REVELATION† 3: The Seven Churches; THE RAPTURE.

[JesusHoldMyHand1]

They "types" of Believers from 5 of the 7 Churches will be left behind at the Rapture. Jesus tells these Bible Believing, Saved Christians to REPENT. They are involved in False Religions, False Doctrines, Sexual Immorality & they will go through the Great Tribulation which starts when Jesus opens the 1st Seal of His Judgments & Wrath. The "types" of Believers of Smyrna & Philadelphia WILL be in the Rapture. They are FAITHFUL to Christ & will receive their Crowns when the Lord Appears. PTL

[JanueryFifteen]

We who are His be true and faithful so The Creator His Name Yahweh Jehovah will be pleased and He see us faithful. The Father calls us to be His His representation Here on earth our duty is to be fill in His Spirit so we are prepared to do His will Thank You Father Your Revelation.Amen.

[TheAjeanmary]

he did not came here to judge but to saved the world

[TheAjeanmary]

iis just a dream God talk to you through visions and dreams to give you warning becoz you dont listen to him its just a warning for john becox of wut he beleived.....always adhjean.... he did not came here to judge but to save the world...

[makeme708]

The 7 churches are referring to all and every church throughtout the church age, GOD is no longer using the churches HE is calling HIS true elect out of the churches.

THE RAPTURE WILL OCCUR ON AMY 21 2011 AND JUDGMENTDAY WILL BEGIN, AND THE DOOR OF SALVATION WILL BE SHUT FOREVER, AND ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE STILL IN THE CHURCHES WILL KNOW THEY WERE NEVER SAVED AND THEY WILL ENTER INTO THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.

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[JoBernard12oxen]

you can not prove that the following statement is not an accurate statement, and if it is accurate a pretrib. rapture is impossible:

The day of the Lord, I Thess. 5:2, is the "same day (hour)" Christians meet the Lord in the air, I Thess. 4:17 "AND" the Wicked man of sin consumed, II Thess. 2:8-dragon/devil bound Rev 20:2 and his/the 2nd world kingdom (Rev.13:11) imposed the mark, kills saints, and received seven plagues "tribulation" Rev.15 is destroyed at Christ coming,

refutes pretrib.

[PEARL445]

The 2012 theary may be the rapture u guys! The lord will take the christians up. Then he will destroy all the others

[JudgmentDay1sComing]

***Some of His Promises To Each of Us***

Submit yourselves to God...

Draw Near to God, and He will Draw Near to you.James 4

Call to Him! He Will Answer You in Various Ways! Jeremiah 33:3

Create in Me a Clean Heart, O God; and Renew a Right spirit within Me?

Wash me Thoroughly from my Iniquity, and Cleanse Me from My sin? Psalm 51

And you Shall Seek Me, and Find Me, when you Shall Search for Me with All Your Heart. Jeremiah 29:11-13

Abba Father is, "In Love, With You too!;-)

[lizazoon]

REVELATION† 3: The Seven Churches; THE RAPTURE= Childish nonsense, speculation, misinterpretation, fantasy and plain bullshit.

[okebaram]

Maybe now it seems that way to you but maybe you will, in the future, ascend into some realization of what was said here.

[JudgmentDay1sComing]

@Keep it pure or make sure you change your heart and ways... ;-)

Heavenly Father, thank you for Loving me! Please Guide me into All Truth and convict me of any trespasses I have made against you or another? Convict me of sin, to live a righteous life and of the judgment to come.

I ask you to forgive and cleanse me of All my Sins? Let your Will be done in my life?

The Blood of Jesus Christ Cleanses Us From ALL sin! You are Faithful and Just to Forgive Us, of ALL unrighteousness! Ty!

[cazyblood3]

I AM PISSED OFF AT AMERICA AND OBAMA

[Billthesheepdog]

@cazyblood3 Why? Do you not know that Obama can only do what he is allowed to do so the end might come for Gods Glory? If you are saved please rejoice! For Jesus is near, even at the door! If you are not saved, please let me or someone know!

[InstrumentofGod360]

Dont be fooled by Satans lies, check out my video for the true meaning of the 7 churches!!! I have proof that they're secret codes sent out to the 7 main divisions of Christianity. Devil wants to seperate us, through confusing doctrines. MY VIDEO RESPONSE ABOVE!

