@TarroYoko Watch the the episodes (Yes, it's is split up into two epsodes) You won't regret these epic episodes and you'll get the psychology behind it. :)
@TarroYoko In the book 1984 thought is a crime and the main character winston smith is taken by the government and is forced to undergo brutal torture in order for him to follow the system. One thing they do to him is tell him that reality is what they make it to be. They hold up four fingers and say that it is five, he says its four and that he can't refuse what he sees, they torture him every time he says four instead of five.
@TheEvildoomsday He's an award winning Shakespearean actor, played Captain Picard from Star Trek The Next Generation, has a couple of internet memes under him, and was knighted by the queen of England, and... yes he's from "da" movies.
I'm clearly not illiterate as you gave no context to your sentence.
No, I didn't know of the book or movie until a few days ago. I would have self-corrected after watching the movie, but I couldn't be bothered to give enough of a shit about being misinterpreted on a site full of pretentious cunts like you.
Check your ego next time, before you reply, because no one cares how smart you think you are.
@manictiger Your intelligence is shining through your marvellous command of words like 'cunt' and 'shit.' News flash: I don't care how smart you think I am. Actually, I don't care what a faceless person on the internet thinks. Follow your own advice: Please be courteous. Perhaps if you did, I would not have responded as rudely.
@manictiger Easy to throw insults around, isn't it? Especially when they are cliches. My response was a response to your rude reply. Here's my courteous reply: have a nice day.
@FoxxNightingale Clearly you cannot read. I am simply responding to the previous post. Where the hell do you get sex from my response? Get your mind out of the gutter. Says more about you, bro
@AlexanderMccarthey87 Yes i was going to write 1960's i just misspelled. I noticed that after i wrote the comment, but i didn't want to rewrite it. But there is one section of your comment that is completely wrong. It was super popular when it first aired. People all over the world watched it, and they earned shit-loads of money.
so....at the end he tell Troy that given the choice between torture and a life of comfort he believed he could see five lights. Now does this mean that Picard is weak minded and therefore vulnerable to the Jedi mind trick?
@xaxk007 Obviously the Enterprise contains oxygen. It could burn, depending on the severity of the "leak" and the amount of fire consuming the oxygen. Probably wouldn't last long though.
@Decklocation If you are referring to the burning in rocket engines, it works because liquid hydrogen (fuel) and oxigen are mixed and then burned, thus the burning can occur. Otherwise it's impossible in vacum. If the fuel is such that it does not need external resources (like burning a match requires air) then yes, I guess it's possible.
He just... he just wouldn't say "die." He wouldn't break. I thought was strange about this one... all that creature cared about was hearing, "There are five lights." Why? I believe Gul simply wanted Picard to be confused as to what's what. His whole world must have been topsy-turvy. There's something to be said that even though he was about to give... he is human, after all, look at his options. He just... didn't.
I believe that after it's all over... he has everyone's respect.
@koolkidde Picard is captured, tortured. The alien guy who was there at the start psychologically tortured him, telling him there were five lights instead of four for weeks on end. Picard didn't let him break his mind, and shouted that once his government knew he was being tortured in defiance. Damn fine episode.
@koolkidde This bald guy is the captain of the star-ship. He was captured. These bad guys are torturing him for info. They keep asking him how many lights there are (there are 3 by the way). He keeps saying there are 3 and telling the truth. This is the point where he breaks and tells them what they want to hear and will eventually tell them the info. Irl it references the us's actions in water-boarding. No need to fear, he is conveiniently rescued by his ship next episode.
@sam9165 Not at all. There ARE four lights. They wanted him to say that there are five, he never did. And it is not a reference to US water-boarding (this was made around 1992, not 2002) but to the "2+2=5" slogan in Orwells novel "1984."
@koolkidde Well lets see here how shall I explain this. Your a douche. Yup! pretty much explains most of your life failings to I'm sure. Make enough sense for you?
@koolkidde Lol sorry i hurt your feelings friend I apologize. Guess jokes don't translate well on youtube. This is the internet though so please report away lol.
@criminyjimjims or i could get voted into the top comment and have my inbox filled with nerds eager to explain this to me so I dont have to watch some dumb 45 minute show to understand 10 seconds of content.
Your only here to feel socially acceptable to your ''Internet Buddies'' because no ine on real life wants to talk to you.
That's why they never invite you to go out with them some im afraid these ''nerds'' you are talking about have better things to do then look cool on the internet.
@KarstenOkk Picard went in to destroy a Cardassian weapon with Dr Crusher and Worf, and Picard was captured. There are four lights, but Picard's torturer is trying to break his spirit by making him say there are five. You should really see the episode, it's one of Stewart's best.
@KarstenOkk I have no idea what the "facepalm" picture is. That actor you're referring to is Patrick Stewart. He played the character Jean Luc Picard on the show 'Star Trek: The Next Generation.' Other notable roles include Charles Xavier in the X-Men movies and some voice work on the show 'American Dad'.
