War never makes sense but civil war is the most senseless and worse of all. Americans first and foremost, democrats or republicans a far second, don't let these arsehole politician's on both sides divide us any further.
This opening remains one of the most memorable of any film I've ever seen. I saw this with my dad when I was 10 years old. Until I saw it again, at 17, I never forgot it.
This is a great movie which is even better on Blu-Ray with the included scenes. The problem most people had with it was they misunderstood the style in which it was filmed. It has a very "stage-like" quality in it with the actors giving speeches to the audience to help convey the emotions of the moment. People didn't understand that and went into this movie thinking it would be like Gettysburg, but they are filmed in different styles.
The real casualty of the Civil War was the loss of the tenth amendment and the subsequent growth in power of the federal government. and we all (on both sides of the Civil War) see what the result of that is. The further the seat of governmental power is away from the people, the more corrupt, unaccountable and arrogant it becomes as it buys votes by govt handouts and steals money from corporate interests. Both the entitlement culture and the special interests have destroyed this country.
i got this blu ray and i love it and i love this movie and gettysburg and better pic for both movie. soon i go buy history about civil war it called gettysburg it coming out blu ray. and my cuzin and me think it go happen again will rise again. why maybe try fix this country and fight it. cuz we know this country is fallin apart slowing. we may be wrong. i mean if they win ( long time ago) it could be alot different we live in i talkin like no gas just use horse u know. but who know tho
meh, a nigger is still a nigger to me. who cares if they sacriced their lifes for us. they still be niggers. altough cotton is not what it used to be.... :D :D hahahahahahaha
@24michiganironbrigad Seeing as how the yanks won the war, they created their own problems, You can burn in hell for false accusations against the glorious South. Next time you comment on something think about what your going to say. As for us "scum" the damn yankees were alot worse than we were and only won do to the slaughtering of their own men. If both sides had the same number of men this country would be in 2 pieces right now.
I really like this movie. It's the best movie I've ever watched. I watched it about 8-9 months ago but still listening to the soundtrack and watching the scenes.
Although I do not agree with the South succeeding back in the 1860's, and i do not agree with the south to impose more of a "Englishman" type of establishment and a type of nobility that was with the South, and given if i were given the choice to fight back then that would most certainly fight with the Union, I really do respect the south for their efforts to win the war. And they almost did, only Lee and Longstreet did not work as a team at Gettysburg. Too bad many good men died. Brothers.....
the problems we have today,Id say roughly 90% can be traced back to the result of this WAR,the civil war,the govt of our forefathers died in 1865,the hellish nightmare we see today the feds,you yankees goddamn union govt, was born at the conclusion of this war, if we dont have the right to secede,then we dont have rights designated for Truly Free people,Hell the right to secede is in My States Constitution,TEXAS.when where forced back in the union,it broke an agreement,between Texas and US :(
@24michiganironbrigad There's plenty of us Tea Partiers in EVERY state, dumbass. And we will take back this nation from the grasp of communism, and the hatred of the scum like you will be vanquished.
@NevadaWrangler Communism eh? Please enlighten us ignorant Americans as to how this country is becoming communistic? Maybe you tea partiers were once looked at as legitimate, but now you're looked at by a lot as obstructionists who cause millions to suffer because of your unwillingness to compromise with anyone who thinks differently. Also, fighting hatred by calling people scum and telling them you'll "vanquish" them? Well I guess it takes scum to know scum.
@24michiganironbrigad You know that if the Union hadn't oppressed the south after the war, then the southerners wouldn't have been provoked to take it out on black people and the KKK either wouldn't have been as prevailant or not have existed at all! The start of Big government also goes back to the Union oppressing southerners after the war with radical republicans (Now progressives).
@24michiganironbrigad And The Tea party wants to stop socialism from destroying the country, and it will because eventually people will get tired of working for money that gets given to people who won't work and then nobody will work at all, so you be quiet.
most civil war films paint the picture of the confederates as all of them being evil and the north as the heroes this film portrays the civil war in a more realistic manor than most and for that I thank its makers
@TheNewDaySucks I have ancestors on both sides, many of the people fighting for the Union didn't want to invade and kill fellow Americans but they were forced by Lincoln (who was one of the greatest tyrants in our history). It was truly the worst war America has ever faced, I know Lincoln is burning in hell right now for it.
Robert Duval did an excellent job of portraying General Lee, I thought. I agree, sad, sad, sad war. Two intertwined regions of one country, the same people, thought they were agreeing to a "contract" when, in reality, neither side was agreeing to what the other side thought they were. In contract law, one side cannot breach the contract without incurring penalties. So the issue is and was: did the original "contract", the Constitution, bind all parties for good, or not
We didn't fight the American Civil War so we can bitch about it a century and a half later. Enough with the Politics. We've enough bloodshed as it is.
