@PrinceNoirAmericain Right, dont forget your white blood . You are such a child, you are trying to impress but keep making a fool of yourself. I am sure you know the 8 tribes, keep on with your fantasies. You are Black American accept it.
@PrinceNoirAmericain BTW Have you found out that Goun,Egun, Ogu, Gun are all names for the same people. Infact Egun in Nigeria consider Seto as one of their dialects, probably some of them are of Seto origin. You think you know so much but the most basic things you do not know. I grew up in Lagos, I was not just a tourist like you,. Atleast if you are honest you should be able to say you were wrong,remember you called me a retard for suggesting this, so who is the retard?
@EgbesuJuju2010 Now you want to ease up on the insults, anyway its all good as that is not really my style.Well so far I have found out that Oyo Mesi is a title that the Alafin of Oyo gave to councilors, they were a very strong force and were often called king makers. Messi is too similar to be a coincidence. I also learned that the Oyo empire gave protection to Porto Novo against Abomey and that is why Abomey never attacked them because they were afraid of Oyo .
Yeah because it gets old really fast. Normally, I do not resort to ad hominem attacks. I debate with proven facts.
Well, what does "Messi" mean in Yoruba? My son is named after Ahosu/King Dé-Messé. Dé=Souvereign Father
Méssé=Destiny gave him to us/sé=destiny/sétché=my destiny for example.
So what is the meaning of "Messi"? None of the Goun Ahosulé/Kings had Yoruba names or names derived from the Yoruba language. Perhaps it's a coincidence
There is no historical evidence to prove that. Abomey and Xogbonou remained arch enemies til the very end. Xogbonou was often attacked by Abomey. Having conquered all surrrounding Kingdoms, they sought to conquer Xogbonou but they were too powerful and successfully fended off all attacks. The Goun royal army even won some battles and secured new territory. For example, Ahosu Dé-Messé fought against the Dahomean tropps of Tegbessou and took possession of numerous villages along
@EgbesuJuju2010 Often Port Novo joined together with the Awori(Lagos) Yoruba to fight the Egba Yorubas of Ogun state. That is how close their relationship was with some Yoruba. This seems to be why a lot ran to Lagos when they were attacked by Fon of Abomey. This group as well as groups from Whydah and perhaps some other groups are collectively known as Egun in Nigeria. Look up Gbe languages the Ewe believe their root is in w. Nigeria (Ketu) and were once a part of Oyo.
@PrinceNoirAmericain What you should realize is that the coastal groups of W.Africa are all related. As the fish migrated so did the people, setting up fishing camps in the same places and mixing together, genetically as well as culturally. Many Africans are not aware of this, we may go by different names and have changes in our language but the basic culture remains similar. I guess this is why our cultures tend to be accepting and very able to assimilate other groups.
@PrinceNoirAmericain All the abuse we went through is ok if in the end we both learn something I cannot hate any black group, we all have our flaws My belief concerning the Americo- Liberians is that they should have been eager to assimilate with their African brothers,reclaiming the culture that was stolen from them, similar to what happened with the Afro- Brazilians.A lot totally assimilated into Yoruba culture and a big problem like what you had in Liberia never existed, anyway we can move on
@SewenamiAhosu WOw how many accounts do you have....@RedSeaBoi @truthdontneeddefense.....You are a pathetic Hatian posing to be an East African so you can get us against each other...wow what a shame.
along the river Ouémé (1752-1757). This is also the period during which many yorubas began migrating to Xogbonou but they weren't able to move to the city until 20 years later. This also marks the introduction of islam into the region.
Ahosu Dé-Gbegnon (1761-1775) also fought against the Ahosulé Abomeytonlé/Kings of Abomey and destroyed the villages of Godomey and Abomey Calavi
Ahosu Dé-Houézé 1818-1828) , grand son of the founder of Xogbonou(Té-Agbanlin) was victorious in his battle against the Sovereign of Gbadagry Lagos ( NIgéria ) . So you see, Abomey and Hogbonou fought til the very end.
As far as Oyo is concerned, Xogbonou never served as a vassal, never paid any taxes etc, according to the information I have, to the Kingdom of Oyo. Oyo was an enemy Kingdom and remained such until the French established a protectorate over Xogbonou
Anyway, Ahosu Dé-Toffa didn't really have the choice, Oyo had fallen in the hands of the British and the British were bombarding Xogbonou from Oyo. This is why Ahosu Dé-toffa accepted French military assistance and the requirements imposed by the French(protectorate) So Xogbonou was never conquered by neighboring African Kingdoms, it simply suffered the same fate as every other African Kingdom
What words in Haitian Kreyol come from languages spoken in Benin such as Fon/Goun?
Do you guys use "tché"=my, for example "assi tché"= my wife/. According to a study carried out by a Congolese linguist, there are more words belonging to languages spoken in Congo in Haitian Kreyol than words belonging to languages spoken in Benin. His belief is that Congolese tribes were dominant among the slaves brought to Saint Domingue
Quand ils disent en créole : «moun, timoun, granmoun (ce qui veut dire respectivement en français: humain, enfant, adulte), ça vient de mouna, moutou. Le mot malanga (patate), c'est pratiquement des mots qui viennent du Congo», a-t-il fait savoir.
I found the article, the title is "les ancêtres des Haïtiens proviennent du Congo et non du Bénin/Haitians' ancestors come from Congo, not from Benin. I will copy and paste the examples he gives
homas Vanda : marasa (jumeau). Selon le spécialiste, et nous le citons textuellement d'ailleurs : «il n'y a aucune tribu en Afrique qui utilise ce mot pour désigner les jumeaux que la tribu de mon père. Ce n'est pas un mot que l'on trouve au Bénin».
That is the most absurd thing i've ever heard in my life. Go to Benin and say that, you will be laughed out of the country. According to Olakunle Abimbola,, "irst of all, I need to explain the change of name from Dahomey to Benin. Intellectuals and those who come from Atakora, Borgu and other areas of the North had always opposed the name Dahomey. They never liked that name. Why? Because Dahomey came from Abomey, a Kingdom in the middle of the country. This kingdom traded in slaves
@PrinceNoirAmericain borgu came from Nigeria so did Fon groups . They are are a sub group of the Gbe speaking groups like the Ewe of Togo and Ghana, their original home is Ketu in Nigeria. Goun or as we call them Egun are sub groups of this language group. They were driven west by the Oyo. That is a fact. You are a kid Ijaw Killer, come to Ijaw land and you will wet your pants ,such bravery on IT.Porto Novo was dominated by the Oyo and paid tribute to the Alafin of Oyo another fact.
You are a Méhiho Yovo(Whte slave). You have to learn how to properly address your superior boy. You shall address me as "Ahosou", got that boy? For the last time méhiho, Xogbonou was never, ever dominated by Oyo, quite to the contrary, many Yoruba villages were conquered by Xogbonou. The Xogbonoutonlé were never forced into submission, they successfully resisted Yoruba invasions from the beginning to the end. Also, can you please provide your sources because
@PrinceNoirAmericain HA ha ha, look at the pot calling the kettle black. Your ancestors were white slaves, that is your history not mine. You are hear trying to claim another persons culture as your own, why because you claim to have married an African wife. In case you do not know the wife follows the culture of the husband, not the other way round, but you have no culture, so you have become a wife to your woman, imbecile. You are superior at fantasy and that is all.
@PrinceNoirAmericain Till today your people in Liberia are not accepted, you think the Goun accept you, lol what a fool you are. Then you come with your BA INFERIORITY COMPLEX, AND TALK ABOUT OTHER AFRICAN GROUPS AS IF YOU SPEAK FOR GOUN PEOPLE. You are a real loser and you know it, you have no culture so you latch on to any culture that sounds good. You are probably one of those whose ancestors were banished and sold into slavery from Angola. You are inferior in intellect, as well as a fool.
@PrinceNoirAmericain Do you think that actually bothers me, you obviosly know very little about Nigerians. You like using the word monkey for black people, you half breed rat, you could never speak for Goun and if you think you do that only shows how stupid you are. I assure you a Goun would see me as a brother before you, no matter our histories why because you are black American, the whole black race detest you, but I dont I understand you are just ignorant, cn't help your stupidity.
there's hardly any documentation about the Goun in English lol. The "Egun" are not the "Goun" retard lol. Another historical distortion, Xogbonou never payed tribute to the Alafin of Oyo but Abomey did lol. You are not as smart as you think, actually you are quite obtuse. The Gun migrated from Adja-Tado (Azamé). The Ewe, the Aiyizo,
@PrinceNoirAmericain EGUN,Ewe, are the same people so are Goun, groups are called by different names in different countries. You are not even a Goun , you are a black American stop pretending to be what you are not. The Ewe groups from Adja- Tado migrated from Ketu, this is something most w.Africans know but you are a foreigner so I excuse your stupidity. Even the Ewe in Ghana will tell you the are Omo Oduduwa,
Hey Mehiho Yovo, you're back here aping around lol. You just can't accept your defeat can you lol. We don't have a culture but AA culture dominates the world lol. Even, in Benin they imitate us lol You are way too emotional, which is why you keep reminding me that i'm not Goun. Perhaps you have reading comprehension problems or you're simply dyslexic. I told you already, my wife is Ahovi and we have a son together. My son is half AA, half Goun. Goun history is now part of
his history, his maternal history. He will be rased with the best of AA and Goun values. We're not raising him to be AA nor Goun, we're raising him to be a Pan-African lol.
Of course the wife follows the culture of the husband, traditionally speaking but we're not a traditional African couple. For us, it's a matter of "mutual influence". She has a very rich culture, there's no reason for her to abandon her culture to follow mine. It's about fusion, we're mixing
the fusion of two distinct cultures. They did not migrate from Ketu. The history of the Goun is well documented, no where in the oral traditions, is there any mention of a migration from Ketu to Adja-Tado retard lol. Talk about intellect, you are intellectually lethargic. Instead of acknowledging your lack of knowledge as it pertains to Benin, you keep coming back with these absurd and unsubstantiated claims which you pull out of your ape behind
PrinceNoirAmericain=BlackAmericanPrince lol, notice how I didn't call myself "PrinceNoirGoun" lol, BA is an ethnicity idiot lol. I am a proud BA, have you been on my page? Why would I need to impress an page? You are a MEHIHO YOVO, my royal African family wouldn't let you anywhere near me. We'd keep your animalistic, savage behind outside, tied to the wall you méhiho dog. "Mehiho Yovo asks " do you think that actually bothers me? Of course it bothers you dumb@ss
some in N i g e e r r i a, Ghana, Togo, Gabon but generally speaking, they prefer to stay at home. The Fon-Goun conflict doesn't interest me, they all have negative things to say about each other. So telling me what your imaginary Fon workers said is pointless. You can't play the tribal card with me. First of all, i'm not Goun. Secondly, I can see through you. You are a hypocrite like most of your kind. Your days are numbered, my son who is ahovi will rise to power
@PrinceNoirAmericain Ha hA HA , GO PLAY WITH SOME BOYS, as most of your group do, I have never seen a black culture with so many faggots, 90% chance you are one of these down low. Leave our African women why don't you marry your good for nothing BA girls. Nothing you say can ever bother me, and as I told you I believe nothing you say so keep your stupid videos, you know nothing of Vodun, little kid, AND KNOW ONE IN THAT VIDEO EVEN KNOWS YOU, go to disney world and act out your fantasies.