In 2010 he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace and currently is enrolled in England's Royal Shakespeare Company. The man is one of the greatest living actors.
It is all an elaborate trap to fool people like yourself into asking for our assistance thereby turning control of the world over to we, the nerds, who will guide you into an age of light, reason and love....
He's a POW. They're attempting to break his will. He answers "there are four lights" in defiance, because they showed him 5 and inflicted pain when ever he didn't answer 5.
This is why he looks so broken in this scene, but he still answers, "there are four lights", because, well, he's Captain Picard of the U.S.S. Enterprise!
Also, it's a meta-meme and also part of an awesome YouTube song.
@manictiger There were only four lights. They'd given him a drug that should have rendered him unable to lie, but suspected he was strong enough to resist it. The idea was that they would show him four lights and say there was five, if he responded there were five he would be lying (and thus was lying about not knowing the Federation's battle plans). As time passes though it becomes apparent he really doesn't know and the torture becomes about breaking Picard to see if they could.
Does no one else find it odd that almost every being from other solar systems have appendages and general body construction of humans? I mean, I'm not a huge Star Trek fan (I like it though) and I'm sure this can be explained away somehow, but I just find it funny how many 'aliens' have 5 fingers on each of two hands (e.g.).
@WilliamRayWalters : Yes, you know Trek fans, they do notice. Of course actors need to move. But there was an episode that explained this when Picard goes on an ecological dig. Basically, we wrer all seeded long ago by a common race.
@free322001 I saw that episode the other day (love Netflix). There were several races trying to get the same information, solve the intergalactic puzzle set up by the original race. It was a good episode.
This was done in 1992. I guess the future members of the Bush administration did not pay attention and listen to Picard say :
"Torture has never been a reliable means of extracting information. It is ultimately self-defeating as a means of control. One wonders it is still practiced."
@quesondriac torture, which I don't believe waterboarding is, is used with other techniques of interrogation and found to be quite effective. You don,t just ask for the location of the bomb and take the guys word for it. You might ask questions u kno the answer to, contradict him with another persons testimony or a variety of other tactics. Whether or not you're against it, at least be honest and informed.
@jbzdyk Experts will disagree with you. Strange how our recent wars were waged by non veterans. Who said they would interpret the Geneva Convention as they saw fit. Hmmm. Hmmm.
@quesondriac There are many experts, on both sides too. There is however information we gained from KSM,(the AQ ringleader at the time) that saved lives. I'm also pretty sure there were many veterans involved in decisions. By your argument the president can't prosecute a war if he's not a veteran. We led the Geneva Convention and it is always subject to interpretation. War is not simple and pretty.
@jbzdyk Could you provide a link about KSM please? I myself think that any commander in chief should be a veteran. Kind of a Robert Heinlein Starship Troopers thing. As to interpreting the Geneva Convention, I think that lawyers should be exempt. Especially Bush lawyers.
@jbzdyk Torture used to be used to get people to confess to being witches or werewolves, which many people did. Do you think that was "effective" too? Torture is not proven to be accurate, the only thing it does is get them to tell you ANYTHING that will get you to stop torturing them.
And if waterboarding isn't torture then I'd like to know what it is. And don't say "enhanced interrogation technique" since that's just the conservative's version of PC, the PC word for torture.
@WerewolfOfTheWater Torturing people to get them to confess to a crime u already sure they are guilty of is much different then getting information out of them.The werewolves and witches argument is really stupid at this age. Of course there will be abuse when used without caution and reason. The reason I don't consider waterboarding and other "enhanced techniques" as torture is become they don't leave u with permanent damage. Yes they are cruel, but would u rather have a finger cut off.
@jbzdyk If you're already sure they're guilty of it, then use the evidence you have that makes you "sure." Torturing them to get them to tell you what you want to hear doesn't prove anything except that you wanted them to tell you something, and you tortured them until they said it. It doesn't mean it's actually TRUE.
And no it's not stupid, if people confessed to being witches and werewolves from being tortured, then what makes you think they won't confess different false things nowadays?
@WerewolfOfTheWater : Torture is a tool of war, no worse than war. Like any tool its effectiveness depends on the user. No tool always works. Not all tool users are all skilled. torture has been used since the beginning becuse it does often work, not beucase it always works. Much info gotten CAN be verified- unlike being a witch in your example which is not verifiable.
@jbzdyk Also, that did not answer my question. And waterboarding actually CAN leave permanent damage, besides, that's not how torture is defined anyway. Just because it doesn't always leave permanent damage doesn't mean it's not torture.
I shalt state that there are four lights, no more, no less. Four shall be the number I shalt count, and the number of lights shall be four. Five shalt I not count, neither state there are three, excepting that I am counting to four.
I grew up on Star Trek (TOS and TNG) and always regarded it as that cheesy sci-fi show from my childhood. Then, I saw rerun episodes of it just last year, and saw this for the first time. Dang. This is some heavy stuff. Never before did I realize how awesome 'Trek was (and is).
