The idea is to get there, so you'll get what you want soon enough.
But single payer is not a good idea, it doesn't work.
That's why even those coutnries that are suggested to have the best health care in the world with UHC have some sort of payment system. Switzerland definetly has the best health care in Europe, and guess what, they have a market probably more free than that of the US.
I dont think the Republicans consider themselves conservatives any longer. For example, Colin Powell's support for Obama last year. The party is split between true conservatives and the religious right (i am not going to use the term "Christian", cause they are far from it.
This not at all meant to be argumentative. Who do conservatives consider a "True Conservative"? Based on record it certainly can't Sarah Palin as Mayor or Governor, or T-Paw, Huck, Sanford, Jindal, Ensign, Barber or Cantor As I'm sure you know conservatives recently issued a 10-point check list gauging adherence to core principles that the RNC is considering. Reagans record failed the test, Palin failed.. they all did. Who is a "True Conservative " in these peoples minds?
Ok, I understand what he is fighting for, but this was not a very good speech. It could have been done better. He was driving the same point over and over and it lost its initial impact. But thats my imho.
What about the people that lie awake every night and think of what they will have to sacrifice just to afford their taxes. Democrats think the answer to everything is tax more and give the government more power. When will they realize government is the problem. Government gets us in wars no one wants. Government wastes more in medicare than any other. Everything the government touches gets destroyed. Why are people so eager to worship the government. Think everything is free but it only is more.
i lie awake and wonder why bachmann, grassly, et al, take taxpayer money in farm subsidies while preaching about big government and socialism. welfare for the rich--trust nobody!
Could not say it better. These GOP hypocrits don´t want socialism when it comes to health care, but rack billions of tax payer´s money to maintain afloat their corn and cotton producers!!!!!
I have never been able to find one person who supports Reid in Nevada. In fact you can drive all over the state and see signs that say "elect anyone BUT Reid". Who knows how he won the election to the senate.
The most populated counties have been voting for him since 1986. After a while people get tired of the same face but he may surprise you and win by a few votes again in 2010. If things get slightly better and Democrats get out to vote against the GOP, that's enough to put him over the top. People sometimes say that they are sick of a certain politician but end up voting for him/her anyways unless the option from the opposite party can really stand out.
The $246 billion the CBO estimated the legislation would save Medicare "can't both finance new programs and help pay future expenses for elderly covered under the federal program," as the current bill has it doing, the budget office said, "Nor could those savings be used to extend the solvency of Medicare, set to run out of money in 2017," Bloomberg reported.
So then Reid, WTF is up the the gigantic health care forced pay bullshit, then, dick? WTF about hr676, that most likely would have passed by the fuck now, your a cunt harry and your little dog Pelosi too, Nuk Nuk NUk.
Great work libs, buy health insurance or go to prison. The hilarious part is that the American public is so ill informed that they think they are getting free health care on Christmas, lol. Can't wait till they wake up from their hangovers on Jan. 2 to find out what they really got, lol.
You are correct in not liking the mandate, but it's not prison, it's IRS fines. Only a slight improvement perhaps. Although I agree with you, im, the mandate is bad, but for different reasons.
It has certainly been wonderful to see what Harry Reid has turned into. He truly has became a lion in the Senate. And compared to Obama, he feels more like a lion than anyone!
harry reid has done a heroic job. blame the republicans and blue dems for the shitty bill, but show him the respect he deserves for continuing the fight for what we need and want.
You guys (like junkforkaryn) forget one big thing about Reid: He kept Dorgan's amendment (on drug re-importation) off the floor for 7 days giving the opposition enough time to work on some Dems for his 60 votes to crash. Yes, Dorgan had 60 votes to screw Pharma! Instead, he did Rahm's bidding. I agree with the TheRamenAvenger...
i haven't forgotten a thing, and theramenavenger and zakdayak are throwing the baby out with the bath water. stop whining and keep pushing for what we can get. if the roles were reversed the repugs would be screaming victory and acting as if they got everything they ever wanted instead of crying and imploding like the dems. show some backbone and a little bit of fucking loyalty--2 things dems have trouble with. the drug thing will be debated in committee--timing is everything, baby.
If you haven't forgotten anything, than why, as a Dem I assume, do you tolerate such behavior? That is not what Dems are supposed to do. Instead, you lionize Reid.
