking on Pre is enough for it to win over the iPhone anyday. I am confident that the next generation Pre will take all criticisms into consideration and address them just as Apple has.
xcarlyrose 2 years ago
Well I guess that's one of the main reasons why Apple doesn't really want Flash on the iPhone, at least not so soon... Flash would enable you to play thousands of free games made in flash online, and far less people would buy all the games from the App Store...
tahaa7 2 years ago
Don't bet on it,
any shit is hard to play when you don't have a real keyboard.
zerotran0 2 years ago
wait, iphone doesnt have flash? LOL
reallysecretusername 2 years ago 2
Just so you guys are aware, Verizon is going to start carrying the Palm Pre within the next few months...
gomulkaa 2 years ago
not a bad substitute. I've been an iphone user for two years, but there isn't anything that excites me and makes me want to switch as quickly. At&t would be the only thing that would want me to change. At&t is an awful provider and i'm constantly finding it to be an issue. to whomever is choosing between the pre and the iphone. id say iphone. much more solid os and at&t should catch up soon. the pre still has a lot to prove.
andrewvath 2 years ago 2
looks cool
noobwalker93 2 years ago
dont you think its stupid how the iphone didnt even be able to take video when the oldest cell phones have it but nothing against apple i have an ipod touch and love it but no video :( util now thats really said
ranson2012 2 years ago
haha thats apple for you
petayV8 2 years ago
when is it going to be avaliable in the UK?
chocolat80 2 years ago
Do u have a thing against apple?
fjavaid26 2 years ago
What a great phone!
So sad that the shape is quite ugly and that the keypad is not that nice. But the sowftware! It's just wonderful!
What's the camera like btw?
DJThijz 2 years ago
Why is it 95% Of Apple defenders are unable to argue with fact's and just try to run around in circles? God...
Grim8701 2 years ago
do they only do this in 8GB? I would be soo interested if they did 16 or 32!!
takeyourhatoff 2 years ago
My friend got this and I was messing around with it. It's an iphone contender except loading an application is laggy compared to my 1st generation iphone which loads fast.
DJTEVAdotCOM 2 years ago
nice
but iphone rules
AboDi22lalala 2 years ago
the MS narrator has has waaaay more personality than this guy doing the reading.
on the other hand my brother has a palm and m sure he'd want to see this...
not for me though.
zashima 2 years ago
i hate this guy i would honestly rather listen to that borat guy
slimmfady 2 years ago 5
His breathing is annoying
Ahil982 2 years ago 3
Does PhoneArena has a guy who can realy make a nice review ? A likely to watch review ?
THEPOPEBANNEDME 2 years ago
are the aps expensive or cheap
Soccerballin6 2 years ago
i have problems with this phone
1. its fuggin ugly
2. its waaay to small
3. ITS JUST FUGGIN UGLY
im cool with the operating system, seems rather cool in fact, but they honestly should have used it somewhere else (its too ugly)
821Drifter128 2 years ago
its really not ugly at all my mom has one and it looks really nice.better than the iphone in my opinion.i like the iphone but its like a little thin brick in ur pocket and i hate holdin it up to my ear cuz it feels like im holdin a ipod to my ear or somethin.just a awkward feelin to me. but the pre is a cute little phone.i wasnt sure about it at first but when i held it in my hand it looked alot better than it does in videos and pictures
ricohogan9109 2 years ago
IT'S MOBILE not MOBIL you stupid dick.
saintlysimon 2 years ago
Great review. I have the Pre myself and have to say I'm glad I stuck with Sprint. Not only do I have the best phone on the market, I also pay much less than Verizon and AT&T customers and my coverage is just as good as Verizon's. And when I don't get a signal, Sprint lets me roam free on Verizon's awesome network. But that scarcely happens. Life is good with Pre.
mastersppd 2 years ago
All you Palm Pre haters I ve new for you ....Palm Pre Rulessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
prilogistic 2 years ago
what the fuck is he doing.. reading a script?