The Neglokpe, the Hweno, the Hwla, the Xweda and the Fon all come from Adja-Tado. The Fon and the Goun have the same ancestors, which is why Goun is a sister language to Fon. They were initially "one people". After succession disputes regarding the throne of Allada,, the two sons of the 2nd king "Lansouhouto" had to separate. The oldest (Té-Agbanlin) founded Xogbonou and the other, Dako migrated to Abomey. But Dako is not the founder of Dahomey but rather Houégbadja.
The entire history is told in this song titled "Abomey/Hogbonou", which talks about the reconciliation between Dahomey and Xogbonou, in other words the Fon and The Goun. It is my son's favorite song..... So these two groups are descended from the Adja
Summary: the Goun and the Fon belong to the same historical group which migrated from Adja-Tado and therefore are descended from the Adja. they founded the kingdom of Allada and following succession disputes,
@PrinceNoirAmericain Yes they reconciled as they are brother tribes, but they were dominated by ABOMEY, WHO WERE DOMINATED BY YORUBA. No colonization lasts forever, and the strongest tribes were weak at one point. But the fact is that the Yorubas dominated ABOMEY, yes they defeated some Yoruba villages, but no Yoruba kingdom paid tribute to them as the Abomey paid to the ALAFIN. bUT ALL THIS IS NO CONCERN OF YOURS, YOU ARE A FOREIGNER. Keep learning our history as your own is slavery.
I think this is going to be my last response. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. In your case, we can lead a monkey to bananas but we can force it to eat ‘em. The discussion is sterile and utterly boring. Your narrow-minded views and lack of intellectual honesty are an impediment to dialogue. Your abysmal ignorance and unjustified and inexplicable arrogance(because you are far from being bright) is exasperating. In terms of African history
you’ve merely scratched the surface but instead of being humble and learning from others who KNOW more than you, you prefer to wallow in ignorance. Because your pride, what little you have, is based on the erroneous assumption that you know more than others by virtue of being born in THE most corrupt African nation on the continent. For the past two weeks, Ihave not expressed my own views nor formulated my own opinions. Everything I’ve stated either comes
the two sons of the 2nd King (Lansouhouto) separated. Té-Agbanlin founded Xogbonou and Dako migrated to Abomey. Houégbadgja founded Dahomey. As previously stated, all these ethnic groups come from Adja-Tado. their migration is associated with a legend according to which the daughter of the King of Tado one day met a harmless panther which gave her a son. The child was born a few months later and was named "Agasu". He was raised in the royal court and fathered numerous children.
One of his children killed the prince who was to inherit the throne. He flees with the skull of the prince and his father's spear to Allada, where he founds his Kingdom. He was given the name "Adjahouto", killer of Adja, as he had killed the prince of Adja. His children would become kings. And as I said, under the reign of the 2nd King Lasanouhouto, his two children separated, one founding Xogbonou and the other migrating to Abomey. I am not Goun, I am African American
because in Goun culture, ethnicity is paternal. That being said, Goun history is part of his maternal history. As parents, it is incumbent upon us to transmit both AA history and Goun history to our son. I married into a Goun royal family. It is my responsibility to see to it that my son's maternal history is not distorted. Also, not enough is known about the Goun so I try to promote Goun culture, to show the extraordinary beauty of it.
Unfortunately, in Xogbonou, the youth is more into "African American" culture than into Goun culture, hopefully that will change. For the last time, we have a house in Porto-Novo, my son will be raised there, my Goun brothers and sisters treat me like any other African living in Porto-Novo. Well I can't say that, they find it more "interesting" to meet an African American in Porto-Novo than an Ijaw, for example, from Nigeria or any other African for that matter lol.
@PrinceNoirAmericain You do not understand Africa. Ha they find it interesting to meet you, they want to exploit you trust me, if you are poor they will treat you like the dirt you are. AND STOP TELLING ME WHERE YOU HAVE HOUSES, nobody cares,typical BA boastful character, I am not impressed, anyone can build a house in PORTO NOVO it is no big deal. But for a BA may be your impressed with your self.
@EgbesuJuju2010 from the oral accounts or from years of painstaking research carried out by AFRICAN historians. You have not provided not one verifiable historical document to support your claims. You have a very unscientific way of demonstrating historical verities. I’ve asked you on numerous occasions to cite your sources. People who have true knowledge do not settle for making unsubstantiated historical assertions, they provide evidence to reinforce their claims
@EgbesuJuju2010 You didn’t know the history of Benin, I told it to you. The reason why I know this is because you don’t have access to oral accounts, which have been passed down from generation to generation. You don’t speak Goun nor do you speak French, so where are you getting your fragmentary information from? Are we to believe that certain Nigerian tribes have documented the complete history of Benin and its various tribes? Are you even aware of the fact that tribes
Are you even aware of the fact that tribes who share common history, who have lived side by side for centuries, oftentimes have mutually contradictory oral accounts? In many instances, the history of certain tribes has been falsified by other tribes. The Serere of Senegal are a prime example. You keep talking about acceptance, you mentally colonized baboons are always seeking white approval and tend to project your insecurities onto others. Whether the Goun
accept me or not is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the historical facts I’ve stated. We’re talking about more than 300 000 people. Do you really think that when I’m in , I go up to Goun brothers and sisters asking them “Do you accept me” lol. Are you mentally challenged or what? I roam Africa like dinosaurs once roamed the Earth. I do what I want and go where I want. When I’m in Benin, walking in the streets, you cannot tell where I’m from. Very often,
@PrinceNoirAmericain Now you are really on to some gibberish, seeking white approval, ha now where did that nonsense come from. And I bet you they can tell, you are not Goun. Little kid fantasizing again, dinosaurs, you really are full of crap.
@EgbesuJuju2010 people think I am Beninese. Even here in the U.S., on many occasions, Africans have come up to me and my wife asking us if we’re from Benin lol. I always say “ I’m AA and she’s Beninese’. I rep my people wherever I go. When I tell people in Benin that I’m AA, I am treated very kindly. Because it’s more interesting for them to meet an African American returnee than it is to meet a Mehiho Yovo Ijaw from N I I g g e ria lol, that’s just the reality of it.
@PrinceNoirAmericain Was waiting for you to use the N word, you have no shame, you hate yourself, calling other blacks gorrillas monkeys and apes, now the N word, I pity your wife and I can assure you that your relationship will fail, as soon as Beninoise start to show you their true colours, you will hate them too. juST REMEMBER i TOLD YOU SO . you are a self hating racist, but the race you hate is your own.
This is not a scoop mehiho yovo. Slavery happened over 400 years ago. All your kingdoms fell into ruin, you were colonized, enslaved on your own lands There were slaves in Somali, Cameroon. In fact, the capital of Gabon was founded by slaves. You have slave descendants in various African countries. But what’s more is that slavery persists, it has taken new forms. I could literally go to Africa right now and buy “human beings”. That is your problem, not mine.
@PrinceNoirAmericain HA you think colonization is slavery but the BA's predicament in America is not. Europeans could not even own land in Nigeria, some kind of slavery that was. A few BA's made it singing and playing with a ball and you think you have made it. You are getting left behind, you families are non existant, children have no fathers, most men are gay,but you are the strongest tribe, it is all in your imagination, dont forget a lot of your population is in jail, training new BA gays,
You are mehihole today. You are an embarrassment to the negro-african race. Your countries are still under colonial tutelage, you are not capable of running your countries. And if the White man were to grant you TRUE independence, you’d genocide each other out of existence. You said I’m claiming a culture that isn’t mine. Where and when did I say that I am Goun? Lol. I said my wife is Goun and that my son is half Goun. My mother-in-law is Setto and my father-in-law
@PrinceNoirAmericain And you have no country, you are treated like garbage in US, So please run your own country first if you can. The first black presidant, is he BA, NO, he is African, Africans in America have a higher success level than you in your own country, so if we are doing bad you would do worse, and talk about yourself, I am sure if you wife wants she can talk about her family, lets hear about your own family, Prince lol
is Goun. Naye(mama) became Goun through marriage. However, she didn’t abandon her culture but she did adopt certain customs. But from my understanding, they influenced each other mutually. You have a very simplistic view of Africans. Even if I had no children, I’d still learn Goun culture for when you love someone, you want to know everything about that person, especially their history. I don’t follow any specific culture, I follow what is right.
We take the best from both cultures mehiho. Latching on to a culture meanings embracing a culture to which you have no connection. I haven’t embraced Goun culture. I am married to a Goun and my son is half Goun, that’s my connection. However, my son’s first language is Goun followed by French. I am not white washed like many African parents. I would never ever give priority to the white man’s language over an African language. For the last time gorilla,
Hogbonou is not Dahomey. Hogbonou never paid tribute to any Kingdom. Hogbonou never paid tribute to Dahomey nor to Oyo, ask any Beninese historian. They were never dominated, the Goun were never enslaved. However, a few Goun kings did sell their own subjects, particularly Ahosou De-Houyl
In Porto-Novo, you have an ethnic group called "afro-brazilian", they are descendants of slaves who came back from Brazil in the 19th century I believed and received a warm welcome from King De-Toffa, of hom my wife is a direct descendant. Yes, I can speak for the Republic of Benin for I am more knowledgeable of its history than you are. I am also Ahovi lol. They are not your brothers and sisters and if you and I
@PrinceNoirAmericain AFRO BRAZILLIANS are all over the coasts in W.Africa, this is nothing particular to Benin. I laugh at you, you say they are not my brothers and sisters, you are so ignorant it is ridiculous. In case you do not know, they speak a Gbe language, part of the Kwa language family we all speak, we broke off from the main group at different times hence the differences in language. You are such a fool,a little common sense and you would be able to see this.
