President Washington was, is and always will be a hero, statesman and the father of our country. He was a good man who did great things. You obviously do not get the point and so there is no sense talking about this further. I have said my piece and will not respond further.
My grandmother was a racist. She simply did not know any better. Being a racist did not make he evil. She was the kindest gentlest person I ever met and the great great granddaughter of a slave
@shatros She died without knowing her ancestry. And she also was not evil. She was simply the product of her times. And George Washington was still the father of our country and still deserves the title.
& this is the point. All slaveowners engaged - directly or indirectly - in the killing of people. Why? B/C supporting an industry that goes to Africa, robs people, forces them to work & then uses them for generations means that those who bought sugar & those who were on ships were involved. Many chose not to be.
Owning slaves is wrong, whether you inherit them or get them yourself. If we excuse saying "product of the times" then so were the nazis & then why not excuse them too?
@EBanonymous Not for nothing but slavery was a worldwide occurance. All throughout history men sought to enslave other men. It was started in Africa, and it died in the US. I think people need to wake up and realize the people who sold slaves were the same ethnicity as the slaves, and procured their "product" by attacking and pillaging local villages. One might also argue slavery is still alive and kicking in middle eastern women, except instead of men enslaving men, it's men enslaving wives.
"it started in Africa". No, slavery did not begin there. Strange how HIV, slavery & everything else began with blacks. But when it comes to the pyramids, maths (pythagorean theorem), history (Herodotus) or even medicine, few people admit those Greeks copied from Egypt. They also tell myths: that Egypt was white. See Martin Bernal's work on this.
Slavery did not "die" in the US, and continues today in US prisons & places in Asia. U ignore the fact the Europeans demanded slaves cont -
@EBanonymous Who the hell is "they" and why should I take up a position defending the boogeymen in your head? I never said anything about greece, arabs, or any of that crap. I stated the simple fact that slavery started in africa, which you rehashed when you said it began in egypt. All human discovery and progress is modified from another discovery, it's how we move on as a species. Of course Egypt was an astonishing society, who did great things, but also kept massive slave populations to
@EBanonymous Oh, and as for your comment of slavery in prisons... there are problems with our justice system, mostly with minor non-violent/drug charges getting ridiculous sentences. However, I was taught when I was 18 that it was time to grow up and act like an adult, and given a proper example of how to do so. Many of the men in those prisons simply never grew up and couldn't intigrate into the working world, perhaps due to 70% single mother rate in the black community.
You misunderstand. "you" refers to the absurd version of history taught in the US & some of Europe ie slavery began in Egypt (with blacks) & Greece was the "cradle f civilisation". Both have similar roots in white supremacy, and niether has any evidence to back it up.
Slavery may have begun in Egypt, Babylon or in some village further east. Wed don't know. It's wrong to blame Africans. And some people in US media specifically target the victims & blame them. That's common.
You're correct poverty is one of the major causes of the drugs problem. But whites and blacks have similar rates, and blacks well...7 blacks in jail for every white. I think 3 Latinos for every white. The reason why there're so many single mothers isn't "responsibility". It's because the majority of black men between 20-35 have been in jail.
The 94 crime bill has a lot to do with it. 2.3 million is the largest prison ever. But why so many black men do self destructive behaviour? cont
Because they're few opportunities for blacks. They were kept in virtual slavery til after WW2, had a brief respite, and now receive the blame for much of society's ills. Douglas Blackmon won the Pulitzer for Slavery by Another Name on this topic. He's right.
And when federal housing made mortgages available round WW2, less than 1% went to non-white (about). That's why blacks live in ghettos & whites don't. Jim Crow. The UN says "de facto segregation". it's easy to say "mature"
@EBanonymous Look I'm not gonna argue with you about slavery or anything of the sort. You're trying to bait me into going against black people when I have no problem with them or any other type of people. I simply wanted to point out that your opinion on history is very skewed. Besides, your greece arguement is based on greek philosophy, not greek architecture. Greek philosophy DID create modern society, it made its way through rome, through britain, and continues to be studied today.
