Piano Technique (33B of 38): Arpeggios

[liamleesvirtuoso]

You shouldn't pedal legato argeppios - that's a cheap horrible way. Play the proper classical way and labour your hand correctly to play the arpeggio legato without the need to pedal! Idiot.

[designioonirico]

Great classes... but your G is off-tuned

[NovaMobster]

@JazzPoker - Plenty people here, have criticized the method being used in this video, and that's fair enough. However I think your comment about tuning the piano is out of line. This man has put up 38 chapters of videos teaching piano technique FOR FREE. From what I have watched so far, this guy is leagues ahead of any piano teacher I have had and does so without the snobbery that usually comes with it.

People like Frank here make me want to learn piano, and people like you make me hate it.

[sonofhendrix]

still its amazing that people comment here about their dissagreements and how they would do it better. Its clear if you watch ALL the videos that this man is a piano GENIUS and knows exactly what hes talking about! so i trust him! dont forget we are still at beginner stage,

[saintpine]

@sonofhendrix "its amazing that people comment here about their dissagreements"

Obviously this man is a professional, and he can do it well by jumping, I think it’s a good thing that people comment and criticize, if I had taken this method as the only solution, I would have never tried tucking my thumb under.

I have a workstation and I cannot use the sustain on all sounds, it's taken me maybe 15 hours of practice, and I'm quite satisfied on how it's becoming natural to use my thumb.

[sonofhendrix]

im not an expert but i think its correct for an absolute beginner to use the sustain pedal, because to get rid of the gap, you would need a rather advanced technique to get rid of the gap in timing without the pedal, that is not really for beginners.

[cinematikwoo]

Another good tip that worked for me was to guide the arpeggios leading with my forearm, or elbow, to keep a steady even tempo. That together with turning the arm at the correct angle and moving the thumb quickly under is what makes arpeggios work without a pedal.

[KENNETHCONNEL]

5:15 That was Beautiful, well played!

[gumdrops27]

U shouldnt just excuse the pedal as a way to sustain the notes though. Regardless of the

pedal is on or not, your touch has a lot to do with the sound that comes out. It is unnoticeable usually but it gives it a different musical feel depending on the position of your fingers and where on the key you pressed. Hard to explain in words, its just something u have to tune your ears to notice. Oh and my teacher told me a good way to make easier to play fast is to keep your hands slightly angled in

[mario54671]

Hmm...I thought I commented on this. Anyways, you say "good pianists don't do 'crazy finger gymnastics' to play arpeggios." You're right, they don't. Because eventually their wrist becomes flexible enough to do one where they can turn their thumb under the hand while the rest of the hand doesn't move. Again, flexibility of the wrist. This method would be like trying to tell someone who wants to be able to touch the ground to not keep their legs straight when stretching their hamstrings.

[Achtelnote]

@mrpolaroid123 i think we can stop now.you say watch richter how he plays legato,but he does not ,i can proove that,and you just claim sth. you cant proove.i can give you hundreds of examples where pianists play arpeggios like this guy explain and you cant show me one.

[mrpolaroid123]

Watch Richter play it. In bars 15-17 legato, no lifting, no jumping. At first this appears almost impossible, I practised this 4 many hrs as a student with the given fingering, & eventually it came, & felt very relaxed & natural & gives the effect Chopin intended. To not play this legato defeats the objective of the etude. One of my professors was renowned for playing all the Chopin etudes,without pedal. An eg of gr8 technique and good musicianship.

[mrpolaroid123]

Respond to this video...

A perfect example. The left hand in your op.10 no.12, bars 15-17 you lifted! that should be played legato, your hand should not leave the keyboard. I managed it in my finals.

[raggieful]

@ roploop: I've been playing both piano and guitar for quite some time now. In guitar the physical difficulty is felt usually at the beginning stages; it gradually subdues after you are used to it. Piano, on the other hand, may look physically much less challenging to beginners. However, it is much harder to master; its expressive range and demand for coordination among both hands are much greater than guitar. Without proper technique (u mention tucking thumb), piano on the long run is PAIN!

[franco121760]

Good tips

[the1974prince]

i jus want to say thanks alot for this lesson...can't make everyone happy but this lesson was really useful to me

[raulgomez777]

Very nice video, now I know not to force my self but to just let my body go with the flow. cheers from Mexico

[rockingbuddah]

I found this videos very useful, and logical. i've been triying to play piano for years, and doing it wrong because of bad teachers. Now i understand, how simple it is to play piano. Thanks.

[Roploop]

that was easy, though you exaggeratedly showed the connection haha it was kinda funny though. i can simply pass my thumb through under my hand. I have only played for 4 months, i enjoy playing it but learning to play something is too easy because the chords are so simple. Arpeggios on a guitar to me was maybe 20 times harder than on a piano. And i dont mean the ones you showed cause i dont really consider that Arpeggios it is too easy. but anyways, thanks that kinda helped.

[Kinjutsuu]

@Roploop

lol. I find arpeggios so much harder on piano than guitar. I sweep crazy Jason Becker stuff and did Far Beyond the Sun by Malmsteen ^^ but piano is so much harder to get neat!

[cellovn]

Thank you very much !

I'm a cellist but your videos helped me as well.

Really profound !!!

[pianoologist]

Thanks for asking about Ethel. And don't froget about Fred, either!

This video series is specifically designed to be watched in order to achieve the full effect. For Fred and Ethel to make sense, please visit our youtube channel, go to playlist, and watch the entire technique fundamentals video series, with special emphasis on videos number 1 through 12 and 20 through 37.

Cheers, Frank

[jpage99999]

Once again, a great video. The notion that we play from the center of our bodies outward is a key to unlock musical ease and freedom.

[pianoologist]

It truly excites us when artists like you get the message we are trying to share. And thank you so much for being kind enough to taking the time to let us know we've been of service! Frank & Carrie at piano-ology