This was a great two part episode, my only complaint is WHY did they have to make up the Cardassians??? Why could this not have been done with the ROMULANS?? They were an established, credible adversary. I loved how in season 4 they just magically invented the Cardassians and there was this war that had been fought but never spoken of prior to this episode(The Wounded). I wish the writers they got would watch the show they are writing for.
@LtRacjack12 Well I watched it, I actually made a research about 2+2=5. It mostly refers, if real, to geometry where things get this way, like hyperbolic geometry where one line can have more than one parallel. But to my opinion it's related to the occult and satanic, it has to do with number 13 and so on. But 2+2=4, normally.
@ALEXtillionx Captain Picard, a main character of the series, had been held captive and tortured; the first alien guy trying to break Picard's will by, among other things, forcing him to question his understanding of reality through showing him four lights and then punishing him when the question "how many lights are there?" was answered with anything but "three". This is his final repeat of defiance in the face of that pressure. Good episode.
One of the best episodes not only in TNG, but of the whole Star Trek franchise itself. Patrick Stewart is one damn fine actor. I like Shatner, but let's be honest. Who's really the Oscar worthy actor? Shatner or Stewart?
This was the scene, and the episode, that made me respect Captain Picard. I'm a major TOS fan, so TNG isn't really my piece of cake, but Chain of Command made Picard equal Kirk in badassdom in my eye.
@HungarianKnight : True. Patrick Stewart is a British Shakespearean HEAVY. He is da bomb. SEE also his fight with brother Emo, you can find it here on tube. TOP shelf acting. SEE it.
@MrDromaeosaur Do you really think no torturer ever did this? For example, during the Spanish inquisition, one would be tortured until one swore fealty, admitted guilt etc. even though the person who was being tortured did not believe what they were admitting. 1984 and this episode both were inspired by real-life human cruelty.
@EclipseMoonXIV Incorrect. Remember that matter has 4 states, one of which is plasma. Plasma can and does and currently IS burning in space, literally all over the visible galaxy - and i cannot stress the 'visible' point enough, since that burning plasma in space most commonly takes the form of STARS, by which we have day here on Earth, by which we can see things clearly. The Enterprise has an EPS system for routing power through the ship - Electromagnetic Plasma System.
Wait a second... is Captain Picard being held hostage by Remus Lupin?? HE IS!!
therobbieevans 1 day ago
@therobbieevans Afraid not. Madred is played by David Warner, who did not play Lupin (David Thewlis).
Ghostwind1 15 hours ago
there are 5 lights
0neforthemoney 1 day ago
Question, So whats the point of the 4 lights business i am confused...
TarroYoko 5 days ago
@TarroYoko Watch the the episodes (Yes, it's is split up into two epsodes) You won't regret these epic episodes and you'll get the psychology behind it. :)
flobogirl6 4 days ago in playlist Star Trek
@flobogirl6 It's called "Chain of Command pts. 1 and 2" :)
flobogirl6 4 days ago in playlist Star Trek
@TarroYoko In the book 1984 thought is a crime and the main character winston smith is taken by the government and is forced to undergo brutal torture in order for him to follow the system. One thing they do to him is tell him that reality is what they make it to be. They hold up four fingers and say that it is five, he says its four and that he can't refuse what he sees, they torture him every time he says four instead of five.
basically its a phrase of rebellion.
badarbiter 23 hours ago
what
the actual fuck
LaytonGB 6 days ago
Where is he?
Tsteve08 1 week ago
is this the guy from da movie????
TheEvildoomsday 2 weeks ago
@TheEvildoomsday He's an award winning Shakespearean actor, played Captain Picard from Star Trek The Next Generation, has a couple of internet memes under him, and was knighted by the queen of England, and... yes he's from "da" movies.
TheOmegamega1 2 weeks ago 6
Hey, it's the voice of Jon Irenicus!
FreshestOfVegetables 2 weeks ago
CAPTAIN SPARKLES!!!!!!!
Grimm1337 2 weeks ago
Kim Cardassian. :D
Chohsan 2 weeks ago
What light?
dutymaster1 3 weeks ago
Fire in space? WHAT
GeicoCaveman57 3 weeks ago
Yogscast request hour!!
rrustyshotgunn 3 weeks ago
The whole lights thing was stolen from "1984. " Was any credit given?
WyllowMorrigan 3 weeks ago
@WyllowMorrigan
They stole it from a year?
You should mention the show, book, etc Star Trek borrowed it from.
You might as well said, "The whole lights thing was stolen from one of the countries on Earth".
manictiger 3 weeks ago
@manictiger You illiterate dunce. Have you not hear of the book, 1984? Go read it.
WyllowMorrigan 2 weeks ago
@WyllowMorrigan
I'm clearly not illiterate as you gave no context to your sentence.
