Apologetics #2 - Prefigurements of Mary in the Old Testament

[3410James]

It is good to fight for the truth, but you have to know what our church teaches in regards to this passage. This woman in Revelation that Satan is waging war against is noty Mary, it is the Catholic Church and her offspring are the faithfull Catholics. There are also those outside the Church that are in communion with the church but this is an other ball game. I am not saying that Mary is not a co-mediatrix, she is. God Bless

[franciscanfriars]

@3410James The Lady is both symbolic of the Church **and** Mary. Which makes sense since Mary is a symbol of the Church.

[3410James]

@franciscanfriars This make a lot of sens, thank you for this clarification.

God Bless.

Pray for me and I for you.

[RobinMosley24]

@3410James Mary is representaive of the church is she not? Scripture can have several meanings, several stages of typology, and even ordinary human morals....Mary''s child was attacked by satan and was hid in eqypt...Herod murder of the infants....etc It also applied to the Holy Mother Church, for instance the propchies of Cyrus also have "secondary" or actually Primary for shadowings of Christ, Cyrus came did what he did and of course God came and redeemed the world

[TheHonestTheist]

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[WorshipVideo]

How can Mary be co-mediatrix if the Bible says there is one Mediator - Christ Jesus?

[jimzz12]

"Co-" does not mean equality to Jesus. "Co-" indicates a subordinate position. It is important to pursue education in language.

[eljunior98]

B/C she is our Mediator to Christ who is the sole Mediator to the Father in whom He is One with.

[damiantvz]

Jesus church could not fail period. It was certainly Catholic from its conception.

Jesus at the cross told john behold yourmother, WOMAN behold your mom.

The rosary is a synthesis of the gospel and scripture.She is no casual bystander in godds salvation of us. And at canna wedding he basically told his mom You know theres nothing betwenn you and me. And the ark of the covenant is a queens throne. Yes an empty queens throne.

[damiantvz]

the catholic church is the only one who can divinely interpret scripture through their hierachy. they have an intimate knowledge handed down since jesus and even before. a direct line. Other churches just make it up as they see fit. Their churches are really just in their treachers head , and as they see fit .

[auret]

the direct line is a myth made up by the catholic church. constantine built the church.

catholicism has given itself permission to add to the bible whatever they want and call it infallible doctrine.. ther is no real accountibility because for centuries they executed anyone who disagreed. that is not the way of christ by their own fruits they prove themselves false.

[bmadison]

the catholic church has never added to the bible. in fact, after the protestant reformation there were 7 books removed from the old testament by protestants.

[ixtoc999]

Auret, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church put together the New Testament, so, this is no myth. They were inspired by the Holy Spirit and yes, there were crimes because there was abuse of power, but the doctrine remains true.

[BurtWilson1]

Don't forget that God commanded prophets to put to death certain people. Is this a sin in your eyes?

[auret]

terribly flawed logic here...

you take legitimate biblical typology and use it as an excuse to see what you want to see in totally unrelated sections of the old testament...

there is no legitimate scriptural basis for those things being in any way related to mary.

[mlbprock]

In Revelation, it states that Satan was angered at the Woman and went to wage war with the rest of her offspring who keep God's commandments. In Genesis, God states He will put emnity between satan's offspring and the Woman's. In John, from the cross, Jesus says "Woman behold your son". Now, Mary has as her offspring all those whom her Son has saved.