No, you're too cynical. I think you made valid points on the prison stuff. I'm not saying these things to "catch you out" or call u a racist or something. Maybe ur black for all I know? I'm saying there is 0 evidence to say slavery began in Africa. & u have none. Evidence shows that advanced maths, medicine, etc predate the Greeks & those they claim started it all studied in Egypt.
Some govt/language influence, but most is fabrication. 1500+ yrs before "Greece", others did it.
cont - from the early 15th century the Europeans were in Africa & forced villages to hand over slaves. They armed their enemies when they refused, and the Europeans had guns. What could Africans do? That included the Church - directly.
That version u tell mythology ie the Greeks began civilisation or Africans were the inventors of slavery. Stop repeating Rush Limbaugh:
Africans had indentured servitude, not chatte slavery. Arabs in 6th C brough it to Africa; Europe in the 15th.
@EBanonymous carry out their progress. I dunno where you got Rush Limbaugh from, I'm a pretty liberal guy and have seemingly listened to him less than you since you can quote him. Also, criticizm of the church is not going to get under my skin, I got over religion when I hit the age of rational thought. As for europeans warring Africans, I'm not european. But civilization has warred since its inception and will continue to do so until its demise. You can't single out one people, all have warred.
Just because slavery is evil does not make the slave owners all evil. Killing is evil. But that does not mean that everyone who has killed is evil. racism is evil but that does not mean every racist is or was evil.
You absolutely cannot hold any man of the 18th century to the moral standards of the 21st century. If you like, we can discuss the shortcommings of the various civil rights leaders. I could drag a lot of things out of their closets.
George Washington was only 11 years old when he inherited 10 of his father's slaves. He was born into a world in which the ownership of slaves was considered normal and even right just like the world my ancestor was born into it.
How disgraceful that a video which is about George Washington is titled "President's Day" when the actual name of this holiday is George Washington's Birthday! There is in fact no such thing as "President's Day." Nixon tried unsuccessfully to have his birthday changed to honor other presidents. NO other person but Washington is worthy of a holiday in this country. He is the father of our nation and you would all do well to remember it.
Well while you spout off about "honouring" him, ask yourself what you're saying.
A man who had a SLAVE plantation(not a "farm") where blacks were held & forced to work. Many ran away, like Harry, Oney Judge & Hercules later on. He tried to recapture them. When you talk about building a country, it was the slaves who did the manual labour, not the rich white men who owned the slaves & supportd slavery
Slaves didn't honour him like YOU do. WOnder why??? Crimes against humanity maybe
@EBanonymous One of my ancestors owned the largest plantation in the territory of Florida. He had numerous slaves. Some of them African. Some of them native American. I am decended not only from him but also two of his slaves. I honor him because he is my ancestor.
@shatros His father was a notorious pirate but because he is my ancestor, I honor him as well. We honor great men of the past not for their shortcommings but for their accomplishments. Were it not for George Washington's leadership, we would likely not have won the revolution and you would be bowing to a white queen right now instead of having a black president.
Well - correct me if I'm wrong - but you're saying that a slave owner took advantage of you're ancestors wh were slaves, as like in what Jefferson did w/ Sally Hemmings? You mean rape? Cause that what it sounds like you're saying, and if I'm wrong I sincerely apologise.
You honour a person who did that? That was really common, but I owning people, raping them & having a descendent honour the person who did those crimes makes no sense to me. I didn't honour my dad when he beat my mom.
@EBanonymous Actually, the slave was owned first by his father. He then in turn inherited the slave who he had fallen in love with as a boy. They could not legally marry. he had a house built for her and gave her servants. They had about 12 children together. At the time it was not legal for him to set her or their children free.
