Wonder how many that make comments were alive during this time? Some comments sound so child like and naive, this wasn't about God it was about 1 man being able to control others, like many can and still do today, it happened before Jim Jones and it happens now! This is where the saying came from "don't drink the kool-aid"
Guys, what a lot of u and/or others who hadnt seen this doc., read & studied up on it is that even tho there was just ovr 900 or so people who chose 2 follow 1 aftr the other of their fellow *brother/sister* members in inducing the poison mix of what infamously bcame known as 'Electric Kool-Aid', there was also many who saw what was 2 come in just days ahead & be4 fleeing, tried 2 convince as many as possible in c'in the real truth of what their 'camp' leader either was along and/or had became.
@theinternettroll1000 You're not supposed to site the youtuber who uploaded it, because the youtuber who uploaded the video doesn't own this video. They didn't make it. They are only uploading it. Proper citation would be to google "Paradise Lost: Documentary Film" and try to find who the director is and the producers of the film. I'm a writing tutor so just giving you an f.y.i.
Ummm did they forget they can swallow without swallowing? then take a deep breath and hold your breath until they go away if neccisary exhale through your nose slowly, and take short quiet breaths
@hydrogeddonn cyanide might be potent enough to kill you from just being absorbed through your tongue and mouth region. I wouldn't want to try that plan.
@charlene12341234 I wish there were more guys like him :( so many uneducated negroes alive today causing crime wherever they go. Mugging, killing, raping everything in sight. It's despicable. I hate being black.
@LuniaVideo -honey, beleive me, I do understand your frustration! It's deffinately your perogative to feel this way! I wonder where did they go when they all died? You think God forgave them, or what do you think happened to those despicable individuals. I sort of agree with you!
What you have to remember is that this occurred in 1978...life/attitudes were vastly different then they are now. We learned from these tragedies. It has happened since, and will continue to happen..he was able to use peoples fears and beliefs to manipulate them. Classic..first appear as the one who will change your life, make them happy, give them everything..then slowly change...thats how brain washing works......
This was not so much about socialism or religion - those were just a means for Jones to gain power which his megalomaniacal personality required. Had he not used those two to lure in the followers. he'd have used means. I don't think his intent was the murders/suicides . . . Those occured only when he knew the jig was up his days as leader were over. He couldn't even face death alone - and began to believe his own rantings. And the innocent (some of them) believed him to the very end.
no thank you I don't believe in the Kuran whom some religious fanacits believe in human body shields and killing others I am a christian because Christ Jesus says I come to give you life and to give it to you abundantly
Omg, u know how sick i am of seeing arrogant shit like this, the guy from norway was a christian exteremist! same as those u mention! they are extremists! dont judge us all the same, i would never hurt a fly, and i love all people, i have athiest friends aswell, and please im relegious but even i know how u cling to jesus everytime something happens, Relegion is beautiful , but dont fucking use it every single time.
@LearnToReadTheKuran Yes, just completely forget about Al-Qaeda, Sinn Fein, and the PLO. Also, forget about Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, the Armenian Genocide, the Spanish Inquistion, Rwanda in 1994, Ran Min executing the Wu Hu in 325 B.C. and the recent Darfur conflict. Really? I call bullshit on that.
@LearnToReadTheKuran America is not the greatest terrorist threat in the world. Get a clue. It was 200,000 civilians or it was possibly millions more dead with an invasion of Japan on the ground. That's not counting American soldiers who would have died because the Japanese weren't going to give up. Concerning Iraq, that was a mistake, we should have never touched Iraq, but that was because we had a moron for a president. I voted Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
@LearnToReadTheKuran I call bullshit on your statement. It's a term that means...nonsense. We also built western Europe back from WWII, began the Berlin Airlift, built and then ceded control peacefully of the Panama Canal, and provide more aid and relief than any other nation on earth.
@LearnToReadTheKuran By the way, I was in Iraq in 2003 and most of those civilians that you speak of....were trying to kill us. That's not a civilian, that's a person taking arms against you. You kill them or they kill you. That simple. I didn't agree with going into Iraq and I believe we stepped into the shitstorm that is now Iraq. But those men who died in the Fallujah firefight didn't have a say. I saw things I'll never forget and I only want peace for mine and every nation. That's all.
@LearnToReadTheKuran I respect everyone's religion. They way one wishes to worship is of no concern. I'm not going to tell someone they are wrong because they do not believe the same as myself. As someone who has seen Islam firsthand, I respect Islam, but my place on this earth is not to be a holy man. Some may be, and that's fine, you have no problem here, but I worship the Most High my own way.
@averitas In a way, yes. There was a large element of socialism in the Jonestown sect. Such as the abandonment of all property (to be turned over to Jones), all money turned over to Jones. "Those who remained drugged with the opiate of religion had to be brought to enlightenment — socialism." is an actual quote from the people's temple. However, you cannot tell me that this was a mad tyrant using religion as a guise. Religion had a large part to do with it in that case.
@TheOringinalBRad I've heard that before, that it was some sort of social experiment and that there were actually several colonies throughout South America, which were basically slave labor camps, filled with "undesirables" (Minorities, felons, poor people), that the airstrip assassins were CIA trained "Manchurian Candidates" who were robotic and emotionless and that that particular colony's party came to a halt because of CM Ryan.
The parents didn't let their kids b poisened. Parents and kids were separated & th kids were killed 1st before the parents could stop it (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus removing their will to resist. About 200 were found to b injected in place they couldn't have reached themselves
The parents didn't let their kids b poisened. Parents and kids were separated & th kids were killed 1st before the parents could stop it (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus removing their will to resist. About 200 were found to b injected in place they couldn't have reached themselves. 200 injected + 300 kids = 500 deff murderd.
