Creating a Ruby on Rails Weblog in 99 Sec(Part1)

[WebDevFTW]

What people need to understand about Rails is the reason so many people love it is because it's ease of use, strong community, and speed. I think the main thing that separates Rails from Many large-enterprise frameworks (excluding KohanaPHP) is its strong community base. You think 37Signals and Heinemmer-Hannson write all of rails to this day? No. People are constantly making improvements everyday and new git commits are pushed daily. Rails is a community project. Thats why people love it. ;-)

[Apocalyptiq]

switch to linux and it's console! it's much more convenient than gui apps when you learn it

[shebotnov]

ruby ruby ruby aahahaaaa

[LAnonHubbard]

The number of rails users is falling now that they're finding that to write anything more complex than a blog they need to really fight with the framework.

Infact there's a name for the people who still use Rails: CLINGERS.

[DavidRobertRoy]

Rails is sill only version 2 with version 3 on the horizon. It was a framework extracted from a live and thriving web app and it is the potential of rails not what is has done to date that is exciting.

[LAnonHubbard]

@DavidRobertRoy.

But all of what Rails promises is already available and tested with a large user base now. Take a look at ww w.springframework.o rg. It was only a few months ago that Rails supported i18n, and from what I read, that was a compromise.

It seems that the Rails community is trying to reinvent an already perfect wheel. I don't really get it. The thing that pisses me off most is the RailsEnvy videos on here. They show the "I'm better than u" mentality of RoR (and often Mac) users.

[DavidRobertRoy]

If something "pissies" you off then your not looking at it from a logical perspective. I don't care what others think of there choice of computer, toaster, notepad, pen, ect.

Part of the negativity associated with rails was the scaffold with a lot of people failing to understand that you still need to write code.

As for scalability as i said before its a version 2 and has potential, as a developer i can fit rails, php, java, and objective c in where needed.

[shaheen0031]

@LAnonHubbard fuck u

[LAnonHubbard]

@shaheen0031 U a Ruby fanboi or something?

[WebDevFTW]

@LAnonHubbard I think RailsEnvy was just trying to be creative. But the main reason so many people are saying "Use Rails!" is because of its simplicity. On one hand because it's easy to build large-scale applications very efficiently as very quickly, but this is true with any well-built and well-rounded framework. And the other hand is because of the Ruby language. Ruby is syntactically clean, 100% object-oriented, and pretty easy to adopt and pick up quickly.

[LAnonHubbard]

@WebDevFTW I agree that Ruby as a language is clean and agree Rails is simple. It can be very difficult though once one strays from the framework AFAICR (been a while!). So difficult that it might've been better to use something more flexible/scalable to start with. The thing that got my back up about Rails is the hype and the putting down of other frameworks. It seemed to attract fanboys and that made me sick. DHH is an arrogant to**er too from what I've heard! Peace.

[benzourry87]

He's just showing how easy to interact with db in elegance MVC paradigm using RoR. So, blog is just a case study. It could be anything. But, wow, i'm amazed!

..anyway, i'll stick with my java.

[dpludwig]

meh

creating a blog is so totally been there done that.

so what if ruby on rails can do it in seconds? bragging about this is like bragging that you've just reinvented the wheel...

settle down you geeks

[scoobyDx]

@dpludwig

ror isn't a framework to create blogs. it's a framework for developing web aps through the Model view controller paradigm. the fact that it creates this model view controller system so elegantly is what's amazing. it's clean, simple, i think it's really elegant and well engineered

it can be applied to whatever you want, it's not restricted to a blog, it's flexible, powerful and really really sweet

[dpludwig]

@scoobyDx

whatever man

MVC is not unique to ruby on rails.. other web development frameworks make use of MVC

also, much of the elegance of the ror framework is a product of the language it is implemented in (ruby as opposed to say perl ugh)

ror use of convention over configuration is useful, but this concept did NOT originate from rails

and finally ror CANNOT just be applied in any problem domain - ruby is too slow for some high volume high demand environments

get a grip

[scoobyDx]

yeah, what you said is true.

what's your point? nobodies saying these concepts started with ror or that ror is the solution for every problem

here's my thing, your point about blogs being "been there done that" is stupid. it's a case study.

[staticfive]

Ah yes, too slow. That's why fucking Twitter uses it.

[dpludwig]

no, you dumbass.

twitter moved from rails to scala to handle the back end, because twitter found rails could not scale quickly enough to deal with the growing load.

get your facts right before you spout your bullshit u twit.

[staticfive]

Your daddy doesn't love you

[jepalano]

@dpludwig Hmm.. and yet Twitter are looking for Ruby programmers? Thats odd!

[staticfive]

Try doing that with PHP. For those of us that actually DO this shit, it's nice to save the hours of mind-numbing repetitive bullshit involved with repeatedly writing a framework for every site. Sooooo, shut up?

[myathnalli]

f*** netbeans, you can do same thing using command line even faster.

[exn666]

харе чвакать. бесит

[Demnior]

This is AWESOME!!! RoR is great...

[djslyfox]

i am having problems after installing netbeans can someone help?

[Demnior]

What kind of problems do u have?

[theguyinashirt]

It seems like 95% of ROR demos are about creating a blog application. For some reason everybody finds it so fascinating... Also everyone is supa excited about the scaffolding feature. I can't understand how useful it could be when normally templates are "a little more" complicated than just a simple HTML representation of describe [TABLE]. I am not saying ROR is a bad framework - but it just seems like ROR is going after beginners in it's ads...

[TiLeNpWneD]

TRUE LOL xD

But still ruby on rails is fantastic ( not only for creating blogs :D )

[y0gus]

nice tutorial

unfortunately, most projects i had were with legacy database... I don't feel like Rails is good choice for such cases.

I am still trying to find manual about "How to make new website with RoR but keep our existing Oracle DB" :)

[ValPaliy]

Dude, this is a great little tutorial, but... why do I get the feeling that the narrator is chewing on something while explaining? Yet, I've rarely heard myself narrate, so I could be even worst at it...

[vwvr9]

josevreyes , netbeans

[josevreyes]

What is the name of the your GUI application ? thaks !!

[barchil]

thank you very much