The last group of stations I knew of that signed off at night was Mississippi Public Broadcasting...which signed off sunday night with the National Anthem. As far as I know they went 24/7 after the digital switch.
Tell Me,What became of Westinghouse?Is it now CBS Corporation?Did WBZ get a new owner?I know in my local market the Channel 10 WBIR was either merged or sold to Gannet Company after they bought Multi-media,Inc.Thanks.Brainy
Westinghouse merged with CBS shortly after Group "W" signed a deal to have all of its' stations (except KDKA and KPIX) switch to CBS around 1994-95.
By 1998, Westinghouse sold all of it's non-broadcasting units (electric items, nuclear facilites whatever) and rechristened itself as CBS Corporation.
That CBS Corporation was bought out by Viacom, only to be split up in late 2006.
I remember that exit title for "The Movies" on KPIX as a kid in the late '70s. Of course KPIX was a key Group W station in San Francisco affiliated with CBS.
Yes, that's about right but I don't remember it much before then. I do remember WBZ going off the air Sunday nights with the British series "UFO" but probably later than 1975.
Very interesting stuff...things I thought I would never see again. I don't remember BZ ever signing off, I always thought they were 24/7 from in or around 1978...I would assume these were from a weekend evening when they signed off for maintenence possibly?
WBZ went off the air, probably for maintenance, for several hours on, I think, Sunday nights only (which technically would have been the wee-hours of Monday morning).
I think the dates of these signoffs need a little revision, and I also think they are shown out of order. The first one with the darkened rooftop is definately from '85, but the second one with living room scene did not debut until early 1989 (when the italicized WBZ-TV 4 logo in the capsule was introduced). The third one, with the updated rooftop colors, was from '87.
I now have to revise this..the updated rooftop colors were early 1987 (although the slide was still used on an alternating basis from fall 1987 through 1988), and the capsule-shaped, italicized WBZ logo was from fall 1987 onward.
I wonder - was the second test-pattern (at around the 2:05 mark) an old-style Xerox color copy of the pattern as shown around the 0:25 mark? Does look a bit like such in comparison to me. Also, it seems 'BZ was the second Boston station (after the first WNAC) to use the Army SSB.
The design, I agree, is the same - but I noticed a slight difference in which font was used for the "BOSTON, MASS." line - Eurostile Bold in the 0:25-mark sample, Helvetica Medium in the 2:05-mark sample. Incidentally, this was a color adaptation of a B&W pattern used by WBZ to the mid-1960's, which was a proto-"PC" monoscope T.P. (non-"Indian head").
This could be possible, although I have many versions of some of these various TPs, and particularly with WSBK, the transmission quality, color-tint and image-distortion varies widely...
There is always the possibility that WBZ-TV had several slides of the same TP, with some variant text styles produced at different times, and used them at will. (I look for the dirt marks on the 35mm slides to compare the differences). This might explain the subtle differences you noticed.
I suspect the only ones who can confirm it are WBZ Engineers and Film-guys from that era.
I also noticed, WBZ's color scheme was similar to, yet different from, what sister station KYW-TV in Philadelphia had for its test pattern. But the same text layout was in force there, too.
The last group of stations I knew of that signed off at night was Mississippi Public Broadcasting...which signed off sunday night with the National Anthem. As far as I know they went 24/7 after the digital switch.
kyle1081 1 year ago
Back when TV was worth watching. Thanks for uploading these.
kataisa3 1 year ago
Wow... there's a trip through the wayback machine.
USAbLaSt 1 year ago
Thanks for this video!!!!! I love the clips!!!!!!!
pancakeman22 1 year ago
this brings back so many memories. Watching this puts me back in time for a moment. Thanks for sharing!
sensi42069 1 year ago 2
Tell Me,What became of Westinghouse?Is it now CBS Corporation?Did WBZ get a new owner?I know in my local market the Channel 10 WBIR was either merged or sold to Gannet Company after they bought Multi-media,Inc.Thanks.Brainy
brainman214 3 years ago
I'll give you the synopsis:
Westinghouse merged with CBS shortly after Group "W" signed a deal to have all of its' stations (except KDKA and KPIX) switch to CBS around 1994-95.
By 1998, Westinghouse sold all of it's non-broadcasting units (electric items, nuclear facilites whatever) and rechristened itself as CBS Corporation.