No, I didn't know of the book or movie until a few days ago. I would have self-corrected after watching the movie, but I couldn't be bothered to give enough of a shit about being misinterpreted on a site full of pretentious cunts like you.
Check your ego next time, before you reply, because no one cares how smart you think you are.
manictiger 2 weeks ago
@manictiger Your intelligence is shining through your marvellous command of words like 'cunt' and 'shit.' News flash: I don't care how smart you think I am. Actually, I don't care what a faceless person on the internet thinks. Follow your own advice: Please be courteous. Perhaps if you did, I would not have responded as rudely.
WyllowMorrigan 2 weeks ago
@WyllowMorrigan
You want me to be "courteous"?
You're FIRST reply was "You illiterate dunce".
Here's me being courteous to you.
SUCK
MY
DICK.
Can't handle the heat, don't jump into the frying pan.
manictiger 1 week ago
@manictiger Easy to throw insults around, isn't it? Especially when they are cliches. My response was a response to your rude reply. Here's my courteous reply: have a nice day.
How hard was that?
WyllowMorrigan 1 week ago
@WyllowMorrigan
YOU started IN on ME! That gives me every right to retaliate AS MUCH as I want!
Now close your account and think about what you've done.
manictiger 1 week ago
@WyllowMorrigan
While we're on the topic of intelligence, look up the word esoteric.
manictiger 2 weeks ago
@manictiger I know what the word means. I wonder whether you do.
WyllowMorrigan 2 weeks ago
@WyllowMorrigan
Nice come back. "I know you are but what am I?"
Anyway, hope you have a great day. May you learn modesty and self-control. God knows we don't need another person who thinks they are a genius.
manictiger 1 week ago
God, are you still trying to argue with me? Move ON!
WyllowMorrigan 1 week ago
@WyllowMorrigan What the hell is wrong with you? does it sexually please you to sit alone mocking a person over quite literally nothing?
Go outside and make some friends.
FoxxNightingale 1 week ago
@FoxxNightingale Clearly you cannot read. I am simply responding to the previous post. Where the hell do you get sex from my response? Get your mind out of the gutter. Says more about you, bro
WyllowMorrigan 1 week ago
@WyllowMorrigan There's a difference between responding to a person and being a shallow arsehole.
and i didn't refer to you as any gender... and you're falsely mocking others on their reading abilities...
That's quite strongly sounding like autism.
FoxxNightingale 6 days ago
@WyllowMorrigan star trek always steals from the good stuff
AlexanderMccarthey87 3 weeks ago
@AlexanderMccarthey87 Star Trek is the good stuff. It's been around since the 1980s and
the shows are fantastic.
OpenlySupportingGays 3 weeks ago
@OpenlySupportingGays 1980s that's laughable. The show first aired on 1966. It didn't reach massive popularity until the next generation though.
AlexanderMccarthey87 3 weeks ago
@AlexanderMccarthey87 Yes i was going to write 1960's i just misspelled. I noticed that after i wrote the comment, but i didn't want to rewrite it. But there is one section of your comment that is completely wrong. It was super popular when it first aired. People all over the world watched it, and they earned shit-loads of money.
OpenlySupportingGays 3 weeks ago
so....at the end he tell Troy that given the choice between torture and a life of comfort he believed he could see five lights. Now does this mean that Picard is weak minded and therefore vulnerable to the Jedi mind trick?
TheSithFan 3 weeks ago
@xaxkoo7 well there was probly oxogen leaking from the ship or it was burning from the inside :P
Duncan12457 3 weeks ago
Old cenile man
DevouringPlauge 3 weeks ago
3:19 is what you're freaking waiting for. =.=
AQWorldsOthman25 3 weeks ago 7
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I am Dave! Yognaurt and I have the balls.
kennyozakie 3 weeks ago
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I AM DAVE YOGNAUGHT! AND I HAVE THE BALLS!
manlyman19456 4 weeks ago 64
@manlyman19456 u missed out a "!"
KeezIfUPl33z 3 weeks ago
Captain Sparkly-pants mentioned this!
EmilNiklasPersson 4 weeks ago 11
haha
Snyphen356 4 weeks ago
I AM DAVE! YOGNAUGHT AND I HAVE THE BALLS!
zard71 4 weeks ago 12
@zard71 and i'm dave! yognaut :3
SlimeyBastardVG2 4 weeks ago
How can something burn in space? There is no oxigen to feed the burning process.
xaxk007 4 weeks ago
@xaxk007 Obviously the Enterprise contains oxygen. It could burn, depending on the severity of the "leak" and the amount of fire consuming the oxygen. Probably wouldn't last long though.
Mynameisnotooo 4 weeks ago
@xaxk007 As long as there is fuel, it will still burn. Even in space.
At least that is what my mate read on this one science-y website.