The parents didn't let their kids b poisened. Parents and kids were separated & th kids were killed 1st before the parents could stop it (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus removing their will to resist. About 200 were found to b injected in place they couldn't have reached themselves. 200 injected + 300 kids = 500 deff murderd + I don't know how many but quite a few were shot trying to escape & poss up to 200 ppl were missing & poss died in th jungle
They didn't poisen their own kids. Parents & kids were separated & the kids were killed 1st before the parents could do anything (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus taking away the parents will to survive. Injections were found in about 200 ppl in places they could not have reached themselves. Those 200 + the 300 kids = 500 deff murdered. Some were also shot + th 1st to drink thout it was prop another loyalty test & may not have believed it was real poisen
@steviedb7 haha dude fair point u made and all..butttttttttt...why did u basically type the same point 4 times an like change the last 2 lines?..kinda spam....but anyways ye this guy in this vid reminds me of a scientologist for sum weary reason...hmmm
@steviedb7 Actually some parents did inject their kids, the ones who didn't had their kids pried from their arms. The kids died first. There was no place to run, the pavillion was surrounded by guards with guns and crossbows. John Victor Stoen died 11/18/78, the same as everyone else but he was found and probably died in Jones' cottage. There were over 70+ with injection marks and only two people were shot.
Jim Jones was not a real Marxist or Christian. He was a charismatic con man - an ego maniac who craved worship & power. He appeared as a Marxist to some, Christian to others, humanitarian to others etc. He supported both Democratic & Republican parties + whoever/whatever gained him more power. A master @ manipulation & mind control.
hev was a mk ultra cia agent... in brazil he had safe house where known cia agents went to gibve him money instructions etc, but he fucked up with drug usage and got paranoid...
The sick thing is, Jim Jones was buying several grams of Cyanide once a month WAY before anyone went to Guyana...which means, he planned this WAYYYY before anyone went there...sick man..SICK man.
Okay. Is it just me, or does it appear that at the peak of their respective lunacies, Jim Jones, Elvis Presley and Mark David Chapman looked similar? What, with the dark hair and glasses and all? :-/
the shear number always shock me over 900 people lives lost just looking for a better way to live and sadly fell into the hands of a very bad person. May they now have the paradise they never found here.But my heart really feels for the poor children because they weren't brain washed they just had no choice.bless them
Arguing about things going on now is not a way to act on this channel. We all understand that they were brainwashed, that things weren't right. Fighting amongst each other is what started it. I am all for the Iraq war, love my country and the people who stand to defend it. I'm a christian. I can see the mirror through the smoke. Innocent children died because of this. Can we please try to at least show respect for them?
Some bigots want to bash Religious people because of this tragedy - why?
Millions died for the Atheistic Socialist Dream of the Soviet Union. Millions were sent to camps to be shot, tortured, and starved. All for a Secular Socialist Ideal.
Millions died for Mao's "Great Cultural Revolution" in his bid to build a Proletarian Socialist Utopia. Would it have been better to you all if Mao was a Baptist?
Human Nature is evil and depraved. It does not matter WHAT philosophy you have.
@NewWaveFan1 Isn't it crazy to die for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. The American people were all for it any criticism (i.e. France) was seen as treachery. Weren't the entire country following a nutjob? In addition, they reelected him. Weren't you the crazies? I could just as easily said Christian shits though I am one but I have the capacity of critical thinking and the ability to put myself in the other guys shoes and see my wrongs. I haven't drunk the koolaid you enjoy.
Another name comes to mind when I am reminded of this: His commune is in the mountains of Afghanistan. His victims? Frustrated Muslims that can get to heaven by blowing up Western Institutions and civilians. His name is.......Osama Bin Laden.
@greatbydesign33 Uh, no, this could NOT happen to me...I have been around cult like groups and religion (same thing basicly), so, sorry, I am such a big skeptic and nearly militant Atheist that shit like this could never happen to me and others like me. I woulda killed this fucker long before he got this far if I were in that comune...
LOL, I like how right at the end of this part he is standing there calmly, drinking his water from behind his shades, then all of a sudden he's yelling angrily yelling at his followers. Can you say split personality?
hehehe is easier to wait until the Jonestown Project gets Declassified archives will be release someday so dont worry. dont believe in any video or in any version Jim Jones is C.I.A all the way!!
Most visitors to San Francisco think of hippies and peace and love. However there is a mass grave in Oakland filled with 400 people; mostly children and mostly black who were murdered in the name of socialism and Marxism. They rest there unmourned and forgotten by the vibrant "progressive" community in the Bay Area including many leftist politicans and activists who contributed to the massace by ignoring the abuse in the name of political gain.
this guy just amazes me how he could do such terrible things to ppl and allow ppl who didn't want to die to die. and kill small children!! CHILDREN innocent ppl who don't know anything that's going on that day wow crazy
Good piece, the the info calls it the largest mass suicide in history. It was actually the SECOND largest, the largest being Masada in AD 72. 968 Radical Jews jumped off a cliff to avoid capture by the Roman army.
For your answer find the interview that Stephan Jones gave, in Guyana, directly after the tragedy, Shamrock.
In it he says that even though he had lost faith in his father he still had faith in the People's Temple's cause. I would imagine that many parishioners felt the same way.
you have to remember the context. There were LOTS of guys around leading small political movements. This guy was accepted by mainstream politicians because he could deliver votes and supply hundreds of enthusiastic poll workers. Compared to the Weathermen, Black Panthers and SLA, People's Temple seemed harmless. When reports of terrible abuses did surface Jones took off to Guyana and his politician supporters breath easier except Leo Ryan, who had too much integrity for that.
@1peterz ... Interesting though that Jones' two biggest politician supporters in San Francisco - George Moscone and Harvey Milk - were both shot and killed just two weeks after the Jonestown Massacre.
@kidballistic: Jim Jones was a Marxist creep, pure and simple. Of course the fashionable "progressive" Left loved it and courted him. Especially in San Francisco. And that is why he was able to get away with what he did for as long as he did. His murder of Congressman Ryan, and his suicide afterwards, was because the game was up and he was going to be indicted.
@kidballistic The thing is though, if anyone ever wanted to go home, he would beat them badly...and there was guards all the time, nobody could really leave..
@sahr94 Yeah, true true. Even the scilons, with their private navy, private slave-labour camps, forced abortions and physical assault of critics, even they haven't gone onto mass suicide.
he was a minister of God at the begining of his ministry and was very powerful and well known and for someone with a title like that he's mind control on the people would've been nearly unescapable. His tatics of brainwashing and why he kiled other & himself etc is what i find interesting about him.
