I like the fact that ManBuggle only showed the "good" parts. All energy conversion processes are associated with energy losses. The highest losses occur when chemical energy (coal, oil, natural gas, or hydrogen) is converted to physical energy (electricity, motion, pressure) in power plants or internal combustion engines. Those losses can be far below 50 percent.
A small car requires about 80hp to run which is about 59.6kw of power. In other words u need 59.6kw of power from ur batteries to run on electric motor and u need alot of batteries for that.
Yeah but then you need all those batteries to perform the electrolysis...turning you into a mini-Hindenburg. Why not just use electricity DIRECTLY to power your vehicle. You are wasting potential energy in the electrolysis process.
DAM PEOPLE READ AND LEARN HHO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 100 YRS SO IS WOOD GAS /// TO NAY SAYERS READ WATCH LEARN // BEFORE TYPE OR SPEAK I REALLY DISLIKE LEAVING NEGATIVE COMMENTS // SEVERAL HHO GENERATORS ARE PATENTED ALL MODERN COUNTRIES WENT WITH GASOLINE AS PRIMARY FUEL BECAUSE EASY TO TAX AND CONTROL // DECADES AGO
AND FOR GROWTH IF WE ALL HAD CARS LAST 50 YRS HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE OUT WORK
SAME WITH SOLAR AND WIND POWER HOW WOULD YOU CONTROL OR TAX //
This test was set to fail. 1st electrolisis needs high voltage for regular tap water to spit, or adding electrolite to the water for low voltage electrolisis. They did neither. 2nd. They got 5 small bubbles and claimed it was working, and never considered how much hydrogen they would need to run the car. 3rd. They didn't check to see if the device would only improve MPG, running WITH gas. 4th they didn't re-examine any of thier work for mistakes. Mythbustsers NEVER run test like this till now!!!
Never tried this, accidentally stumbled upon one of these videos, not sure how, but for something that SEEMS as simple as putting electrodes into a jug of water to produce this kind of fuel, is amazing.. I'm sure it's not cheap to build that, but are Hydrogen engined cars really worth 2 million dollars? O_o
@Tekne3k I buit 2 for less than $50 total. One for my bike, one for my truck. I don't have a set economy goal. I get what ever I can get, and work toward making it better the next time. You can check my vids
@wcemichael sounds like you arent use'ing 316L electrodes.. = wont last very long.. 316L is the proven only thing beside platinum that wont corrode . anything else will become part of the water. :-\
3mm thick 4x4 inch 316L plate is around $20 a piece
My drycells have to be cleaned once a year and changed out every 4 to 5.. coil cells = you might get 6 months :-( stay away from thin electrodes
@wcemichael well, plates, 2 ends, 2 bolts/nuts, a hose barb aint to expensive. the plate though, 316L or nothing, cheap or not the cell lasting time is what ppl pay for.
My 4 " cube drycell was $140 (11 plate) for a look into things it was worth it. no car running on it or nothing, but 1.5 litre a minute turned out just enough to run my 20cc 4stroke weed eater engine. Next step buy another
@Me102288 I hate to argue with a fellow HHO user, but your half right. " the cell lasting time is what ppl pay for." The people who have money, and want to go all out. Yea, sure. The people who are curious and want to get thier feet wet with this are trying out my design, A plate chang only takes five min. and if the replacement cost is only $1 then the have been like, "yea, I can do that!" AND more importantly, the cost pays for itself in one tank of gas.
@wcemichael your not arguing, thats exactly what I mean, and as long as you tell them its just for learning and wont last long they'll buy it for that..
then again, just learning I'd recommend 2 paperclips and a 9v battery. then learn how to make a drycell :-)
@Me102288 You and I understand it really good though. I have "my truck runs on water" writen in my back window. Most people think I'm kidding, or don't care. About 10 times this year, people have approached me and asked "is this true?" then I pop the hood and show them, and everytime they are like "holy shit, it's that easy?" so once they understand it better they will be eager to learn more. So, in short. I'm breaking in the new believers, which is what we both want.
@wcemichael ha, I got all my buddies on the drag strip asking how much I would charge to biuld one for theyre car so they can get rid of the nitrous oxide systems :-o thats somthing I really didn't expect at all
And some of these guys been into drag racing 40 + years.. I guess the oil company was doing a good job of "prooving" the stuff cant work.. Only took one 1/4 mile run before they started asking me why my tailpipe is spitting water.. gotta lol
@wcemichael well if its a carbourater you just hose it into the intake any lean out the gasoline till it purs..
gonna have to retard the ignition till it stops backfiring to.. it burns 9x faster then gasoline, you gotta make sure the intake is fully closed before.. and just in case, please use a flash arester.. lol we ARE dealing with one of the most explosive fuels on the planet :-)
@LimitlessAeon619 Check out my channel. I can show you how to build one for less than $30, if your a smart shopper. If your willing to have an open mind about it and do regular MPG calculations, you'll see for yourself if it works or not. Of course your results my vary on what kind of vehicle you trying it out on.