@shatros He entrusted her with the management of two of his plantations and his sons by her were plantation supervisors. All were given large sums of money. I have some of those silver coins. When she died he married another of his slaves who was Native American. By this time it was legal for him to marry a slave but only if she was Native American. All his grandchildren eventually inherited shares of the plantations that he owned, when it was legal for them to do so.
@EBanonymous You are wrong. My ancestor was in love with a slave girl his father owned. It was illegal in Florida at the time for him to marry her. When his father died he inherited her. They had 12 children together.
@shatros After she died he fell in love with another slave, a Native American. With her he had more children. He had no other children. All his grandchildren eventually inherited shares of his plantations.
@shatros he was born into a slave owning family and raised to believe that was the way the world worked. She was born a slave and raised to believe that was the way the world worked. They made the most of what they were given. She died a free woman and no Lincoln had nothing to do with it.
@shatros There is more to history than sound bites in politically correct speeches given by polititcians looking for your vote or rabble rousers trying to revise that history. I sugest you actually read some before you start making acusations.
I too hate sound bites & I won't even start on PC. I only know what you tell me about these individuals. Slavery was a complicated system & slave marriages weren't allowed. So there were some people who did adopt a slave girl & treat her like a wife; that's not unheard of, but it wasn't the norm for obvious reasons.Even today interracial love is controversial.
Lincoln is pur emyth now. He suppportd the original 13th Amendment to keep slavry forever! He was no abolitionist, I agree
I'm not making accusations & said "If I'm wrong, I apologise". Why? Rape was common
Harriet Ann Jacobs; "breeder" slaves were women they bought to make kids to sell. Willaim Wells Brown talks about too in his work (these were slaves). Jefferson & Sally Hemmings, but this was a daily reality on the Middle Passage, on plantations
Almost all did it & as long as it was not in the open, no one cared. Maybe urs were exceptions, which wasn't common. Slavery was a crime against humanity
@EBanonymous yes rape was common. Rape is common today and I doubt many of the victims today are slaves. Rape was common thousands of years ago and probably many of the victims then were slaves. And yes rape is evil. But not every slave owner raped their slaves and not every slave owner was evil. That was the point I wanted to make.
Not all slaveowners raped - true - but it was a primary aspect of slavery, and the rates were high (far higher than now) & even those not directly doing it were promoting it. There is no such thing as a "good" salveowner any more than there is a good rapist, thief or concentration camp guard. Just because some didn't beat or torture their property as much, didn't make it better. To make it better, you end it & free your slave.
That's bullshit, ya'll should move to america. Or start throwing tea off of boats.That's what we did when the British tried to control are cash flow. Not that that has anything to do with media anyways but you belgians, and germans should blame it on england.
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luvlydragon121 2 months ago in playlist National Geographic Top Videos of 2009
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2:30 bottom right ... Open to the public to come and experience.. But not before visiting McDonalds! lol
NomoTheDomo 11 months ago
Slavery was around LONG before America was created. But, it was the first country to do away with it. So quitcher bitchin'.
kucoru16 1 year ago
@kucoru16 actually the UK was before America
Vivaespana238 1 year ago
@Vivaespana238 yeah I know, but telling the American idiots that they were first makes them complain less about it.
kucoru16 1 year ago
@Vivaespana238 haha nice
Vivaespana238 1 year ago
@ shatros and EBanonymous lol at epic comment battle 7 months long. wow.
penny879 1 year ago
ILLUMINATI!
runescrule 1 year ago
AHHH free mason! end of the world! NWO! NWO! ILLUMINITI!
papo352 1 year ago
President Washington was, is and always will be a hero, statesman and the father of our country. He was a good man who did great things. You obviously do not get the point and so there is no sense talking about this further. I have said my piece and will not respond further.
shatros 1 year ago
My grandmother was a racist. She simply did not know any better. Being a racist did not make he evil. She was the kindest gentlest person I ever met and the great great granddaughter of a slave
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros She died without knowing her ancestry. And she also was not evil. She was simply the product of her times. And George Washington was still the father of our country and still deserves the title.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros
& this is the point. All slaveowners engaged - directly or indirectly - in the killing of people. Why? B/C supporting an industry that goes to Africa, robs people, forces them to work & then uses them for generations means that those who bought sugar & those who were on ships were involved. Many chose not to be.