Despite it not doing welll at the box office, I'm of the opinion that this is one of the best films of all time. It was much more historically accurate than most, and I love Robert Duvall.
I hope he can do the next installment of the last full measure. Its supposed to be filmed all around my area. I love living here near Petersburg, Richmond, and close to so many battlefields.
the war was tragic for both sides; 2% of the United States population was dead; many small towns lost many young men for no reason; being from a border state I believe the politcians on both sides were wrong; of course they didn't fight in the war; truly the War Between the States is was an unjustified war and many lives were lost for no reason
to those who support the south on here, your right, the south had every right in the world to break off from the union doing the civil war, but the same constitution that allows u to do that also allows the other states in the union to declare war and bring u back to the union. in a weird messed up way the civil war demonstrated that the constitution worked flawlessly. besides, the US was always stronger if all the states stood together, and more importantly its people.
@Edohiguma The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln with attempts being made on General Grant,Secretary of State Seward and Vice President Andrew Johnson was more dangerous than the Surrender of The Army of Northern Virginia under Robert E Lee.John Wilkes Booth and others were more than dangerous they were more than a threat they were in fact the enemy within,a most dangerous presence.
I am a civil war reenactor of the south and I believe the Sothern States of the Confederacy got screwd.The states should be governed by themselves not by people washington!!!!
I reenact the American Civil War in Britain believe it or not. I also reenact Vikings, and am looking into doing Britons vs Romans, but back to the topic:
This war reminds me of the war between Gaul and Rome. The Confederates are like Gaul and the Union were like Rome, and naturally, I would fight for Gaul.
Hence why I reenact Confederates now, because I believe they were morally right.
Yeah the Federal Army was all about Freedom and Justice! Tell that to the Western Natives in post wars years when their villages were destroyed and civilians killed by the orders of DC politicians. People don't realize that MANY Natives fought for the Confederacy because the South was less interested in expansion.
The rift is because Irish people gave up the redneck culture and black people kept it. The reason why is because someone convinced them to defend the corrosive culture as "black" the democrats still do this and they formed the KKK to keep blacks stupid and poor as well
@InCMPunkWeTrust So you would have them believe their own culture is inferior and that it's not even theirs? Come on. Do you see any blacks flying the stars and bars? I didn't think so. If anyone kept redneck culture, it was the scotch-irish. The KKK was formed to keep blacks living in fear via murder, rape, and theft. The dems campaigned and still campaign for black rights to this day. No one is blaming the GOP for the formation of the KKK, so no need to make this political.
You need to understand 1/3 of white people were illiterate ad 90% of blacks were. Blacks were raised alongside with the poorest most criminal elements of scotch Irish serfs. This is where their culture comes from. Not Africa or anywhere else but these
@InCMPunkWeTrust I really don't care if you think I know what I'm talking about. I will not deny that the two cultures augmented eachother, but if what you say is true, then how do you explain the massive rift between present day poor whites and poor blacks?
Besides every argument and debates that go on here I have to say that this song is wonderful and the movie was a GREAT tribute to BOTH sides and may the dead of both sides RIP...
Haha. The north lost! Look at them now! No identity or legitimacy and being destroyed by the ancestors they fought to free. Southerners are descended from the oldest European immigrants. The south has enough culture and identity to survive millions of maurading black people but does the north?
@Fishsticks187 What is called black culture is the remnant of illiterate Scottish and Irish immigrants. Southern blacks inherited the culture of underclass white immigrants. You have no clue what you are talking about. Read black rednecks and white liberals.
@hist1man So your saying that those poor boys who were fighting to protect their HOMES from being burned, and their wives, sisters, mothers, and sweethearts from being RAPED, many who owned NO slaves, not even shoes, outnumbered and starving, were evil? 50,000 blacks served for the south, freed blacks had slaves too - as did northerners. A lot were just fighitng to impress a girl, or for adventure, or pay. War appeals to many young men just because its EXITING they weren't EVIL. Just LOYAL
Grant knew how to win and The Ultimate vistory was the Norths though Lee was a very excellent commander he had many excellent commanders all around him.A most honored Abraham Lincoln wrote of the fruitful fields with the introduction of this nations first National Day of Thanksgiving.This grew out of Abraham Lincolns Gettysburg Address and that particular event at Gettysburg,pa
@mgummy91 i agree, but when you have ignorant people calling the confederates ignorant monsters for their actions it gets pretty offensive, especially when you have confederate relatives like i do. neither side can be looked at as the enemy considering we were all americans.
@Mr18yearoldvirgin lol. pissed are we? I think it was more then that. But hey if you people in the south were not backwards bumkin sister fucking hicks you may know what winning a war is like.
@TwistedComplex Yeah you're right but the save the best for last those backwards bumkin sister fucking hicks never walked a way with a nation Ouch Bro! And great shit to see the once great General Lee surrender the the great General and one of our great Presidents Grant. Great to have you here my fellow American :o)
@TwistedComplex Fuckin' A Bro. If you're happy then I'm happy. I'm glad you agree to Keep Presidents Lincoln and Granon the 5 and 50 Dollars. Well again i dis-agree if Lee was so good he wouldn't have surrender to the greater man on the battle field General Grant.