@StacyatLife he helped Moscone win the mayoral election, not Milk.
I find him interesting because I know people who lost family members in this tragedy. I will never understand how people fall into the trap of cults... but it does indeed happen.
@SoulLips I think because people voluntarily give up thinking for themselves, it is easier to let someone else make decisions for your life and it makes you feel special "a chosen" person. Even when you believe in something you have to have the courage to examine it completely and challenge what you follow. 900 people were responsible for their own deaths, I call it suicide by the adults and murder of the children.
Nightshapes3 THAT was a good movie. Powers Booth did a very good job trying to capture the madness and obsession of Jim Jones. It had a decent production budget and tried to capture the truth behind the tragedy.
You will have a hard time finding it on DVD though. I do not think they released it on DVD yet.
You are right Jim Jones still does have the power to influence the popular culture. I remember seeing a very good "docudrama" about him in the early 80's called "Jim Jone: The Jonestown Tragedy". It started Powers Booth as Jim Jones and was pretty good.
You are right about him being a communist. He started out as a Evangelical Methodist Minister but that was only a cloak for his leftest leanings. He practiced collectivization amongst his church people. There was no rich or poor in his church.
Come on. That's a false dichotomy. It's like saying you can't be an evangelical preacher because you work libertarian ideas into your dogma (as very many do). Yeah, it ran amok. That's the whole reason it ended the way it did. Yeah, he was a communist and his movement was the "Peoples" Temple. How, exactly, does "evangelical" or "preacher" preclude strong political and economic leanings? Jim Jones was a Christian evangelical minister. The fact that you don't like him doesn't mean that he wasn't.
If you bother to do some research you will see that Jim Jones eventually came to repudiate the Bible. "The Life and Death of the People's Temple" documentary shows how he actually threw the Bible across the room during a sermon and dared God to strike him hown. He was by the end of his career a total leftest communist demagogue.
You cannot be a orthodox Evangelical Preacher and have the far left "strong political and economic leanings" that Jim Jones had.
I didn't know about his repudiation of the Bible and such, but I'd say that THAT is why he, in the end, wasn't an evangelical preacher. You're still ending with the same false dichotomy. Please explain why it is that you can't be a far leftist and an evangelical.
LOL. Did someone learn a new word in class today (dichotomy) : )
Wow...you pretentious pseudo intellectual You Tube types make me laugh. It is not up to the other guy to prove YOUR argument pinhead...it is for YOU to do the research and post your hypothesis.
By the way...I think your great intellect should realize that it is self evident that the Communist Manifesto and the New Testament are entirely opposite world views and not at all compatible with each other - at least not for orthodoxy.
The term "false dichotomy" is a well established logical fallacy-- apparently one with which you are unfamiliar.
I conceded the point about Jones in my last post, but I did repeat my demand for an explanation as to why you can't be a fundie evangelical and a far leftist. So far, I've gotten "just because". Please, explain.
Now I just have to get into this argument.. May I?
You are obviously ignorant of the whole Jim Jones saga. You do not deserve any explanation because you yourself are clueless about the subject you are trying to debate. Have you watched any of the documentaries they told you about? You keep skirting around that issue. Well?
Also using big grownup words to try and sound intelligent does not make your position any more secure. Often it is a sign of a lock of self esteem.
I conceded the point about Jones two posts ago. I'm no longer talking about him. If you people were more likely to read than pontificate, you'd have noticed that by now. I am not talking about Jones when I ask why one cannot be a leftist and an evangelical. That said, why can't one be a leftist and an evangelical?
You are done. You ignored just about everyone's question about your ignorance of the subject matter here. You dodge, dodge, dodge the questions put to you while demanding one for yourself. Sorry...that is not the way it works. You deserve nothing while still remaining ignorant of what you want to "pontificate" about.
That said, it is not for you to dictate what people what to debate on here on You Tube.
Who cares if YOU are no longer talking about Jim Jones...other people are.
Okay, what questions? I haven't dodged anything. I admitted that I was unaware of something, and I'm asking you a direct question which you are dodging. You know what's worse than ignorance? Self-importance. Why won't you answer the question. Why can't a leftist be a fundamentalist? If it's so easy to understand, just explain it. Why are you being so elusive about this?
I was going to respond to tsmelvin with something along the lines of what you said, but I think you put in in a more concise way than I would have.
When tsmelvin does his homework by watching the Jim Jones documentries that are offered on You Tube then maybe we can all debate on the theology of it all.
He did not even know of Jones Bible throwing incident??? Sad. tsmelvin is trying to debate with me from a position of ignorance. Do your homework tsmelvin - then we will talk.
that so nasty too how he hated homosexuals and said that he himself was not, yet he would have sex with men from the group ' supposly to join them more to the group. gross ha ha
the original documentary on this is way better. but it gets the same point across. this is fucking terrible. i just feel so bad. people out there killing themselves and wanting to die. when these people didn't have a choice. :(
You know whats funny about all of this? jim jones made his whole gathering one day in San Fransisco drink punch and then tested them by saying that it had poison and that in 45 minutes they all would die. He lied to them, but it was a loyalty test for them. So he practiced this sort of thing with his following before. He was also crazy since he was a kid, being obsessed with death and killing animals and giving them funerals. He just needed a reason to kill everyone off.
Although this is a hokey made for tv movie, I think it gave a pretty accurate description about what happened the last day. I also like the real life interview explanations in between the scenes. Overall, though, there is A LOT missing about what leads up to this day. Check out some of the other vids on youtube--like Witness to Jonestown, etc., if you find this interesting.
If you listen to the death tape, it's pretty obvious at one point that Jones had no intention of dying that day. He knew he was about to be exposed as a liar and killed off his people so he could say, "i told you not to come, now look what you've caused!" Senator Ryan had a bad habit of making waves with the CIA, and it was probably planned that he be dealt with in Jonestown. Jones had knowledge of the plot against Ryan however, and had to be silenced himself. Seems like a clear case to me.
