WWF Attitude Finishers

[bigkuntry112]

590-0 in this game to this day

[SullivanandFriends]

Jackie's headbutt is nowhere near hitting Sable lol

[ScannerBoyn4c]

I remember having a match with a friend when that game came out.

Kane vs Undertaker - fucking match took like 30 minutes and included several Tombstones.

good times!

[drudogg84]

@fszron just crazy I don't think I ever used him

[JSJamesStorm]

Actually Paul Bearer's special move is called Big Splash.

[pingu53]

save the whales, collect the whole set!

[jrty1000]

I NO,HES A FAT ASS

[ajleo83]

Awesome game, never enjoyed any wrrstling game more!!

[manufran02]

I MISS MY PS AND THIS GAME

[BritishRider]

I used to fucking hate Mosh for some reason as a kid.... No idea why.

[JibJ4b]

0:44 My favorite Finisher

[Vladi306]

haha, I loved this old game. XD

[BoyzNAcne]

this game has a better chokeslam than wwe12

[drudogg84]

Was kurrgan on the game? I must of never used him

[fszron]

@drudogg84 Yeah, he was. He was the guy in hippie clothes

[250ahmed]

Did Paul Berrerr Do A Fucking 450 or 550 or 650 Or Whateva It Is Splash? DAMMMMAMMAMA

[TerrisJ3]

mann i used to whoop ass in this game!

[MemoPittBull]

REMINDS ME OF MY CHILD HOOD :( LOL BACK WHEN WRESTLING WAS GREAT...NOT THE SHIT THAT IS ON NOW

[Aron316]

only in video games can paul bearer do a 450 splash

[TheAmbitiousFish]

Anybody remember the 50 buttons you had to push in half a second in order to execute a finisher?

[Macikro]

@TheAmbitiousFish ya, finishers actually required skill to pull off.

I made a custom wrestler with the d'lo leg drop, it was so fun to pull off, since it was easier.

[centurionMAC]

These graphics were really good...then I took an arrow to the knee.

[TheWizard00123]

WWF attitude was the only game I could remember Lawler sitting there dissing himself......

[LazyNightz]

This game was hard to play imo but i got better at it.. good times playing that game !

[damiandadmn]

i love owen locking the sharpshooter on HBK

[DeathEgg666]

hahaha paul bearer doin a flip off the top rope......better than any new game ive seen lately!!

[sportyculvercity]

man this is cool and all but watchn this is maken me appriciate ps3 xbox 360 a little more haha

[dylanxfriends]

This was my fav wrestling game when i was a kid, i always used stone cold xD

[thesituation187]

shittttttttttttttttttttttttttt­ttttssssssss on wwe12!

[mikejassi92]

best wrestling games ever

[TheDaltonolivia]

this was my first ever wresleing game



[maxpower789z]

It's a little known fact that Paul Bearer could ACTUALLY pull off the 450 splash!

[HipnosisV1SvR]

YOU...CAN GO TO HELL!!! **sweet chin music!!**

[shinlilong]

@HipnosisV1SvR and thus he sweet chined him to said place!!!!!! :)

[lijash]

this when i actually gave a damn about wwf but now idc

[catherinef87]

People's Elbow YES

[Addaassasin]

Why were those people agruing anyway why havent anybody comment about paul bearer doing a fucking 450 splash lmao

[jonnybaddazz]

@Addaassasin If Percy Pringle (aka Paul bearer) did a 450 splash off the top rope he would kill himself and the person under him

[madridboy86]

After the stunner

Shane: it's pandemonium going wild

Jerry Lawer: they should be chatting idiot, idiot

XD

[oneUNITED7SS]

Anyone ever gotten a loss 'By decree of Vince McMahon'? Ooh that frustrated me.

[juaniggable]

debut the

[gigadeathlord]

To think I used to play this game everytime I came home from school

[dantheman9856]

damn, compared to the aki games of the time, this was the competitor? This game was just shit. lol

[random69420]

turn down the music volume but great upload.

[ATIHD57XX]

press 4 to have sex!

6 to see goldust get fucked

9 to see hbk give a blowjob!

[ATIHD57XX]

press 1 to see the blue guy masturbate the purple one!!