The roles WERE reversed. It was called Medicare Part D that the Reps passed. That's a Federal subsidy to Pharma that the Dems pledged to overeturn. Instead, they're passing a bill with the exact same subsidies, this time for the insurance industry! You wanna WHY the bill sucks? Because they know people like yopu will support it.
And there will be nothing in committee. The Dems will cave or be labled "whiners" - remember you're use of the word? Grijalva already gave in. Nothing big will happen in committee. Obama DOESN'T WANT REFORM.
"Here are all the letters from our constituents asking for single payer or a public option - but we're going to give them crappy mandated private insurance instead, and pretend that was what they wanted!"
Thank you harry! I would like single payer now plz! Walter W. Skain IV
towerdawg1976 2 years ago
Yes. it's about people. So let's have the most efficient system for it. Bring with real reform, not just more government control.
Maybe, just maybe, will they be able to exchange the problem of price for a problem of rationing, more likely is that progress will stop completely.
More government is not reform, more government is going back to the middle ages.
Visfen 2 years ago
Real reform = single payer
jsem94 2 years ago 2
The idea is to get there, so you'll get what you want soon enough.
But single payer is not a good idea, it doesn't work.
That's why even those coutnries that are suggested to have the best health care in the world with UHC have some sort of payment system. Switzerland definetly has the best health care in Europe, and guess what, they have a market probably more free than that of the US.
Visfen 2 years ago
@1:06 good stuff!
icebreaker7 2 years ago
Conservatives are a useful as a used Kleenex.
mintvagoo 2 years ago
I dont think the Republicans consider themselves conservatives any longer. For example, Colin Powell's support for Obama last year. The party is split between true conservatives and the religious right (i am not going to use the term "Christian", cause they are far from it.
Nepenthe070 2 years ago
@Nepenthe070
This not at all meant to be argumentative. Who do conservatives consider a "True Conservative"? Based on record it certainly can't Sarah Palin as Mayor or Governor, or T-Paw, Huck, Sanford, Jindal, Ensign, Barber or Cantor As I'm sure you know conservatives recently issued a 10-point check list gauging adherence to core principles that the RNC is considering. Reagans record failed the test, Palin failed.. they all did. Who is a "True Conservative " in these peoples minds?
mintvagoo 2 years ago
I agree with Reid in principal, but if he really meant what he said, he would have allowed the Dorgan amendment go up for a vote early.
By the way, he also ordered Sanders to withdraw his.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Ok, I understand what he is fighting for, but this was not a very good speech. It could have been done better. He was driving the same point over and over and it lost its initial impact. But thats my imho.
Totaltwist 2 years ago 3
I've made a conversion and feel that government should only legislate policy. Not Mandates or Nanny laws.
Policy: No one should be denied healthcare.
Mandate: Buy healthcare or else
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
What about the people that lie awake every night and think of what they will have to sacrifice just to afford their taxes. Democrats think the answer to everything is tax more and give the government more power. When will they realize government is the problem. Government gets us in wars no one wants. Government wastes more in medicare than any other. Everything the government touches gets destroyed. Why are people so eager to worship the government. Think everything is free but it only is more.
MotionFrequency 2 years ago
i lie awake and wonder why bachmann, grassly, et al, take taxpayer money in farm subsidies while preaching about big government and socialism. welfare for the rich--trust nobody!
junkforkaryn 2 years ago 4
Could not say it better. These GOP hypocrits don´t want socialism when it comes to health care, but rack billions of tax payer´s money to maintain afloat their corn and cotton producers!!!!!
Francebrasil 2 years ago
It's not about worshiping government its about making it better.
After all, government is (should be) by the people and for the people.
We cant entrust our liberties to the corporations as they are by the shareholders and for profit and dont give a fuck about idividual.
Government isnt perfect but at least in theory it is there to defend our liberties..