These comments make me sick
I cant even articulate something intelligent to counter to all these ignorant fools
imsochill98 3 hours ago
Psychopath
kingkobra1978 1 day ago
socialism in the hands of a drugged up "cult of personality" madman. sure worked out well didnt it.
Erik0072 2 days ago
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neurophobicnperfect 1 week ago
DiPSET !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ryanluna13 2 weeks ago
Wonder how many that make comments were alive during this time? Some comments sound so child like and naive, this wasn't about God it was about 1 man being able to control others, like many can and still do today, it happened before Jim Jones and it happens now! This is where the saying came from "don't drink the kool-aid"
sctoiowa 4 weeks ago
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elvinhickma12k 1 month ago
Jim Jones can kiss my ass!!!!!!!
TheBadchick66 1 month ago
Guys, what a lot of u and/or others who hadnt seen this doc., read & studied up on it is that even tho there was just ovr 900 or so people who chose 2 follow 1 aftr the other of their fellow *brother/sister* members in inducing the poison mix of what infamously bcame known as 'Electric Kool-Aid', there was also many who saw what was 2 come in just days ahead & be4 fleeing, tried 2 convince as many as possible in c'in the real truth of what their 'camp' leader either was along and/or had became.
DT24K 1 month ago
Who the fuck is retarded enough to believe in any sort of shit because it makes you feel good?? Use your brain and get with reality.
Josh04731 1 month ago
This video is a favorite on Vientiane
russmassey615 1 month ago
I had to cite this in social studies, i dont know the users name so i used his channels name. HOPE I GET AN A
theinternettroll1000 2 months ago
@theinternettroll1000 You're not supposed to site the youtuber who uploaded it, because the youtuber who uploaded the video doesn't own this video. They didn't make it. They are only uploading it. Proper citation would be to google "Paradise Lost: Documentary Film" and try to find who the director is and the producers of the film. I'm a writing tutor so just giving you an f.y.i.
fruitikay 1 month ago
It was mass murder, NOT mass suicide!
CrystalR73 3 months ago 19
@CrystalR73 totaly agree if you dont wanna die and some nut sticks you with a needle while another nut is behind you with a gun is that suicide?
kuklinski38 1 month ago
Ummm did they forget they can swallow without swallowing? then take a deep breath and hold your breath until they go away if neccisary exhale through your nose slowly, and take short quiet breaths
hydrogeddonn 3 months ago
@hydrogeddonn cyanide might be potent enough to kill you from just being absorbed through your tongue and mouth region. I wouldn't want to try that plan.
Floodlezoot 3 months ago
Come join my church....it is named after me...oh come live in my town JONESTOWN *insert eerie music*
Mobee211 3 months ago
Jim Jones "death tape" transcript during Kool aid cocktail distribution/drinking website:
jonestown.sdsu.edu/AboutJonestown/Tapes/Tapes/DeathTape/Q042fbi.html
crazeeborg 3 months ago
May we never - ever forget.
SeanMBryans 3 months ago
RELIGION
shangrigreige 4 months ago
this is not paradise lost u dum mf!!!
ozzfann 4 months ago
Prohibited from kids so they can only watch How to Raise a Street Smart Child.
027220 4 months ago
I hate reenactments.....
GeorgesRushStPierre 4 months ago
How can people be S O GULLIBLE ??????
To sign over your life to an Elvis Presley wannabee ????
PAULLONDEN 4 months ago
It was NEVER a paradise.
vivaloriflamme 5 months ago
It was never paradise...
jerico641 5 months ago
...and hippy lovin' white people.
charlene12341234 5 months ago
I guess jim jones thought he was Elvis! and more. This sick demented cracker runnin' around killing uneducated negroes!
charlene12341234 5 months ago
@charlene12341234 I wish there were more guys like him :( so many uneducated negroes alive today causing crime wherever they go. Mugging, killing, raping everything in sight. It's despicable. I hate being black.
LuniaVideo 5 months ago
@LuniaVideo -honey, beleive me, I do understand your frustration! It's deffinately your perogative to feel this way! I wonder where did they go when they all died? You think God forgave them, or what do you think happened to those despicable individuals. I sort of agree with you!
charlene12341234 5 months ago
@LuniaVideo Since u hate being black then go hang yourself Nigger
dimpsey3 3 months ago
@dimpsey3 That don't even make sense. I'm not black.
LuniaVideo 3 months ago
wait, whats this? i am looking for paradise lost: the child murders at robin hood hills?
jayperuzi 5 months ago
@jayperuzi I was looking for that too. :) This is about Jonestown, the mass suicides of the 70's and Jim Jones. But, this is interesting as well. :)
kelaltieri 5 months ago
What you have to remember is that this occurred in 1978...life/attitudes were vastly different then they are now. We learned from these tragedies. It has happened since, and will continue to happen..he was able to use peoples fears and beliefs to manipulate them. Classic..first appear as the one who will change your life, make them happy, give them everything..then slowly change...thats how brain washing works......
iplayacc 5 months ago
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billybrachiosaurus 6 months ago
The actor playing Jim Jones looks like Bruce Campbell as Elvis in "Bubba Ho Tep." It's uncanny.
FredericaBimble 6 months ago
Jim Jones must have been a mentor for Warren Jeffs.
evanbaer1 6 months ago
A Satanic CIA operation, run by the CIA man Jim Jones, this was a mind control test and satanic slaying.
TheOringinalBRad 6 months ago
JIM JONES YOU LISPING HOMO GTFO IM TRYING TO FIND THE ONE WITH THOSE DICKS IN ARKANSAS
MentosMan727 6 months ago
This was not so much about socialism or religion - those were just a means for Jones to gain power which his megalomaniacal personality required. Had he not used those two to lure in the followers. he'd have used means. I don't think his intent was the murders/suicides . . . Those occured only when he knew the jig was up his days as leader were over. He couldn't even face death alone - and began to believe his own rantings. And the innocent (some of them) believed him to the very end.