You are behaving like a jealous freak. You are not on my level, you are an inferior. The Ijaw haven't accomplished anything in contemporary times. The most powerful tribe on the face of this earth is the AA tribe to which I belong. Where do people study Ijaw history and who has even heard of you mehihole yovole? Everywhere on this planet, you see certain aspects of AA culture, from Japan, to France all the way to Benin. You are the biggest followers in the history of mankind
@PrinceNoirAmericain Do not make me laugh, you have a little money because you are in a country that put you to work and made money off your blood and sweat, and gave you nothing, and by the way you are the weakest, materialsm does not mean strength. I find it so funny you think we are jealous of you, most African as well as caribbean would take it as an insult to be called a BA and that isa fact. BTW i AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUNG TEENS. also all the countries resent your cultural influence.
you claim to have a culture and yet, you imitate our slave culture lol. That is what I call the "African paradox", this widespread belief in a superior culture all while imitating AA culture. No other human group in this world can boast about as many cultural innovations as AAs, which is why we are known all throughout the world
I am ahovi and one day, I will be Ahosu. I am royalty now
@PrinceNoirAmericain Ican only speak for myself, and I do not imitate your culture also young kids always experiment with new things as they get older they come to their senses, it is not so unusual.
were to go to Benin, they'd treat me better than you lol. You are only known for 419, deceit, lies, dishonesty and your reputation precedes you lol. The Goun are not oppressed by the yoruba lol, where did you get that from? You have a habit of making up stuff, it's as if I said "the Bamiléké are oppressed by the Douala" lol. The Goun run Porto-Novo and it is a Goun who will become president in Febuary (Adrien Houngbedji) lol. My mother-in-law belongs to the "Seto"
@PrinceNoirAmericain Boasting again I do not care who your wifes family is, and Egun are oppressed by Yoruba, Egun and Goun are the same people, like Nago and Yoruba
@PrinceNoirAmericain hA hA, RUN OUT OF AN ARGUEMENT,so you start pretending to speak Goun, are you 6, what a kid you are. I am sure Goun is a beautiful language like most African languages are but I do not speak it so keep wasting your time trying to impress, you are a fake, you do not speak this language so what are you trying to prove, stick to your ebonics, simpleton.
ethnic group but of course became Goun through marriage. She is a very wise woman and is also Ahovi. I told her what you said and she laughed lol. You are an ignorant fool. I already told you the history behind the name "Benin", it had nothing to do with liking or disliking Nigerians. You should go talk with real Beninese people, especially Goun bros and sis. Perhaps if they tell it to you
@PrinceNoirAmericain BTW my house is full of Beninoise workers, and the funny thing is all the Fon-gbe dislike the workers from Porto Novo, they say the are lazy, and the kind to make money without doing even half a days work. They say fetish is their 419. ps Beninoise do 419, they are just not that good at it. But they try, also they deal drugs, and are heavily involved in armed robbery, we all have are sour spots. Also they call them Yorubas. I guess its because their blood is mixed.
because you've been here for the past two weeks filling up my inbox with incoherent ape droppings. I am in your head now and you KNOW it. I'm not interested in your people Méhiho, I told you already, if you were to be wiped off the face of the earth, you wouldn't be missed. No one respects you, you dogs are nothing but "western-owned property" lol. Yes, I speak for
my Goun brothers and sisters méhihi aholinou(Nigerian slave), that's why you pay close attention to everything that comes out of my royal mouth lol. You are jealous méhiho yovo, as evidenced by your constant moaning and whining about me speaking for the Goun. You big oversized ape. You sound like a little kid who'd rather live in fantasy land than face reality. A Goun would NEVER see you as a brother. You wouldn't even be able to marry into a Goun family kiddo lol.
@PrinceNoirAmericain No I just want to mess with this ignorant akata who thinks he knows too much. I will assure you what ever crime Nigerians do they will never be as hated as BAs. Most who do not likes us do think we are smart, most of the black race sees you as imbeciles, who do really dumb,drug crazed crimes, like sticking up old ladies. ps most Africans with any mentality understand the brotherhood of Africans especially W.aFRICANS.. BEEING A HALF BREED OF NO NATION WOULD NOT KNOW.
I like how you're desperately tryng to prove to a Black American that te Goun would accept your méhiho yovo behind lol.You are beneath them, they'd only take you as a méhiho. You are loathed and despised everywhere in Africa, not just in Hogbonou, that is a FACT, now deal with it méhiho. Méhiho says "The whole Black race detests you" ahahahahah, dream on. Your failed state
@PrinceNoirAmericain DONT FORGET WE ARE A VERY DOMINANT FORCE IN AFRICA, but we see it more like big brothers. Africa has a love hate relationship with Nigeria, you would not know that. Btw a lot of Goun are mixed with Nigerian Yorubas so talk some sense even Fon groups call them Yorubas.You BAs are always looking for some great tribe to belong to, to make up for your destroyed self esteem, trust me the Gouns ridicule you behind your back, wife included. I do not blame her she married a buffoon
Personally, I don't believe anything you say. You lot are known for deceit and dishonesty. You can't be trusted. Now you are slandering Goun brothers and sisters. You see, it's so easy to get you guys to turn against each other, to pit tribes against each other. Your reputation is sulfurous, do you realize that all throughout Europe, your women work as prostitutes. And It is not the mythical White Man who got them into that mess but their fellow Nigerian brothers
We don't say "Beninoise", take off the "e", it is "Beninois". So now you would have me believe that there are Beninese people working for you. Even if it were true, who cares? I told you already, I could literally buy Nigerian children and women. You guys do it all the time. The women are forced into prostitution, become sex slaves and the children work for the wealthy of society, this is all too common. Does that make me superior to them? No!! I could go to Nigeria and get
@PrinceNoirAmericain You actually have no idea how these things work. And dont worry about my spellings, is that all you got. Answer this question are Egun and Goun the same people? And who is we, keep pretending you are from republic of Benin. I will continue showing you what a big fool you are . Talk is cheap, even with that you cannot be original, keep repeating things I say, you are a loser and you know it
the Nago are seen as foreigners lol. Do you understand that the Nago were conquered and played no relevant role throughout the history of Xogbonou? Do you understand that all the Yoruba villages were conquered? Do you want the names of the Yoruba villages that were conquered? When Té-Agbanlin founded Xogbonou, there were a few badly structured and poorly organized Yoruba chiefdoms that were conquered by Té-Agbanlin lol lol
@PrinceNoirAmericain Yoruba villages were conquered,yes, but their empire was not, however Abomey was a vassal to Oyo Abomey was a Kingdom, not a village. And the Goun are heavily mixed with their blood and also assmilated a lot of Yoruba babalawos into their Vodun religion. Both empires were enemies and enslaved each other it does not make anyone superior. We assume in a war both sides gain prisoners.Ethiopia colonized Yemen, those Habesha left behind are treated as slaves even though they were
Your ramblings are an utter bore, i'm only reading the 1st line now lol. Why don't you go play somewhere méhiho yovo, you are becoming obsessed with me. Normally I avoid your kind like the plague but I decided to give you a chance and I regret. Talking to you or trying to talk some sense into you is equivalent to talking to a brick wall lol
spare me the ad hominem attacks méhiho yovo lol, your jealousy is shining through lol. I managed to get you to come back for 2 weeks straight lol. I am in your tiny head now lol. You wake up thinking about me huh méhiho pédé
@PrinceNoirAmericain the dominant group. Yemen resents that period so they are hostile to the Ethiopians who remained. This is similar to the situation of Abomey and OYO. YOU ACT LIKE IT WAS YOUR OWN ACCOMPLISHMENT. Your history begins with slavery unfortunately. PS I am in no way insulting Goun people, as I said we are brothers,that does not mean we both do not have flaws. You seem to get joy from African groups having conflict which just shows you do not belong, you are not one of us.
Le fait est que les Nigérians sont partout méprisés, personne ne peut vous blairer. Tu dis qu'on vous déteste mais qu'on vous reconnaît une certaine intelligence lol, mon oeil. Si ton niveau d'intelligence est représentatif de celui de l'écrasante majorité des Nigérians, alors là, permets-moi de te dire que vous êtes loin d'être intelligents lol. Loin de là, vous êtes intellectuellement déficient. J'ai l'impression depuis deux semaines de parler à un gamin âgé de deux ans
themselves, you will believe me lol. Your country has its own problems of tribalism, which is perfectly normal considering that the country is an artificial creation, like most of these micro states. There is no intertribal, interethnic harmony in your country. Even if some Goun may dislike the Fon and vice-versa or the Yoruba and vice-versa, for the most part, it is an ethnically peaceful country. I don't know what the "Egoun" are. In Benin, "Egoun" refers to the spirits
of the dead. Perhaps this term is used in English to refer to present-day ethnic groups in Benin but it's not used in French. The most accurate documentation is in French but one should always refer to the oral tradition.
@PrinceNoirAmericain Now how interesting it means the same thing in Yoruba. I believe it is because when Oyo conquered this region they were the indigenes,a kin of respect, a masquerade still exists in their memory called Egungun. Most of their group migrated west, and Ewe broke off from the larger group to form their own identity. A lot seeking greener pastures, moved back Badagry is their town where they live by the water, with and like Ijaws. WE ARE BOTH CONSIDERED AROMIRE, LOVERS OF WATER.
has become a key player in the drug trade. Those little plastic balls of cocain you swallow are now starting to go to your head méhiho lol, quit while you can. You have made a complete fool of yourself for the entire world to see. You are frustrated, that's understandable. You're not used to being schooled by AAs lol. Well get used to it méhiho yovo, I am your ahovi. I am protected by the voudoulé. come to Benin and the voudoulé will chase you into the river lol.
Can you read or what? Egun is not synonymous with "Goun". No Goun in Benin refers to him or herself as "Egun". This is what I meant by "you lack humility". forget about my wife for a second. This is coming directly from nayé, my mother-in-law. "Egun" doesn't equal "Goun, the Goun do not refer to themselves as "Egun" nor are they even aware that they are referred to as such.
If you go to Benin and call a Goun "Egun", they will immediately think you're talking about the spirits of the dead". For the last time, this term is not used to describe the Goun in Benin. also, my mother-in-law confirmed what i've already stted, the Goun did not come from Kétou. You are IGNORANT and you conceal your ignorance behind the fact that you were born in N i g g e r i a. Being born on the continent is not a substitute for research.
The average African wouldn't be capable of telling you his or her complte tribal history, let alone that of neighboring tribes found in the same country. You haven't studied Goun history because there's no documentation in English lol. I'm no longer studying Goun history, I know it by heart. Initially, I told you what I knew, you doubted the historical veracity of the info I provided you on the basis of me being American.
Then I quoted some AFRICAN historians. I know how some méhiholé africanoulé are, they're not going to take your word for it but if it comes from well-respected African historians, then they might consider it. "I bet they can tell you are not Goun" lol. I told you I am AFRICA!! I blend in wherever I go. One day, I told my colleague who is from Cameroon and belongs to the Ngemba tribe, that I can tell he's African. Apparently, he was offended
@PrinceNoirAmericain O I guess I am wrong, one African that means all Africans are like that, and if he was offended I am not suprised he is your friend. Birds of the same feather flock together.
I roll with down-to-earth individuals, who got their head on their shoulders and who are humble enough to admit when they're wrong. I told you a 1000 times that in Benin, the word "egun" refers to the spirits of the dead. If you go to Benin and ask someone on the street "where can I find the Egun", they'll look at you like you're crazy.