[robotfreshpies]

I loved this game so much, I just couldn't stand the controls. I didn't have the patience for all the combos and stuff, if only it had Smackdowns controls, it would probably have been the best. Actually scratch that, No Mercy ftw ;)

[DominationWarrior]

Paul Bearer doing a 450 splash is way better than seeing Justin Gabriel doing it xd

[TopDog69]

Hahaha the unprettier.

[nkataria56]

is this a nice pc game?

[StaticMajor502]

IN COMING!!!!!!

[Khan007440]

paul bearer 450 frog splash...WTF!!!

[prodjtkiller]

LOL Paul bearer 450 !!!!!!!!!!!!

[DarkSaber22]

YOU CAN GO TO HELL!

.....BOOM

those were the days

[TheDeathmerk]

this game WAS da best



[mrmus86]

Ah, bring great memories... :)

[MiseryMoon]

Also if I remember correctly Head (The head that Al Snow would carry around as part of his gimmick) was in the game as a unlockable character. Head had a head, hands and boots with the rest of the charater being invisible.

[MiseryMoon]

If I recall correctly in WWF Warzone finishers were the correct way round for the Headbangers. But in WWF Attitude, Mosh's had Thrasher's Stage Dive (Diving Somersault Leg Drop) finisher (3:22) and Thrasher's had Mosh's Mosh Pit (Diving Senton) finisher (3:30).

In both Warzone and Attitude you could have as many CAWs as your memory card would allow and you could use up to 4 memory cards with the game.

[TAhowardrocks]

@MiseryMoon I have recently played through both Attitude and Warzone and Mosh and Thrasher had the right finishers for both games.

[MrJayX1]

Never thought I'd see the day when Paul Bearer does a 450 splash

[lostmyshoes80]

This brought back so many memories. I fucking loved this game. Cheers for that.

[AceHarding]

Since when did Christian ever do the move like that?

[SeahawksFanUK]

@AceHarding Since the PSX couldn't convincingly animate it ;)

[Chase33]

Countless hours spent on my Playstation because of this game. Here's to the memories.

[bukie713]

@Chase33 agreed

[devildvc]

lol listen shane mcmahon commentary John Cena is already in 1:22

[stephencabrera1]

@RevolvingDoor22 You're totally right! The Attitude Era to me DEFINED WWE, or WWF at the time it took place. They need to bring it back. Do you not agree?

[XXXBLACKOPSXX]

i did all of them!!!!!no joke all on epsxe

[Sharpshooter828]

LOL at :14 "The Godfather is pissed off!" and then Shawn Michaels ironically "You can go to hell!" at 6:04 and then speaking of ironic Droz is facing D Lo Brown

[TheKraig]

@Sharpshooter828 That creeped me out as well. It was D'Lo (with a running powerbomb) that basically finished Droz' career.

[rswaryah]

This Video looks like Fatalities of WWF superstars.

[XTWIntensity]

Only Taker could withstand 3 Stone Cold Stunners

[TheShakiebreaks]

haha lawler commentating while piledriving slaughter

[roygib09]

what if they made another wwf attiitude game with updated graphics and the smackdown vs raw engine? dammit see now im mad cause that probably wont ever happen ---___---

[r3c2n9]

como haces los finishers

[r3c2n9]

como haces los finishers

[TheSWFuniverse]

I remember being AMP'D up for this game for weeks in the summer of 1999.. dying for it's release.. and when I played it.. I completely hated it.. though create a ring and arena was an awesome feature I wish they'd bring back

[lisgod3]

the commentary in this game is hilarious. and so are the voice clips.

[swsanders]

I have to say you did a good job, especially with this game. Those finishers were hard to do, so it must have taken a while to do it.

[kiaba360]

I love how Lawler's son is goin to the top rope and he says, "Where's that idiot going Shane?" lmao

[ElBribri]

I remember having a GREAT TIME playing this game and hitting wrestlers with huge tvs jaja it was awesome

[devilselbow]

lmao @ 2:25

[alphabravocam]

lol, 5:46 "Shush little boy, Shush"

[Yppiti]

This has better anim techs than Smackdown vs Raw 2011.

[bartov]

This game was ass.  Damn I wish I had an N64 so I could of got my No Mercy On.