SeanMBryans 6 months ago
no thank you I don't believe in the Kuran whom some religious fanacits believe in human body shields and killing others I am a christian because Christ Jesus says I come to give you life and to give it to you abundantly
saliferguson4u 6 months ago
@saliferguson4u
Omg, u know how sick i am of seeing arrogant shit like this, the guy from norway was a christian exteremist! same as those u mention! they are extremists! dont judge us all the same, i would never hurt a fly, and i love all people, i have athiest friends aswell, and please im relegious but even i know how u cling to jesus everytime something happens, Relegion is beautiful , but dont fucking use it every single time.
alipdf 5 months ago
he dressed like elvis but he was defo no fucking king murdering twat.
xxleannebabyxx 6 months ago
America the greatest terrorist regime in the history of the world.
LearnToReadTheKuran 7 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran Yes, just completely forget about Al-Qaeda, Sinn Fein, and the PLO. Also, forget about Stalinist Russia, Nazi Germany, the Armenian Genocide, the Spanish Inquistion, Rwanda in 1994, Ran Min executing the Wu Hu in 325 B.C. and the recent Darfur conflict. Really? I call bullshit on that.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
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LearnToReadTheKuran 6 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran America is not the greatest terrorist threat in the world. Get a clue. It was 200,000 civilians or it was possibly millions more dead with an invasion of Japan on the ground. That's not counting American soldiers who would have died because the Japanese weren't going to give up. Concerning Iraq, that was a mistake, we should have never touched Iraq, but that was because we had a moron for a president. I voted Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran I call bullshit on your statement. It's a term that means...nonsense. We also built western Europe back from WWII, began the Berlin Airlift, built and then ceded control peacefully of the Panama Canal, and provide more aid and relief than any other nation on earth.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran By the way, I was in Iraq in 2003 and most of those civilians that you speak of....were trying to kill us. That's not a civilian, that's a person taking arms against you. You kill them or they kill you. That simple. I didn't agree with going into Iraq and I believe we stepped into the shitstorm that is now Iraq. But those men who died in the Fallujah firefight didn't have a say. I saw things I'll never forget and I only want peace for mine and every nation. That's all.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
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LearnToReadTheKuran 6 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran No. Thank you. I'm not a man of religion. I'm merely a man.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
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LearnToReadTheKuran 6 months ago
@LearnToReadTheKuran I respect everyone's religion. They way one wishes to worship is of no concern. I'm not going to tell someone they are wrong because they do not believe the same as myself. As someone who has seen Islam firsthand, I respect Islam, but my place on this earth is not to be a holy man. Some may be, and that's fine, you have no problem here, but I worship the Most High my own way.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
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LearnToReadTheKuran 6 months ago
@Gigrantula58 It wasn't religion. He used it to move them to socialism.
averitas 6 months ago
@averitas In a way, yes. There was a large element of socialism in the Jonestown sect. Such as the abandonment of all property (to be turned over to Jones), all money turned over to Jones. "Those who remained drugged with the opiate of religion had to be brought to enlightenment — socialism." is an actual quote from the people's temple. However, you cannot tell me that this was a mad tyrant using religion as a guise. Religion had a large part to do with it in that case.
Gigrantula58 6 months ago
@averitas No he didn't. He used it to exploit them and play god. First it was religion, then socialism. Fact is, he was just crazy.
MentosMan727 6 months ago
@MentosMan727 Fact is he was CIA, and there is more to this than was reported by the media.
TheOringinalBRad 6 months ago
@TheOringinalBRad I've heard that before, that it was some sort of social experiment and that there were actually several colonies throughout South America, which were basically slave labor camps, filled with "undesirables" (Minorities, felons, poor people), that the airstrip assassins were CIA trained "Manchurian Candidates" who were robotic and emotionless and that that particular colony's party came to a halt because of CM Ryan.
MentosMan727 6 months ago
How many people thought this was Eden of the East? XD
Aicirt8 7 months ago
Since his father was a Klansman, I'm thinking that he wanted them killed to bring the US black population down a bit. That's my conspiracy.
Duvmasta 8 months ago
free the WM3 NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mistressmpt 8 months ago
It was NOT a mass suicide. It's not suicide if you are forced to drink poison with a gun pointed at your children and yourself!
Avillageidiot59 8 months ago
This is unbelievable, i still don't understand how this could happen.
beachcomber4evah 8 months ago
Thulsa Doom!
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plptous 10 months ago
jim jones was a poor black man whitey is evil welfare liberal!
sjdss 11 months ago
@sjdss
Get a job nigger.
Ln192 9 months ago
@Ln192 i see your 3rd grade education! is paying off!
sjdss 9 months ago
@sjdss
says the unemployed trash with the pink hair
Ln192 9 months ago
The parents didn't let their kids b poisened. Parents and kids were separated & th kids were killed 1st before the parents could stop it (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus removing their will to resist. About 200 were found to b injected in place they couldn't have reached themselves
steviedb7 1 year ago
The parents didn't let their kids b poisened. Parents and kids were separated & th kids were killed 1st before the parents could stop it (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus removing their will to resist. About 200 were found to b injected in place they couldn't have reached themselves. 200 injected + 300 kids = 500 deff murderd.
steviedb7 1 year ago
The parents didn't let their kids b poisened. Parents and kids were separated & th kids were killed 1st before the parents could stop it (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus removing their will to resist. About 200 were found to b injected in place they couldn't have reached themselves. 200 injected + 300 kids = 500 deff murderd + I don't know how many but quite a few were shot trying to escape & poss up to 200 ppl were missing & poss died in th jungle
steviedb7 1 year ago
They didn't poisen their own kids. Parents & kids were separated & the kids were killed 1st before the parents could do anything (some including John Stoen were killed before the White Night began) thus taking away the parents will to survive. Injections were found in about 200 ppl in places they could not have reached themselves. Those 200 + the 300 kids = 500 deff murdered. Some were also shot + th 1st to drink thout it was prop another loyalty test & may not have believed it was real poisen
steviedb7 1 year ago
@steviedb7 haha dude fair point u made and all..butttttttttt...why did u basically type the same point 4 times an like change the last 2 lines?..kinda spam....but anyways ye this guy in this vid reminds me of a scientologist for sum weary reason...hmmm
TheIRiShCaSaNoVa 10 months ago
@steviedb7 Actually some parents did inject their kids, the ones who didn't had their kids pried from their arms. The kids died first. There was no place to run, the pavillion was surrounded by guards with guns and crossbows. John Victor Stoen died 11/18/78, the same as everyone else but he was found and probably died in Jones' cottage. There were over 70+ with injection marks and only two people were shot.