DeathstormX 2 years ago 6
what about office files like word?
ATOMICMENTHOL 2 years ago
I saw a Doc Viewer in there - I'm thinking they ported Documents2Go from the earlier Palm devices. Though I don't know that for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
rml695 2 years ago 2
Nice review man , and nice device too . The software looks good and performs well . However I don't like the hardware also there is no video recording , but still for their first web os they delivered more than apple did .And I think palm may put more things with upcoming updates .
ahmadmz3 2 years ago
they DO ^^
DenimRojas 2 years ago
Yeah because technology has advanced since the very first iPhone was introduced.. People act like the first iPhone was released yesterday.. it set the stage for a cell phone revolution. Every. Fucking. Smartphone. Is. Copying. iPhone. Now.
jellotime91 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong I have an iphone and when I say apple didn't deliver I mean it , because I have used jailbroken iphone and it has copy and paste , mms , forwarding option and you can open any app in the background , also some people are working on enabling flash content in the browser , so where is apple ?? , they just want to protect their device from jailbreaking , while they should have worked on the iphone and delivered what people wanted .
ahmadmz3 2 years ago
It's impossible to please everyone. And iPhone was meant to be a consumer smartphone, and it really was the first smartphone to appeal to consumers. They didn't include all of the features that standard smartphones may have because they didn't want to overcomplicate it right away and have a shitty end-user experience (which is what Apple is all about, the user experience).
Flash on phones sucks I don't know why people want it so bad. It's terrible! It's almost useless.
jellotime91 2 years ago
I use to think flash on phones sucks too , because it makes the browser very slow , but now I want it because some web sites I visit uses flash content , and these videos are not on youtube . And I really don't know how forwarding option would complicate the user experience , to me I think the os3.0 should have been released a while ago .
ahmadmz3 2 years ago
Yeah forwarding was kind of a given but I really don't think many people honestly use forwarding enough to care.. I've never wanted to forward anything. I've never wanted to copy and paste either until I got 3.0 and now I try and copy and paste everything just because I can :P
Also the flash scenario isn't entirely Apple's fault.. They've been working with Adobe to try and make a solution but Adobe hasn't been able to come up with anything.
jellotime91 2 years ago
with the exception of the tech flaw with the battery, the pre is awesome. It breaks so many rules and pulls so many things together in a way never even conceived of on any device (portable or not)! And to think, you could just throw it away, buy a new one, and not loose a single bit of information! This phone has the most bomb integration of social networking and other information, organized in the most logical way. I am way sold
money12981 2 years ago
About the flash its ready , but apple didn't approve it they said that the cpu wont be able to run it the way that apple wants , but it would be great if apple gave you the chance to enable it or not .And true you don't use forwarding all the time , but when you need it you will say I wish if.... !!! .
ahmadmz3 2 years ago
I would rather wait for a good experience than use the current flash that they have on cellphones. It's fucking terrible.
And I won't be saying "I wish" now because now I have forwarding on 3.0 :P
But before 3.0 I've never EVER needed it. I find that when you forward a message it always causes a slew of extra messages asking what it was pertaining to and who it was originally from...
It's useless to me.
jellotime91 2 years ago
Did you download the iphone gm os3.0 ? , you should have waited for the final one , which will be available today .
ahmadmz3 2 years ago
I got it when it leaked a few days ago and GM IS the final one. It was just released to developers ahead of the full iTunes release.