[reconorder]

JOEB stands in his kingdom gates full of his fleshly life hard in his heart

He then hears a love story for a better KING has come

He rises & moves to the boarder of his kingdom & kneels at this new KINGS throne

He pledges his duty & love in Fidelity

the KING accepts & reaches out & SNATCHES him from his old kingdom & gives him a NEW name & makes him ambassador & sends him back home with love faith & truth as his advisors

his new KINGDOM grows until all the world is under the CHRIST amain

[reconorder]

if you come to a table and food is resting there and you taste it and it is neither WARM or cold then you know it not from whence it came at what hour was it made is it freshly killed and taken from the cold of the day or is it warm and take from the heat of the hearth and at what hour did it rest itself on the table so you therefore spit it out it is food poisoning to your belly and soul

[MegaPatriote]

i'm referring to the songs playing while you are preaching

it's bothering

[rossdaboss1959]

God bless!

[okebaram]

God bless you too. Thanx for watching and stay tuned

[MegaPatriote]

okebaram would you please spare the listeners these ditties?

how can you mix up the preaching with that?

[okebaram]

I have no idea what you mean.

[gurlwittwitt]

pslams 104:5 He has founded the earth upon its established places; It will NOT be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.

[gurlwittwitt]

Ecclesiastes 1:4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to tie indefinite.

[gurlwittwitt]

Isaiah 45:18 For this is what Jehovah ahs said, the Creator of the heavens, He the true God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.

[MartinKrauen]

all seven churches are located in turkey.

[robwiley01]

2 Thess 1 & 2:8 plainly show the one appearing of him that incinerates the planet! try reading Ps 50, 68, Isai 54 64 66 2 peter 3. Absolutely amazing you people cherry pick verses to creat a new religion yet omit all the rest that proves you dead wrong.,

[g3mstarr19]

This is pretty pathetic..such brainwash

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

Then in Revelation 15, after the trumpets have been sounded the angels are given the seven bowls of God's final wrath.

I am only posting this so that it might be helpful- Believing in what the Lord says about our blessed hope (the rapture) gives us Christians the hope that we will see Him soon and it also presses on us the urgency in telling others about Jesus Christ so that do not experience God's judgement.

The Lord bless!

[RemembeRemember]

Believe me, I would love for all of this to be true. Why wouldn't I? It's all great. But I'm also not afraid to face the evils and hardships here during tribulation. Where does it say that the seventh trumpet is sounded in the middle of tribulation?

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

If you read Revelation from beginning to end you will see that it is in chronological order, of course there is some overlapping when concerning the two witnesses and the 144,000 are concerned. Read Rev. chp. 6 you will see that the seals are opened first and then in chp. 8 you will see that after the seventh seal is opened the angels are given the seven trumpets.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

The trumpets are sounded in Chapter 11. In Chap. 12, 13, and 14, the discussion stops about judgments and goes into discussion on Israel, Satan (the beast), the false prophet, and the 144,000, etc. When you get to chap. 16 you will see that the final judgments occur with the bowls of wrath.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

I would have to say that I would be very scared of going through the tribulation. It will be very demonic and horrible- more than anyone could imagine. Although, those who do come to Christ during this time will be given special strength from the Holy Spirit, but many will fall to the pressure of the mark of the beast. I know only the Lord can give us the strength to stand for Him- I know personally that I do not have that courage without Him.

[okebaram]

Unless you are at the level of commitment of Paul the apostle or Peter or Stephen... who laid down their lives so expressly for the gospel, and it is not impossible to be at their level (but it is impossible without the Holy Spirit), but if you are not there, don't be so fly as to say you aren't afraid to face the trib. You just don't get what it will be like in those days, and neither do other Christians. Truth is we'll probably taste a bit of it before we are raptured.

[RemembeRemember]

Whether we are here or somewhere else during the tribulation, it doesn't matter. If I love G-d and do as He commands, there is nothing to fear, ever. He said He would protect His people and I have no reason to doubt that promise. Through understanding scripture I have a glimpse of G-d's power and that inkling of understanding of His power is so awesome that I cannot fear. After all He did create us, everything is in His hands and He will guide us and protect us if we allow Him to.

[okebaram]

True word

[robwiley01]

Well, you certainly dont realize who you may be addressing about how they operate in life's circumstances I'd say. fear is not a mode of one who knows Yeshua. Romans tells us nothing can seperate us from him.I'll gladly leave this planet anytime as he wills it yet I like you must adhere to clear clean pure scriptural truth and not some johnny come lately philosephy floating arounf the ethernet the "great ones" pontificate and avoid the rest of the bible disproving them..

[robwiley01]

your new religion rapture is a very suttle deception of the intellectuals of the USA. Do you people ever read the rest of the bible before uttering your theology? Or is it easier to swallow the deception of the false prophets leaders that run your religious community? regurgitating your theology many times will not ever make it true.

[okebaram]

Religious well-meaning people called my Lord a false prophet too and still do, because they thought they understood the scriptures but all they had was their own self-deceiving pride and arrogance. Lack of knowledge sure ain't bliss.