@TheIceman567 yeah, enjoy the waning years of this empire
the day this country finally staggers and dies like the lumbering beast it is will be the day that people can experience true freedom
till then, enjoy your phones being tapped while police brutality is rampant, a continuously spiraling economy, raising gas prices, raising obesity rates, cancer rates, homelessness
no wonder the south won almost every battle. this country is full of pigs and rats. just too bad they outnumbered the CSA
@TwistedComplex Oh i shall. You can keep crying about your lost. It's still great almost every battle? But not Gettysburg ouch the big on and General Sherman's march . And yet the Best for last April 9, 1865 Lee's surrender. Ouch so close but yet so far.
@TheIceman567 It is unfortunate that it appears you know not of the quality of mercy.The Confederates with guts and glory in their heart were still without shoes.The surrender was without malice as neither man saught to lesson our belief in each other.The conversation at the surrender almost was of another day.It was both the great care and the care for each oither that that table knew on that fatefull day in April 1865.Worthy of mention is the surrender of Thomas Moseby
The United States was and is a tyranny, governed by a few politicians in D.C. with their own interests at heart and complete disregard for the will of the people or the states. The federal government did not form the states. We the people formed the federal government. Therefore, the states are sovereign and the union is a VOLUNTARY alliance that should be dissolved if that be the wish of the people. The Southern states got screwed and simply wished to free themselves of this oppresive tyranny.
@ntheo93 Flesh and Bone is not the answer on this very day.The South possessed much in the name of a foreign power even genteel manhood.That is the South was unduly under the influence of not merely a foreign power but a influence that was decidedly European. These interests can be said to be Brazilian,Portugese,Italian,Dutch,English and perhaps even French.This in what underwrote the place that slavery had in as it were the new world.
@Uncle65788 The Dutch are perhaps the first notable instance whereby Raw Goods in the form of spices and the such were invested in-it was overseas trading that seemingly underwrote the earlier period of commodities investing.Hamilton went almost out of his way to seat as it were the concept of both trade and commerce here in the new world.The very Origins of what today is the NYSE came directly from his efforts.Which as well were influenced by Great Britain and there stock exchange
@Uncle65788 The American Revolution needed to raise Bonds in order to as it were underwrite the colonial army.Though much more as it was civil the actually revolution required funding.There were differences to come however money or its equal in value was established at this point in time
@ntheo93, nothing in the constitution says anything that a state has the right to cecede from the Union. What the Southern States did was illegal. What they were doing is trying to tear this country apart.
@expertstrategy No, but it does state that anything not directly specified under the constitution is strictly reserved for the states to decide. The northern-dominated federal government was overreaching its own constitutional power to further its agenda and force ridiculously high taxes on Southern farmers to benefit Northern industries. True, the wealth of the South depended on slavery. But the wealth of the North depended on the South. The entire world was built on slavery, like it or not.
@ntheo93 It was not.The wealth of the North did not depend on the South.things are reversed.If that had been true then the south had the North right where they wanted them.The words of perpetual are used in the federalist papers and the like plus it was a European Man who ruled the culture of the slave trade.Born of both Dutch and English and Negro Rulers slavery stained this world perhaps of ours.It was that that was what there was an attempt to preserve.
If the wealth of the North depended on the South, why is it that the Northern economy only grew over the course of the Civil War? Additionally, your statement that "the entire world was built on slavery" is something of a moot point, as the world was built on thousands of antiquated, barbaric practices that were done away with as society progressed. Slavery, specifically, was abolished in just about every civilized country save for the US at the time of the Civil War.
The whole world was not built on slavery lol. The industrial revolution was not done by chattel slaves. The largest period of economic growth in the US was post slavery 1880s-1920s.
@AnglosphereAlliance The industrial revolution was long over in the 1880s. Workers during it were kept under extremely poor conditions. Children were forced to work often risking their lives. Sure, people got paid, but they were hardly equal.
I am not for equality. Economic, political, and social equality is a fantasy. There were numerous "industrial revolutions" as new large productivity increases happened during various points. The Industrial Revolution largely ended in the West in the 1990s if you looked at the timeline. People went to work in those conditions because it was better than farm life and paid more. Life is not a bowl of cherries and there are no entitlements to anything. Only tech makes life easier
@AnglosphereAlliance Plus, when you look into Europe during the industrial revolution, you will find plenty of monarches that had no parliaments. Eventually these monarches allowed parliaments, but voting was usually restricted to a small group of people, commonly based on money and power. Okay, I wouldn't call it "slavery", but it was hardly a free society of equal citizens.