[Decimate92]

THQ needs to make a new game based on the Attitude Era.

[RevolvingDoor22]

It is called 'Marvelousity' and NOT the 'F5'.

It is called the 'Diamond Cutter' and NOT the 'RKO'

It is called the 'Death Valley Driver' and NNNOOOTTT the 'FU' or "Attitude Adjustment'

Please, do your part in educating today's younger wrestling fans, as they are stupid and clueless. Thank you.

[jimi1is3king]

@RevolvingDoor22 firstly, wtf is marvousity? second, diamond cutter is a different move, they are both variations of cutters but randy jumps, ddp dropped. and again, death valley driver is a completely different move to the FU. DVD Is a sit out driver, FU is a slam. educate your self you mug.

[pcmarriotthk]

@RevolvingDoor22 No, the finishing move that Marc Mero used was the 'TKO'. The 'marvelocity' was the name of his shooting star press (a.k.a. 'the wild thing' when he was 'Wildman' Marc Mero).

[Cavauro]

Education: Marc Mero's finisher is not the same move as Brock Lesnar's.

[MrFallior]

@RevolvingDoor22 Actually the Death Valley Driver is when the person executing the move falls down on his side along with throwing his opponent. The Attitude Adjustment is just a standard fireman's carry, just on your feet instead of on your knees.

[chrisjericho541]

@MrFallior yh the fu is like a bodyslam but with added tourque

[DragONheart27X]

@RevolvingDoor22 and Ace Crusher > Diamond Cutter

[cosmostupid123]

@RevolvingDoor22 Who are the dumbfucks that gave this comment thumbs up? Nothing against the guy that posted that or something, but it's everything wrong! Marvelousity doesn't even exists, Diamond Cutter is a different move, and Death Valley Driver too.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@cosmostupid123 The only thing I got wrong was marvelocity because I got confused and meant to type the TKO. But it is what it is.

[Blocparty01]

@RevolvingDoor22 You need to be educated as the Diamond Cutter and the RKO are different moves and so is the Death Valley Driver and FU/Attitude Adjustment

[RevolvingDoor22]

@Blocparty01 No they aren't. You are just one more idiot who believes otherwise. Go buy a John Cena T-shirt and shut up.

[Blocparty01]

@RevolvingDoor22 Ha typical, an angry wrestling fan on youtube's best insult is a way of saying I like John Cena because I disagree with him.

I'm not a John Cena fan, I don't need to be to disagree with you. The moves are different, just search for each move on youtube and you will see the clear differences.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@Blocparty01 Ha, typical angry wrestling fan to have to point out that moves look slightly different than those compared with. Typical reverse psychology attempted by an inferior intellect. I am sorry I don't have the immense amounts of time that you have to sit home and compare and contrast wrestling moves. Some people lives are just to important to do so.

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 not sure how the hell you confused the marvelousity with the F5 or a DV Driver with a FU.Maybe you're the one that needs to be educated........

[RevolvingDoor22]

@willieg54 Yeah well guess what idiot, I have the top rated comment and you don't. Even though that one detail is slightly wrong, the comment as a whole rings true. So, go back to your 'Best of John Cena" DVDs and shut up.

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 wait so some idoits who clearly dont know their moves like you dont agree with your comment and that somehow makes you better than me? lmao really?Dont be mad at me that 2/3 of your post (which you copy that format cause ive seen it that kinda post everywhere) is wrong and then you have to add the whole "educating today's younger wrestling fans" at the end making you more like a fool. I mean what kinda fan confused the 'Marvelousity (the SSP mero did) with the F5? lol

[RevolvingDoor22]

@willieg54 Show me where you have seen this exact post. I am challenging yo right now; show me. If I had one wrong, WHO CARES? A true wrestling fan knows what I mean, which you are not because you only know about Cryme Tyme and Cena. I can tell that is your type. So, show me where you found my post and then you can go and act like Jeff Hardy at your high school, jumping off of bleachers.