[robwiley01]

Anymore it's expected a nonanswer reply answer about the latest heresy called "rapture". Its a whole new religion. With a bunch of false prophets perpetuating it and lotsa scripture OMITTING on the subject. The guesswork is taken out for us who is who.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

Also your comment about the seventh trumpet being at the end of the tribulation ( I do not mean to be rude) is in the middle of the tribulation- so that would mean then you would have to hold to the belief of a Pre-wrath or Mid-Trib. rapture. If you look at Revelation 7:1-2, you will see that first come the seven seals and then there is silence for 1/2 hour, and then the angels were given the seven trumpets.

[RemembeRemember]

If we TRULY seek Him, He will guide us! That's what metters, no one can instruct us better than He who created us.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

What you are saying is totally correct- He will guide us by reading His Word and through prayer. But it is important to look at Scripture in Revelation and see it for what it really is- God does not speak in code and He reveals it to us. We as Christians in this Age of the Church do not need to prove our Salvation by going through the Lord's wrath though- then our Salvation would be based on our works.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

If one looks at Revelation 4:4-11 you will see that it talks about the ELDERS worshipping before Christ before Revelation gets into the beginnings of the Tribulation. ELDERS is not a OT term for the Jewish people ELDERS refer to the Church leaders and Rev. 4 shows that the ELDERS are worshipping the Lord before the Tribulation. This is one of many indicators that the Pre-Trib. Rapture is accurate.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

Many Christians forget that God is shifting His attention from the church to Israel. If you look in the Old Testament and study Daniel, Zechariah, Jeremiah, and a host of other OT prophets you will with out a doubt see that God has promised Israel that He would restore them and He would reign as their King in the Millennium. Yes, their will be Gentiles that will come to Salvation during this time but will be martyred for their faith.

[IcyFrozenWaffles]

I totally agree with okebaram. There is a pre-trib. rapture and there is much evidence. The book of Revelation is in chronological order with overlapping, but if one listens to the Holy Spirit you will see how simple the book of Revelation is and is not complicated. The age of grace which is the Church Age is about to end and God's wrath will be poured out for seven years-

[okebaram]

Well said.

[RemembeRemember]

What you believe to be the Rapture will occur at the SEVENTH TRUMPET. The LAST Trumpet. After tribulation.

[hemiphil81]

if you knew the word of GOD,you would know the church isnt mentioned in rev after chapter 3,why because she is gone.JESUS preached a pre-tri rapture.

[RemembeRemember]

Whether the rapture is real or not isn't as important as whether we are truly following G-d. That's all that matters! If we ARE seeking the L-rd we can know that whenever the L-rd comes we shall be with Him! G-d's people, whether they be here during tribulation or whisked away, we know they will be protected because G-d says they will and that, my friend, is awesome! How great is He! Let's rejoice!

[hemiphil81]

1 thess 1;12 and to wait for his son from heaven,whom he raised from the dead,even JESUS which delivered us from the wrath to come.

[jhudd2]

What is this "Secret Rapture?" It is the rapture and there is nothing secret but as to when it will happen.

[RemembeRemember]

What is this "Rapture"? We are soldiers of G-d and will witness the good news or Gospel until the end of this age. Why must we go and hide? Don't you remember what scripture says? G-d will protect us during tribulation.

[chuzwozza71]

A question for the author. Do you state that there will be a secret rapture?

[okebaram]

I believe the church (only the true Christians) will be removed from the earth before the 7-year period during which God releases His final judgment on the earth and after which Christ returns visibly to earth.

[chuzwozza71]

Thats Futurism. What about all those saints who had there throats cut and their babies mutilated. The concept you have adopted was created by the antichrist itself to redirect its exposure as the antichrist. For some it has worked. There is nothing secret about a SHOUT and nothing about your ideology that resembles the days of Noah. My friend we are at the sixth and seventh vial. But it all doesnt matter so long as Jesus is your saviour.

[okebaram]

In the days of Noah, his family was spared in the ark while the flood comsumed the wicked, just like the church will ba raptured whilte the worst of tribulations and God's wrath consumes the world. God revealed the rapture to me so it's really not up for debat as far as I know, but like you said, it's not so important that we should fight, as long as Jesus is our Savior, we are both safe, and you can just find out I was right when you get to heaven.

[xena1973]

There is no such thing as a pre tribulation rapture, open the bible itself and no other book and let it speak for itself.

[okebaram]

The bible does speak for itself! There's a lot of argument floating around but instead of you taking sides, you need to lean on God for revelation and not lean on your own understanding, but pray first for Him to reveal. There is absolutely a "pre-trib rapture" in the bible, and God confirms it as well to those who lean on Him for a side...