@ntheo93 Stfu you cant own slaves get over yourself no one cares what your pussy secessionist ass thinks. The Union for ever all 50 will fall or rise together
It is my hope that I can use this footage to show my own personal Nationalisim and Love of my Country. My hope is that I may get permission from the makers of this great film.
In a way all criticisim in the world is true of our country. But in seeking what unites us is a common cause. In the days of the civil War the greater cause won. Not for nationalisim, or anyones personal gain. That seed which has been planted in our hearts still remains and will always be the the USA. No matter what way you slice it up, bomb it, put it down it has always rose above all it's adversity and trouble. A the good will always cherish it's freedom and liberty as a gift from God himself.
exactly, why should we care about what generations past did for us? they only fought and died to give us what we have today, but now that we have stupid precious fucking iPhones with 6 billion apps and most people only use 5, myspace, twitter, facebook, youtube and one other choice, our "idols" are changing every season, and we are so interested in what that fat bitch Snookie is up to every week. George Carlin said it best that "this country is full of nitwits and assholes... and no one cares"
@MrFloppy19 Speaking in generalities does not equal absolutes, I dont care about any of that stuff, I dont even like George Carlin he criticized a lot but I never saw him intending to do anything about it.
"The more we study the less blame we have to put on the USA for the slave trade with Black Africa-it was pioneered by Africa,its economic mechanism was invented by the italians and portugese,it was run by western european interests and perhaps most importantly it was conducted with the full cooperation of many african kings.
@BabylonWhore666 I don't mind that dear.It is very almost unsettling to read carefully how real the struggle was while yet we were to be born.It was then that these seeds were sown, for this scaring required the bloodletting that was to come.It is a terrible world with an almost unceasing struggle that promises more blood and more blood shedding.Is there other than merely more bloodshedding?
@BabylonWhore666 thus far there has not been any field of combat whereby forces represented by the United States have eclipsed 605,000 dead.The sacrifice of some 605,000 Confederate as well as Union soldiers has as thus been unequaled.The question to you would be is there an answer other than more of the same to look forward to-?
@Uncle65788 You really do speak a load of shit. Do you notice people making excuses and shuffling away when you start talking to them? I would imagine not.
This video, more than any other that I have seen, embodies the Civil War from the perspective of the fighting man. Do you think that these men fought under THESE flags because of anything other than a sense of preserving their homes?
It is mentioned mostly as perhaps a coincidence but one that is interesting.The latter part of The Revolutionary War was fought as it was in the South.Iam not contending exclusively however many important and even dramatic battles between British and Colonial interests did indeed happen to take place in the South.
Good old General George Washington stated in Oct.1775 "that neither negroes,boys unable to bear arms,nor old men unfit to endure the fatigues of the campaign are to be enlisted"The greater time period may very well be the Revolutionary War as both sides are terribly ugly though it seems I might really rather be English.They did not believe in Slavery and Freed Slaves actually fought against Continental Army.there is a story of a mutiliated black regiment when defeated by colonists as a revenge
Lets see the British Empire was the one who transported the african slaves here in the first place, it was the British empire who after dumping african slavery decided to colonized the vast majority of Africa. Why need slaves when you have subjects? Plus Africa itself was infested with homegrown slavery. The kingdom of Congo made the vast majority of their wealth by selling slaves. In fact slavery was the world wide norm until the 19th and 20th century.
@kepler1000 Portugal was the first having established a virtual monopoly on the African Slave Trade until the mid 1650s,when Holland became a major competitor.In the period 1700-1800 Britain became the leading importer of Slaves to the Americas.In 1807 Britain outlawed the slave trade.The slave trade was abolished by Britain in 1812 and subsequently by all other European countries.Portugal and France continued to import slaves though as contract laborers
I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."
Abraham Lincoln, March 4, 1861, From His First Inaugural Address
A solemn note is sounded here that Great Britain freed slaves in its fight with the Continental Army during the American Revolution.It is a verifiable dilemma that Great Britain did not believe in slavery and during our revolutionary war with them, Great Britain that is The interests of the crown were upheld by freed slaves.
@Uncle65788 I have a feeling that the Crown used the prospect of slave uprisings, in prospect of freedom, as a means to an end only. The British new that "freeing" slaves would further weaken the already strained continental army. I doubt very seriously the British crown cared much for Southern freed slaves or the the right of freedom for slaves in general.
@dottore1234 Both North as well as South which was not any different during the Revolutionary War.the respected sides did most certainly fear that the arming of the negro would lead to resurrection and iminent peril for slave holders alike.As I said both sides are held culpable
I know this sentiment has been echoed here on more than one occassion however it would certainly be a good day if in fact the third part could be brought forth so that the trilogy have a chance to come full circle.This song,"Gods and Generals", "Gettysburg" are some of the best perhaps even on the silver screen.This seems to encompass more than its particular place in time it seems to mean more though we are not the same as a result.A significant chapter in history was written with Civil War
@PSTripler so your called African Americans scum I don't know if you knew this that some of the freed slaves felt the same way as the confederate solders did about the north invading there were quite a few black regiments in the confederate army. the south fought for what they believed in so how bout you get your lame ass off here.