Owning slaves is wrong, whether you inherit them or get them yourself. If we excuse saying "product of the times" then so were the nazis & then why not excuse them too?
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Not for nothing but slavery was a worldwide occurance. All throughout history men sought to enslave other men. It was started in Africa, and it died in the US. I think people need to wake up and realize the people who sold slaves were the same ethnicity as the slaves, and procured their "product" by attacking and pillaging local villages. One might also argue slavery is still alive and kicking in middle eastern women, except instead of men enslaving men, it's men enslaving wives.
shamz0rz 1 year ago
@shamz0rz
"it started in Africa". No, slavery did not begin there. Strange how HIV, slavery & everything else began with blacks. But when it comes to the pyramids, maths (pythagorean theorem), history (Herodotus) or even medicine, few people admit those Greeks copied from Egypt. They also tell myths: that Egypt was white. See Martin Bernal's work on this.
Slavery did not "die" in the US, and continues today in US prisons & places in Asia. U ignore the fact the Europeans demanded slaves cont -
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Who the hell is "they" and why should I take up a position defending the boogeymen in your head? I never said anything about greece, arabs, or any of that crap. I stated the simple fact that slavery started in africa, which you rehashed when you said it began in egypt. All human discovery and progress is modified from another discovery, it's how we move on as a species. Of course Egypt was an astonishing society, who did great things, but also kept massive slave populations to
shamz0rz 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Oh, and as for your comment of slavery in prisons... there are problems with our justice system, mostly with minor non-violent/drug charges getting ridiculous sentences. However, I was taught when I was 18 that it was time to grow up and act like an adult, and given a proper example of how to do so. Many of the men in those prisons simply never grew up and couldn't intigrate into the working world, perhaps due to 70% single mother rate in the black community.
shamz0rz 1 year ago
@shamz0rz
You misunderstand. "you" refers to the absurd version of history taught in the US & some of Europe ie slavery began in Egypt (with blacks) & Greece was the "cradle f civilisation". Both have similar roots in white supremacy, and niether has any evidence to back it up.
Slavery may have begun in Egypt, Babylon or in some village further east. Wed don't know. It's wrong to blame Africans. And some people in US media specifically target the victims & blame them. That's common.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@shamz0rz
You're correct poverty is one of the major causes of the drugs problem. But whites and blacks have similar rates, and blacks well...7 blacks in jail for every white. I think 3 Latinos for every white. The reason why there're so many single mothers isn't "responsibility". It's because the majority of black men between 20-35 have been in jail.
The 94 crime bill has a lot to do with it. 2.3 million is the largest prison ever. But why so many black men do self destructive behaviour? cont
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@shamz0rz 3 cont-
Because they're few opportunities for blacks. They were kept in virtual slavery til after WW2, had a brief respite, and now receive the blame for much of society's ills. Douglas Blackmon won the Pulitzer for Slavery by Another Name on this topic. He's right.
And when federal housing made mortgages available round WW2, less than 1% went to non-white (about). That's why blacks live in ghettos & whites don't. Jim Crow. The UN says "de facto segregation". it's easy to say "mature"
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Look I'm not gonna argue with you about slavery or anything of the sort. You're trying to bait me into going against black people when I have no problem with them or any other type of people. I simply wanted to point out that your opinion on history is very skewed. Besides, your greece arguement is based on greek philosophy, not greek architecture. Greek philosophy DID create modern society, it made its way through rome, through britain, and continues to be studied today.
shamz0rz 1 year ago
@shamz0rz
No, you're too cynical. I think you made valid points on the prison stuff. I'm not saying these things to "catch you out" or call u a racist or something. Maybe ur black for all I know? I'm saying there is 0 evidence to say slavery began in Africa. & u have none. Evidence shows that advanced maths, medicine, etc predate the Greeks & those they claim started it all studied in Egypt.