[xena1973]

First question show me were it say's that Christ will come before the Tribulation ????

[okebaram]

Christ appears visibly in the sky AFTER the tribulation. You are right. We are already in the tribulation by the way, based on what the bible call the tribulation, but the worst portion of the tribulation is the last seven years which takes place after the rapture and before Christ returns, and is also referred to as the Day of the Lord in the bible. I can get back to you later about this.

[xena1973]

2nd question, when the word elect is used in verse 31 Chapter 24 Matthew some say it refers to Jews but I say and it is bibilical study always do a word study to how a word is used and the word elect always refers to the body of christ, which is saints, beloved, brethern, church, one people no such thing found in the N.T. refering to a 2nd group of people as some say jews.

[okebaram]

The elect are the church, the saved. You are right. But verse 31 also says something that people don't seem to see even after reading the verse a million times. It says the elect are gathered from heaven not from earth, because they have already been either raptured or killed.

[okebaram]

People usually misquote the verse as saying TO heaven because the mind has a way of keeping in line with tradition...

[xena1973]

Matthew 24:31

31 And he (Jesus) will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect (saints) from the four winds (in bible means from the 4 corners of the earth not heaven), from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark13:31

27And then he (Jesus) will send out the angels and gather his elect (Saints) from the four winds, from the ends of the earth (The world) to the ends of heaven.

Luke 21:27

27 And then they (elect) will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud

[okebaram]

You made private interpetations of what the bible meant saying it meant the earth not heaven even though that's not what it said. Well, how about the bible meant yadiyadaya when it said love. How does that work out?

[okebaram]

As for Mark 13:27: Maybe a modern English translation will help u see what is said:

And then He will send out the angels and will gather together His elect (those He has [m]picked out for Himself) from the four winds, from the farthest bounds of the earth to the farthest bounds of heaven.

It's like saying I will choose people from accross the world, from Africa to America. It is NOT saying I will send people in Africa to America. Mark 13:27 and Matt 24:31 are not contradictory.

[xena1973]

Luke 21:27

with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, (believers on earth not heaven) because your redemption is drawing near."

[xena1973]

Matthew 24:29

29"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken

as before Christ will come for He's people after the tribulation as noted in verse 29 not before which disproves the pre trib rapture.

[okebaram]

Amen to the scripture quotation! Nope to the wrong statement that this disproved the rapture because it does not in any way or form. Christ comes visibly AFTER the trib, and with the saints. In fact this verse is talking about the 7 last years of tribulation after the tribulation we are in right now.

You know, instead of praying about it first, you are sitting here and throwing arguments forth. Do you really not understand the importance of that? I am not playing games with this.

[okebaram]

The angels that fell from grace and became Satan and his demons are not close to 10% of the total angel population. All the remaining angels are pure, holy and unblemished. The people who sin now are more than those who serve God, because Adam chose the weakness of original sin. However, during the 1000 year reign, there will be more people born on earth than throughout the entire history of man, and almost 100% of them will serve God forever. And U will be serving God soon, preaching the gospel

[Imaginefree69]

"Satan and his demons are not close to 10% of the total angel population. "

Chapter and verse, please?

"during the 1000 year reign, there will be more people born on earth than throughout the entire history of man, and almost 100% of them will serve God forever."

Chapter and verse, please?

"And U will be serving God soon, preaching the gospel"

What rot.

I did that for 44 years.

I will not return to that vomit.

[tweedtweed333]

what eles must pass before we can think about rapture? must USA become like Europe first?

[okebaram]

USA will lose the strength of its position as a wolrd leader. There will be more souls won to Christ and a great revival. There will be a degradation of the economy worldwide, especially of Western countries. Anyway, don't look for the rapture. Just expect it to happen now or later and look for God's agenda for today.

[okebaram]

Let me make a correction to my response to you. I don't mean don't look for the rapture. No, do that! I mean, don't try to figure out when it will happen like a lot of people do, and I mean don't get carried away in the excitement of it that you forget that God has plans for today that need to be met, which He is much more concerned about right now. God bless.

[Imaginefree69]

"don't get carried away in the excitement of it"

I'll try not to.

[gogeta0064]

look up the original Greek words for "kept" and "from"... look up the difference between: "tereo apo" "tereo ek" then come and tell me which phrase the Bible says... BTW... tribulation = thlipsis wrath = thumos/orge tribulation is NOT the same as wrath Rev. 20:1-6; Rev. 6:12-17; Joel 2:31; Matt. 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27; Luke 21:25-28; 1 Thes. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:52 Scofield says "there are 3 comings" God says "he will appear a second time" (Hbrws. 9:28)

[paseggiato]

there are many anti christs Jesus even said that.