I don't understand what you're yelling about, but you may wanna consider repairing your keyboard before you reply. Quit trolling and come up with something that makes sense next time.
Check out my channel, My bike and truck run on water as a secondary fuel to increase MPG. Mytherbusters usualy start small and work their way up. This test they went for broke and tried to totaly run on water alone, and only made one attempt, then proudly claimed "myth busted". Well, for professionals with unlimited money, they were beaten by me, an amature who's alway broke. My bike has less than $20 invested in this. My truck just has one extra part. Watch my vids and see if I'm wrong
You're a fucking idiot. Put up the rest of the video where it didn't work. You might want to look into this little thing called the Law of Conservation of Energy. It takes more energy to create the electricity to split the water than the resulting hydrogen gives you. "Energy cannot be created or destroyed", you are just converting electrical energy to chemical energy to combustion, and losing some more energy along the way.
@kovu159 why don't you, instead, try to figure what would happen if the mythbusters had a cell producing more hydrogen than the one they actually did? as, for example, seen in this video: watch?v=-WsKOdxLIJU
fucken look up Stan Meyers u ass.. it is possible but we have to find out why the mythbusters didn't do the full research, just create a halfass hydrogen fuel cell and discredit the project.
@shadowemc i know how the technology works i am just starting to build. i hope to have a full non patented kit for people to buy or build if they wish to run on only hho and water mist.oh and i have researched meyers for 5 years now and it took me 5 years to understand meyers technology so someone cant just do a week of research and make it happen. and anyone that says it doesnt work is no better then the myth busters.
what?? its not possible to break the laws of thermodynamics, therefore a system that is able to create more energy than is put into it would break the laws of thermodynamics, and couldn't possibly exist. Anyone who has taken introductory physics courses would know this.
@thenextbigone Nothing like a self limiting philosophy. When the world was flat the sun passed over head and was swallowed by a dragon that spat it out next morning like clockwork. See so anyone who theorized the world was round was automatically an heretic..Are you one of those?
you make no sense the people who claimed the world was flat believed so through faith and only what their eyes could see. The ones that said differently knew so through science and experimentation. Using an HHO generator powered by your car to increase gas mileage doesn't work and never will work, and anyone who claims it does is wrong, simple as that. The generator is using energy that your engine makes to create HHO as a supplement to the gas.
If you were to get better gas milage it would mean that somehow more energy is now being introduced into the system that what was previously being put in. which would mean more energy was extracted in the form of HHO than what was put in to make it. Right their you void a law of thermodynamics. You cant make more energy than you put in, in fact you will always make less. The HHO generator gets hot, heat is a form of energy right their you are loosing energy, etc.
To compare the laws of thermodynamics to people who once thought the world was flat is laughable and shows an extreme lack of intelligence. The laws are provable and demonstrable in multiple rigorous ways, and as i said before the people who thought the world was flat only believed so because of only what their eye could see and not through any experimentation.
@thenextbigone That's where you loose the trail when you WONT venture to conceive that the "laws" of thermodynamics apply to what we "their eye could see" in terms of what limits contemporary physics insists are the limits based on the laws they are aware of. l have built a Bedini generator and seen it produce energy over and above what it consumed..
A person like yourself would never even consider doing that because you obey the "law" Funny thing is you have the gaul to call me unintelligent.
lol as a student going into the field a physics, when I read comments like yours its somewhat funny, it shows little understanding to how things work. If you were to tell my physics professor that you created a device which was able to output more energy than what was put in he would laugh and dismiss you. Please tell me where this extra energy is coming from and how you managed to defeat ALL energy loss due to all other forces, because you obviously deserve the Nobel prize
@thenextbigone Guys like yoo work from a pre conceived notion. You dont think for yourselves, l built a vapor carb that ran an a car on 120MPG why did l build it ? because l didnt let people tell me it "must be impossible" The principle of the Bedini generator which l built is wrapped in the utilization of a principle of magnetism which is used to an advantage.The principle is not a secret, however, the utilization, is not a part of commonly understood methods of electrical generation.
@thenextbigone l will bet you have no idea what principle of electro magnetism l am referring to since you have not bothered to investigate or attempt to understand the operation of the Bedini generator. You consider it an impossibility based on what you understand, That is the hallmark of a closed mind and a stunted intelligence.