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 A true wrestling fan would know what you mean when you confused a Shooting star press with the F5?Really?Some fan you are.Most likely you just some 15 year old(most likely a former cena fan til he got hated on,when that happen you hopped on the next bandwagon) acting like you where around back then but you just a fake who try to discredit others cause they called you out on your stupidity.SSP = F5? Really?lol wrestling is shamed to have a fan like you.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@willieg54 Seriously, is all you have is to put a minor error in my face? You got nothing else? lol, moron. I am from the time where I watched Heenan and Monsoon on USA network on Prime time and I was at WM 3. So don't go there. Where is that video that had my comment on it? I challenged you to post it and you didn't because you talk out of your ass. So what will the next comment be about? LOL, "duuuhhh you got da marvelosness mixed up with ff5, duuuhhh....funnny". Get something new, idiot. LOL.

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 you can literally find those kinda comments in ever single type of old school music video on youtube and btw that comment was poster 3 months ago while yours was posted in 2.

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 You say Justin Bieber,I say PARAMORE!!! You say Lady Gaga,I say Evanescence You say Miley Cyrus,I say Slipknot You say T-Pain,I say Three Days Grace You say Eminem,I say Linkin Park You say Jonas Brother,Isay Green Day........i can find these for days.You arent creative, you are just some hack who try to do what all the little kids on here do.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@willieg54ate to break it to you but not only did you list everything gay in this world in an analogous tirade, but you also showed that you really have no clue. I am FAR more intelligent than you will ever be. Look how I just manipulated your comment. I called you out on how you would focus on the same thing you have been focusing on, and now you make no mention of it. So, it is safe to say that I just controlled you. Now, go back to online shopping for nexus shirts for you and your friends.

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 dont get it. you said your post is original and you wanted me to give you proof it isnt original. Not only i give you an example i gave you 2 examples(that i didnt even do i just copied from other vids) and you gotta say is "that gay"....safe to say you are one of those dudes that dont like to be proven wrong to the point that you convince you own self that you right though facts point otherwise.Im done. Rather talk to a wall.Its essentially the same. accomplishes nothing.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@willieg54 Weak minded. You didn't give me any links to these videos. Where are the links, weak minded one?

[willieg54]

@RevolvingDoor22 maybe if you where smarter, you could just google them and the vids will come up cause those vids have the quote in it but im sure you arent capable of that........

[blingadude]

@willieg54 You're a retard. I have to agree with RevolvingDoor22...

[willieg54]

@blingadude so you gonna agree that person that call himself a fan and says we should teach younger fans when he doesnt even know the shit he preaches (i seriously dont get how a DAMM SHOOTING STAR PRESS get confused with the F5)..............ok whatever.

[oneUNITED7SS]

@RevolvingDoor22 And the F5 is different from the Marvelousity. The F5 goes from the standing Fireman's Carry into a rotating slam onto the opponent's head (or general front). The Marvelousity ends in a sitdown three quarter headlock position. Much like the stunner actually.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@oneUNITED7SS ok super nerd

[oneUNITED7SS]

@RevolvingDoor22 But what you said is completely one hundred percent true about younger wrestling fans. I'm with you there.

[ScaryHawk865]

@RevolvingDoor22 i've been watching wrestling for a long time but, what the hell does rko even stand for?

[xeonaphobe]

@ScaryHawk865 Randal Keith Orton....it's his initals.

[ScaryHawk865]

@xeonaphobe thanks, i thought it had to do something w/ his middle name but then i thought it would be kinda lame to name a move after his name though he wasn't the 1st one to do that

[nikbatesNLB]

@RevolvingDoor22 The TKO, or Marc Mero's "Marvelousity" is completely different from the move Brock Lesnar did, the F5.

Please, do your part in educating smarmy asses who like to act like douches to the younger generation.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@nikbatesNLB Seriously, I like how you look at everyone elese posts about me getting it incorrect. Are you seriously that big of a loser where you are going to look at other people commenting about the mistake that I made and want to comment yourself hoping to get a high rating? Guess what asshole, I have highest rated comment, which means they are people who look past the mistake and understand the meaning. However, I always anticipate mental midgets like you coming around. Good day:).