[didispring]

IT WAS ALSO SAY THEY WILL BE MUCH CONFUSION WE R ALL CONFUSED . THE BIBLE IS MISSING A LOT OF PARTS IT'S SAD BUT GOD SAYS THE DEVIL WILL MESS WITH R MINDS IN MANY WAYS TRICKING OUR BIBLE IS ONE . WHY IS THERE SO MANY DIFFERENT BIBLE A NEW ONE CREATE EVERY YEAR . SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER. AND CHURCH IS NOT GONNA SAVE US ,IT'S YOU FAITH THAT WILL. CAUSE CHURCH AS WELL IS VERRY MUCH CORRUPTED. I LOVE THE lORD HE GIVE KNOLEDGE. GLORY TO YOU OH LORD HELP US OVERSTAND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND AMEN

[chriswalkerbraid]

your imaginary friend in the sky is coming to save you - HA!

[okebaram]

All you are doing is displaying your alarming ignorance b4 all these youtube Christians that know the living real, alive Jesus. How sad it is that you've let your pride keep you from finding the most important truth of your life. It's not too late though.

[pdxeddie1111]

everyone keeps looking for the rapture. Don't know about it myself for sure but I think it could fall under the endless arguments and controversies that Paul talked about. To me it's not as important as being faithful which is really the tougher part because this really is a world of darkness and we're in it. Come quickly Lord

[okebaram]

That's the correct attitude to have and that is what I have also tried to tell people, whether or not they believe in the rapture, to lean on God alone and not pick sides until He shows them which is right, and to realize that it is not that important, and more important is to walk with God in His will as we look for the Lord's coming

[tandrus7]

That's not a good attitude to have. Jesus said when you see these things know that your redemption is near. What things? Everything He mentioned in Matt. 24 including the revealing of the anti christ.

[pdxeddie1111]

Are you saying that the anti christ is already revealed?

[tandrus7]

No. The emergence of the anti christ is at least one of the many great signs before His second coming. The other is the great apostasy of the church. He also said the gospel will be preached as a witness to all the nations and then the end shall come. Also, He told Israel until they said "blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" He would not return. They do this under much duress. Again, He said when you see these signs look up and know your redemption is near, right at the door. Okay?

[nickomay30]

36"But concerning that day and hour(BN) no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,(BO) nor the Son,[b](BP) but the Father only.

MATTHEW 24:36

[gogeta0064]

35 Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back--whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn.

36 If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping.

37 What I say to you, I say to everyone: 'Watch!' "-37

only talks about the day and hour... nothing about the week, month, year, decade, etc... the world says "Christ can come at any moment"

Christ says "watch, because you do not know the day or hour"

[grester]

The Laodiceans represent the present church age, not the other churches. Also very fitting I might add:

Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

[okebaram]

Hi, I want you to remember something most Christians forget: on issues like this, always pray to God for revelation even after you've done your own study, because what seems right to a man may be off. If you sincerely pray to God and trust Him, I promise you He will reveal to you the truth of the rapture. That is my guarantee. However, I will try to watch your videos so that I can know the biblical reasons that make people disbelieve the rapture: it will help me prove the rapture to them. Thanks

[Timpler10]

2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

if a spirit says something contrary to the word of God, then you might want to take pauls advise here.

[rureyeswideopen2]

He will keep us from the hour of trial that is coming upon this world. We walk in God's love, and truth. Looking for the coming of our Lord, and Savior, Jesus!

[45bandit]

Whatever! No proof

[AudioStar7]

and Jesus will be with us THROUGH TRIBULATION...

[AudioStar7]

there is no such thing as a secret rapture... Jesus said as the lightning shines from east to west- so shall the coming of the Lord Be and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM... He will come as a theif- becasue people will be as in the days of NOAH eating and drinking etc... LOUD TRUMPET will BE HEARD and WAKE UP THE DEAD IN CHRIST... AND WE WHO ARE ALIVE WILL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER IN THE CLOUDS WITH JESUS... COOL!

[gogeta0064]

let me put it this way: would you die for Him?

[gogeta0064]

I know it sucks to hear it at first, but keep in mind Matthew 24:37 "But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." there was no rapture back then... Noah and his family went through the tribulation and persecution from everyone else... THEN God protected them from His wrath on the rest of the Earth's population... Noah's situation clearly points that we will go through the Great Tribulation, but be protected from the Wrath of God

[gogeta0064]

then prove it to me that it says we are not going to go through Satan's wrath, because we have been ever since Christ ascended into heaven... even Christ said we would have great tribulation in our life.

