Christopher Hitchens vs. Justin Raimondo (antiwar.com) on Al-Qaeda - Part 2

[danwatson1974]

Why do I feel like the voices of the 2 guests that Hitchens is debating with here were done by Trey Parker and Matt Stone??

[abuliberalee]

So neither this first dickbag caller nor the masochistic, jihadi apologist pussy have the first idea of the not so subtle differences between Qaeda and Iran; notably the Qaeda loves little more than slaughtering the Shia "takfiris."

[jq747]

I'm a big fan of the late great Hitch... but shit man, sometimes I wish they'd mute his mike when he started talking over the top of his opponent. If only so his opponent could make himself look stupid with his own uninterrupted words.

[felswitch]

Chris - 1 Justin - 0

[Rpagsis1]

Seen the Hitch live in action at many debates, and as a devout Christian never agreed with his Secular worldview--- but loved his sense of style and was always worth the price of admission.

[MrFrontallobotomy]

@Rpagsis1As a devout Christian, can I ask you..Do believe in the movement of tectonic plates? Are earthquakes caused by movement of Earth's crust or is an angry God tutoring humanity in the ways of righteousness?

[Rpagsis1]

@MrFrontallobotomy Your comment annded question has made me believe that you are under the false impression you are a witty intellect, and if your intelligence is an indication on the direction of where the New Atheist Movement is heading- I'm sure Hitch would convert.

[MrFrontallobotomy]

@Rpagsis1 Well aren't you the little inspiration.

[MattSingh1]

RPenta Perfectly illustrates and echoes my sentiments towards the anti-war movement, and the consequences, no matter how well-intentioned, of its members.

[babyshambler]

Raimondo just sighs and rolls his eyes rather than counter-argues Hitchens points.

[thewarriorsrok]

Hitchens looks like such a bad motherfucker right here. I feel so lucky to be a teenager while Christopher was alive, so many role models are stupid fucks but Hitch inspired me to be a viciously smart bad-ass like him. Now excuse me, I'm going to go read a book, bitches.

[iliveon]

@thewarriorsrok hell yeah!

[ajnode]

Eeeerrr did anyone notice the question that was supposed to be addressed after the break in part 1 wasn't answered in part 2?

[RhettWright]

Justin Raimondo is odious.

[charlesvan13]

Hitchens, the Egyption, and the Queeny guy.

[Tsnore]

Raimondo is not a great debater but some of these comments here seem to dislike him for his homosexual demeanor more than his commentary. His pen is acerbic and quite informed and entertaining at antiwar.com. Hitchens is tiring to listen to as he defends his support of using the US military to fight in places like Iraq. Stick to God and religion Hitch, and BTW stop equating the two. And who's that other guy?

[MattSingh1]

@Tsnore "His pen is acerbic and quite informed and entertaining at antiwar.com" So, Raimondo is a great intellect when he isn't faced with dissent and zero counter-points? Wow, that's a totally inane and factious statement. "Hitchens is tiring to listen to as he defends his support of using the US military to fight in places like Iraq. Stick to God and religion Hitch, and BTW stop equating the two" Typical anti-war masochism; it's all the west's fault. Go sell your pencils from your cup, sir.

[Lleldorynix]

Peter Hitchens > Christopher Hitchens

[richter75]

@Lleldorynix Me > You

[Tris67]

@Lleldorynix wrong

[statickk14]

Justin Raimondo is a dumbass, he should be shipped to Afghanistan. His wife and daughter would be forced to wear burkha. And then see what kind of sympathy he has for them. But in all honesty, the US foreign policy did contribute to the rise of Al Qaeda. US funded the Afghan war to fight Russia. Russia was doing a great job of keeping the Al Qaeda under control and then Reagan, the stupid funded them to fight Communism. Such dumb people on this planet.

[Lleldorynix]

@statickk14 Lmfao, you can't even look enough into the man to know that he is gay?

[TheSasss1]

lololololololololol @ Justin Raimondo. He looks like he is scared of Christopher Hitchens as he seems to both love him and hate him at the same time and acts like a heart broken ex-lover...lolololol this was hilarious

[russianpaul77]

raimondo makes some good points earlier on but he sucks at debating. jeremy scahill, allan nairn or chris hedges would've been a better choice at taking on hitchens' warmongering bullshit.

[sebah1991]

@russianpaul77 you make me laugh

[russianpaul77]

@sebah1991 and why is that? do you actually have anything substantive to say to me? do you even know who jeremy scahill or allan nairn are?

[sebah1991]

@russianpaul77 sorry but it is hard to take you serious when you say that chris hedges is a good debater especially on the subject of iraq.

[russianpaul77]

@sebah1991 and what of scahill, nairn, or chomsky? they would all wipe the floor with his pro-war cheerleading. and what is specifically your issue with hedges? he has far more experience in real combat situations and has covered war far more than hitchens ever has, in latin america, bosnia, middle east, etc. hitchens is a fraud of an intellectual who prefers to regurgitate and justify US imperialist propaganda. he's not a real journalist like the others i have mentioned.