I asked you a 1000 times to check the oral accounts but you keep coming back with this nonsense
people wouldn't be able to tell us apart lol. You guys have seriously issues lol. In Benin, whether in boubou or ordinary clothes, you cannot look at me and know that i'm from the Diaspora. I have one of those faces, I can blend in anywhere. It is an established fact that AAs are the most accomplished Blacks in the world. I am a
@PrinceNoirAmericain They live in the west so economically they are in and advantageous area. Nigerians by ratio have more Phds, Masters degrees, and probably bachelor degrees, These are Nigerians with the same advantage of being in the west, we even have higher educational ratios than your white American brothers. Lot of BAs can have African looks, but few our mentality, once your mouth is opened you stick out like a sore thumb, and I am not talking about accent.
For the last time, I don't care about you méhiholé yovolé, stop trying to prove to me that you lot are actually worth something. You are an embarrassment to the negro-african race. You haven't accomplished anything since your white colonial masters supposedly granted you independence. Supposedly because the entire world knows that you are still beholden to the west. You are losers in our eyes, we won't respect you. Most of you méhiholé are far too brainwashed
to realize you are nothing more than the white man's puppet. You are not hated because you are supposedly successful, you are hated by the entire world because you are a bunch of heathens, thieves, criminals who bring your thieving ways with you wherever you go. Now you lot are going to Brazil getting those brothers involved in the drug trade. Everywhere you go, you bring your criminal nature.
As for AAs, only the best go abroad. We establish respectable communities
wherever we go. In France, the AA community is comprised of teachers, scientists, writers, musicians. We are well respected all across the globe. You will never enjoy such international prestige because your people are good for nothing. Oh wait a minute, you are good for something...for forcing your women into prostitution in European countries lol
I don't care about how many PHD holders are in your God-forsaken communities, you haven't done anything with the white man's
proud American and will always defend my country. Benin is my 2nd country, the blood is in the family now. when I get tired of the U.S, I tell assi tché "I can't wait to go back home" lol. Once again, I roam Africa like dinosaurs once roamed the Earth. I have a little money because I handled my business méhiho. Materialism doesn't impress me and I do not attach great importance to being wealthy. I take care of my family, that's all that matters to me.
You are JEALOUS méhiho yovo for you are merely a subject, I am ahovi, the royal blood is in the family lol.
One thing you have to understand is that prior to my move to France where I spent close to 5 years, I had never met any Africans. I grew up in Elk Grove Ca. My grand mother, RIP, was the first Black person to buy a house overthere. So it wasn't until I got to France that I began meeting
@PrinceNoirAmericain And what is your point. The blood is in your wife and you have no idea who you are talking to so you cannot know my bloodline. I am jealous of a person I see as a fool, ps what was your grand father doing. Royalty lol keep riding on your wife's family, I hope they read all this and see what an imbecile they are connected to. You probably mention royalty more than they do, showing you do not have an drop of royal blood, you are so overwhelmed, hope they read this.
For get about my wife's family méhiho yovo, forget about the royalty. the discussion is over, get lost lol.
In all seriousness méhiho, i'm bored now. I am not in denial about anything. I am aware of the high incarceration rates among AA males, the shockingly high percentage of children being born out of wedlock, the disintegration of the family unit, the high prevalence of HIV in certain areas and the on going gang-related violence, as well as all the other problems
with which we are confronted. I have never denied our issues. However, when we analyze the situation of Africans back home, we come to the conclusion that given the enormous problems affecting your countries and communities, crticizing AAs is equivalent to throwing stones from a glass house.
LOL so my reasoning consists of saying, if you are not doing better than us overall, then you have no room to talk. You'd be better off tackling your numerous problems.
Despite our issues, at least we don't offer our children to European paedophiles. We don't enslave our children, we don't sell them to the highest bidder. We don't put our women in sex dens, we don't kill women, children and elderly people with machetes just because they belong to a different religion.
We don't hate our own brothers and sisters over superficial differences. Some irresponsible AA fathers may abandon their children but they are still looked after by a member
Africans. To make a long story short, I married a French woman, whose two best friends were African. A Wolof sis from Senegal and a Berbère sis from Morocco. Those two sisters were the 1st two Africans I met. I didn't begin dating African/French-Caribbean women until I separated from my wife.There were no big cultural differences. Many Africans of recent French extraction are "African-Americanized". Our culture is dominant in France. However,
However, I didn't intend to marry an African sis. , I was only interested in having fun. Dating African women wasn't an accomplishment. In France, many like AAs, so if you're AA and find some of them attractive, you'll end up dating some. In fact, most AAs date African women for the 1st time abroad (UK, Italy, France, Germany etc), not that big of a deal. I'm not so naive as to think
@PrinceNoirAmericain HA I lived in Calais for three months, it definitely is no accomplishment to get a French woman. That could be done in a 2 hr stop over.
Who give's a f..k about French women méhiho lol. You missed the whole point lol. I wasn't bragging about having been married to a French woman lol and I never stated that Africans can't get French women lol. That's just part of my story kiddo lol
that all Africans like AAs simply because we're AA lol. However, I didn't know that there were "haters" until I got back to the U.S, almost 5 years later. that's when I found out that there are méhholé yovolé" (white slaves) like yourself. However, it should be noted that I had already studied the effects of colonialism on Africans. The colonial mentality is no different from the slave mentality. Many of you guys are in denial but your intellectuals and scholars aren't lol
So you see, we AAs have way too many issues to spend our time hatin' on Africans. We are 50 million strong. The "conscience" era is long gone. AAs like me are a dime-a-dozen nowadays. I never meet any in real life, only on Youtube.
@EgbesuJuju2010 So continental Africans are the least of our worries, we have bigger fish to fry méhiho. I am the sum of my experiences, they've molded me into who I am today. It's not that the overwhelming majority of AAs don't care about Africans, it's that we are too busy trying to solve our own problems. What impressed me about Africans in France was that they knew everything about AA history and were more AA than I was lol
and get some poor Nigerians of any ethnicity to work for me, who cares!! You're trying too hard to impress me. You have a crushing inferiority complex, like most of your kind. I knew you were a fake from the get go, it was just a matter of time before you started showing your true colors lol. You méhiholé yovolé cannot be taken seriously. the barking is loud but the bite is painless.
Beninese people tend to be very proud, you don't find a lot overseas. Of course you can find
@PrinceNoirAmericain 1. Do not hate BAs (just pretentious wannabees) 2.I mention Beninoise workers, most Africans would not find that impressing as Africans we all often travel to neighbor countries to work. 3. I have mentioned 1 thing but Iam trying to impress meanwhile you are hear pretending to speak a lang. you dont speak, talking about royalty, talking about your houses, talking about the throne lol 4. try to be original I abuse you so you throw my words back think of your own, wannabbee
Listen, life is not complicated lol. Everyday people tell me the most off the wall things i've ever heard in my life. Do I believe them? No, nor do I become obsessed with them. If you don't believe anything i've said, then keep it moving lol. It's been two weeks and the discussion hasn't gotten anywhere.
Generally speaking, I don't have any problems with Africans, whether in the real world or the virtual world. However, i've met many ignorant Nigerians who take their arrogance
for intelligence. In France, I met some of the brightest Africans from the Continent, Africans who didn't put on a front and had a certain level of "culture générale". We got on just fine. My sole problem is with these ignorant ones who believe that they know more than Afro-descendants by virtue of being born on the Continent, as if that constituted a substitute for research. I prefer to let them be, because they're always right lol. I clash with those ones...and for some
they've all been from Nigeria but only in the virtual world. When I got back from France, I met two Igbo guys, with whom I became friends. they became like brothers, we did everything together. I briefly dated an Ibibio girl....
So with a population of 160 million souls, naturally there are many good Nigerians out there, despite what I said. However, I seem to run into these hard-headed ones lol
If you go on my page, you will see that the majority of my subscribers, as well as the people who leave comments on my page are African, mainly from French-speaking African countries.
So it's not a problem of me not liking Africans, I don't like certain "PIG-HEADED" individuals
@PrinceNoirAmericain You stupid wannabee, who cares what French use, What you and the French use is irrelevant you are both foreigners. Egun, or Ogu is what Yorubas call the Goun. You act like French have some authority on the subject again showing your colonial, western, ignorant mentality. You may be impressed by the French but I am not and that goes for the British as well. Take your slave mentality else where.
You need to get a life dude. We barely got back from the buffet at Rio here in Las Vegas. I check my mail and see like 10 messages from you. So I come here hoping you brought some evidence to support your absurd claims and all I find is a gorilla foaming at the mouth lol
You are too emotional and sensitive, like a little trick. It must run in the family, those méhiho yovo genes are a curse lol
@PrinceNoirAmericain You are a little kid , empty barrels make the most noise. You talk like you are actually Goun what a wannabbee. Ha, by the way I thought slaves are not accepted as royalty in Goun tradition. YOU NEED TO GROW UP ACCEPT YOU ARE AMERICAN AND NOTHING ELSE. Goun people will always see you as an outsider, and for your information all our groups are related, yes we had war but we are related groups, you being a non African cannot see that, and would like to see us divided.
@PrinceNoirAmericain You in no way can speak for people of Republic of Benin, they are my brothers and our groups have mixed for centuries. Most Porto Novo have Yoruba blood, both groups fought wars and enslaved each other hence the animosity. Goun and Fon groups made up a lot of the Egba slaves and vice versa a lot of these w
not may have committed, he did commit them
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PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Right, dont forget your white blood . You are such a child, you are trying to impress but keep making a fool of yourself. I am sure you know the 8 tribes, keep on with your fantasies. You are Black American accept it.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You can listen to my wife sing a traditional song in Goun about Voudun lol
watch?v=0q47CpDuF40
enjoy mehiho yovo
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain BTW Have you found out that Goun,Egun, Ogu, Gun are all names for the same people. Infact Egun in Nigeria consider Seto as one of their dialects, probably some of them are of Seto origin. You think you know so much but the most basic things you do not know. I grew up in Lagos, I was not just a tourist like you,. Atleast if you are honest you should be able to say you were wrong,remember you called me a retard for suggesting this, so who is the retard?
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You are a retard lol. Egun is not another name for Goun, point blank lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 Now you want to ease up on the insults, anyway its all good as that is not really my style.Well so far I have found out that Oyo Mesi is a title that the Alafin of Oyo gave to councilors, they were a very strong force and were often called king makers. Messi is too similar to be a coincidence. I also learned that the Oyo empire gave protection to Porto Novo against Abomey and that is why Abomey never attacked them because they were afraid of Oyo .
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Yeah because it gets old really fast. Normally, I do not resort to ad hominem attacks. I debate with proven facts.
Well, what does "Messi" mean in Yoruba? My son is named after Ahosu/King Dé-Messé. Dé=Souvereign Father
Méssé=Destiny gave him to us/sé=destiny/sétché=my destiny for example.