Tell me something: do you follow God's Word, or do you follow Emmanuel Lacunza, John Nelson Darby, the Brethren Movement, and Cyrus Scofield?

I say this not to be mean, but only to help you see His truth and love for us.

[gogeta0064]

Sorry, but Revelation 3:10 does not speak of rapture before the Tribulation.... study the original Greek... the preposition "ek" is used in original Greek, and "ek" means to take one out by going through it, not plucking it from the outside. When the rapture happens, it will happen at the last trumpet, which is written in the last part of Revelation 11

[okebaram]

The rapture is true. These things are not stated in black and white in the bible, that is why we need to be leaning on the Holy Spirit for unerstanding, and not thinking that because we have a relationship with God, we understand these things through our own study and calculations. We are removed by going through the tribulation, because we've gone through the first part of tribulation and only escape the last 7 years. So pray for God to show you HIS own interpretation of the rapture subject.

[gogeta0064]

yes, there is one... BUT we are removed from God's Wrath, not Satan's Wrath... it is made clear that God does not let his children go through the Day of the Lord, but will let us go through tribulation, great and small, to help us gain perseverance... and I grew up all of my life believing in a rapture. It wasn't until I read God's Word and stopped relying in man made doctrine... only then was I able to see the Truth.

do some research on the history of dispensationalist futurism.

[okebaram]

The 7-yr trib is not Satan's wrath. It is identified everywhere in the bible as judgement from God. Satan has always had wrath. But the 7-yr trib is when God's wrath removes the protection that has hindered Satan from fully doing what he's always wanted to do. Like I said pray about it. I have read God's word to. So it's not about whether or not you read God's word, it's about if you can ask God Himself to explain His own word to you. Can U do that? Or do U know God's word too much to ask Him?

[Jesus4MySoul]

God bless you, but there is only 1 resurrection and it is after the tribulation.

don't be lead astray!

please.

[okebaram]

I believe there is most definitely a pre-tribulation rapture. God still speaks and I know what He's shown me. But even if we don't agree, neither believing in a pre-trib or in a post-trib is enough to really make a Christian be astray, as long as we hold on to the call of Christ, you know what I mean?

[Jesus4MySoul]

NO!

you must read your scriptures!

You cannot twist the divine word of god into what you wish it would read!

Yes, i am so happy that you are saved in our Lord, but you must research this information!

i suggest viewing youtube dr. ice vs. richard perry.

the pre-trib rapture man could come up with nothing back up his statements!

don't be deceived brother!

[tandrus7]

The first rule of exegesis. If it is not stated in black and white then don't make up your own interpretation. For example when paul uses the words "caught up" you can't say everyone in church is going to heaven before the tribulation to spend seven years. The text doesn't read that way. However, that scripture does more line up with matt. 24 that says Yeshua will send His angels to gather the elect. That seems to coincide with the scripture the righteous will meet the Lord in the air by Paul.

[okebaram]

The bible absolutely agrees with the rapture. I don't want to start and argument, I am about to make a video to show this and then I will send it to you and then you can reply in the comments.

[tandrus7]

The bible agrees with what rapture? You say that, as if the bible has made that a truth when in fact if you read the ot and nt they all speak of the "resurrection day" or "last day". When Jesus encountered martha she said if you had been here my brother would not have died. Jesus said he will live. martha said i know he will live again in the resurrection on the last day. If a jewish woman has knowledge this 2,000 years ago why can't the church understand? Because the church manufactured a lie.

[XxJosielxX]

who's Mantra?

[ben2gotube]

I do not want you to listen. I just want you to DIG DEEP like what Mr. hiimwhiteboy had done. There is a Counterfeit Christians represented by the the rider in the White horse, DIG DEEP my friend. Don't believe to what I am saying.

[tuxedomask91]

In case some of you didn't know the phrase "caught up" in the bible means rapture. Rapture is the latin word for caught up. So early christians who read the bible in latin saw the word rapture not "caught up" so rapture is a biblical word. Just not in english. You could also make the same arguement about the word Bible not being in the bible so therefore the arguement on rapture is silly!

[gogeta0064]

1 Thessalonians 4:17 does talk of being caught up, and 2 Thessalonians talks or when that day will come, and what must happen before.

[tandrus7]

The argument against the pre trib rapture is not silly. There is only one second coming and it is called "resurrection day." That is when the dead in Christ shall rise. If there was a pre trib rapture the Lord would have said "listen guys I am coming back for the believers before the great tribulation. Then we will come back again for the resurrection, okay?" The bible was written by jewish men. latin came from the catholic church. Paul was saying caught up in the air "sky" not to heaven.