Decklocation 4 weeks ago
@Decklocation If you are referring to the burning in rocket engines, it works because liquid hydrogen (fuel) and oxigen are mixed and then burned, thus the burning can occur. Otherwise it's impossible in vacum. If the fuel is such that it does not need external resources (like burning a match requires air) then yes, I guess it's possible.
xaxk007 3 weeks ago
yogscast. ;)
DDarkusTriforce 4 weeks ago
from the yogscast
SuperGamestorm 4 weeks ago
just skip to 3:20 if you want to hear him say it -.-"
anejad3000 4 weeks ago 5
Why dont you learn to watch the episode fully and appreciate it Little boy
sgammer69 3 weeks ago
I came here from the Yogscast!
TheJohlin 4 weeks ago 540
@TheJohlin same and you also have 30 thumbs up in 1/2 hour
wwetna247eddymad 4 weeks ago
@wwetna247eddymad Cooool! :)
TheJohlin 4 weeks ago
@TheJohlin I am Dave! Yognaurt and I have the balls.
waitemat88 4 weeks ago
@TheJohlin woah dude 300 thumbs up wow
wwetna247eddymad 4 weeks ago
@TheJohlin same here :)
dregufeil 3 weeks ago
@TheJohlin same here
darkhunter003 3 weeks ago
picard= most bad ass star trek captain
camoblackhawk 1 month ago
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He just... he just wouldn't say "die." He wouldn't break. I thought was strange about this one... all that creature cared about was hearing, "There are five lights." Why? I believe Gul simply wanted Picard to be confused as to what's what. His whole world must have been topsy-turvy. There's something to be said that even though he was about to give... he is human, after all, look at his options. He just... didn't.
I believe that after it's all over... he has everyone's respect.
DaneYoussef 1 month ago
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DaneYoussef 1 month ago
Help one of you nerds give me some background on this because I have no idea what's going on
koolkidde 1 month ago 88
@koolkidde Picard is captured, tortured. The alien guy who was there at the start psychologically tortured him, telling him there were five lights instead of four for weeks on end. Picard didn't let him break his mind, and shouted that once his government knew he was being tortured in defiance. Damn fine episode.
Virmirian 4 weeks ago 7
@Virmirian was this like a take off of 1984?
(2+2=5)
OcelotPwns 4 weeks ago
@koolkidde He's smoking weed
DookieDubstep 4 weeks ago
@DookieDubstep Out of the 20 responses I received, this makes the most sense. I thank you kind sir for your internet generosity.
koolkidde 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde This bald guy is the captain of the star-ship. He was captured. These bad guys are torturing him for info. They keep asking him how many lights there are (there are 3 by the way). He keeps saying there are 3 and telling the truth. This is the point where he breaks and tells them what they want to hear and will eventually tell them the info. Irl it references the us's actions in water-boarding. No need to fear, he is conveiniently rescued by his ship next episode.
sam9165 4 weeks ago 8
@sam9165 Not at all. There ARE four lights. They wanted him to say that there are five, he never did. And it is not a reference to US water-boarding (this was made around 1992, not 2002) but to the "2+2=5" slogan in Orwells novel "1984."
hajba 3 weeks ago 3
@koolkidde Well lets see here how shall I explain this. Your a douche. Yup! pretty much explains most of your life failings to I'm sure. Make enough sense for you?
Mercino311 4 weeks ago
@Mercino311 wow rude. reported buddy.
koolkidde 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde Lol sorry i hurt your feelings friend I apologize. Guess jokes don't translate well on youtube. This is the internet though so please report away lol.
Mercino311 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde Just go watch the episode on Netflix.
criminyjimjims 4 weeks ago
@criminyjimjims I'm a proud nerd!
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@criminyjimjims or i could get voted into the top comment and have my inbox filled with nerds eager to explain this to me so I dont have to watch some dumb 45 minute show to understand 10 seconds of content.
koolkidde 3 weeks ago
Your only here to feel socially acceptable to your ''Internet Buddies'' because no ine on real life wants to talk to you.
That's why they never invite you to go out with them some im afraid these ''nerds'' you are talking about have better things to do then look cool on the internet.
sgammer69 3 weeks ago
@sgammer69 who are you talking to?
embarassingusername 2 weeks ago
@koolkidde You've never seen TNG? Ugh....
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@CenkIsAdorable Just.. Tell us what the hell is going on.
KarstenOkk 3 weeks ago
@KarstenOkk Picard went in to destroy a Cardassian weapon with Dr Crusher and Worf, and Picard was captured. There are four lights, but Picard's torturer is trying to break his spirit by making him say there are five. You should really see the episode, it's one of Stewart's best.
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@CenkIsAdorable Is this the guy from the facepalm picture?
KarstenOkk 3 weeks ago 2
@KarstenOkk I have no idea what the "facepalm" picture is. That actor you're referring to is Patrick Stewart. He played the character Jean Luc Picard on the show 'Star Trek: The Next Generation.' Other notable roles include Charles Xavier in the X-Men movies and some voice work on the show 'American Dad'.