TheRrentz 3 months ago
What parent could believe in something that led them to poisoning their child!? RIP victims of Jim Jones
kissescomefree 1 year ago
What parent could believe in something that led them to poisoning their child!? RIP
kissescomefree 1 year ago
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webzpace 1 year ago
Jim Jones was not a real Marxist or Christian. He was a charismatic con man - an ego maniac who craved worship & power. He appeared as a Marxist to some, Christian to others, humanitarian to others etc. He supported both Democratic & Republican parties + whoever/whatever gained him more power. A master @ manipulation & mind control.
steviedb7 1 year ago 30
@steviedb7 perfectly said.
Floodlezoot 3 months ago
@steviedb7 jones was a perfect embodiment of a christian. "A master @ manipulation & mind control." thats exactly what christ was
teleshaka 2 months ago
hev was a mk ultra cia agent... in brazil he had safe house where known cia agents went to gibve him money instructions etc, but he fucked up with drug usage and got paranoid...
badsign1980 1 year ago
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@badsign1980 Tin foil hat!
aznluvr7 1 year ago
If they ever make a movie about Jonestown I can totally see Robert Downey Jr playing Jim Jones
julesreverie 1 year ago
The sick thing is, Jim Jones was buying several grams of Cyanide once a month WAY before anyone went to Guyana...which means, he planned this WAYYYY before anyone went there...sick man..SICK man.
xmanclyx 1 year ago
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oluham 1 year ago
@oluham your a real fucking idiot, you should have drank the kool aid. dickface
redbic22 1 year ago
@oluham Prick
FOOFlGHTERS 1 year ago
@oluham Why not say something of substance? The comment is beneath you.
TheAmbassador11 1 month ago
Okay. Is it just me, or does it appear that at the peak of their respective lunacies, Jim Jones, Elvis Presley and Mark David Chapman looked similar? What, with the dark hair and glasses and all? :-/
slmacph 1 year ago
is this what u call victims of insecurity with oneself and the world along with herd mentality?
Tom3744 1 year ago
is this footage of the "white night" authentic or is it a dramatization?
MissKilman 1 year ago
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he was evil. he brainwashed all of them.
AliciaAnannd 1 year ago
he fits every description that describes the anti christ.
theicon4life 1 year ago 10
the shear number always shock me over 900 people lives lost just looking for a better way to live and sadly fell into the hands of a very bad person. May they now have the paradise they never found here.But my heart really feels for the poor children because they weren't brain washed they just had no choice.bless them
moonwitch1981 1 year ago
Arguing about things going on now is not a way to act on this channel. We all understand that they were brainwashed, that things weren't right. Fighting amongst each other is what started it. I am all for the Iraq war, love my country and the people who stand to defend it. I'm a christian. I can see the mirror through the smoke. Innocent children died because of this. Can we please try to at least show respect for them?
brtkacz 1 year ago
the men should have charged him and his bodygaurds when they were vulnerable at least over 60 people would have been saved.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
Some bigots want to bash Religious people because of this tragedy - why?
Millions died for the Atheistic Socialist Dream of the Soviet Union. Millions were sent to camps to be shot, tortured, and starved. All for a Secular Socialist Ideal.
Millions died for Mao's "Great Cultural Revolution" in his bid to build a Proletarian Socialist Utopia. Would it have been better to you all if Mao was a Baptist?
Human Nature is evil and depraved. It does not matter WHAT philosophy you have.
NolanRogers2 1 year ago
What a bunch of brainwashed fucks.
NewWaveFan1 1 year ago
@NewWaveFan1 Way to respect the dead. Can speak that way about dead soldiers of the Iraq war? Don't worry I wouldn't want to, I have standards.
xldjvista 1 year ago
@xldjvista well soldiers defend our country from muslim shits. They dont drink the koolaid and follow a nutjob like these crazies did.
NewWaveFan1 1 year ago
@NewWaveFan1 Isn't it crazy to die for weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. The American people were all for it any criticism (i.e. France) was seen as treachery. Weren't the entire country following a nutjob? In addition, they reelected him. Weren't you the crazies? I could just as easily said Christian shits though I am one but I have the capacity of critical thinking and the ability to put myself in the other guys shoes and see my wrongs. I haven't drunk the koolaid you enjoy.
xldjvista 1 year ago
paradise? rolf more like a WWII style extermination camp, damn all of u ppl that fell in Jones'' ideaology shame on u all.
RichKilla86ers 1 year ago
damn........ this is messed up.....
Zero8764 1 year ago
Another name comes to mind when I am reminded of this: His commune is in the mountains of Afghanistan. His victims? Frustrated Muslims that can get to heaven by blowing up Western Institutions and civilians. His name is.......Osama Bin Laden.
peace/Salam
translationwiz 1 year ago
@greatbydesign33 Uh, no, this could NOT happen to me...I have been around cult like groups and religion (same thing basicly), so, sorry, I am such a big skeptic and nearly militant Atheist that shit like this could never happen to me and others like me. I woulda killed this fucker long before he got this far if I were in that comune...
kidballistic 1 year ago
I think they should have been more meticulous in casting an actor to play Jim Jones who was close to the same age as the person himself.
MarieCaseyStevens 1 year ago
Did you guys know that "Jonestown" is now Guyana's capital city. Why would they freakin do that?
subzeroxxxhotmail 1 year ago
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The capital is actually Georgestown.
themadhair 1 year ago
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Are you sure Jonestown is the capital? For what I know it is Georgetown.
trilby80 1 year ago
LOL, I like how right at the end of this part he is standing there calmly, drinking his water from behind his shades, then all of a sudden he's yelling angrily yelling at his followers. Can you say split personality?
CannibalZombieBitch 1 year ago 3
hehehe is easier to wait until the Jonestown Project gets Declassified archives will be release someday so dont worry. dont believe in any video or in any version Jim Jones is C.I.A all the way!!