@SgtGrant23 Name 1-I know there were never any casualties as a result of mortal combat but there were man servants,orderlies and the like but none,no not a single negro gave his life for the confederate cause.This hysterical nonsence has been bandied about in very cavalier fashion perhaps you should temper such thinking with a resolve to know before you say these very unsubstantial and unsubstantiated claims.There were next to nothing resembling anything as quite a few black regiments the CSA
Glad you are someone who can positively state that there were no negro Confederate Soldiers who fought for the South. However, Jason Boone was a negro freeman who left his farm (which he owned) to join the 41st Va. Inf. Since I was not there as you were I can only tell you that he served until the end of the war and received a pension for his Confederate service from the State of Virginia. He has a CS stone over his grave and his 98 year old grandaughter has the CS battle flag that draped it.
@riflepit1 Laborers,orderlies,man servants,cooks,drummers, however it was upon reading testimony sworn to before a representative legal body whereby Nathan Bedford Forest said that he had blacks in his corps.It was not entirely clear what purpose such representation provided however it was clear enough that Blacks as such were not absent from the battlefield as some qualifying positions would state that the negro served in the confederate army.
@Uncle65788 Because the idea of a negro corp serving in the Civil War on the side of the confederacy would destroy the idea that the Civil War was about the liberation of enslaved blacks in the South. We can't have that, can we?
@dottore1234 that is not true both North and South are hereby held culpable.It is most interesting to discover that 1/5th of the total population was enslaved as of 1776.It accounted for some 500.000 negroes.It is further estimated that there were some 5,000 African Americans that served in the Continental Army whereby there were more than 20,000 African Americans that fought for the British.
There is so much lack of awe and scope for what both sides did to each other, and endured for their beliefs, the sheer hardships. And zero appreciation by narcissistic coffee house arm chair politicians of today.
its a pity that we Americans wont stand up for whats right anymore, Im a southerner Im always gonna side with Johnny Reb, but I dont wish bad things or have ill will towards yankees of today, we have no morals we have no standards, we are lazy, shiftless, Fat and sassy. we wont stad up to our corrupt govt, we wont stand up for little children being sexually groped just to get on a damn airplane,Im not sure how much further this country ha sto sink, before ppl start giving a damn,again
This is truly a beautiful movie. No other movie has ever been made on the South's Secod War of Independence that better depicted why the men in Blue and Gray fought. Both sides fought for nationalism. The Yanks for American nationalism, the Rebs for Southern nationalism. It being 2011, we should respect and honor those who fought on both sides. They were all Americans.
Sorry, can anyone tell me what is the flag at 2:44? I know its most likely a confederate regimental flag, but can someone identify the regiment, or at least the state it was from?
@campaigner111 agreed boss i aint that smart but i know that Lawrence Chaimberlan did not risk death about 7 times to have this crap happen RIP civil war victims
I have always wondered if our country today will once again break out into another civil war. The economy has put several Americans into poverty. A revolt in Egypt and Libya has created a civil war. Is America next. Personally we should be proud of our country can take care of each other or our country might be in a modern day civil war. Citizens vs. United States Government. Who controls the United States Army: The U.S. Government. After all we are called the United States.
How I love what America used to be. It took me quite a while to realize that it's nothing like it any more, and that it seems beyond hope of restoration due to the moral and cultural decline.
@ErikNorseman We've declined in some ways, and we've progressed in others. The abolition of slavery, the civil rights movement, the labor movement, etc have benefited America. However, individualism, extreme liberality, and the loss of a communitarian ethos has damaged the country greatly. We'll have to hit our rock bottom before we start learning how central these issues are.
I quit ACW reenacting because of two things: FARB and ideology. Let sleeping dogs lie. The conflict ended the way it did for good or ill. Personally I would say good AND ill.
@campaigner111 "Ironically, I think that the character and courage of those men is something that is just not found today in America, and I see a total lack of appreciation for what generations past did for us."
This is valid for all western countries. Egoïsm rules
@bren12688 Well thats not very nice, I dont see why the south didi the wrong thing here, they stood up for something they believed in, sort of like what America did as a hole in the revolution, the south tried to preserve our system of govt which is a cooperation between states and fed power but the north wanted to cut down on that state power, going against our const. The north looted towns, burned farms, and even killed some innocent civilians, if thats the kind of thing you like then I guess
@bren12688 Sherman should have kept on burning, but to me and other normal people thats called murder. The north should have been punished for War Crimes and crimes against humanity, not to mention Lincoln waged war with The CSA without a declaration of war from Congress. You really arent American if you wish ill feelings against your fellow American.