In 2010 he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace and currently is enrolled in England's Royal Shakespeare Company. The man is one of the greatest living actors.
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@CenkIsAdorable Search it up on Google, I think you'll already find it when you just Google "Facepalm".
KarstenOkk 3 weeks ago
@KarstenOkk Yes, I guess it is the guy from the "facepalm" picture....whatever that is.........
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
Lol retard
sgammer69 3 weeks ago
@sgammer69 lol no
KarstenOkk 2 weeks ago
@KarstenOkk Don't worry about it Cenkis... Yes Karsten it's the guy from the faceplam picture. *facepalm*
Stiggandr1 3 weeks ago
@Stiggandr1 Kids today are so culturally ignorant....
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@CenkIsAdorable lol like i watch star trek
koolkidde 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde Haha I'm sry of course you don't watch star trek, you're probably too busy watching the Jersey Shore.
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@CenkIsAdorable Wow, rude. Reported.
koolkidde 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde Lol You're hilarious. Stupid, but hilarious.
CenkIsAdorable 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde lol, thinking reports do anything.
ESPECIALLY for just being a dick in the comments
VoidSword82 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde Captain Picard was captured by the Borg and they were torturing him so he would tell them classified information about the federation.
wileib1 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde
It is all an elaborate trap to fool people like yourself into asking for our assistance thereby turning control of the world over to we, the nerds, who will guide you into an age of light, reason and love....
Also Star Trek.
DCdabest 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde
lrn2 google. thats what i did .
LordMoebius 3 weeks ago
@koolkidde
He's a POW. They're attempting to break his will. He answers "there are four lights" in defiance, because they showed him 5 and inflicted pain when ever he didn't answer 5.
This is why he looks so broken in this scene, but he still answers, "there are four lights", because, well, he's Captain Picard of the U.S.S. Enterprise!
Also, it's a meta-meme and also part of an awesome YouTube song.
manictiger 3 weeks ago
@manictiger There were only four lights. They'd given him a drug that should have rendered him unable to lie, but suspected he was strong enough to resist it. The idea was that they would show him four lights and say there was five, if he responded there were five he would be lying (and thus was lying about not knowing the Federation's battle plans). As time passes though it becomes apparent he really doesn't know and the torture becomes about breaking Picard to see if they could.
LordSothe 3 weeks ago
@LordSothe
Ah, well, Idk, I haven't followed it, just the meme.
I'm actually downloading season 6 right now.
manictiger 3 weeks ago
The two top comments also deserve awards in my opinion. Damn good episode though.
CheatMasta 1 month ago
Star Trek in the 60's Free Love, Adventure, and Exotic Lands.
Star Trek in the 80's Hard Truths, Diplomacy, and Tough Decisions.
shuiyuki 1 month ago 8
Jon Irenicus!
Parkerkun 1 month ago
@Parkerkun Someone's a Baldur's Gate 2 fan. I was worried that he was gonna throw his Tron frisbee at him
radicalvashspiegal 1 month ago
Both Patrick Steward and David Warner are superb in this episode. One of the best TNG episodes ever.
ElizabethR1558 2 months ago
Does no one else find it odd that almost every being from other solar systems have appendages and general body construction of humans? I mean, I'm not a huge Star Trek fan (I like it though) and I'm sure this can be explained away somehow, but I just find it funny how many 'aliens' have 5 fingers on each of two hands (e.g.).
WilliamRayWalters 2 months ago
@WilliamRayWalters yeah and they've given us an explanation for that in one of the episodes...
MaxArceus 2 months ago
@WilliamRayWalters : Yes, you know Trek fans, they do notice. Of course actors need to move. But there was an episode that explained this when Picard goes on an ecological dig. Basically, we wrer all seeded long ago by a common race.
free322001 1 month ago
@free322001 I saw that episode the other day (love Netflix). There were several races trying to get the same information, solve the intergalactic puzzle set up by the original race. It was a good episode.
WilliamRayWalters 1 month ago
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You will suffer. You will all... suffer.
IsThatSolyaris 2 months ago
*There* *are* *four* *fucking* *lights*.
stefichjo 2 months ago
26 dislikes? - I was just about to call them Cardassians, but I see somebody beat me to it. Patrick Steward rocks my world.
jolenealaska 2 months ago
There seem to be 26 Cardies in here.
atatassault 2 months ago
This was done in 1992. I guess the future members of the Bush administration did not pay attention and listen to Picard say :
"Torture has never been a reliable means of extracting information. It is ultimately self-defeating as a means of control. One wonders it is still practiced."
quesondriac 2 months ago 5
@quesondriac torture, which I don't believe waterboarding is, is used with other techniques of interrogation and found to be quite effective. You don,t just ask for the location of the bomb and take the guys word for it. You might ask questions u kno the answer to, contradict him with another persons testimony or a variety of other tactics. Whether or not you're against it, at least be honest and informed.