So what is the meaning of "Messi"? None of the Goun Ahosulé/Kings had Yoruba names or names derived from the Yoruba language. Perhaps it's a coincidence
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
There is no historical evidence to prove that. Abomey and Xogbonou remained arch enemies til the very end. Xogbonou was often attacked by Abomey. Having conquered all surrrounding Kingdoms, they sought to conquer Xogbonou but they were too powerful and successfully fended off all attacks. The Goun royal army even won some battles and secured new territory. For example, Ahosu Dé-Messé fought against the Dahomean tropps of Tegbessou and took possession of numerous villages along
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 Often Port Novo joined together with the Awori(Lagos) Yoruba to fight the Egba Yorubas of Ogun state. That is how close their relationship was with some Yoruba. This seems to be why a lot ran to Lagos when they were attacked by Fon of Abomey. This group as well as groups from Whydah and perhaps some other groups are collectively known as Egun in Nigeria. Look up Gbe languages the Ewe believe their root is in w. Nigeria (Ketu) and were once a part of Oyo.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain What you should realize is that the coastal groups of W.Africa are all related. As the fish migrated so did the people, setting up fishing camps in the same places and mixing together, genetically as well as culturally. Many Africans are not aware of this, we may go by different names and have changes in our language but the basic culture remains similar. I guess this is why our cultures tend to be accepting and very able to assimilate other groups.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
"As the fish migrated so did the people, setting up fishing camps in the same places and mixing together, genetically as well as culturally."
I agree, this is evident all throughout West Africa
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain All the abuse we went through is ok if in the end we both learn something I cannot hate any black group, we all have our flaws My belief concerning the Americo- Liberians is that they should have been eager to assimilate with their African brothers,reclaiming the culture that was stolen from them, similar to what happened with the Afro- Brazilians.A lot totally assimilated into Yoruba culture and a big problem like what you had in Liberia never existed, anyway we can move on
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Ok i'll respond later on, this is my 2nd account
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SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu WOw how many accounts do you have....@RedSeaBoi @truthdontneeddefense.....You are a pathetic Hatian posing to be an East African so you can get us against each other...wow what a shame.
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Please stop stalking me you weirdo, I am not Haitian. Truthdontneeddefensee is Haitian and we are not the same person. Get a life!!
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 troops**
along the river Ouémé (1752-1757). This is also the period during which many yorubas began migrating to Xogbonou but they weren't able to move to the city until 20 years later. This also marks the introduction of islam into the region.
Ahosu Dé-Gbegnon (1761-1775) also fought against the Ahosulé Abomeytonlé/Kings of Abomey and destroyed the villages of Godomey and Abomey Calavi
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Ahosu Dé-Houézé 1818-1828) , grand son of the founder of Xogbonou(Té-Agbanlin) was victorious in his battle against the Sovereign of Gbadagry Lagos ( NIgéria ) . So you see, Abomey and Hogbonou fought til the very end.
As far as Oyo is concerned, Xogbonou never served as a vassal, never paid any taxes etc, according to the information I have, to the Kingdom of Oyo. Oyo was an enemy Kingdom and remained such until the French established a protectorate over Xogbonou
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Anyway, Ahosu Dé-Toffa didn't really have the choice, Oyo had fallen in the hands of the British and the British were bombarding Xogbonou from Oyo. This is why Ahosu Dé-toffa accepted French military assistance and the requirements imposed by the French(protectorate) So Xogbonou was never conquered by neighboring African Kingdoms, it simply suffered the same fate as every other African Kingdom
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Yes, we can move on. I'll respond tomorrow, i'm tired one love man
Séwénami Ahosu
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu lol she wont quit lol
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
I know, right lol
So your other account was closed?
Btw, do you speak Haitian Kreyol?
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu oui pale haitain creole pukisa lol
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
lol sounds nice
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu oh lol
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
What words in Haitian Kreyol come from languages spoken in Benin such as Fon/Goun?
Do you guys use "tché"=my, for example "assi tché"= my wife/. According to a study carried out by a Congolese linguist, there are more words belonging to languages spoken in Congo in Haitian Kreyol than words belonging to languages spoken in Benin. His belief is that Congolese tribes were dominant among the slaves brought to Saint Domingue
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
which would directly contradict the theory according to which the majority of your ancestors came from Benin
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu ok Yea because I can understand west African people. no we dont have those words ""tché"=my, for example "assi tché"= my wife/. "
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
Quand ils disent en créole : «moun, timoun, granmoun (ce qui veut dire respectivement en français: humain, enfant, adulte), ça vient de mouna, moutou. Le mot malanga (patate), c'est pratiquement des mots qui viennent du Congo», a-t-il fait savoir.
Autre mot évoqué par T
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu omg yes marasa means twin also moun timoun gran moun yes ..lol
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
lol, content que tu aies pu trouver l'article :-)
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu d'accord merci
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) lol
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
So your other account was closed?
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
the word "marasa" means "twin" and he says that there is no other tribe in Africa which uses that word except a tribe found in Congo
Do you use that word?
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
Anyway, it hasn't been scientifically proven but the article is an interesting read :-)
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu yes but Hiatains do come from Congo Benin and ghana , nigria mainly west so of course it is true
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
I'll try to find the study, he gave some convincing examples
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
I found the article, the title is "les ancêtres des Haïtiens proviennent du Congo et non du Bénin/Haitians' ancestors come from Congo, not from Benin. I will copy and paste the examples he gives
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@truthneednodefensee
homas Vanda : marasa (jumeau). Selon le spécialiste, et nous le citons textuellement d'ailleurs : «il n'y a aucune tribu en Afrique qui utilise ce mot pour désigner les jumeaux que la tribu de mon père. Ce n'est pas un mot que l'on trouve au Bénin».
SewenamiAhosu 1 year ago
@SewenamiAhosu merci beaucoup J'ai trouve l'article sur l'une de haitiweb
truthneednodefensee 1 year ago
It is fascinating in the sense that the name "Goun", if this legend is accurate, probably comes from the princess 'Da-Goun).
If you are going to debate, please provide your sources, I want facts, not opinion.
ciao ciao
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
That is the most absurd thing i've ever heard in my life. Go to Benin and say that, you will be laughed out of the country. According to Olakunle Abimbola,, "irst of all, I need to explain the change of name from Dahomey to Benin. Intellectuals and those who come from Atakora, Borgu and other areas of the North had always opposed the name Dahomey. They never liked that name. Why? Because Dahomey came from Abomey, a Kingdom in the middle of the country. This kingdom traded in slaves
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain borgu came from Nigeria so did Fon groups . They are are a sub group of the Gbe speaking groups like the Ewe of Togo and Ghana, their original home is Ketu in Nigeria. Goun or as we call them Egun are sub groups of this language group. They were driven west by the Oyo. That is a fact. You are a kid Ijaw Killer, come to Ijaw land and you will wet your pants ,such bravery on IT.Porto Novo was dominated by the Oyo and paid tribute to the Alafin of Oyo another fact.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You are a Méhiho Yovo(Whte slave). You have to learn how to properly address your superior boy. You shall address me as "Ahosou", got that boy? For the last time méhiho, Xogbonou was never, ever dominated by Oyo, quite to the contrary, many Yoruba villages were conquered by Xogbonou. The Xogbonoutonlé were never forced into submission, they successfully resisted Yoruba invasions from the beginning to the end. Also, can you please provide your sources because
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain HA ha ha, look at the pot calling the kettle black. Your ancestors were white slaves, that is your history not mine. You are hear trying to claim another persons culture as your own, why because you claim to have married an African wife. In case you do not know the wife follows the culture of the husband, not the other way round, but you have no culture, so you have become a wife to your woman, imbecile. You are superior at fantasy and that is all.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Till today your people in Liberia are not accepted, you think the Goun accept you, lol what a fool you are. Then you come with your BA INFERIORITY COMPLEX, AND TALK ABOUT OTHER AFRICAN GROUPS AS IF YOU SPEAK FOR GOUN PEOPLE. You are a real loser and you know it, you have no culture so you latch on to any culture that sounds good. You are probably one of those whose ancestors were banished and sold into slavery from Angola. You are inferior in intellect, as well as a fool.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
I do speak for the Goun, you are HATED in Hogbonou, no one likes you lol, that is a fact. It is not my problem but yours monkey mehiho yovo
Gotta go back to work lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Do you think that actually bothers me, you obviosly know very little about Nigerians. You like using the word monkey for black people, you half breed rat, you could never speak for Goun and if you think you do that only shows how stupid you are. I assure you a Goun would see me as a brother before you, no matter our histories why because you are black American, the whole black race detest you, but I dont I understand you are just ignorant, cn't help your stupidity.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
there's hardly any documentation about the Goun in English lol. The "Egun" are not the "Goun" retard lol. Another historical distortion, Xogbonou never payed tribute to the Alafin of Oyo but Abomey did lol. You are not as smart as you think, actually you are quite obtuse. The Gun migrated from Adja-Tado (Azamé). The Ewe, the Aiyizo,
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain EGUN,Ewe, are the same people so are Goun, groups are called by different names in different countries. You are not even a Goun , you are a black American stop pretending to be what you are not. The Ewe groups from Adja- Tado migrated from Ketu, this is something most w.Africans know but you are a foreigner so I excuse your stupidity. Even the Ewe in Ghana will tell you the are Omo Oduduwa,
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Hey Mehiho Yovo, you're back here aping around lol. You just can't accept your defeat can you lol. We don't have a culture but AA culture dominates the world lol. Even, in Benin they imitate us lol You are way too emotional, which is why you keep reminding me that i'm not Goun. Perhaps you have reading comprehension problems or you're simply dyslexic. I told you already, my wife is Ahovi and we have a son together. My son is half AA, half Goun. Goun history is now part of
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
his history, his maternal history. He will be rased with the best of AA and Goun values. We're not raising him to be AA nor Goun, we're raising him to be a Pan-African lol.