Our elected reps are corporate servants now, imagine how bad would it be if the corporations were the only rulers of the land...
pwl1980 2 years ago
I have never been able to find one person who supports Reid in Nevada. In fact you can drive all over the state and see signs that say "elect anyone BUT Reid". Who knows how he won the election to the senate.
strawman007 2 years ago
The most populated counties have been voting for him since 1986. After a while people get tired of the same face but he may surprise you and win by a few votes again in 2010. If things get slightly better and Democrats get out to vote against the GOP, that's enough to put him over the top. People sometimes say that they are sick of a certain politician but end up voting for him/her anyways unless the option from the opposite party can really stand out.
oldtownkid 2 years ago
im speachless. jennifer wood (deceased) harry reid (soon to be deceased) obama ( i love that nigger)
Nancy (has hot legs*not*, but isnt worth a shit)
Bill Clinton ( For 2012 )
i love little boys also
rippac86 2 years ago
Are you okay?
p00lman 2 years ago
i hope so.. when the pills waer (dont know how to spell ware down) i get dellusional
rippac86 2 years ago
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The $246 billion the CBO estimated the legislation would save Medicare "can't both finance new programs and help pay future expenses for elderly covered under the federal program," as the current bill has it doing, the budget office said, "Nor could those savings be used to extend the solvency of Medicare, set to run out of money in 2017," Bloomberg reported.
dkkght46 2 years ago
So then Reid, WTF is up the the gigantic health care forced pay bullshit, then, dick? WTF about hr676, that most likely would have passed by the fuck now, your a cunt harry and your little dog Pelosi too, Nuk Nuk NUk.
VeohBlows 2 years ago
do the letters say "i want to slap the shit outta you, harry"
justanothersheeple 2 years ago 2
Fascist socialist deceiver
TheMadronas 2 years ago
How is he fascist? How is he socialist? How is he a deceiver?
Or are you just throwing out any words you can think of?
p00lman 2 years ago
Great work libs, buy health insurance or go to prison. The hilarious part is that the American public is so ill informed that they think they are getting free health care on Christmas, lol. Can't wait till they wake up from their hangovers on Jan. 2 to find out what they really got, lol.
imyoursuperior2 2 years ago
No, just cheaper health care.
fishhead06 2 years ago
You are correct in not liking the mandate, but it's not prison, it's IRS fines. Only a slight improvement perhaps. Although I agree with you, im, the mandate is bad, but for different reasons.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
It has certainly been wonderful to see what Harry Reid has turned into. He truly has became a lion in the Senate. And compared to Obama, he feels more like a lion than anyone!
Jianxzhi 2 years ago
Harry Reid has gotten more backbone lately... I have my criticisms, but here's to him!
Viva Health Care Reform!
Viva Obama!
Viva Harry Reid!
haters be damned!
baronmorris 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Drama queen.
joshpnw 2 years ago
Harry Reid...you da man.. (so far)
ExcellentChild 2 years ago
harry reid has done a heroic job. blame the republicans and blue dems for the shitty bill, but show him the respect he deserves for continuing the fight for what we need and want.
junkforkaryn 2 years ago 10
You guys (like junkforkaryn) forget one big thing about Reid: He kept Dorgan's amendment (on drug re-importation) off the floor for 7 days giving the opposition enough time to work on some Dems for his 60 votes to crash. Yes, Dorgan had 60 votes to screw Pharma! Instead, he did Rahm's bidding. I agree with the TheRamenAvenger...
Zakdayak 2 years ago
i haven't forgotten a thing, and theramenavenger and zakdayak are throwing the baby out with the bath water. stop whining and keep pushing for what we can get. if the roles were reversed the repugs would be screaming victory and acting as if they got everything they ever wanted instead of crying and imploding like the dems. show some backbone and a little bit of fucking loyalty--2 things dems have trouble with. the drug thing will be debated in committee--timing is everything, baby.
junkforkaryn 2 years ago
If you haven't forgotten anything, than why, as a Dem I assume, do you tolerate such behavior? That is not what Dems are supposed to do. Instead, you lionize Reid.
The roles WERE reversed. It was called Medicare Part D that the Reps passed. That's a Federal subsidy to Pharma that the Dems pledged to overeturn. Instead, they're passing a bill with the exact same subsidies, this time for the insurance industry! You wanna WHY the bill sucks? Because they know people like yopu will support it.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
And there will be nothing in committee. The Dems will cave or be labled "whiners" - remember you're use of the word? Grijalva already gave in. Nothing big will happen in committee. Obama DOESN'T WANT REFORM.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Read the whole letter dickhead. If you did you'd see they don't want to be mandated to by Humana, Mutual of Omaha or any ot the other criminals!
Philinspaces 2 years ago
"Here are all the letters from our constituents asking for single payer or a public option - but we're going to give them crappy mandated private insurance instead, and pretend that was what they wanted!"
TheRamenAvenger 2 years ago 9
I like zebra's (Random comment ftw)
Phyrexious 2 years ago