GM isn't a "beta 6" or something. It is the exact same as the final version which will be available on iTunes today. And I could still get that one if I wanted so waiting would've accomplished nothing :P
jellotime91 2 years ago
are there any bug or some thing in the gm ? , because I heard there are some bugs which will be fixed , but I don't know if its true .
ahmadmz3 2 years ago
I haven't noticed any bugs at all, but the 3.0 released through iTunes can have bugs too. No initial firmware is without bugs. 2.0 had bugs, 1.0 had bugs, 3.0 will have bugs for SURE. But I haven't noticed any at all.
jellotime91 2 years ago
What do u mean by flash sucks? dont sound like a n00b here and say something rational...Flash is a MUST have for all smartphones. Any smartphone that doesnt supports flash websites is NOT a smart phone no matter what your steve jobs says.
zorkor 2 years ago
Wow, you're an idiot. clearly you ignore the fact that many modern smartphones still don't have flash in the browser. This is because Flash is really slow and bogs down the browser. Have you ever seen a high-end smartphone running a YouTube video from the full version of the size? The framerate is unwatchable!!
jellotime91 2 years ago
Ok, now you're really a certified idiot n00b. Take some time out and watch how smoothly the Flash videos play on smartphones from Nokia and others. Yeah your crapple gayphone doesn't even support copy and paste while even the cheapest phone has that function.
I recommend you to think before you speak and save the remaining brain cells.
zorkor 2 years ago
Very enlightening Dungeon Master Zorkor!
;]
jesussayago 2 years ago
You really think they play smoothly? There is truly something wrong with you if you think that the Nokia E71, Nokia N97, or the HTC Hero play flash "smoothly". It's so friggin slow! After seeing how even the nicest new devices play flash, no wonder Apple doesn't want anything to do with it.
jellotime91 2 years ago
You clearly are drinking too much apple kool aid. You need a timeout dude. The only reason there is no Flash supported by Apple is that Apple doesnt want to pay Adobe for it. What matters for a power user is multitasking and Flash videos. Apple has none , so EPIC Fail.!
zorkor 2 years ago
Actually. You. Are. Completely. Wrong. Phones had the same thing iphone's have now, the only thng that made apple better is that they made a faster phone.
And somehow people seem to think that "Alot of apps" make a phone better.
Grim8701 2 years ago
You honestly believe that all the touch-screen smartphones aren't copying iPhone??
I'm 100% sure that if iPhone didn't exist, this phone wouldn't exist, and I'm very happy that the iPhone was so successful because it kicked the smartphone market into competition mode, and as a result we have much better phones to choose from.
I think that that is a DIRECT result of the iPhone being made by Apple. If you like the Pre, you'd better than Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive. :)
jellotime91 2 years ago
Even though you said it's being copied by others you still haven't even said HOW other phone's copied the IPhone, so lol? Also i'm sure this phone's features are better and more advanced than the iphone, but a Apple fanboy probably does not think so.
Then again you probably thought that Voice recognition never existed before Apple put it on the Iphone too, AmIRite?
I bet you didn't know that the person who designed Palm Pre also Designed the Iphone - BUT you probably think it's a conspiracy.
Grim8701 2 years ago
Obviously I knew that the same guy who was working on the iPhone developed the Palm Pre. And he failed. Did you not hear the people complaining about the Pre's plasticy build quality, sharp edges, and tiny keyboard? :)
If you know anything I don't have to explain to you how these smartphones are copying the iPhone and have been largely influenced by the iPhone's polished user interface and outstanding build quality and form factor. It's so obvious my dead relatives could SMELL the similarities.
jellotime91 2 years ago
......If your excuse is the interface and the functions, you would be saying that Apple copied LG Prada and just added a few more Apps? Seriously? Don't you have some solid excuses to ride on? Instead of riding Apples dick?
Since this phone has a camera i asume it was "stolen" from apple?
I bet you didn't know apple was sue'd for a couple million to "copying" (if you like) for copying and clearly 100% hijacking designs - but that probably flew over your head
Grim8701 2 years ago
You seem to think that Apple's Iphone shape and exterior style was the first of it's kind, Do you live in a fucking box?
Jeez, you say something and then fail to back it within ANYTHING you say.
I asked you to tell me HOW apple are being Copied and so far the arguement has been
Me: How are people copying apple?
You: You seriously can tell me that people are not?
Me: How are people copying Apple
You: It's obvious, cant you see?