BrujayBoleta 1 year ago
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Most visitors to San Francisco think of hippies and peace and love. However there is a mass grave in Oakland filled with 400 people; mostly children and mostly black who were murdered in the name of socialism and Marxism. They rest there unmourned and forgotten by the vibrant "progressive" community in the Bay Area including many leftist politicans and activists who contributed to the massace by ignoring the abuse in the name of political gain.
RobGoth100 1 year ago
This was also a mass murder-the suicide angle is not entirely accurate.
RPenta 2 years ago
@RPenta Let's just call is a mass euthanasia then. A mass assisted-suicide.
femoman 1 year ago
this guy just amazes me how he could do such terrible things to ppl and allow ppl who didn't want to die to die. and kill small children!! CHILDREN innocent ppl who don't know anything that's going on that day wow crazy
peacelovehonor22 2 years ago
Good piece, the the info calls it the largest mass suicide in history. It was actually the SECOND largest, the largest being Masada in AD 72. 968 Radical Jews jumped off a cliff to avoid capture by the Roman army.
pistolwaver 2 years ago
Really? WOw I never knew that.
lostpinup 2 years ago
@pistolwaver I think they call it, "the largest mass suicide in modern history."
FreeHugsForDrummers 1 year ago
3:00-3:25 the dark glasses do nothing to mask the addict.
Jim Jones was too high to make any reasonable decision toward the end.
thegirl44 2 years ago
How come all those people followed him and believed him when his own son calls him a fraud? I´ll never undestand...
Shamrock2509 2 years ago
For your answer find the interview that Stephan Jones gave, in Guyana, directly after the tragedy, Shamrock.
In it he says that even though he had lost faith in his father he still had faith in the People's Temple's cause. I would imagine that many parishioners felt the same way.
thegirl44 2 years ago
you have to remember the context. There were LOTS of guys around leading small political movements. This guy was accepted by mainstream politicians because he could deliver votes and supply hundreds of enthusiastic poll workers. Compared to the Weathermen, Black Panthers and SLA, People's Temple seemed harmless. When reports of terrible abuses did surface Jones took off to Guyana and his politician supporters breath easier except Leo Ryan, who had too much integrity for that.
1peterz 2 years ago
@1peterz ... Interesting though that Jones' two biggest politician supporters in San Francisco - George Moscone and Harvey Milk - were both shot and killed just two weeks after the Jonestown Massacre.
karnubawax 1 year ago
@karnubawax: karma, perhaps?
NickB1967 1 year ago
"I want you to be what I am"
*shudder* Those poor, poor people :(
DuchessAliana 2 years ago
Paradise Lost: Starring Mel Kiper Jr. as the Reverend Jim Jones...............
LightningJanitorial 2 years ago
To bad nobody took him out early. You cannot convince me that everyone was stupid and unaware of what this guy was really about.
kidballistic 2 years ago 27
@kidballistic It's not about people being "stupid" or "unaware" - This is a lesson in MIND CONTROL. Take notes or it could happen to you.
greatbydesign33 1 year ago
@kidballistic: Jim Jones was a Marxist creep, pure and simple. Of course the fashionable "progressive" Left loved it and courted him. Especially in San Francisco. And that is why he was able to get away with what he did for as long as he did. His murder of Congressman Ryan, and his suicide afterwards, was because the game was up and he was going to be indicted.
NickB1967 1 year ago
@kidballistic Exactly.
xmanclyx 1 year ago
@kidballistic The thing is though, if anyone ever wanted to go home, he would beat them badly...and there was guards all the time, nobody could really leave..
xmanclyx 1 year ago
hope this ish don't happen with that bs sciencetology
sahr94 2 years ago 27
@sahr94 Yeah, true true. Even the scilons, with their private navy, private slave-labour camps, forced abortions and physical assault of critics, even they haven't gone onto mass suicide.
femoman 1 year ago
@sahr94
omg he had socialist ideas
this almost has nothing to do with sciencetology -.-
NGOCPY 1 year ago
@NGOCPY lol yeah they are capitalist way better.
xldjvista 1 year ago
@sahr94 i think that's wishful thinking they worship money
lousaffire 7 months ago
Jim Jones was a psycho. Why do you guys find him so interesting?
He was no true minister of God. He was a leftist democrat who helped Harvey Milk in the SF elections.
He loved Marx more than Christ.
StacyatLife 2 years ago
he was a minister of God at the begining of his ministry and was very powerful and well known and for someone with a title like that he's mind control on the people would've been nearly unescapable. His tatics of brainwashing and why he kiled other & himself etc is what i find interesting about him.
sahr94 2 years ago
@StacyatLife he helped Moscone win the mayoral election, not Milk.
I find him interesting because I know people who lost family members in this tragedy. I will never understand how people fall into the trap of cults... but it does indeed happen.
SoulLips 2 years ago
@SoulLips I think because people voluntarily give up thinking for themselves, it is easier to let someone else make decisions for your life and it makes you feel special "a chosen" person. Even when you believe in something you have to have the courage to examine it completely and challenge what you follow. 900 people were responsible for their own deaths, I call it suicide by the adults and murder of the children.
321womble 2 years ago
Nightshapes3 THAT was a good movie. Powers Booth did a very good job trying to capture the madness and obsession of Jim Jones. It had a decent production budget and tried to capture the truth behind the tragedy.
You will have a hard time finding it on DVD though. I do not think they released it on DVD yet.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
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you can get it on DVD now
HanniYaudouh 2 years ago
You are right Jim Jones still does have the power to influence the popular culture. I remember seeing a very good "docudrama" about him in the early 80's called "Jim Jone: The Jonestown Tragedy". It started Powers Booth as Jim Jones and was pretty good.
You are right about him being a communist. He started out as a Evangelical Methodist Minister but that was only a cloak for his leftest leanings. He practiced collectivization amongst his church people. There was no rich or poor in his church.
NightoftheShape3 2 years ago 2
This is crazy. I only made an honest comment on this video and now 12 people are in on it.
Crazy.