That CBS Corporation was bought out by Viacom, only to be split up in late 2006.
That's it in a nutshell.
GenerationYM 3 years ago
I bet the sign-on clips was at 6 AM.
nwest1140 3 years ago
Wasn't the first Ch 4 program on weekends "International Zone," the UN show?
caseyg5 3 years ago
wow they showed movies early in the morning on a BROADCAST channel. now they only show them on weekends usually
Punkghost21 3 years ago
No, "The Movies" in Boston was late night, probably Sunday. "The Summer of '42" was on that a lot.
caseyg5 3 years ago
He may have meant early morning-overnight.
WBZ ran 'The Movies' in '75 on weekend afternoons as well.
MSTS1 3 years ago
WIXT in Syracuse(now WSYR)used it as well.
smittykins 4 years ago
I remember that exit title for "The Movies" on KPIX as a kid in the late '70s. Of course KPIX was a key Group W station in San Francisco affiliated with CBS.
micmac99 4 years ago
WIXT in Syracuse(now
smittykins 4 years ago
WBZ-TV was running 'The Movies' at least as far back as spring 1975, and possibly before then.
I think I have an audio clip of it from that time- 4/75.
MSTS1 3 years ago
Yes, that's about right but I don't remember it much before then. I do remember WBZ going off the air Sunday nights with the British series "UFO" but probably later than 1975.
caseyg5 3 years ago
@micmac99 KECH 22 (now KPXG TV) in Salem, OR. used this bumper in the early '80s
aladdin1052 1 month ago
Very interesting stuff...things I thought I would never see again. I don't remember BZ ever signing off, I always thought they were 24/7 from in or around 1978...I would assume these were from a weekend evening when they signed off for maintenence possibly?
Eaglejock1069 4 years ago
That's a good point, and I'd forgotten that..
WBZ went off the air, probably for maintenance, for several hours on, I think, Sunday nights only (which technically would have been the wee-hours of Monday morning).
MSTS1 4 years ago
Yes, it was Sunday nights.
caseyg5 3 years ago
Agreed!
mr2del 4 years ago
Nice. Thanks!
bostonmediaguy 4 years ago
Very educational. ;)
acb06172005 4 years ago
I think the dates of these signoffs need a little revision, and I also think they are shown out of order. The first one with the darkened rooftop is definately from '85, but the second one with living room scene did not debut until early 1989 (when the italicized WBZ-TV 4 logo in the capsule was introduced). The third one, with the updated rooftop colors, was from '87.
VaultMasterDBT 4 years ago
I now have to revise this..the updated rooftop colors were early 1987 (although the slide was still used on an alternating basis from fall 1987 through 1988), and the capsule-shaped, italicized WBZ logo was from fall 1987 onward.
VaultMasterDBT 1 year ago
I wonder - was the second test-pattern (at around the 2:05 mark) an old-style Xerox color copy of the pattern as shown around the 0:25 mark? Does look a bit like such in comparison to me. Also, it seems 'BZ was the second Boston station (after the first WNAC) to use the Army SSB.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
It was always the same slide, but the transmission quality varied...
MSTS1 4 years ago
The design, I agree, is the same - but I noticed a slight difference in which font was used for the "BOSTON, MASS." line - Eurostile Bold in the 0:25-mark sample, Helvetica Medium in the 2:05-mark sample. Incidentally, this was a color adaptation of a B&W pattern used by WBZ to the mid-1960's, which was a proto-"PC" monoscope T.P. (non-"Indian head").
wmbrown6 4 years ago
WmBrown6
This could be possible, although I have many versions of some of these various TPs, and particularly with WSBK, the transmission quality, color-tint and image-distortion varies widely...
MSTS1 4 years ago
Speaking of color/tint distortion, I figured that used color camera tubes would've been another factor, as well as slide use . . .
wmbrown6 4 years ago
There is always the possibility that WBZ-TV had several slides of the same TP, with some variant text styles produced at different times, and used them at will. (I look for the dirt marks on the 35mm slides to compare the differences). This might explain the subtle differences you noticed.
I suspect the only ones who can confirm it are WBZ Engineers and Film-guys from that era.
I'd go to the source...
MSTS1 4 years ago
I also noticed, WBZ's color scheme was similar to, yet different from, what sister station KYW-TV in Philadelphia had for its test pattern. But the same text layout was in force there, too.
wmbrown6 4 years ago