[nikbatesNLB]

@RevolvingDoor22 Lol who cares about highest rated comment, I hate people using age against a younger generation. It doesn't matter if its a music video for The Doors & someone said that today's youth doesn't know good music like this. I would've said the same thing. There's no need for comments like that, cuz just as much as you think you are superior, someone can bring up Buddy Rogers, Bob Backlund and Bruno Sammartino to you. Besides, I don't need to read other comments to know my WWE history

[RevolvingDoor22]

@nikbatesNLB Hey little guy, you wanted to start with me, so now you got used and you are upset. Its OK to be a superfan though. You can't help it if you are that into wrestling and have to study it up and down. Its ok:)

[nikbatesNLB]

@RevolvingDoor22 Hell yeah I got used, I mean you had a higher rated comment! Don't be mad you're probably not moving along with the times as well as others are. Like I said, you're probably going to be that old geezer "Back in my day, music actually meant something! Wrestlers actually wrestled! Back in my day, gas was only $4!" fuck outta here old man, struggling with your elitist ideologies just because you are a bit older. It's not a matter of the wrestling, I said that already.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@nikbatesNLB You have issues. I never called myself an elitist nor did I go into how things were in the "old days". You are going off on a tangent and through your comments it seems that you have animosity towards older people. Or maybe it is authority? Maybe you are one of those little fag emo kids who think they are adults because something that happened on 'One Tree Hill' or 'Everwood' happened to them in their life. You show your immaturity through your commenting, so keep talking, please.

[nikbatesNLB]

@RevolvingDoor22 You were separating yourself from others using age, attempting to make yourself seem superior. Elitist and typical of someone who would use "the old days" argument. Animosity towards older people? No not at all. Animosity towards anyone who posts unnecessary hate comments toward anything. Yes. Doesn't matter if you're 8 saying Justin Bieber is gay, 18 saying Kanye West sucks or 80 saying Punk Rock music is crap. All of that is unnecessary and unwarranted.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@nikbatesNLB YOUR whole argument is unnecessary and unwarranted. You're the one bringing up this supposed "elitist" ideology, remember? Or maybe you can't remember because of your raging 15 year old hormones telling you to believe in your flights of ideas. The truth is that YOU are the elitist. You believe so strongly in this idea that you have projected on to me (from maybe an abusive authority figure in your life) that nothing else matters to you. Just like a child going through puberty.

[nikbatesNLB]

@RevolvingDoor22 lmao that doesn't make sense at all, I already explained why your original comment was unnecessary.

[bmsman816]

@nikbatesNLB exactly the Marvelousity is spun backwards and also he does kinda like a cutter with it

[jeste4187]

@nikbatesNLB Dude, the guy mislabled the move, but the message is clear. Hilarious how everyone jumped on him but he is correct. The wrestlers of today just suck. You are retarded for jumping on him for a typo when the message is totally clear.

[nikbatesNLB]

@jeste4187 Obviously you didn't understand any of my messages, because I don't care about the typo.

[jeste4187]

@nikbatesNLB Well then I guess that shows that you are unable to understand the larger picture of things rather than harp on small details. I understand what he tried to say. Your opinion is yours though.

[nikbatesNLB]

@jeste4187 No you obviously didn't. I had a problem with him claiming we should "educate the newer generation" or whatever it was, especially when he doesn't even know some of the facts. I don't know why you continue to believe I cared about what he called the finisher...

[jeste4187]

@nikbatesNLB Like I said, your opinion. You take from it what you want, but minus the little mistake, he is correct.

[MMGxGOOD]

@RevolvingDoor22 fag, its not that big a deal.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@MMGxGOOD then why did you type to me? it probably hurt your feelings to see this didn't it, super-mark?

[MMGxGOOD]

@RevolvingDoor22 wtf? how am i a mark? all i said was its not that big a deal. thats not marking. fag.

[TAhowardrocks]

@RevolvingDoor22 Yeah it always pays to do your research and watch a lot of old school matches when it comes to talking about the origins of different wrestling maneuvers and how they are differently executed.

[enigma3445]

@RevolvingDoor22 and mark mero is the TKO not F-5

[RevolvingDoor22]

@enigma3445 Another Nerdo commenting. Look Super Nerd, I already corrected that mistake. If you are going to jump on it and not look at the true message, then you are an idiot.