Jim Jones still has the power to influence people.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Jim Jones was NOT an evangelical preacher. He was a Communist.....The "Peoples" Temple? Hello!
If you listen to the Death Tape here on You Tube you will see that his followers keep wanting to call Russia for help.
These people started out as a religious group but ended up as a communist commune in the S American jungle.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Not a very conservative one... but he obviously considered himself one of a sort.
rbpolsen 2 years ago 2
Come on. That's a false dichotomy. It's like saying you can't be an evangelical preacher because you work libertarian ideas into your dogma (as very many do). Yeah, it ran amok. That's the whole reason it ended the way it did. Yeah, he was a communist and his movement was the "Peoples" Temple. How, exactly, does "evangelical" or "preacher" preclude strong political and economic leanings? Jim Jones was a Christian evangelical minister. The fact that you don't like him doesn't mean that he wasn't.
tsmelvin 2 years ago
If you bother to do some research you will see that Jim Jones eventually came to repudiate the Bible. "The Life and Death of the People's Temple" documentary shows how he actually threw the Bible across the room during a sermon and dared God to strike him hown. He was by the end of his career a total leftest communist demagogue.
You cannot be a orthodox Evangelical Preacher and have the far left "strong political and economic leanings" that Jim Jones had.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
I didn't know about his repudiation of the Bible and such, but I'd say that THAT is why he, in the end, wasn't an evangelical preacher. You're still ending with the same false dichotomy. Please explain why it is that you can't be a far leftist and an evangelical.
tsmelvin 2 years ago
LOL. Did someone learn a new word in class today (dichotomy) : )
Wow...you pretentious pseudo intellectual You Tube types make me laugh. It is not up to the other guy to prove YOUR argument pinhead...it is for YOU to do the research and post your hypothesis.
By the way...I think your great intellect should realize that it is self evident that the Communist Manifesto and the New Testament are entirely opposite world views and not at all compatible with each other - at least not for orthodoxy.
NightoftheShape3 2 years ago
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The term "false dichotomy" is a well established logical fallacy-- apparently one with which you are unfamiliar.
I conceded the point about Jones in my last post, but I did repeat my demand for an explanation as to why you can't be a fundie evangelical and a far leftist. So far, I've gotten "just because". Please, explain.
tsmelvin 2 years ago
Now I just have to get into this argument.. May I?
You are obviously ignorant of the whole Jim Jones saga. You do not deserve any explanation because you yourself are clueless about the subject you are trying to debate. Have you watched any of the documentaries they told you about? You keep skirting around that issue. Well?
Also using big grownup words to try and sound intelligent does not make your position any more secure. Often it is a sign of a lock of self esteem.
Do your homework
HanniYaudouh 2 years ago
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I conceded the point about Jones two posts ago. I'm no longer talking about him. If you people were more likely to read than pontificate, you'd have noticed that by now. I am not talking about Jones when I ask why one cannot be a leftist and an evangelical. That said, why can't one be a leftist and an evangelical?
tsmelvin 2 years ago
You are done. You ignored just about everyone's question about your ignorance of the subject matter here. You dodge, dodge, dodge the questions put to you while demanding one for yourself. Sorry...that is not the way it works. You deserve nothing while still remaining ignorant of what you want to "pontificate" about.
That said, it is not for you to dictate what people what to debate on here on You Tube.
Who cares if YOU are no longer talking about Jim Jones...other people are.
Go away then.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
I already answered the idiots question.
I think this person tsmelvin is just a spineless troll who is sitting in his/her Mom's basement and acting like a retard on You Tube. What a looser.
You are right he/she is done. We shall waste no more time with a clueless idiot.
I WANT to talk about Jim Jones. He is still relevant today.
NightoftheShape3 2 years ago
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Okay, what questions? I haven't dodged anything. I admitted that I was unaware of something, and I'm asking you a direct question which you are dodging. You know what's worse than ignorance? Self-importance. Why won't you answer the question. Why can't a leftist be a fundamentalist? If it's so easy to understand, just explain it. Why are you being so elusive about this?
tsmelvin 2 years ago
nightshapes
I was going to respond to tsmelvin with something along the lines of what you said, but I think you put in in a more concise way than I would have.
When tsmelvin does his homework by watching the Jim Jones documentries that are offered on You Tube then maybe we can all debate on the theology of it all.
He did not even know of Jones Bible throwing incident??? Sad. tsmelvin is trying to debate with me from a position of ignorance. Do your homework tsmelvin - then we will talk.
ThoughtTraveler 2 years ago
Total Government CIA mind control experiment!
sylvianfripp 2 years ago
MK-Ultra?
rbpolsen 2 years ago
that so nasty too how he hated homosexuals and said that he himself was not, yet he would have sex with men from the group ' supposly to join them more to the group. gross ha ha
Cristianandtupac 2 years ago
the original documentary on this is way better. but it gets the same point across. this is fucking terrible. i just feel so bad. people out there killing themselves and wanting to die. when these people didn't have a choice. :(
fuji463 2 years ago 2
You know whats funny about all of this? jim jones made his whole gathering one day in San Fransisco drink punch and then tested them by saying that it had poison and that in 45 minutes they all would die. He lied to them, but it was a loyalty test for them. So he practiced this sort of thing with his following before. He was also crazy since he was a kid, being obsessed with death and killing animals and giving them funerals. He just needed a reason to kill everyone off.
Freethinker9110 2 years ago 2
Although this is a hokey made for tv movie, I think it gave a pretty accurate description about what happened the last day. I also like the real life interview explanations in between the scenes. Overall, though, there is A LOT missing about what leads up to this day. Check out some of the other vids on youtube--like Witness to Jonestown, etc., if you find this interesting.
cuddleyduddley 2 years ago
If you listen to the death tape, it's pretty obvious at one point that Jones had no intention of dying that day. He knew he was about to be exposed as a liar and killed off his people so he could say, "i told you not to come, now look what you've caused!" Senator Ryan had a bad habit of making waves with the CIA, and it was probably planned that he be dealt with in Jonestown. Jones had knowledge of the plot against Ryan however, and had to be silenced himself. Seems like a clear case to me.
PJR1005 2 years ago