You fail at defending apple, as do most Apple defenders
Grim8701 2 years ago
iPhone was the first phone with that form factor to become popular. If iPhone never existed do you really think that form factor would be as wide-spread as it is now? NO it definitely would not. Furthermore, the selection of applications, having them all layed out on the home screen is Apple's concept for a touch user interface and it has since been copied many times! The App Store? The FIRST unified center for all applications. Consider that copied by every single smartphone platform to date!!
jellotime91 2 years ago
THAT FORM IS BASIC FOR TOUCH SCREENS, YOU FOOL, ALOT OF TOUCH PHONES HAVE HAD THAT FORM BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY MUCH NEEDED AND PREFERED BY BUYERS.
What? You mean the menu where you pick camera, games and whatever right? The selection of the applications was used on the LG Prada and MOST OTHER PHONES EVEN IF IT WAS TOUCH SCREEN OR NON-TOUCH SCREEN so lol?
The only thing that makes App store different from others is that it has "lots" of Application's that it and it doesnt mean shit either,
Grim8701 2 years ago
and im going now :> and i know i put release dates and not announcements and developement times.
Grim8701 2 years ago
Apple copied from all the major phone manufacturers and it still cant do what the other are doing for many years? Copy and Paste? MMS? Voice command? The Apple fanboys just got these features in the new 3.0 software while the rest of the world have been using them for a very long time. Now the next iPhone will have flash and then the apple fan boys will start wetting their pants saying oh iPhone is the first one with Flash. Stupid morons.
zorkor 2 years ago
Tell me somethin i don't know 0_o
Grim8701 2 years ago
Man, wake up and face the reality, sure Apple introduced these things only in new 3.0 firmware but these features are trivial when compared to all the other great things that iphone gave to the world. For example multitouch gestures, appstore the whole internet experience on mobile device, to name a few, which is why every other major company is trying to achieve. Please stop living in a world of denial.
lumzan1 2 years ago
*Sigh* MultiTouch existed long ago - the reason it isnt on many phone like an accelerometer is because it's jackshit, usefull but not that usefull, and i highly doubt you even use it that much.
Typical, App store? You guys are never *keen* on talking about a phones functionality and use are you? The Iphone doesnt even support flash.
"greats thing that Iphone gave to the world", sorry, Apple isnt god and neither is the Iphone.
Grim8701 2 years ago
Multitouch is Jackshit, you must be outta your mind, how else would you browse the web on a touchscreen without multitouch,
And then acceleromator is not useful, have you even played any good games on iphone. FYI, they all use guess what accleromator.
And dont even get me started on appstore, 65 thou apps and over 1.5 billion downloads in a year. You get the picture.
Last but not the least, no flash, big deal r we really missing anything. I mean seriously.
lumzan1 2 years ago
I dont care about App stores 65 thou' apps especcialy since the only ones worth playing are the top 10 - like i said along with many other people - An App store doesnt make a phone the functionality and things you actually use do.
But since you like to use it so much, i guess your one of those "speshul" people that find it amazing that the Iphone has a "blood pressure app"?
While im still amazed that its still stuck on a shitty camera and still cant send MMS yet :(
Grim8701 2 years ago
who the hell is going to live to use all those apps??? battery life sucks cause the only way to use the phone 2 touch it
then u cant even remove the battery if it freezes u have to send it to apple or steve jobs so he can reboot the dam thing is sucks period QWERTY key boards are the best now if apple use there heads an added that 2 the iphone then i would say the iphone is the best till then it sucks!!!!
bpm100 2 years ago
lol i browse the web just fine without multi touch
semahj 2 years ago
Internet is great i had an iphone but everything else sucks battery life it freezes and u cant remove the battery
and no flash for some night flicks they just got copy and paste 3g iphone sucks now cause theres a 3gs?? then they will make a 3gs2 and the 3gs will suck its crazy and the bill for the phone is like $120 bucks cause the plans are shytty! and then they upgrade versions like every 6 months and it does not suppot flash!!!!!
bpm100 2 years ago
Its seems someone else knows whats up.
mhwarrior 2 years ago
Yeah except that the iPhone and LG Prada were designed at the same time, and the iPhone was announced before the LG Prada was released. Furthermore, LG did TRY to sue Apple for copying their design but only because they thought they could make big money for it, and it was found that Apple did not copy their design.