[enigma3445]

@RevolvingDoor22 i get the point u r trying to make but still get the names right cause u could be misleading ppl who dont know

[lDieSmiling]

@RevolvingDoor22 And who exactly cares what the name of the move is?

Just watch wrestling and enjoy it.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@lDieSmiling Oh I do, but they came from a great era in wrestling, and that needs to be acknowledged.

[lDieSmiling]

@RevolvingDoor22 Noooooboooody caaares.^^

[StaticMajor502]

@RevolvingDoor22 LOL this comment is begging for thumbs up. And I agree with the whole point of educating the younger guys but ermmm I'm not saying I know everything but errr I think u may have got a few things wrong there :L

[TopDog69]

@RevolvingDoor22 Pretty sure the 'Marvelousity' is a different move completely to the F5. Marvelousity to my knowledge is a TKO, fireman's carry in to a cutter. F5 is fireman's carry facebuster.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@TopDog69 Very good. Thats already been addressed. GET OFF OF IT!

[TopDog69]

@RevolvingDoor22 Well excuse me for not having the time to trawl through 747 comments. Cretin.

[solo13th]

@RevolvingDoor22 ok 'Marvelousity' was a 'TKO' not a F5. DDP was not the first to do the cutter Johnny Ace aka John Laurinaitis was and he called it the ace crusher.The FU or the AA is not a Death vally Driver its a standing fireman's carry.

Please, before you start to educate the young fans, educate yourself first. your welcome.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@solo13th See below, its already been addressed. I got it wrong. BIG FUCKING DEAL. It is wrestling, lol. Seriously, get a life lol.

[solo13th]

@RevolvingDoor22 :O my bad i didnt go though all of tha pages to found how you corrected your dumbass little comment, sorry about that. btw tha problem is not that you got EVERYTHING WRONG its that your such a fucking asshole to try and talk down to the younger fans for probley not knowing the original names of moves, when you dont know them either.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@solo13th Sweetie, don't get upset. You are too young. I did not get everything wrong. I know that you have personal issues with being young because you are still "finding yourself", but let me help you: you are a little girl who obviously loves wrestling to the point that you are a super fan. "Oh, he twists his thumb up so its not that move". LOL, Come on. Just shut up and maybe your boyfriend will touch you so you can tell your other BFFs. LOL. Later, baby girl.

[solo13th]

@RevolvingDoor22 im not going to address all those lame ass insults of yours, all im gonna say is.... What part of your first comment was RIGHT? Marvelousity is not a F5, ddp didnt invent the cutter, and the aa is not a dvd. so if you didnt get everything wrong what was right?

[Rob23]

Could anyone PLEASE HELP me with this situation - I'm in absolute dire straits, whenever I unlock a wrestler e.g. Chyna or Slaughter, I always save the acomplishments on the memory card before playing - but when I switch the power off the playstation, and turn the game on again - the unlocked wrestlers are gone??

[RevolvingDoor22]

@Rob23 The problem is that you are a dork.

[Rob23]

@RevolvingDoor22 Fuck you, go finger yourself

[RevolvingDoor22]

@Rob23 LOLOLOL DDOOOORRRRRRKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

[Rob23]

@RevolvingDoor22 lol I know your a dork, you dont have to keep telling us.

[RevolvingDoor22]

@Rob23 yeaaaaaa, I am not the one begging youtube viewers to help you with your precious unlocked wrestlers. Seriously, this game is like 7 years old. Get a job.

[Rob23]

@RevolvingDoor22 Well if this game is for 7 year olds, you too are posting in a thread for 7 year olds - you stupid fucking hypocrite. get a life, and stop stalking people on here, your creepy.

[ThaKingzsouljahPR777]

where's that idiot going shane?! lol!

[TequilaAssassin4eva]

god-awful motion capture..I can't believe I was mesmerized by this kind of animation when everyone else was playing WCW/NWO World Tour and Revenge

[bcliff1]

paul beraees 450 owns justin gabriels

[BenEduNar]

oye como saco un remate

[tarantula152]

No Mercy > Attitude > Revenge > WrestleMania 2000

[TequilaAssassin4eva]

@tarantula152 that might make a little more sense if you turn the '>' around....alot more, actually heh

[leozzination]

did jacqueline just fall off the turnbuckle? :)