Let me know when you can discuss and judge his technology from a point of understanding. Your pompous all knowing stuffed shirt nonsense is amusing though.
yea those internet fuel cells don't work. the link above is a ripoff. they don't even show the end of the episode when they deemed internet fuel cells a myth.
@mikev692004 fucken look up Stan Meyers u ass.. it is possible but we have to find out why the mythbusters didn't do the full research, just create a halfass hydrogen fuel cell and discredit the project.
exactly! the generator works but its effectivity is crap. It does not count wether there are many bubbles if the energy you need for that could run the car itself..
I like the fact that ManBuggle only showed the "good" parts. All energy conversion processes are associated with energy losses. The highest losses occur when chemical energy (coal, oil, natural gas, or hydrogen) is converted to physical energy (electricity, motion, pressure) in power plants or internal combustion engines. Those losses can be far below 50 percent.
phazttraxx1980 2 weeks ago
this method is a dead end, there really is a water powered car but us consumers arent allowed to use it
MrROTD 3 weeks ago
y havnt i seen lots of thess cliips in a show?
kyledaman22 1 month ago
A small car requires about 80hp to run which is about 59.6kw of power. In other words u need 59.6kw of power from ur batteries to run on electric motor and u need alot of batteries for that.
AfghanKnight007 1 month ago
@AfghanKnight007 batteries are a dead end, future cars will run on nothing but water
MrROTD 3 weeks ago
@Hopeful71
AfghanKnight007 1 month ago
Yeah but then you need all those batteries to perform the electrolysis...turning you into a mini-Hindenburg. Why not just use electricity DIRECTLY to power your vehicle. You are wasting potential energy in the electrolysis process.
Hopeful71 1 month ago
if only you continued the clip and it showed how it actually doesn't work
CashMoneyHero7 2 months ago
@CashMoneyHero7 The mythbusters faild the experiment, they got 5 things wrong. and think they successfully tested it.
wcemichael 2 months ago
DAM PEOPLE READ AND LEARN HHO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 100 YRS SO IS WOOD GAS /// TO NAY SAYERS READ WATCH LEARN // BEFORE TYPE OR SPEAK I REALLY DISLIKE LEAVING NEGATIVE COMMENTS // SEVERAL HHO GENERATORS ARE PATENTED ALL MODERN COUNTRIES WENT WITH GASOLINE AS PRIMARY FUEL BECAUSE EASY TO TAX AND CONTROL // DECADES AGO
AND FOR GROWTH IF WE ALL HAD CARS LAST 50 YRS HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE OUT WORK
SAME WITH SOLAR AND WIND POWER HOW WOULD YOU CONTROL OR TAX //
TIGHTWADHERMAN 3 months ago
This test was set to fail. 1st electrolisis needs high voltage for regular tap water to spit, or adding electrolite to the water for low voltage electrolisis. They did neither. 2nd. They got 5 small bubbles and claimed it was working, and never considered how much hydrogen they would need to run the car. 3rd. They didn't check to see if the device would only improve MPG, running WITH gas. 4th they didn't re-examine any of thier work for mistakes. Mythbustsers NEVER run test like this till now!!!
wcemichael 3 months ago
too bad it doesn't work :)
cappiman2pointoh 4 months ago
Never tried this, accidentally stumbled upon one of these videos, not sure how, but for something that SEEMS as simple as putting electrodes into a jug of water to produce this kind of fuel, is amazing.. I'm sure it's not cheap to build that, but are Hydrogen engined cars really worth 2 million dollars? O_o
LimitlessAeon619 4 months ago
@LimitlessAeon619 These devices cost about 400-1000 depending on the size of your engine and efficiency you want.
Tekne3k 3 months ago
@Tekne3k I buit 2 for less than $50 total. One for my bike, one for my truck. I don't have a set economy goal. I get what ever I can get, and work toward making it better the next time. You can check my vids
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael sounds like you arent use'ing 316L electrodes.. = wont last very long.. 316L is the proven only thing beside platinum that wont corrode . anything else will become part of the water. :-\
3mm thick 4x4 inch 316L plate is around $20 a piece
My drycells have to be cleaned once a year and changed out every 4 to 5.. coil cells = you might get 6 months :-( stay away from thin electrodes
Me102288 2 months ago
@Me10228 my units are so cheap to build, replacement parts are a dime a dozen. I ran my truck unit all summer and replaced the only worn part for $1
wcemichael 2 months ago
@wcemichael well, plates, 2 ends, 2 bolts/nuts, a hose barb aint to expensive. the plate though, 316L or nothing, cheap or not the cell lasting time is what ppl pay for.