What I find amazing is that they were fighting, and I mean both sides, were fighting to prevent exactly what our country has become!!! I don't think they ever envisioned a country where class differences would deepen, where greed and superficiality would be more important than character and honesty. I will never forget these men, and I am saddened that what they fought for has been largely abandoned and forgotten by the people of this country.
War never makes sense but civil war is the most senseless and worse of all. Americans first and foremost, democrats or republicans a far second, don't let these arsehole politician's on both sides divide us any further.
balgaddy7 1 day ago
The Flag at 3:35 gets me crying everytime.
KEYSERSOZE1965 6 days ago
This opening remains one of the most memorable of any film I've ever seen. I saw this with my dad when I was 10 years old. Until I saw it again, at 17, I never forgot it.
Fishsticks187 1 week ago
words cant describe
jock1454789 2 weeks ago
I just love to see all the flags of that time. I like the confederate flags better though. But theres a couple cool looking yankee flags
AirsofterofOdessa 2 weeks ago
This is a great movie which is even better on Blu-Ray with the included scenes. The problem most people had with it was they misunderstood the style in which it was filmed. It has a very "stage-like" quality in it with the actors giving speeches to the audience to help convey the emotions of the moment. People didn't understand that and went into this movie thinking it would be like Gettysburg, but they are filmed in different styles.
Cassidan 2 weeks ago
The real casualty of the Civil War was the loss of the tenth amendment and the subsequent growth in power of the federal government. and we all (on both sides of the Civil War) see what the result of that is. The further the seat of governmental power is away from the people, the more corrupt, unaccountable and arrogant it becomes as it buys votes by govt handouts and steals money from corporate interests. Both the entitlement culture and the special interests have destroyed this country.
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i got this blu ray and i love it and i love this movie and gettysburg and better pic for both movie. soon i go buy history about civil war it called gettysburg it coming out blu ray. and my cuzin and me think it go happen again will rise again. why maybe try fix this country and fight it. cuz we know this country is fallin apart slowing. we may be wrong. i mean if they win ( long time ago) it could be alot different we live in i talkin like no gas just use horse u know. but who know tho
scar70ify 4 weeks ago
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scar70ify 4 weeks ago
meh, a nigger is still a nigger to me. who cares if they sacriced their lifes for us. they still be niggers. altough cotton is not what it used to be.... :D :D hahahahahahaha
Crunox 1 month ago
3:58 MICHIGAN!!!!
runescapenoob48 1 month ago
@24michiganironbrigad Seeing as how the yanks won the war, they created their own problems, You can burn in hell for false accusations against the glorious South. Next time you comment on something think about what your going to say. As for us "scum" the damn yankees were alot worse than we were and only won do to the slaughtering of their own men. If both sides had the same number of men this country would be in 2 pieces right now.
SouthernBoy022 1 month ago
@SouthernBoy022 Andersonville was a 5 star hotel for Northern prisoners I hear.
NevadaWrangler 4 weeks ago
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I would have liked to see the 54th Mass Infantry colors in the lineup here
Otaku155 1 month ago
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Otaku155 1 month ago
I really like this movie. It's the best movie I've ever watched. I watched it about 8-9 months ago but still listening to the soundtrack and watching the scenes.
TheZalasso 1 month ago
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TheZalasso 1 month ago
Although I do not agree with the South succeeding back in the 1860's, and i do not agree with the south to impose more of a "Englishman" type of establishment and a type of nobility that was with the South, and given if i were given the choice to fight back then that would most certainly fight with the Union, I really do respect the south for their efforts to win the war. And they almost did, only Lee and Longstreet did not work as a team at Gettysburg. Too bad many good men died. Brothers.....
74miller 1 month ago
the problems we have today,Id say roughly 90% can be traced back to the result of this WAR,the civil war,the govt of our forefathers died in 1865,the hellish nightmare we see today the feds,you yankees goddamn union govt, was born at the conclusion of this war, if we dont have the right to secede,then we dont have rights designated for Truly Free people,Hell the right to secede is in My States Constitution,TEXAS.when where forced back in the union,it broke an agreement,between Texas and US :(
BorderCityBandit 1 month ago
@BorderCityBandit Well said. If the gov't doesm't straighten itself out, we may yet get to rectify the situation...
Charonveritas 1 month ago
@BorderCityBandit The reason we have the 90% of the problems we have is because we didn't completely destroy you fucking rebel (now tea party) scum.
24michiganironbrigad 1 month ago
@24michiganironbrigad There's plenty of us Tea Partiers in EVERY state, dumbass. And we will take back this nation from the grasp of communism, and the hatred of the scum like you will be vanquished.