[hiimwhiteboy]

false teaching, there is no rapture. Please refrain from using Gods word to turn into lies. John haggee benny hinn and every tv false prophet jr.

Repent.

[markev16]

look rapture didnt write in the bible but there is written that christians will grab or "CAUGHT" up in heaven incuruptible in heaven when jesus returns! which is we also called a to get or to grab in heaven ..

rapture (caught) has a two stages:

[markev16]

1. jesus will take his people home incuruptible when the dead heard the trumpeth and also the living christians in this worl alive will also caught up in heaven.

2. jesus second coming is to come down in the heavens to defeat satan and hes fellow demons and captured them! and jesus will reign for over a 1 thousand yrs..

that is what the rapture is,

[bebe280]

there were 3 raptures mentioned in the bible, Enoch Gen 3:24 elijah and Jesus, its nothing new its been done before. I'm sorry for this brothers and sisters, If there is a rapture, I want you to leave in it, and for that you have to believe there is one. Sorry for interrupting.

[Pressence101]

The rapture isn't a lie of Satan. It's going to happen, and everyone should be getting ready, because it is going to happen very soon. Pay attention to the New World Order globalists! They're doing all they can to speed up the process.

[daro2096]

The secret rapture is not in the Bible. When Jesus comes back that is it. There is no second chance afterwards. The rapture and the resurrection are the same event. The resurrection takes place before the rapture. This event is the most nosiest event in the whole Bible. The church will go through the tribulation.

[okebaram]

The rapture occurs before the Lord's return, about 7 years before. Those who are saved at that time will not go through the last 7 years of tribulation worse than the tribulation before it. However, people will put their trust in God during those years, and so there will be "the church" in those days as well. But today's saints will be in heaven if they endure till then.

[daro2096]

Where do you get the seven years of tribulation from?

The rapture happens after the tribulation.

Please read Revelation 22:11, 12.

When Jesus comes the destinys of every person on this planet is decided. He comes with his rewards at the second coming.

Those saved in Christ are raised up first then the saved living are caught up in the air with the resurrected dead to meet Jesus.

[daro2096]

(cont)

When Jesus comes for his people the wicked are destroyed by the brightness of his coming. Bible says He will not keep silent.

The pre-trib rapture is a lie of the Jesuits. Protestants didn't even believe in this until a hundred years ago. You read the old commentaries on the Bible you won't find anything about a secret rapture or 7 years tribulation.

[daro2096]

Were the Israelites taken out of Egypt before or after the plagues.

Was Noah saved from the flood or through the flood?

A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; [but] it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. Psalm 91:7, 8, 10.

[okebaram]

Your problem is that you have set up for your self YOUR own understanding, your own theology, your literacy and education as your teacher, and laws and rules in interpreting the bible. All you said is missapplied contexts. Don't be offended. Many bonafide men of God do the same thing. The bible is not a mathematical code. finding a relationship in the bible like a days to a year doesn't mean it applies through out the bible. The bible is strategic, not scientific or scholarly.

[daro2096]

I only used the Bible to explain the Bible. No interpretation of the prophecy is of any private interpretation. One part of the Bible does not contradict another part.

[okebaram]

...But I'm sure you are going to keep arguing. That's because people set upp their own religious wisdom where God should be never change their minds about what they think is knowledge of scripture. I dare you to prove me wrong, by dropping all your preconceived knowledge of scrpture and truthfully asking the Holy Spirit for the interpretation. Understanding does not come from the east or the west, but from God. Even men of God need to totally understand this.

[daro2096]

I dare you to read the classic Bible commentaries. You won't find pre-trib rapture or 7 years of tribulation in them.

Futurism was invented by a Jesuit priest in the 16th century. It wasn't even accepted by Protestants until about 1880.

Anyone who has studied the Bible knows the secret rapture is a lie of the devil.

[okebaram]

You need to lean on the Holy Spirit, not on "classic bible commentaries" or any of the other things that intrigue the scholarly world, when it comes to the bible. God is constantly revealing new things, things that the majority of people in the "classic bible" times may not have understood. And His revelations may not seem to come through the "right people" either. God did not write a scientific or politically correct book, he maximised his message by being strategic...

[okebaram]

...See, this is not just about the rapture, I'm trying to give you a key to help you enter into more revelation of what God is doing. Otherwise you will miss out on some bonuses you could have had by reason of understanding. If you take my advice you'll be doing yourself a favor because there's a lot God wants to reveal to the church, but the church is too dogmatic. Forget about what people taught or didn't teach. Seek God on a one-on-one basis for interpretation. I know what God told me.