Some govt/language influence, but most is fabrication. 1500+ yrs before "Greece", others did it.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@shamz0rz
cont - from the early 15th century the Europeans were in Africa & forced villages to hand over slaves. They armed their enemies when they refused, and the Europeans had guns. What could Africans do? That included the Church - directly.
That version u tell mythology ie the Greeks began civilisation or Africans were the inventors of slavery. Stop repeating Rush Limbaugh:
Africans had indentured servitude, not chatte slavery. Arabs in 6th C brough it to Africa; Europe in the 15th.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous carry out their progress. I dunno where you got Rush Limbaugh from, I'm a pretty liberal guy and have seemingly listened to him less than you since you can quote him. Also, criticizm of the church is not going to get under my skin, I got over religion when I hit the age of rational thought. As for europeans warring Africans, I'm not european. But civilization has warred since its inception and will continue to do so until its demise. You can't single out one people, all have warred.
shamz0rz 1 year ago
Just because slavery is evil does not make the slave owners all evil. Killing is evil. But that does not mean that everyone who has killed is evil. racism is evil but that does not mean every racist is or was evil.
shatros 1 year ago
You absolutely cannot hold any man of the 18th century to the moral standards of the 21st century. If you like, we can discuss the shortcommings of the various civil rights leaders. I could drag a lot of things out of their closets.
shatros 1 year ago
George Washington was only 11 years old when he inherited 10 of his father's slaves. He was born into a world in which the ownership of slaves was considered normal and even right just like the world my ancestor was born into it.
shatros 1 year ago
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shatros 1 year ago
oh, and while we are on the topic, are you aware that MLK has more than one plantation owner in his family tree? My original comment stands.
shatros 1 year ago
How disgraceful that a video which is about George Washington is titled "President's Day" when the actual name of this holiday is George Washington's Birthday! There is in fact no such thing as "President's Day." Nixon tried unsuccessfully to have his birthday changed to honor other presidents. NO other person but Washington is worthy of a holiday in this country. He is the father of our nation and you would all do well to remember it.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros
Well while you spout off about "honouring" him, ask yourself what you're saying.
A man who had a SLAVE plantation(not a "farm") where blacks were held & forced to work. Many ran away, like Harry, Oney Judge & Hercules later on. He tried to recapture them. When you talk about building a country, it was the slaves who did the manual labour, not the rich white men who owned the slaves & supportd slavery
Slaves didn't honour him like YOU do. WOnder why??? Crimes against humanity maybe
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous One of my ancestors owned the largest plantation in the territory of Florida. He had numerous slaves. Some of them African. Some of them native American. I am decended not only from him but also two of his slaves. I honor him because he is my ancestor.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros His father was a notorious pirate but because he is my ancestor, I honor him as well. We honor great men of the past not for their shortcommings but for their accomplishments. Were it not for George Washington's leadership, we would likely not have won the revolution and you would be bowing to a white queen right now instead of having a black president.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros
Well - correct me if I'm wrong - but you're saying that a slave owner took advantage of you're ancestors wh were slaves, as like in what Jefferson did w/ Sally Hemmings? You mean rape? Cause that what it sounds like you're saying, and if I'm wrong I sincerely apologise.