jbzdyk 2 months ago
@jbzdyk Experts will disagree with you. Strange how our recent wars were waged by non veterans. Who said they would interpret the Geneva Convention as they saw fit. Hmmm. Hmmm.
quesondriac 2 months ago
@quesondriac There are many experts, on both sides too. There is however information we gained from KSM,(the AQ ringleader at the time) that saved lives. I'm also pretty sure there were many veterans involved in decisions. By your argument the president can't prosecute a war if he's not a veteran. We led the Geneva Convention and it is always subject to interpretation. War is not simple and pretty.
jbzdyk 2 months ago
@jbzdyk Could you provide a link about KSM please? I myself think that any commander in chief should be a veteran. Kind of a Robert Heinlein Starship Troopers thing. As to interpreting the Geneva Convention, I think that lawyers should be exempt. Especially Bush lawyers.
quesondriac 2 months ago
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WerewolfOfTheWater 2 months ago
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WerewolfOfTheWater 2 months ago
@jbzdyk Torture used to be used to get people to confess to being witches or werewolves, which many people did. Do you think that was "effective" too? Torture is not proven to be accurate, the only thing it does is get them to tell you ANYTHING that will get you to stop torturing them.
And if waterboarding isn't torture then I'd like to know what it is. And don't say "enhanced interrogation technique" since that's just the conservative's version of PC, the PC word for torture.
WerewolfOfTheWater 2 months ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater Torturing people to get them to confess to a crime u already sure they are guilty of is much different then getting information out of them.The werewolves and witches argument is really stupid at this age. Of course there will be abuse when used without caution and reason. The reason I don't consider waterboarding and other "enhanced techniques" as torture is become they don't leave u with permanent damage. Yes they are cruel, but would u rather have a finger cut off.
jbzdyk 2 months ago
@jbzdyk If you're already sure they're guilty of it, then use the evidence you have that makes you "sure." Torturing them to get them to tell you what you want to hear doesn't prove anything except that you wanted them to tell you something, and you tortured them until they said it. It doesn't mean it's actually TRUE.
And no it's not stupid, if people confessed to being witches and werewolves from being tortured, then what makes you think they won't confess different false things nowadays?
WerewolfOfTheWater 2 months ago
@WerewolfOfTheWater : Torture is a tool of war, no worse than war. Like any tool its effectiveness depends on the user. No tool always works. Not all tool users are all skilled. torture has been used since the beginning becuse it does often work, not beucase it always works. Much info gotten CAN be verified- unlike being a witch in your example which is not verifiable.
free322001 1 month ago
@jbzdyk Also, that did not answer my question. And waterboarding actually CAN leave permanent damage, besides, that's not how torture is defined anyway. Just because it doesn't always leave permanent damage doesn't mean it's not torture.
WerewolfOfTheWater 2 months ago
I shalt state that there are four lights, no more, no less. Four shall be the number I shalt count, and the number of lights shall be four. Five shalt I not count, neither state there are three, excepting that I am counting to four.
SIX IS RIGHT OUT!
RRVCrinale 2 months ago 8
is that alien ra's al guhl from the batman cartoon? sounds just like him....
insanemethod1 2 months ago
@insanemethod1 Yes, and Many other voice-overs. IMDB him. David Warner.
CainJaph 2 months ago
@insanemethod1 yes.
woollybully100 1 month ago
3:18 There... Are... Four... Lights!
Nazka231 2 months ago
Man, those Cardasian Eye exams are intense!
TheSubwaysurfer 2 months ago 5
I grew up on Star Trek (TOS and TNG) and always regarded it as that cheesy sci-fi show from my childhood. Then, I saw rerun episodes of it just last year, and saw this for the first time. Dang. This is some heavy stuff. Never before did I realize how awesome 'Trek was (and is).
Oh yeah, and that Cardassian is a total dick.
magmoor88 2 months ago
This episode should be performed on stage.
Rumpio 2 months ago
Ah. The Child of Bhaal has awoken. It is time for more.... experiments.
Atropys 2 months ago 5
SDooooo lame and lie gay very gay movie.
SomeUser9753 2 months ago
@SomeUser9753 Not a movie.
shagoosty 2 months ago
Two absolutely fantastic actors in one amazing scene. Good times.
iamtheshim 2 months ago
Are you sure? I only see three.
Klingsvideos 2 months ago
If that dude didnt show up he would have said 10 lights if he had too.
marquiskrystal 2 months ago
I swear, the TNG writers must have had it in for mental anguish with Picard!
PetrosofSparta 3 months ago
For a moment I keep thinking he's going to say "THERE ARE!... FOUR LIGHTS!..... B**CH!" lols
xbeeman1991 3 months ago
funny, i havent seen this episode maybe 5 years, and was always seening ROMULANS in the episode, funny my minds has tricked me:)
Pribinace 3 months ago
This was a great two part episode, my only complaint is WHY did they have to make up the Cardassians??? Why could this not have been done with the ROMULANS?? They were an established, credible adversary. I loved how in season 4 they just magically invented the Cardassians and there was this war that had been fought but never spoken of prior to this episode(The Wounded). I wish the writers they got would watch the show they are writing for.