[banzaime28]

yea you are right i am 6 years old seans i studied this revelation thing cause i got a little bit exciting cause its the only book in the bible that is not yet done haha god blessed he's bible not to just explain that is why you are right

[jaden65532]

okebaram, if the rapture is going to happen. Then can you explain 2 Peter 3:10-13??? Just to let you know, the Lord is not gonna come back 4 times. The Lord was here ONE time to die on the cross for are sins, and the Lord is gonna come back ONE more TIME to get us, and that's it. AMEN

[daro2096]

There is more than one day of the Lord. When Jesus returns for his bride that is the Day of the Lord. When the wicked are resurrected, judged and destroyed that is the Day of the Lord.

When Jesus returns there is a partial lake of fire. The beast and the false prophet are destroyed in a lake of fire when Jesus returns. When Jesus returns with the saints there is another lake of fire this time world wide.

[okebaram]

What perceived concept fom the verses you gave makes you feel unconvinced about the rapture event?

[daro2096]

Actually the Lord has corrected me. The Day of the Lord lasts a 1000 years, it begins with the second coming and ends with the wicked being destroyed in the lake of fire.

[hiimwhiteboy]

the rapture isnt going to happen, we would have already been taken. The rapture goes into the 7th trumpet or the 7th Seal.

[okebaram]

The rapture is definitely going to happen, and has not yet happened. The bible tells us this in many places, like I showed in this video. There's even a very important reason for it. Don't let truth pass you by.

[hiimwhiteboy]

it says we who are alive and remain. that means a lot of people will die. 7th trumpet the DEAD ARE RAISED. as it says the DEAD in christ will rise first.

[okebaram]

Those who are alive and remain, are those who are raptured. They are the believers who are alive when Jesus raptures the church. Watch Chapter 7B of my series on this one.

[daro2096]

Read the rest of 1 Thess 4 please. Those of us who are alive and remain will not precede(or prevent) those who are asleep(dead) so if the pre-trib rapture is true you got to prove there is more than one resurrection of the saved dead.

[okebaram]

You are partially correct. The dead in Christ rise first. Next the alive church is raptured but the world doesn't end just yet. See Dan 8:12. The bible tells us that two periods of roughly 3 and a half years each, sometimes figuratively called 'time, times and half a time', transpire after the taking of the church to heaven and in this time there is greatest tribulation, after which Jesus returns and changes the world.

[daro2096]

The time, times and half a time is a symbolic way of saying 1260 years. A day is a year in Bible prophecy(Eze 4:6, Num 14:34). A time is one year and there are 360 days in a Bibical year so 360 days would equal 360 years. So 2300 days would equal 2300 years.

These 1260 prophetic days have already been fulfilled. It was the dark ages of the Church from 538 to 1798AD when the Pope was taken into exile at the end of the 1260 day/years receiving the deadly wound that would heal of Revelation 13.

[okebaram]

Can you explain 2 Thess 2:1-12 (emphasis on verse 7) which really tells of the rapture taking place before the antichrist comes? First resurrection: Rev 7:9-17. All who receive Christ during those years are murdered before the end of those seven years. And then are resurrected in heaven.

[daro2096]

You have to put verse 7 in context with verse 5. Paul told them whatever it was that was holding back the anti-christ from coming on the scene. Some say Paul meant the Holy Spirit will one day be withdrawn from the earth and then the anti-christ will come but I have a problem with this because without the Holy Spirit it is impossible for anybody to be saved. So I don't believe Paul was talking about the Holy Spirit in verse 7.

[daro2096]

(cont)

So what was Paul talking about?

The Roman Empire was ruling at that time. Paul was saying that when the Roman Empire falls then the anti-christ will come to power.

[okebaram]

Second resurrection: Rev 15:1-4. I don't mean to sound opinionated, but I wasn't sure or really worried about whether the rapture was manmade or not before God showed me this revelation. I myself was a little surprised. I promise you, the rapture is a sure thing, as sure as anything that is sure. A definite, immovable gaurantee. I know because God showed me instead of me showing myself.

[daro2096]

Revelation 7 and 15 are describing the same event. This is what is called hebrew parallelism. The churches of Rev. 3, the seals of Rev. 6 to 8 and the trumpets of Rev. 8 to 11 are the same time period told from different angles just like the prophecies of Daniel.

[daro2096]

The wicked are taken away to destruction at the appearing of the Lord. Those who are left alive are the 144,000 of Rev. chapter 7.

[robwiley01]

your words are NOT truth.

the rupture is a filthy abberant religion from america.

the "fan" in Matt 3:12 is the reaping angels described in Matt 13:38-42. All will see & hear the event as described in Mattew 24:30-31. You are a very confused american.

[okebaram]

Go on to the next Chapter, now airing :)