Of course the wife follows the culture of the husband, traditionally speaking but we're not a traditional African couple. For us, it's a matter of "mutual influence". She has a very rich culture, there's no reason for her to abandon her culture to follow mine. It's about fusion, we're mixing
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
the fusion of two distinct cultures. They did not migrate from Ketu. The history of the Goun is well documented, no where in the oral traditions, is there any mention of a migration from Ketu to Adja-Tado retard lol. Talk about intellect, you are intellectually lethargic. Instead of acknowledging your lack of knowledge as it pertains to Benin, you keep coming back with these absurd and unsubstantiated claims which you pull out of your ape behind
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Keep studying, ps copying and posting is not learning, you will find out soon enough.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 Ps ask your wife who are Egun, I hope atleast she knows.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
PrinceNoirAmericain=BlackAmericanPrince lol, notice how I didn't call myself "PrinceNoirGoun" lol, BA is an ethnicity idiot lol. I am a proud BA, have you been on my page? Why would I need to impress an page? You are a MEHIHO YOVO, my royal African family wouldn't let you anywhere near me. We'd keep your animalistic, savage behind outside, tied to the wall you méhiho dog. "Mehiho Yovo asks " do you think that actually bothers me? Of course it bothers you dumb@ss
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain
some in N i g e e r r i a, Ghana, Togo, Gabon but generally speaking, they prefer to stay at home. The Fon-Goun conflict doesn't interest me, they all have negative things to say about each other. So telling me what your imaginary Fon workers said is pointless. You can't play the tribal card with me. First of all, i'm not Goun. Secondly, I can see through you. You are a hypocrite like most of your kind. Your days are numbered, my son who is ahovi will rise to power
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain
I just may ask him to expel the Nago from Hogbonou.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Ha hA HA , GO PLAY WITH SOME BOYS, as most of your group do, I have never seen a black culture with so many faggots, 90% chance you are one of these down low. Leave our African women why don't you marry your good for nothing BA girls. Nothing you say can ever bother me, and as I told you I believe nothing you say so keep your stupid videos, you know nothing of Vodun, little kid, AND KNOW ONE IN THAT VIDEO EVEN KNOWS YOU, go to disney world and act out your fantasies.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
The Neglokpe, the Hweno, the Hwla, the Xweda and the Fon all come from Adja-Tado. The Fon and the Goun have the same ancestors, which is why Goun is a sister language to Fon. They were initially "one people". After succession disputes regarding the throne of Allada,, the two sons of the 2nd king "Lansouhouto" had to separate. The oldest (Té-Agbanlin) founded Xogbonou and the other, Dako migrated to Abomey. But Dako is not the founder of Dahomey but rather Houégbadja.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
The entire history is told in this song titled "Abomey/Hogbonou", which talks about the reconciliation between Dahomey and Xogbonou, in other words the Fon and The Goun. It is my son's favorite song..... So these two groups are descended from the Adja
Summary: the Goun and the Fon belong to the same historical group which migrated from Adja-Tado and therefore are descended from the Adja. they founded the kingdom of Allada and following succession disputes,
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Yes they reconciled as they are brother tribes, but they were dominated by ABOMEY, WHO WERE DOMINATED BY YORUBA. No colonization lasts forever, and the strongest tribes were weak at one point. But the fact is that the Yorubas dominated ABOMEY, yes they defeated some Yoruba villages, but no Yoruba kingdom paid tribute to them as the Abomey paid to the ALAFIN. bUT ALL THIS IS NO CONCERN OF YOURS, YOU ARE A FOREIGNER. Keep learning our history as your own is slavery.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
I think this is going to be my last response. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. In your case, we can lead a monkey to bananas but we can force it to eat ‘em. The discussion is sterile and utterly boring. Your narrow-minded views and lack of intellectual honesty are an impediment to dialogue. Your abysmal ignorance and unjustified and inexplicable arrogance(because you are far from being bright) is exasperating. In terms of African history
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
you’ve merely scratched the surface but instead of being humble and learning from others who KNOW more than you, you prefer to wallow in ignorance. Because your pride, what little you have, is based on the erroneous assumption that you know more than others by virtue of being born in THE most corrupt African nation on the continent. For the past two weeks, Ihave not expressed my own views nor formulated my own opinions. Everything I’ve stated either comes
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
the two sons of the 2nd King (Lansouhouto) separated. Té-Agbanlin founded Xogbonou and Dako migrated to Abomey. Houégbadgja founded Dahomey. As previously stated, all these ethnic groups come from Adja-Tado. their migration is associated with a legend according to which the daughter of the King of Tado one day met a harmless panther which gave her a son. The child was born a few months later and was named "Agasu". He was raised in the royal court and fathered numerous children.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
One of his children killed the prince who was to inherit the throne. He flees with the skull of the prince and his father's spear to Allada, where he founds his Kingdom. He was given the name "Adjahouto", killer of Adja, as he had killed the prince of Adja. His children would become kings. And as I said, under the reign of the 2nd King Lasanouhouto, his two children separated, one founding Xogbonou and the other migrating to Abomey. I am not Goun, I am African American
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
because in Goun culture, ethnicity is paternal. That being said, Goun history is part of his maternal history. As parents, it is incumbent upon us to transmit both AA history and Goun history to our son. I married into a Goun royal family. It is my responsibility to see to it that my son's maternal history is not distorted. Also, not enough is known about the Goun so I try to promote Goun culture, to show the extraordinary beauty of it.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Unfortunately, in Xogbonou, the youth is more into "African American" culture than into Goun culture, hopefully that will change. For the last time, we have a house in Porto-Novo, my son will be raised there, my Goun brothers and sisters treat me like any other African living in Porto-Novo. Well I can't say that, they find it more "interesting" to meet an African American in Porto-Novo than an Ijaw, for example, from Nigeria or any other African for that matter lol.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain You do not understand Africa. Ha they find it interesting to meet you, they want to exploit you trust me, if you are poor they will treat you like the dirt you are. AND STOP TELLING ME WHERE YOU HAVE HOUSES, nobody cares,typical BA boastful character, I am not impressed, anyone can build a house in PORTO NOVO it is no big deal. But for a BA may be your impressed with your self.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 from the oral accounts or from years of painstaking research carried out by AFRICAN historians. You have not provided not one verifiable historical document to support your claims. You have a very unscientific way of demonstrating historical verities. I’ve asked you on numerous occasions to cite your sources. People who have true knowledge do not settle for making unsubstantiated historical assertions, they provide evidence to reinforce their claims
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 You didn’t know the history of Benin, I told it to you. The reason why I know this is because you don’t have access to oral accounts, which have been passed down from generation to generation. You don’t speak Goun nor do you speak French, so where are you getting your fragmentary information from? Are we to believe that certain Nigerian tribes have documented the complete history of Benin and its various tribes? Are you even aware of the fact that tribes
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain All lies
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Are you even aware of the fact that tribes who share common history, who have lived side by side for centuries, oftentimes have mutually contradictory oral accounts? In many instances, the history of certain tribes has been falsified by other tribes. The Serere of Senegal are a prime example. You keep talking about acceptance, you mentally colonized baboons are always seeking white approval and tend to project your insecurities onto others. Whether the Goun
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
accept me or not is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the historical facts I’ve stated. We’re talking about more than 300 000 people. Do you really think that when I’m in , I go up to Goun brothers and sisters asking them “Do you accept me” lol. Are you mentally challenged or what? I roam Africa like dinosaurs once roamed the Earth. I do what I want and go where I want. When I’m in Benin, walking in the streets, you cannot tell where I’m from. Very often,
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Now you are really on to some gibberish, seeking white approval, ha now where did that nonsense come from. And I bet you they can tell, you are not Goun. Little kid fantasizing again, dinosaurs, you really are full of crap.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 people think I am Beninese. Even here in the U.S., on many occasions, Africans have come up to me and my wife asking us if we’re from Benin lol. I always say “ I’m AA and she’s Beninese’. I rep my people wherever I go. When I tell people in Benin that I’m AA, I am treated very kindly. Because it’s more interesting for them to meet an African American returnee than it is to meet a Mehiho Yovo Ijaw from N I I g g e ria lol, that’s just the reality of it.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Was waiting for you to use the N word, you have no shame, you hate yourself, calling other blacks gorrillas monkeys and apes, now the N word, I pity your wife and I can assure you that your relationship will fail, as soon as Beninoise start to show you their true colours, you will hate them too. juST REMEMBER i TOLD YOU SO . you are a self hating racist, but the race you hate is your own.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
This is not a scoop mehiho yovo. Slavery happened over 400 years ago. All your kingdoms fell into ruin, you were colonized, enslaved on your own lands There were slaves in Somali, Cameroon. In fact, the capital of Gabon was founded by slaves. You have slave descendants in various African countries. But what’s more is that slavery persists, it has taken new forms. I could literally go to Africa right now and buy “human beings”. That is your problem, not mine.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain HA you think colonization is slavery but the BA's predicament in America is not. Europeans could not even own land in Nigeria, some kind of slavery that was. A few BA's made it singing and playing with a ball and you think you have made it. You are getting left behind, you families are non existant, children have no fathers, most men are gay,but you are the strongest tribe, it is all in your imagination, dont forget a lot of your population is in jail, training new BA gays,
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Yes, we are the strongest and most influential tribe, fact lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You are mehihole today. You are an embarrassment to the negro-african race. Your countries are still under colonial tutelage, you are not capable of running your countries. And if the White man were to grant you TRUE independence, you’d genocide each other out of existence. You said I’m claiming a culture that isn’t mine. Where and when did I say that I am Goun? Lol. I said my wife is Goun and that my son is half Goun. My mother-in-law is Setto and my father-in-law
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain And you have no country, you are treated like garbage in US, So please run your own country first if you can. The first black presidant, is he BA, NO, he is African, Africans in America have a higher success level than you in your own country, so if we are doing bad you would do worse, and talk about yourself, I am sure if you wife wants she can talk about her family, lets hear about your own family, Prince lol
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
is Goun. Naye(mama) became Goun through marriage. However, she didn’t abandon her culture but she did adopt certain customs. But from my understanding, they influenced each other mutually. You have a very simplistic view of Africans. Even if I had no children, I’d still learn Goun culture for when you love someone, you want to know everything about that person, especially their history. I don’t follow any specific culture, I follow what is right.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
We take the best from both cultures mehiho. Latching on to a culture meanings embracing a culture to which you have no connection. I haven’t embraced Goun culture. I am married to a Goun and my son is half Goun, that’s my connection. However, my son’s first language is Goun followed by French. I am not white washed like many African parents. I would never ever give priority to the white man’s language over an African language. For the last time gorilla,
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Hogbonou is not Dahomey. Hogbonou never paid tribute to any Kingdom. Hogbonou never paid tribute to Dahomey nor to Oyo, ask any Beninese historian. They were never dominated, the Goun were never enslaved. However, a few Goun kings did sell their own subjects, particularly Ahosou De-Houyl
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
In Porto-Novo, you have an ethnic group called "afro-brazilian", they are descendants of slaves who came back from Brazil in the 19th century I believed and received a warm welcome from King De-Toffa, of hom my wife is a direct descendant. Yes, I can speak for the Republic of Benin for I am more knowledgeable of its history than you are. I am also Ahovi lol. They are not your brothers and sisters and if you and I
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain AFRO BRAZILLIANS are all over the coasts in W.Africa, this is nothing particular to Benin. I laugh at you, you say they are not my brothers and sisters, you are so ignorant it is ridiculous. In case you do not know, they speak a Gbe language, part of the Kwa language family we all speak, we broke off from the main group at different times hence the differences in language. You are such a fool,a little common sense and you would be able to see this.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You are behaving like a jealous freak. You are not on my level, you are an inferior. The Ijaw haven't accomplished anything in contemporary times. The most powerful tribe on the face of this earth is the AA tribe to which I belong. Where do people study Ijaw history and who has even heard of you mehihole yovole? Everywhere on this planet, you see certain aspects of AA culture, from Japan, to France all the way to Benin. You are the biggest followers in the history of mankind
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Do not make me laugh, you have a little money because you are in a country that put you to work and made money off your blood and sweat, and gave you nothing, and by the way you are the weakest, materialsm does not mean strength. I find it so funny you think we are jealous of you, most African as well as caribbean would take it as an insult to be called a BA and that isa fact. BTW i AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUNG TEENS. also all the countries resent your cultural influence.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
you claim to have a culture and yet, you imitate our slave culture lol. That is what I call the "African paradox", this widespread belief in a superior culture all while imitating AA culture. No other human group in this world can boast about as many cultural innovations as AAs, which is why we are known all throughout the world
I am ahovi and one day, I will be Ahosu. I am royalty now
now get off my nutts you inferior ape
ijawhouto
ciao
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Ican only speak for myself, and I do not imitate your culture also young kids always experiment with new things as they get older they come to their senses, it is not so unusual.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
were to go to Benin, they'd treat me better than you lol. You are only known for 419, deceit, lies, dishonesty and your reputation precedes you lol. The Goun are not oppressed by the yoruba lol, where did you get that from? You have a habit of making up stuff, it's as if I said "the Bamiléké are oppressed by the Douala" lol. The Goun run Porto-Novo and it is a Goun who will become president in Febuary (Adrien Houngbedji) lol. My mother-in-law belongs to the "Seto"
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Boasting again I do not care who your wifes family is, and Egun are oppressed by Yoruba, Egun and Goun are the same people, like Nago and Yoruba
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Hogbonoutole adjatado mehetron,hideunkplon hin...... Amangnon hogbonoutole wekpo dognon otanheton,winwekplowe otanlor. togbemin adonazehedewe,madonawedor hogbonoutowegnimi,ndo assitchewegni hogbonouto bo ovitche ni americain da hogbonouto da.Ahoviwegnimi dji,ni ejrolowe kpoemadjrowe kpo, eninhoutou adonasimi.