NevadaWrangler 4 weeks ago
@NevadaWrangler AMEN
mrdropkicker1 3 weeks ago
@NevadaWrangler Communism eh? Please enlighten us ignorant Americans as to how this country is becoming communistic? Maybe you tea partiers were once looked at as legitimate, but now you're looked at by a lot as obstructionists who cause millions to suffer because of your unwillingness to compromise with anyone who thinks differently. Also, fighting hatred by calling people scum and telling them you'll "vanquish" them? Well I guess it takes scum to know scum.
jayers2 21 hours ago
@24michiganironbrigad You know that if the Union hadn't oppressed the south after the war, then the southerners wouldn't have been provoked to take it out on black people and the KKK either wouldn't have been as prevailant or not have existed at all! The start of Big government also goes back to the Union oppressing southerners after the war with radical republicans (Now progressives).
mrdropkicker1 3 weeks ago 2
@24michiganironbrigad And The Tea party wants to stop socialism from destroying the country, and it will because eventually people will get tired of working for money that gets given to people who won't work and then nobody will work at all, so you be quiet.
mrdropkicker1 3 weeks ago
This song is just so beutiful and so fitting for the film.
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lesmiseponine 2 months ago in playlist lesmiseponine's favorites
I don't understand the critics either. This movie is great.
williamkinchen 2 months ago
long live stonewall jackson
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1111Tesla 2 months ago
most civil war films paint the picture of the confederates as all of them being evil and the north as the heroes this film portrays the civil war in a more realistic manor than most and for that I thank its makers
TheNewDaySucks 2 months ago 4
@TheNewDaySucks I have ancestors on both sides, many of the people fighting for the Union didn't want to invade and kill fellow Americans but they were forced by Lincoln (who was one of the greatest tyrants in our history). It was truly the worst war America has ever faced, I know Lincoln is burning in hell right now for it.
fortisKID 2 months ago
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lesmiseponine 2 months ago
My Favourite two movies at the age of 4. :) And I aint even from the US. :)
BorsBaledwyr 2 months ago
Robert Duval did an excellent job of portraying General Lee, I thought. I agree, sad, sad, sad war. Two intertwined regions of one country, the same people, thought they were agreeing to a "contract" when, in reality, neither side was agreeing to what the other side thought they were. In contract law, one side cannot breach the contract without incurring penalties. So the issue is and was: did the original "contract", the Constitution, bind all parties for good, or not
TheMacGhabhann 3 months ago
Sad, sad, sad War.
ItNice26 3 months ago
Deo Vendice and Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Lubbockrebel 3 months ago
We didn't fight the American Civil War so we can bitch about it a century and a half later. Enough with the Politics. We've enough bloodshed as it is.
Lepper36 3 months ago 2
Even brothers fight. Even good men can fight for the wrong causes. That doesn't make the cause right, but it doesn't make the men evil.
iwishihad2000feet 3 months ago
Despite it not doing welll at the box office, I'm of the opinion that this is one of the best films of all time. It was much more historically accurate than most, and I love Robert Duvall.
TheRampantScot89 3 months ago 17
Wspaniałe
krolestwonawarry 3 months ago
FOR THE UNIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
cwood4ever 3 months ago
something about this scene, cheers for uploading
joergn83 3 months ago in playlist More videos from darkkristall
thumbs up if u get tired of people still fighting the civil war.
Champcelticsnumber9 4 months ago 4
The movie the last full measure is planned to come out in 2014.
crazzykiphunter 4 months ago
@crazzykiphunter Thats a movie about Vietnam, not the civil war
RevBillyRayCollins 4 months ago
This scene always gives me chills. I makes me think of love for a country, and what people will do to protect what they cherish.
CanadianGuerrilla 4 months ago 4
I wish they would film "The Last Full Measure!"
Burco1 5 months ago 20
I hope he can do the next installment of the last full measure. Its supposed to be filmed all around my area. I love living here near Petersburg, Richmond, and close to so many battlefields.
Imachowderhead 5 months ago
Stop talking about politics and honor our forefathers who died for what they believed.
Fishsticks187 5 months ago 2
the war was tragic for both sides; 2% of the United States population was dead; many small towns lost many young men for no reason; being from a border state I believe the politcians on both sides were wrong; of course they didn't fight in the war; truly the War Between the States is was an unjustified war and many lives were lost for no reason
redskins1111 5 months ago 3
to those who support the south on here, your right, the south had every right in the world to break off from the union doing the civil war, but the same constitution that allows u to do that also allows the other states in the union to declare war and bring u back to the union. in a weird messed up way the civil war demonstrated that the constitution worked flawlessly. besides, the US was always stronger if all the states stood together, and more importantly its people.
arcangel242 5 months ago 3
Obviously, judging by these comments, quite a few people have never actually taken a non-biased civil war history course.
Notimeleftforyou2 5 months ago
@Notimeleftforyou2 Non biased as in "repeat the lie that Lincoln was the savior of the slaves"?
Edohiguma 5 months ago
@Edohiguma The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln with attempts being made on General Grant,Secretary of State Seward and Vice President Andrew Johnson was more dangerous than the Surrender of The Army of Northern Virginia under Robert E Lee.John Wilkes Booth and others were more than dangerous they were more than a threat they were in fact the enemy within,a most dangerous presence.