My 4 " cube drycell was $140 (11 plate) for a look into things it was worth it. no car running on it or nothing, but 1.5 litre a minute turned out just enough to run my 20cc 4stroke weed eater engine. Next step buy another
or buy on at least 3x the size lol
Me102288 2 months ago
@Me102288 I hate to argue with a fellow HHO user, but your half right. " the cell lasting time is what ppl pay for." The people who have money, and want to go all out. Yea, sure. The people who are curious and want to get thier feet wet with this are trying out my design, A plate chang only takes five min. and if the replacement cost is only $1 then the have been like, "yea, I can do that!" AND more importantly, the cost pays for itself in one tank of gas.
wcemichael 2 months ago
@wcemichael your not arguing, thats exactly what I mean, and as long as you tell them its just for learning and wont last long they'll buy it for that..
then again, just learning I'd recommend 2 paperclips and a 9v battery. then learn how to make a drycell :-)
Me102288 2 months ago
@Me102288 You and I understand it really good though. I have "my truck runs on water" writen in my back window. Most people think I'm kidding, or don't care. About 10 times this year, people have approached me and asked "is this true?" then I pop the hood and show them, and everytime they are like "holy shit, it's that easy?" so once they understand it better they will be eager to learn more. So, in short. I'm breaking in the new believers, which is what we both want.
wcemichael 2 months ago
@wcemichael ha, I got all my buddies on the drag strip asking how much I would charge to biuld one for theyre car so they can get rid of the nitrous oxide systems :-o thats somthing I really didn't expect at all
And some of these guys been into drag racing 40 + years.. I guess the oil company was doing a good job of "prooving" the stuff cant work.. Only took one 1/4 mile run before they started asking me why my tailpipe is spitting water.. gotta lol
Me102288 2 months ago
@Me102288 I was thinking about seeing if our local race track would start a hydrogen demo, starting with maybe a moped and radar gun.
wcemichael 2 months ago
@wcemichael well if its a carbourater you just hose it into the intake any lean out the gasoline till it purs..
gonna have to retard the ignition till it stops backfiring to.. it burns 9x faster then gasoline, you gotta make sure the intake is fully closed before.. and just in case, please use a flash arester.. lol we ARE dealing with one of the most explosive fuels on the planet :-)
Me102288 2 months ago
@LimitlessAeon619 Check out my channel. I can show you how to build one for less than $30, if your a smart shopper. If your willing to have an open mind about it and do regular MPG calculations, you'll see for yourself if it works or not. Of course your results my vary on what kind of vehicle you trying it out on.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@LimitlessAeon619 SO WAS FIRST GAS CAR
TIGHTWADHERMAN 3 months ago
@TIGHTWADHERMAN
I don't understand what you're yelling about, but you may wanna consider repairing your keyboard before you reply. Quit trolling and come up with something that makes sense next time.
LimitlessAeon619 3 months ago
@LimitlessAeon619 You can try my building my units for less than $30 apiece. try it out yourself. check my vids.
wcemichael 2 months ago
Full of idiots here too...
johnymetalman2002 5 months ago
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MrBlueWalrus 7 months ago
Check out my channel, My bike and truck run on water as a secondary fuel to increase MPG. Mytherbusters usualy start small and work their way up. This test they went for broke and tried to totaly run on water alone, and only made one attempt, then proudly claimed "myth busted". Well, for professionals with unlimited money, they were beaten by me, an amature who's alway broke. My bike has less than $20 invested in this. My truck just has one extra part. Watch my vids and see if I'm wrong
wcemichael 8 months ago
welp if myth busters say its not staged then its true
chamblizi 8 months ago
A car power by Hydrogen does work, the mythbusters has got it wrong, I've build my own Hydrogen car and it's works.
Carruthers1980 11 months ago
@Carruthers1980 you suppliment or run on only hho or hydrogen or is there a chemical reaction
h2oplasmaplug 10 months ago
You're a fucking idiot. Put up the rest of the video where it didn't work. You might want to look into this little thing called the Law of Conservation of Energy. It takes more energy to create the electricity to split the water than the resulting hydrogen gives you. "Energy cannot be created or destroyed", you are just converting electrical energy to chemical energy to combustion, and losing some more energy along the way.
kovu159 1 year ago
@kovu159 why don't you, instead, try to figure what would happen if the mythbusters had a cell producing more hydrogen than the one they actually did? as, for example, seen in this video: watch?v=-WsKOdxLIJU
jum401 1 year ago
fucken look up Stan Meyers u ass.. it is possible but we have to find out why the mythbusters didn't do the full research, just create a halfass hydrogen fuel cell and discredit the project.
shadowemc 1 year ago
@shadowemc i know how the technology works i am just starting to build. i hope to have a full non patented kit for people to buy or build if they wish to run on only hho and water mist.oh and i have researched meyers for 5 years now and it took me 5 years to understand meyers technology so someone cant just do a week of research and make it happen. and anyone that says it doesnt work is no better then the myth busters.
h2oplasmaplug 10 months ago
@h2oplasmaplug
conservation of energy. If a HHO fuel cell did work to power a car. then the law of conservation of energy isn't true (which we know is not possible)
thenextbigone 8 months ago
@thenextbigone
How do you know that it isn't possible?