You honour a person who did that? That was really common, but I owning people, raping them & having a descendent honour the person who did those crimes makes no sense to me. I didn't honour my dad when he beat my mom.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Actually, the slave was owned first by his father. He then in turn inherited the slave who he had fallen in love with as a boy. They could not legally marry. he had a house built for her and gave her servants. They had about 12 children together. At the time it was not legal for him to set her or their children free.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros He entrusted her with the management of two of his plantations and his sons by her were plantation supervisors. All were given large sums of money. I have some of those silver coins. When she died he married another of his slaves who was Native American. By this time it was legal for him to marry a slave but only if she was Native American. All his grandchildren eventually inherited shares of the plantations that he owned, when it was legal for them to do so.
shatros 1 year ago
@EBanonymous You are wrong. My ancestor was in love with a slave girl his father owned. It was illegal in Florida at the time for him to marry her. When his father died he inherited her. They had 12 children together.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros After she died he fell in love with another slave, a Native American. With her he had more children. He had no other children. All his grandchildren eventually inherited shares of his plantations.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros he was born into a slave owning family and raised to believe that was the way the world worked. She was born a slave and raised to believe that was the way the world worked. They made the most of what they were given. She died a free woman and no Lincoln had nothing to do with it.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros There is more to history than sound bites in politically correct speeches given by polititcians looking for your vote or rabble rousers trying to revise that history. I sugest you actually read some before you start making acusations.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros
I too hate sound bites & I won't even start on PC. I only know what you tell me about these individuals. Slavery was a complicated system & slave marriages weren't allowed. So there were some people who did adopt a slave girl & treat her like a wife; that's not unheard of, but it wasn't the norm for obvious reasons.Even today interracial love is controversial.
Lincoln is pur emyth now. He suppportd the original 13th Amendment to keep slavry forever! He was no abolitionist, I agree
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@shatros
I'm not making accusations & said "If I'm wrong, I apologise". Why? Rape was common
Harriet Ann Jacobs; "breeder" slaves were women they bought to make kids to sell. Willaim Wells Brown talks about too in his work (these were slaves). Jefferson & Sally Hemmings, but this was a daily reality on the Middle Passage, on plantations
Almost all did it & as long as it was not in the open, no one cared. Maybe urs were exceptions, which wasn't common. Slavery was a crime against humanity
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous yes rape was common. Rape is common today and I doubt many of the victims today are slaves. Rape was common thousands of years ago and probably many of the victims then were slaves. And yes rape is evil. But not every slave owner raped their slaves and not every slave owner was evil. That was the point I wanted to make.
shatros 1 year ago
@shatros
Not all slaveowners raped - true - but it was a primary aspect of slavery, and the rates were high (far higher than now) & even those not directly doing it were promoting it. There is no such thing as a "good" salveowner any more than there is a good rapist, thief or concentration camp guard. Just because some didn't beat or torture their property as much, didn't make it better. To make it better, you end it & free your slave.
There is no good in stealing people & using them.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
lol yeah slave quater maybe he and family was more sinister than people seem to think.
mycurse333 1 year ago
did washington eat mcdonals 200 years ago, becuse is one nearby to is farm lol
bigfatwhit7 1 year ago
a slave quarter ...... hmmmmmmm....
magicstorm1 2 years ago
Wow, 2:28. Even at George Washington's childhood home there is a McDonald's near by. Look in the distance.
meANDdrumming 2 years ago 2
@meANDdrumming you won
stinkino 1 year ago
I Culd Care Less :-p
kthaexxxquisite1 2 years ago
1:31 - Mcdonalds in the background..... Now I'm hungry :)
Areumah 2 years ago
Good eyes. You wouldn't have noticed unless you were bored haha!
fingerboy18 2 years ago
& belgians like me :(
i hate it
DisorderedYouth 2 years ago
That's bullshit, ya'll should move to america. Or start throwing tea off of boats.That's what we did when the British tried to control are cash flow. Not that that has anything to do with media anyways but you belgians, and germans should blame it on england.
snwboar73 2 years ago
80% of The Video are Blocked for Germans like me :(
TounesChannel 2 years ago
And Aussies like me. What's up with that?
iSambam 2 years ago
most of the newer videos are blocked in Qatar
ikangorengmantep 2 years ago
i'm canadian , and its blocked for me too it suck so much .
addictedtochaos666 2 years ago
@addictedtochaos666 wats blocked?
kthaexxxquisite1 2 years ago
first?
doboy 2 years ago