[herringla]

You carry their water for them! ha ha - Hitch slap!

[Duckshmm]

Christopher Hitchens: Secret Agent

[VenomOXP]

Justin Raimondo was not FABULOUS!!!

[JRSnodgrassOfficial]

Hitch rockin the aviators. Nice.

[warmongerpro]

Antiwar is a moronic libertarian cesspool. I'd like to see Christopher debate a principled leftist, maybe Noam Chomsky or Richard Seymour.

[KaonNeutre]

I believe that Christopher Hitchens is the reincarnation of Jesus!!!

[cody283]

Thanks for posting! I never saw this, and I didn't know Hitchens had ever been on Riz Khan's show. It is wonderful to see how heads of groups like antiwar.com look when they have to push their ideas in the flesh.

[cody283]

Thanks for posting! I never saw this, and I didn't know Hitchens had ever been on Riz Khan's show. It is wonderful to see how heads of groups like antiwar.com look when they have to push their ideas in the flesh.

[lucas198]

hitchens looks the shit in those sunnies.

[machielste1]

@lucas198 Hes the pimp of the 'hood in stanford ;p

[knowthetruth1492]

I would love to see Chomsky debate Hitchens on the ''war on terror''.

[Territomauvais]

@knowthetruth1492 Chomsky said he would never debate Hitch on the merits of the Iraq war. And I think I know why.

[RPenta]

@Territomauvais Actually you don't-Chomsky was totally disgusted by Hitchens jingoism, personal attacks on him, and hypocrisy by pretending to be the rational skeptic but with blind faith to the state.

I could have destroyed Hitchens in a debate on Iraq.

What do you call a dead Chris Hitchens? One less war monger.

[MattSingh1]

@RPenta Typical body-bag, peace-movement nonsense. Be safe in the knowledge that your immoral anti-war stance is responsible for thousands of dead Iraqis, Sudanese, Kosovan Muslims and many, many others. Hitch may be gone, but he's immortal in the work he leaves behind, unlike cretins like you, who will be as irrelevant dead as you were alive.

[Territomauvais]

@MattSingh1 People like RPenta couldn't tell the difference between an internationalist and a jingoist if their lives depended on it. Seriously.

It's dangerous; this very widespread anti-war group thinking mentality. Dangerous and stupid, and abdicating responsibility in the most abject way.

[MattSingh1]

@Territomauvais Thank you for your support and solidarity. It means a lot in a time when the group- thinking you mentioned is held en-masse.

[RPenta]

@MattSingh1 Right, dick head, we in the peace movement have a thing against body bags and morons like you are so bereft of intelligence and humanity that you make a right wing talking point out of it; tell me, asshole, how the peace movement is responsibility for 500000 dead Iraqis?

[Territomauvais]

@RPenta On the War on Terror, Chomsky has been extremely intellectually lazy.

To say Hitchens has blind faith to the state is absurd in the highest degree.

And to say he was pretending to be a rational skeptic is even more stupid.

You could destroy Hitch on a debate in the Iraq war? Ha. You couldn't even get passed me first. There is NO feasible argument for leaving Saddam in power in 1991 onwards.

If you disagree, you disagree with international law and most peoples morality.

[RPenta]

@Territomauvais It is a crime against peace, the highest crime under Nuremberg to wage aggressive war; if you go back to 1990 you can see that the US turned on its former stooge dictator (one of many it has had) and told him it would not intervene in a conflict between Saddam and Kuwait; we/they lied and the war ensued ginned up by professional propaganda like the phony babies thrown out of incubator stories courtesy of Zionist stooges like the late Rep. Tom (Dracula) Lantos.

[Territomauvais]

@RPenta You're still lying about Hitchens' connections to the Bush family, as I know you are.

And yes, lies were told about babies being thrown out of incubators...as in all wars.

But wait, an aggressive war? Are you fucking kidding? Who invaded and annexed Kuwait, a member of the UN and of the Islamic Conference? The US or Iraq? Who is being aggressive here?

The US did in fact give Saddam permission to "rearrange the boarders" as it were @ the Rumaila oil fields, but that's all.

[RPenta]

@Territomauvais How do you think Saddam was going to do the rearranging by sending interior decorators???

The lies of the Bush administration were part of a psyops against the people of the United States and it worked. It was not the first nor would it be the last.

[Territomauvais]

@RPenta They didn't think he was crazy enough to take over the whole country. Which he did. Which is why he wasn't a rational actor, and had to be deposed by force or from within.

(And they tried it from within, the 1991 insurrection, get used to it, hundreds of thousands of innocent peacefully protesting civilians murdered from the skies because we did nothing.)