That probably flew in one ear and out the other because you lack something in the middle.
jellotime91 2 years ago
What? i'm on about them ACTUALLY BEING SUED, not about LG failing to sue to them, so lol?
They were not designed at the same time, and even if you say so, touch phones with that shape were out before, and their release dates are
LG prada - UK March 22nd 2007
Iphone - June 11th US 2007
Grim8701 2 years ago
thought you were "going to bed"?
Apple designs things for many months before ever telling anyone about it. iPhone was announced at MacWorld in January 2007, knowing what we know about Apple and because of all the rumours about "iPhone" that were in everyone's head since 3 years prior, one can only assume that Apple spent a long time developing the iPhone, and judging by the quality of the respective devices I'd say the iPhone was in design stages long before the LG Prada.
jellotime91 2 years ago
Apple designs things many months before ever telling anyone about it? You really are on their dick, because so does EVERY. OTHER. FUCKING. TYPE. OF. MANUFACTURER. IN. THE. WORLD.
Grim8701 2 years ago
Obviously, but Apple designs things for a great deal longer. The iPhone was rumored since 2002, with the density of the rumors really picking up in 2004, and many of the rumors as far back as 2004 actually held true in the release of the device, what does that tell you? Apple had been designing the iPhone for YEARS before it was released.
Anyway, the iPhone was also the first to have a proximity sensor, ambient-light sensor, and an accelerometer in one device.
jellotime91 2 years ago
for a great deal longer? Yes it MIGHT (no idea) have been rumoured since 2002, but that does not mean that's when the devlopment started lmao.
Ffucking PS2 was rumoured a year after PS1 was bloody released and it never started devlopement until later the PS3 was rumoured early and started devlopement just a bit later than the PS2 did, what makes apple so special? everybody flippin does it.
I tell you what - Stop kissing Apple's ass?
Grim8701 2 years ago
iPhone was the first phone to be controlled by a large CAPACITIVE touch screen, which makes a huge difference, obviously sparked a huge trend after companies realized they can't copy the iPhone with el cheapo pressure-sensitive screens.
What I'm saying here is that Apple had a LOT to do with the state of the smartphone, it's undeniable the influence the iPhone had over all other smartphone platforms.
I LOVE the Palm Pre, but you know as well as I that without the iPhone it would not exist.
jellotime91 2 years ago
Other phones also had a prox sensor and a accelerometer IN ONE - i dont know about a ambient-light sensor tho - but having one more extra thing doesnt make Apple as great as you think it is.
I guess since all TV's are shaped the same these days that the form was copied? No...
The only thing i probably give Apple their props for, is the speed of it.
Grim8701 2 years ago
Well im going to bed now - Maybe now you might think before you post a reply
Grim8701 2 years ago
kinda late huh?..thank god the russian guy with the awful accent didnt do this review
damiaking 2 years ago
He's isn't Russian.
He does the European phones, the Pre isn't available in Europe yet.
He pwns him. His accent rules and at least he doesn't stop mid sentence like this guy does sometimes.
Myr0n 2 years ago 9
Yeah true!!
I think they need someone who is a really good public speaker. It's more difficult than you would think. I think I'm pretty good at it, but I live in Canada hence the Pre not yet available :P
jellotime91 2 years ago
yeah that's true...I prefer the guy with the wierd accent...this guy pauses too much....he's like a character from south park.
But for the european guy, atleast he doesn't pause. Those hatin' on the euro guy are basically major deuchebags
PoetryRocksAlot 2 years ago
First!!! :P
youtubyoutub007 2 years ago