LtRacjack12 3 months ago
@LtRacjack12 Where can I find the full episode, that's illuminati shit, played by the green losers.
SomeUser9753 2 months ago
@SomeUser9753 try netflix, if not a member BBC America will show it
LtRacjack12 2 months ago
@LtRacjack12 Well I watched it, I actually made a research about 2+2=5. It mostly refers, if real, to geometry where things get this way, like hyperbolic geometry where one line can have more than one parallel. But to my opinion it's related to the occult and satanic, it has to do with number 13 and so on. But 2+2=4, normally.
SomeUser9753 2 months ago
@LtRacjack12 He's tortured by satan, using is animalistic side.
SomeUser9753 2 months ago
jon irenicus....
MrRyandietrich 3 months ago 4
@ALEXtillionx Captain Picard, a main character of the series, had been held captive and tortured; the first alien guy trying to break Picard's will by, among other things, forcing him to question his understanding of reality through showing him four lights and then punishing him when the question "how many lights are there?" was answered with anything but "three". This is his final repeat of defiance in the face of that pressure. Good episode.
riverwindbonsai 3 months ago
I don't get it? what about the lights? i've never seen star trek.
ALEXtilionx 3 months ago
@ALEXtilionx Haven't you read 1984?
crazy4sian 3 months ago
@crazy4sian you mean that dystopian society thingy? i have not read it but i heard about it.
ALEXtilionx 3 months ago
@ALEXtilionx Then you will probably not understand the weight behind Picard's actions.
crazy4sian 3 months ago
Just watched this episode. Great scene.
Blamepandora85 3 months ago
How can an actor act so wasted?
germanvisitor2 3 months ago
@mikanojo +1 internets for you, very impressive stuff. ^_^
StarTrek0871 3 months ago
One of the best episodes not only in TNG, but of the whole Star Trek franchise itself. Patrick Stewart is one damn fine actor. I like Shatner, but let's be honest. Who's really the Oscar worthy actor? Shatner or Stewart?
CenkIsAdorable 3 months ago 54
@CenkIsAdorable Stewart. No ifs ands or buts about it.
quesondriac 2 months ago
@CenkIsAdorable : Love Shatner in Trek. But Stewart is DA BOMB as actor.
free322001 1 month ago
@free322001 Stewart deserves a fucking Oscar now.
CenkIsAdorable 1 month ago 3
This was the scene, and the episode, that made me respect Captain Picard. I'm a major TOS fan, so TNG isn't really my piece of cake, but Chain of Command made Picard equal Kirk in badassdom in my eye.
HungarianKnight 3 months ago 25
@HungarianKnight Kirk? Are you serious? oO
germanvisitor2 3 months ago
@germanvisitor2
Well, maybe not so badass as Kirk, but Picard has his moments too...
HungarianKnight 3 months ago
@HungarianKnight : True. Patrick Stewart is a British Shakespearean HEAVY. He is da bomb. SEE also his fight with brother Emo, you can find it here on tube. TOP shelf acting. SEE it.
free322001 1 month ago 4
3:19 Four lights, not three, not five, four.
bigred808835 3 months ago
@bigred808835 Four being the number of lights thou shalt count.
kappapi560 3 months ago 3
Even after defeat, the Cardassian interogator wanted the satisfaction of knowing that he had broken Picard. Picard refused!
bndkllr2 3 months ago
26 people saw 5 lights ;)
luvingitmusic123 3 months ago
@MrDromaeosaur or an adaptation, not necessarily plagiarized
nickkid218 3 months ago
This scene is "plagiarized" from the book (and the movie) 1984.
MrDromaeosaur 3 months ago
@MrDromaeosaur may be "homaged" it's the word you were looking for.
TeslaBEM 3 months ago
@MrDromaeosaur Do you really think no torturer ever did this? For example, during the Spanish inquisition, one would be tortured until one swore fealty, admitted guilt etc. even though the person who was being tortured did not believe what they were admitting. 1984 and this episode both were inspired by real-life human cruelty.
SweetZombiJesus 3 months ago 2
Well, he's OBVIOUSLY lying. I mean, at :50, he says "The enterprise is burning in space."
DERP, NO FIRE IN SPACE. STORY OBVIOUSLY FALSE.
EclipseMoonXIV 4 months ago
@EclipseMoonXIV Incorrect. Remember that matter has 4 states, one of which is plasma. Plasma can and does and currently IS burning in space, literally all over the visible galaxy - and i cannot stress the 'visible' point enough, since that burning plasma in space most commonly takes the form of STARS, by which we have day here on Earth, by which we can see things clearly. The Enterprise has an EPS system for routing power through the ship - Electromagnetic Plasma System.
Mikanojo 3 months ago