The fact that you said 'Zionist stooge' tells me nearly everything I need to know.

Facts mean nothing to you.

[Territomauvais]

@RPenta MattSingh1 is quite right; your nonsensical anti-war positions and those who also hold it are responsible for 500,000 dead Iraqi children 5 and under. Half a million.

Amongst MANY other atrocities. Like Rwanda, Darfur, The Congo. Where, thanks to the incompetence at the UN and the general lazily thought out anti-war position that's so pervasive, millions of people are now dead. Because we sat and watched.

Exactly as you'd have us done in Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps elsewhere

[sgberta]

6:44 to 7:11 is great

[sccitylhh]

Aside from the obvious dismantling of the gentleman in the middle, it's always refreshing to see homophobia and bigotry alive and well with these anonymous comments.

[hayden50]

the queer made a real fool of himself, just look at his face at the end ,classic.the hippie got pwned by Hitchens

[hayden50]

San Fransisco is an ultra-liberal cesspool of Hippies.

[richter75]

Raimondo reminds me of 14 yo girls answering critics..

[AsSomedayItMayHappen]

Cheers to Al Jazeera for bringing on the laughs.

[sammyh1982]

This just in...U.N. Resolution 1555 has stated unilaterally that the verbal ownage by one Christopher Hitchens against "Raimondo" on Al-Jazeera in August 2008 is officially deemed an overwhelming slaughter and egregious war crime whereby the perpetrator (HItchens) used his brainpower unremittingly during a relentless barrage on said victim "Raimondo" (a crude caricature of the so called anti-war movement)

[RPenta]

@sammyh1982 I understand that the UN is further investigating whether the terms "own/ownage/pwned" and other variants is most used by the following fanboys/stooges/marks of the following:

1. Batman

2. Snitch Hitchens (RIH)

3. Sam Harris

4. The Incredible Hulk

It is has preliminarily ascertained that said fanboys/stooges/marks are tied for being obnoxious assholes.

[princez413]

This should be titled Christopher Hitchens vs JustRamitinjoe.

[Benjabola]

christopher hitchens loves the smell of napalm in the morning

[CIarKent]

@Benjabola it smells like... victory

[lector0003]

Hitchens looks kind of cool with the glasses.

[ivanmikhailov]

Another idiot verbally raped by Hitchens...although this one may have enjoyed it.

[siegfriedfreud1984]

Its nice to see that people like Raimondo stil upset people in america. Here in europe it is unfortunatly the average opinion of most people. There was a poll in switzerland last year showing that 40% of the people there think that Bin Laden is not a real person.

[bencsk8r]

when was this recorded? anyoneno ?

[JaimeraiJomaar]

LMAO hitchens is soo rude to this guy but its well deserved, raimondo is a dumbass.

[chepesent]

raimondo got a taste of the hitchslap!

[darwinkilledgod]

Hitchens is incredibly rude at times, but I can't help but forgive him for it.

[preemptivestrike20]

I've never seen someone humiliate themselves on TV as much as Raimondo. What a child.

[DarkPrince0fWGTN]

This Justin dude is unbelievably immature and pathetic, why he was allowed on tv bewilders me

[PaulGilbertIsGod2]

@DarkPrince0fWGTN I am also beguiled.



[buybuydandavis]

Raimondo - what a twit. "Because of people like you waging war on the entire world..."

How is it that any organization can consider this bozo worth putting on screen?

[hunterstl]

WTF you guys. I swear this is an Onion piece. That middle guy is such a fucking caricature I don't believe he really exists. Or does he? I couldn't stop laughing.

[CIarKent]

@hunterstl lol he sounds like a gay idiot. in Iran they hang people like him and he's defending Iran's regime?

WTF

[preemptivestrike20]

@CIarKent I looked this Raimondo guy up and he's apparently against gay marriage. He's clearly in denial!

[CIarKent]

@preemptivestrike20 I just noticed in this vid that he lives in San Francisco. I'll bet you 1 million $ that he's not married to a woman.

I think we should send him to an islamic country for a month. if he survives and manages to evade execution, we should bring him back and see what he says about them then

[hellodave2006]

@hunterstl The scary part is, he is for real!

[nickthelight]

@hunterstl

sadly not. He really is that stupid and narrow minded.

[penkallli]

Hitchens should stick to his proffes,

Shias regard sunnis as heretics too

Hazaras and others who fought against taliban got beaten, simple enough

Iraq is controlled by militias who are supported by Iran, Iran helped americans both in Iraq and Afg invasion

etc etc

[nickthelight]

Justin Raimondo is a fool and clearly terrified of Hitchens who intellectually rapes him. Raimondo has the political outlook of a fifteen year old

[machielste1]

@nickthelight fiftteen year old monkey*

[nickthelight]

@machielste1 - ha, ha - indeed.

[Ruffneckization]

@nickthelight ugh another hitchens fanboy