Mehiho Yovo!!!!!!!!!!
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain hA hA, RUN OUT OF AN ARGUEMENT,so you start pretending to speak Goun, are you 6, what a kid you are. I am sure Goun is a beautiful language like most African languages are but I do not speak it so keep wasting your time trying to impress, you are a fake, you do not speak this language so what are you trying to prove, stick to your ebonics, simpleton.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Fluently? Not yet but i'll get there. It's just a question of time lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Dont be so sure.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
ethnic group but of course became Goun through marriage. She is a very wise woman and is also Ahovi. I told her what you said and she laughed lol. You are an ignorant fool. I already told you the history behind the name "Benin", it had nothing to do with liking or disliking Nigerians. You should go talk with real Beninese people, especially Goun bros and sis. Perhaps if they tell it to you
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain BTW my house is full of Beninoise workers, and the funny thing is all the Fon-gbe dislike the workers from Porto Novo, they say the are lazy, and the kind to make money without doing even half a days work. They say fetish is their 419. ps Beninoise do 419, they are just not that good at it. But they try, also they deal drugs, and are heavily involved in armed robbery, we all have are sour spots. Also they call them Yorubas. I guess its because their blood is mixed.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
because you've been here for the past two weeks filling up my inbox with incoherent ape droppings. I am in your head now and you KNOW it. I'm not interested in your people Méhiho, I told you already, if you were to be wiped off the face of the earth, you wouldn't be missed. No one respects you, you dogs are nothing but "western-owned property" lol. Yes, I speak for
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
my Goun brothers and sisters méhihi aholinou(Nigerian slave), that's why you pay close attention to everything that comes out of my royal mouth lol. You are jealous méhiho yovo, as evidenced by your constant moaning and whining about me speaking for the Goun. You big oversized ape. You sound like a little kid who'd rather live in fantasy land than face reality. A Goun would NEVER see you as a brother. You wouldn't even be able to marry into a Goun family kiddo lol.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain No I just want to mess with this ignorant akata who thinks he knows too much. I will assure you what ever crime Nigerians do they will never be as hated as BAs. Most who do not likes us do think we are smart, most of the black race sees you as imbeciles, who do really dumb,drug crazed crimes, like sticking up old ladies. ps most Africans with any mentality understand the brotherhood of Africans especially W.aFRICANS.. BEEING A HALF BREED OF NO NATION WOULD NOT KNOW.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You are the most hated people in the world, just leave your jungle and you will see méhiho yovo lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
I like how you're desperately tryng to prove to a Black American that te Goun would accept your méhiho yovo behind lol.You are beneath them, they'd only take you as a méhiho. You are loathed and despised everywhere in Africa, not just in Hogbonou, that is a FACT, now deal with it méhiho. Méhiho says "The whole Black race detests you" ahahahahah, dream on. Your failed state
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain DONT FORGET WE ARE A VERY DOMINANT FORCE IN AFRICA, but we see it more like big brothers. Africa has a love hate relationship with Nigeria, you would not know that. Btw a lot of Goun are mixed with Nigerian Yorubas so talk some sense even Fon groups call them Yorubas.You BAs are always looking for some great tribe to belong to, to make up for your destroyed self esteem, trust me the Gouns ridicule you behind your back, wife included. I do not blame her she married a buffoon
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
The Fon do not refer to them as "Yorubas" lol, another lie. Ignorance is your middle name huh méhiho?
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Personally, I don't believe anything you say. You lot are known for deceit and dishonesty. You can't be trusted. Now you are slandering Goun brothers and sisters. You see, it's so easy to get you guys to turn against each other, to pit tribes against each other. Your reputation is sulfurous, do you realize that all throughout Europe, your women work as prostitutes. And It is not the mythical White Man who got them into that mess but their fellow Nigerian brothers
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
We don't say "Beninoise", take off the "e", it is "Beninois". So now you would have me believe that there are Beninese people working for you. Even if it were true, who cares? I told you already, I could literally buy Nigerian children and women. You guys do it all the time. The women are forced into prostitution, become sex slaves and the children work for the wealthy of society, this is all too common. Does that make me superior to them? No!! I could go to Nigeria and get
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain You actually have no idea how these things work. And dont worry about my spellings, is that all you got. Answer this question are Egun and Goun the same people? And who is we, keep pretending you are from republic of Benin. I will continue showing you what a big fool you are . Talk is cheap, even with that you cannot be original, keep repeating things I say, you are a loser and you know it
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
the Nago are seen as foreigners lol. Do you understand that the Nago were conquered and played no relevant role throughout the history of Xogbonou? Do you understand that all the Yoruba villages were conquered? Do you want the names of the Yoruba villages that were conquered? When Té-Agbanlin founded Xogbonou, there were a few badly structured and poorly organized Yoruba chiefdoms that were conquered by Té-Agbanlin lol lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Yoruba villages were conquered,yes, but their empire was not, however Abomey was a vassal to Oyo Abomey was a Kingdom, not a village. And the Goun are heavily mixed with their blood and also assmilated a lot of Yoruba babalawos into their Vodun religion. Both empires were enemies and enslaved each other it does not make anyone superior. We assume in a war both sides gain prisoners.Ethiopia colonized Yemen, those Habesha left behind are treated as slaves even though they were
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Your ramblings are an utter bore, i'm only reading the 1st line now lol. Why don't you go play somewhere méhiho yovo, you are becoming obsessed with me. Normally I avoid your kind like the plague but I decided to give you a chance and I regret. Talking to you or trying to talk some sense into you is equivalent to talking to a brick wall lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
spare me the ad hominem attacks méhiho yovo lol, your jealousy is shining through lol. I managed to get you to come back for 2 weeks straight lol. I am in your tiny head now lol. You wake up thinking about me huh méhiho pédé
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain the dominant group. Yemen resents that period so they are hostile to the Ethiopians who remained. This is similar to the situation of Abomey and OYO. YOU ACT LIKE IT WAS YOUR OWN ACCOMPLISHMENT. Your history begins with slavery unfortunately. PS I am in no way insulting Goun people, as I said we are brothers,that does not mean we both do not have flaws. You seem to get joy from African groups having conflict which just shows you do not belong, you are not one of us.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Le fait est que les Nigérians sont partout méprisés, personne ne peut vous blairer. Tu dis qu'on vous déteste mais qu'on vous reconnaît une certaine intelligence lol, mon oeil. Si ton niveau d'intelligence est représentatif de celui de l'écrasante majorité des Nigérians, alors là, permets-moi de te dire que vous êtes loin d'être intelligents lol. Loin de là, vous êtes intellectuellement déficient. J'ai l'impression depuis deux semaines de parler à un gamin âgé de deux ans
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
themselves, you will believe me lol. Your country has its own problems of tribalism, which is perfectly normal considering that the country is an artificial creation, like most of these micro states. There is no intertribal, interethnic harmony in your country. Even if some Goun may dislike the Fon and vice-versa or the Yoruba and vice-versa, for the most part, it is an ethnically peaceful country. I don't know what the "Egoun" are. In Benin, "Egoun" refers to the spirits
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
of the dead. Perhaps this term is used in English to refer to present-day ethnic groups in Benin but it's not used in French. The most accurate documentation is in French but one should always refer to the oral tradition.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain Now how interesting it means the same thing in Yoruba. I believe it is because when Oyo conquered this region they were the indigenes,a kin of respect, a masquerade still exists in their memory called Egungun. Most of their group migrated west, and Ewe broke off from the larger group to form their own identity. A lot seeking greener pastures, moved back Badagry is their town where they live by the water, with and like Ijaws. WE ARE BOTH CONSIDERED AROMIRE, LOVERS OF WATER.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
has become a key player in the drug trade. Those little plastic balls of cocain you swallow are now starting to go to your head méhiho lol, quit while you can. You have made a complete fool of yourself for the entire world to see. You are frustrated, that's understandable. You're not used to being schooled by AAs lol. Well get used to it méhiho yovo, I am your ahovi. I am protected by the voudoulé. come to Benin and the voudoulé will chase you into the river lol.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Can you read or what? Egun is not synonymous with "Goun". No Goun in Benin refers to him or herself as "Egun". This is what I meant by "you lack humility". forget about my wife for a second. This is coming directly from nayé, my mother-in-law. "Egun" doesn't equal "Goun, the Goun do not refer to themselves as "Egun" nor are they even aware that they are referred to as such.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
If you go to Benin and call a Goun "Egun", they will immediately think you're talking about the spirits of the dead". For the last time, this term is not used to describe the Goun in Benin. also, my mother-in-law confirmed what i've already stted, the Goun did not come from Kétou. You are IGNORANT and you conceal your ignorance behind the fact that you were born in N i g g e r i a. Being born on the continent is not a substitute for research.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
The average African wouldn't be capable of telling you his or her complte tribal history, let alone that of neighboring tribes found in the same country. You haven't studied Goun history because there's no documentation in English lol. I'm no longer studying Goun history, I know it by heart. Initially, I told you what I knew, you doubted the historical veracity of the info I provided you on the basis of me being American.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Then I quoted some AFRICAN historians. I know how some méhiholé africanoulé are, they're not going to take your word for it but if it comes from well-respected African historians, then they might consider it. "I bet they can tell you are not Goun" lol. I told you I am AFRICA!! I blend in wherever I go. One day, I told my colleague who is from Cameroon and belongs to the Ngemba tribe, that I can tell he's African. Apparently, he was offended
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain O I guess I am wrong, one African that means all Africans are like that, and if he was offended I am not suprised he is your friend. Birds of the same feather flock together.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Ferme ta sale gueule de gorille
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
I roll with down-to-earth individuals, who got their head on their shoulders and who are humble enough to admit when they're wrong. I told you a 1000 times that in Benin, the word "egun" refers to the spirits of the dead. If you go to Benin and ask someone on the street "where can I find the Egun", they'll look at you like you're crazy.