Breaking laws and not being possible is a totally different thing.
SlipAllCityToy 8 months ago
@SlipAllCityToy
what?? its not possible to break the laws of thermodynamics, therefore a system that is able to create more energy than is put into it would break the laws of thermodynamics, and couldn't possibly exist. Anyone who has taken introductory physics courses would know this.
thenextbigone 8 months ago
@thenextbigone Nothing like a self limiting philosophy. When the world was flat the sun passed over head and was swallowed by a dragon that spat it out next morning like clockwork. See so anyone who theorized the world was round was automatically an heretic..Are you one of those?
PsychoSpammer 5 months ago
@PsychoSpammer
you make no sense the people who claimed the world was flat believed so through faith and only what their eyes could see. The ones that said differently knew so through science and experimentation. Using an HHO generator powered by your car to increase gas mileage doesn't work and never will work, and anyone who claims it does is wrong, simple as that. The generator is using energy that your engine makes to create HHO as a supplement to the gas.
thenextbigone 5 months ago
@PsychoSpammer
If you were to get better gas milage it would mean that somehow more energy is now being introduced into the system that what was previously being put in. which would mean more energy was extracted in the form of HHO than what was put in to make it. Right their you void a law of thermodynamics. You cant make more energy than you put in, in fact you will always make less. The HHO generator gets hot, heat is a form of energy right their you are loosing energy, etc.
thenextbigone 5 months ago
@PsychoSpammer
To compare the laws of thermodynamics to people who once thought the world was flat is laughable and shows an extreme lack of intelligence. The laws are provable and demonstrable in multiple rigorous ways, and as i said before the people who thought the world was flat only believed so because of only what their eye could see and not through any experimentation.
thenextbigone 5 months ago
@thenextbigone That's where you loose the trail when you WONT venture to conceive that the "laws" of thermodynamics apply to what we "their eye could see" in terms of what limits contemporary physics insists are the limits based on the laws they are aware of. l have built a Bedini generator and seen it produce energy over and above what it consumed..
A person like yourself would never even consider doing that because you obey the "law" Funny thing is you have the gaul to call me unintelligent.
PsychoSpammer 5 months ago
@PsychoSpammer
lol as a student going into the field a physics, when I read comments like yours its somewhat funny, it shows little understanding to how things work. If you were to tell my physics professor that you created a device which was able to output more energy than what was put in he would laugh and dismiss you. Please tell me where this extra energy is coming from and how you managed to defeat ALL energy loss due to all other forces, because you obviously deserve the Nobel prize
thenextbigone 5 months ago
@thenextbigone Guys like yoo work from a pre conceived notion. You dont think for yourselves, l built a vapor carb that ran an a car on 120MPG why did l build it ? because l didnt let people tell me it "must be impossible" The principle of the Bedini generator which l built is wrapped in the utilization of a principle of magnetism which is used to an advantage.The principle is not a secret, however, the utilization, is not a part of commonly understood methods of electrical generation.
PsychoSpammer 5 months ago
@thenextbigone l will bet you have no idea what principle of electro magnetism l am referring to since you have not bothered to investigate or attempt to understand the operation of the Bedini generator. You consider it an impossibility based on what you understand, That is the hallmark of a closed mind and a stunted intelligence.
Let me know when you can discuss and judge his technology from a point of understanding. Your pompous all knowing stuffed shirt nonsense is amusing though.
PsychoSpammer 5 months ago
yea those internet fuel cells don't work. the link above is a ripoff. they don't even show the end of the episode when they deemed internet fuel cells a myth.
mikev692004 1 year ago
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@mikev692004 fucken look up Stan Meyers u ass.. it is possible but we have to find out why the mythbusters didn't do the full research, just create a halfass hydrogen fuel cell and discredit the project.
shadowemc 1 year ago
didnt da hydrogen generator not work and the car blow up
seanjwang 2 years ago
exactly! the generator works but its effectivity is crap. It does not count wether there are many bubbles if the energy you need for that could run the car itself..
FateMaster2 2 years ago