I asked you a 1000 times to check the oral accounts but you keep coming back with this nonsense
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
I have better things to do than to argue with a Nigerian about a subject of which he obviously has no knowledge.
This back and forth nonsense has to stop today.
Tell me what you want to tell me and we will leave it at that. I prefer to debate with enlightened individuals
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
people wouldn't be able to tell us apart lol. You guys have seriously issues lol. In Benin, whether in boubou or ordinary clothes, you cannot look at me and know that i'm from the Diaspora. I have one of those faces, I can blend in anywhere. It is an established fact that AAs are the most accomplished Blacks in the world. I am a
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain They live in the west so economically they are in and advantageous area. Nigerians by ratio have more Phds, Masters degrees, and probably bachelor degrees, These are Nigerians with the same advantage of being in the west, we even have higher educational ratios than your white American brothers. Lot of BAs can have African looks, but few our mentality, once your mouth is opened you stick out like a sore thumb, and I am not talking about accent.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
For the last time, I don't care about you méhiholé yovolé, stop trying to prove to me that you lot are actually worth something. You are an embarrassment to the negro-african race. You haven't accomplished anything since your white colonial masters supposedly granted you independence. Supposedly because the entire world knows that you are still beholden to the west. You are losers in our eyes, we won't respect you. Most of you méhiholé are far too brainwashed
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
to realize you are nothing more than the white man's puppet. You are not hated because you are supposedly successful, you are hated by the entire world because you are a bunch of heathens, thieves, criminals who bring your thieving ways with you wherever you go. Now you lot are going to Brazil getting those brothers involved in the drug trade. Everywhere you go, you bring your criminal nature.
As for AAs, only the best go abroad. We establish respectable communities
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
wherever we go. In France, the AA community is comprised of teachers, scientists, writers, musicians. We are well respected all across the globe. You will never enjoy such international prestige because your people are good for nothing. Oh wait a minute, you are good for something...for forcing your women into prostitution in European countries lol
I don't care about how many PHD holders are in your God-forsaken communities, you haven't done anything with the white man's
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
education lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
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@EgbesuJuju2010
I will never respect you, I look down upon you, so give it up already.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
proud American and will always defend my country. Benin is my 2nd country, the blood is in the family now. when I get tired of the U.S, I tell assi tché "I can't wait to go back home" lol. Once again, I roam Africa like dinosaurs once roamed the Earth. I have a little money because I handled my business méhiho. Materialism doesn't impress me and I do not attach great importance to being wealthy. I take care of my family, that's all that matters to me.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You are JEALOUS méhiho yovo for you are merely a subject, I am ahovi, the royal blood is in the family lol.
One thing you have to understand is that prior to my move to France where I spent close to 5 years, I had never met any Africans. I grew up in Elk Grove Ca. My grand mother, RIP, was the first Black person to buy a house overthere. So it wasn't until I got to France that I began meeting
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain And what is your point. The blood is in your wife and you have no idea who you are talking to so you cannot know my bloodline. I am jealous of a person I see as a fool, ps what was your grand father doing. Royalty lol keep riding on your wife's family, I hope they read all this and see what an imbecile they are connected to. You probably mention royalty more than they do, showing you do not have an drop of royal blood, you are so overwhelmed, hope they read this.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
For get about my wife's family méhiho yovo, forget about the royalty. the discussion is over, get lost lol.
In all seriousness méhiho, i'm bored now. I am not in denial about anything. I am aware of the high incarceration rates among AA males, the shockingly high percentage of children being born out of wedlock, the disintegration of the family unit, the high prevalence of HIV in certain areas and the on going gang-related violence, as well as all the other problems
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
with which we are confronted. I have never denied our issues. However, when we analyze the situation of Africans back home, we come to the conclusion that given the enormous problems affecting your countries and communities, crticizing AAs is equivalent to throwing stones from a glass house.
LOL so my reasoning consists of saying, if you are not doing better than us overall, then you have no room to talk. You'd be better off tackling your numerous problems.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Despite our issues, at least we don't offer our children to European paedophiles. We don't enslave our children, we don't sell them to the highest bidder. We don't put our women in sex dens, we don't kill women, children and elderly people with machetes just because they belong to a different religion.
We don't hate our own brothers and sisters over superficial differences. Some irresponsible AA fathers may abandon their children but they are still looked after by a member
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
of the family. How many abandon children are there in your neck of the woods. Your orphinages are overwhelmed.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Africans. To make a long story short, I married a French woman, whose two best friends were African. A Wolof sis from Senegal and a Berbère sis from Morocco. Those two sisters were the 1st two Africans I met. I didn't begin dating African/French-Caribbean women until I separated from my wife.There were no big cultural differences. Many Africans of recent French extraction are "African-Americanized". Our culture is dominant in France. However,
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
However, I didn't intend to marry an African sis. , I was only interested in having fun. Dating African women wasn't an accomplishment. In France, many like AAs, so if you're AA and find some of them attractive, you'll end up dating some. In fact, most AAs date African women for the 1st time abroad (UK, Italy, France, Germany etc), not that big of a deal. I'm not so naive as to think
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain HA I lived in Calais for three months, it definitely is no accomplishment to get a French woman. That could be done in a 2 hr stop over.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Who give's a f..k about French women méhiho lol. You missed the whole point lol. I wasn't bragging about having been married to a French woman lol and I never stated that Africans can't get French women lol. That's just part of my story kiddo lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
that all Africans like AAs simply because we're AA lol. However, I didn't know that there were "haters" until I got back to the U.S, almost 5 years later. that's when I found out that there are méhholé yovolé" (white slaves) like yourself. However, it should be noted that I had already studied the effects of colonialism on Africans. The colonial mentality is no different from the slave mentality. Many of you guys are in denial but your intellectuals and scholars aren't lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
So you see, we AAs have way too many issues to spend our time hatin' on Africans. We are 50 million strong. The "conscience" era is long gone. AAs like me are a dime-a-dozen nowadays. I never meet any in real life, only on Youtube.
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 So continental Africans are the least of our worries, we have bigger fish to fry méhiho. I am the sum of my experiences, they've molded me into who I am today. It's not that the overwhelming majority of AAs don't care about Africans, it's that we are too busy trying to solve our own problems. What impressed me about Africans in France was that they knew everything about AA history and were more AA than I was lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
and get some poor Nigerians of any ethnicity to work for me, who cares!! You're trying too hard to impress me. You have a crushing inferiority complex, like most of your kind. I knew you were a fake from the get go, it was just a matter of time before you started showing your true colors lol. You méhiholé yovolé cannot be taken seriously. the barking is loud but the bite is painless.
Beninese people tend to be very proud, you don't find a lot overseas. Of course you can find
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain 1. Do not hate BAs (just pretentious wannabees) 2.I mention Beninoise workers, most Africans would not find that impressing as Africans we all often travel to neighbor countries to work. 3. I have mentioned 1 thing but Iam trying to impress meanwhile you are hear pretending to speak a lang. you dont speak, talking about royalty, talking about your houses, talking about the throne lol 4. try to be original I abuse you so you throw my words back think of your own, wannabbee
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
Listen, life is not complicated lol. Everyday people tell me the most off the wall things i've ever heard in my life. Do I believe them? No, nor do I become obsessed with them. If you don't believe anything i've said, then keep it moving lol. It's been two weeks and the discussion hasn't gotten anywhere.
Generally speaking, I don't have any problems with Africans, whether in the real world or the virtual world. However, i've met many ignorant Nigerians who take their arrogance
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
for intelligence. In France, I met some of the brightest Africans from the Continent, Africans who didn't put on a front and had a certain level of "culture générale". We got on just fine. My sole problem is with these ignorant ones who believe that they know more than Afro-descendants by virtue of being born on the Continent, as if that constituted a substitute for research. I prefer to let them be, because they're always right lol. I clash with those ones...and for some
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
they've all been from Nigeria but only in the virtual world. When I got back from France, I met two Igbo guys, with whom I became friends. they became like brothers, we did everything together. I briefly dated an Ibibio girl....
So with a population of 160 million souls, naturally there are many good Nigerians out there, despite what I said. However, I seem to run into these hard-headed ones lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
If you go on my page, you will see that the majority of my subscribers, as well as the people who leave comments on my page are African, mainly from French-speaking African countries.
So it's not a problem of me not liking Africans, I don't like certain "PIG-HEADED" individuals
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain You stupid wannabee, who cares what French use, What you and the French use is irrelevant you are both foreigners. Egun, or Ogu is what Yorubas call the Goun. You act like French have some authority on the subject again showing your colonial, western, ignorant mentality. You may be impressed by the French but I am not and that goes for the British as well. Take your slave mentality else where.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
I already told you the history of the Goun, did you take any notes or am I to believe that someone as obtuse as you has a retentive memory lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010
You need to get a life dude. We barely got back from the buffet at Rio here in Las Vegas. I check my mail and see like 10 messages from you. So I come here hoping you brought some evidence to support your absurd claims and all I find is a gorilla foaming at the mouth lol
You are too emotional and sensitive, like a little trick. It must run in the family, those méhiho yovo genes are a curse lol
PrinceNoirAmericain 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain You are a little kid , empty barrels make the most noise. You talk like you are actually Goun what a wannabbee. Ha, by the way I thought slaves are not accepted as royalty in Goun tradition. YOU NEED TO GROW UP ACCEPT YOU ARE AMERICAN AND NOTHING ELSE. Goun people will always see you as an outsider, and for your information all our groups are related, yes we had war but we are related groups, you being a non African cannot see that, and would like to see us divided.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@PrinceNoirAmericain You in no way can speak for people of Republic of Benin, they are my brothers and our groups have mixed for centuries. Most Porto Novo have Yoruba blood, both groups fought wars and enslaved each other hence the animosity. Goun and Fon groups made up a lot of the Egba slaves and vice versa a lot of these w