Uncle65788 3 months ago
I am a civil war reenactor of the south and I believe the Sothern States of the Confederacy got screwd.The states should be governed by themselves not by people washington!!!!
EL1TEsniper21 5 months ago
I reenact the American Civil War in Britain believe it or not. I also reenact Vikings, and am looking into doing Britons vs Romans, but back to the topic:
This war reminds me of the war between Gaul and Rome. The Confederates are like Gaul and the Union were like Rome, and naturally, I would fight for Gaul.
Hence why I reenact Confederates now, because I believe they were morally right.
moon666watcher 5 months ago
This song always puts a lump in my throat... YET I cannot stop listening to it.
GlasgowCeltic88 5 months ago
This singer can't hit the higher notes without bellowing.
Has anyone else released a version of this song?
macconnell100 5 months ago
Yeah the Federal Army was all about Freedom and Justice! Tell that to the Western Natives in post wars years when their villages were destroyed and civilians killed by the orders of DC politicians. People don't realize that MANY Natives fought for the Confederacy because the South was less interested in expansion.
HaggenPagan26 6 months ago 2
The rift is because Irish people gave up the redneck culture and black people kept it. The reason why is because someone convinced them to defend the corrosive culture as "black" the democrats still do this and they formed the KKK to keep blacks stupid and poor as well
InCMPunkWeTrust 6 months ago
@InCMPunkWeTrust So you would have them believe their own culture is inferior and that it's not even theirs? Come on. Do you see any blacks flying the stars and bars? I didn't think so. If anyone kept redneck culture, it was the scotch-irish. The KKK was formed to keep blacks living in fear via murder, rape, and theft. The dems campaigned and still campaign for black rights to this day. No one is blaming the GOP for the formation of the KKK, so no need to make this political.
Fishsticks187 6 months ago
@Fishsticks187 Fine. Stay poor and stupid like hill billies and rednecks. It won't affect me.
InCMPunkWeTrust 6 months ago
@InCMPunkWeTrust Let's just agree to disagree.
Fishsticks187 6 months ago
You need to understand 1/3 of white people were illiterate ad 90% of blacks were. Blacks were raised alongside with the poorest most criminal elements of scotch Irish serfs. This is where their culture comes from. Not Africa or anywhere else but these
InCMPunkWeTrust 6 months ago
@InCMPunkWeTrust I really don't care if you think I know what I'm talking about. I will not deny that the two cultures augmented eachother, but if what you say is true, then how do you explain the massive rift between present day poor whites and poor blacks?
Fishsticks187 6 months ago
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ntheo93 6 months ago
Besides every argument and debates that go on here I have to say that this song is wonderful and the movie was a GREAT tribute to BOTH sides and may the dead of both sides RIP...
wellletsseewatisgood 6 months ago 2
Please stop the endless debates and enjoy the music.
imperialmovies66 6 months ago
Haha. The north lost! Look at them now! No identity or legitimacy and being destroyed by the ancestors they fought to free. Southerners are descended from the oldest European immigrants. The south has enough culture and identity to survive millions of maurading black people but does the north?
InCMPunkWeTrust 6 months ago 3
@InCMPunkWeTrust You're kidding right? the only good things about southern culture are definitively black.
Fishsticks187 6 months ago
@Fishsticks187 What is called black culture is the remnant of illiterate Scottish and Irish immigrants. Southern blacks inherited the culture of underclass white immigrants. You have no clue what you are talking about. Read black rednecks and white liberals.
InCMPunkWeTrust 6 months ago
It's not ok to justify your evil southern ancestors. We should all thank god everyday that they lost.
hist1man 6 months ago
@hist1man So your saying that those poor boys who were fighting to protect their HOMES from being burned, and their wives, sisters, mothers, and sweethearts from being RAPED, many who owned NO slaves, not even shoes, outnumbered and starving, were evil? 50,000 blacks served for the south, freed blacks had slaves too - as did northerners. A lot were just fighitng to impress a girl, or for adventure, or pay. War appeals to many young men just because its EXITING they weren't EVIL. Just LOYAL
Butternut731863 6 months ago
@Butternut731863 You make a lot of good points, however, freedmen (i.e. slaves) were only free on paper. They could easily have been forced to serve.
Fishsticks187 6 months ago
@hist1man i take pride in my southern heritage, and youre an ignorant asshole to insult my ancestors like that.
dalton9931 6 months ago
Grant knew how to win and The Ultimate vistory was the Norths though Lee was a very excellent commander he had many excellent commanders all around him.A most honored Abraham Lincoln wrote of the fruitful fields with the introduction of this nations first National Day of Thanksgiving.This grew out of Abraham Lincolns Gettysburg Address and that particular event at Gettysburg,pa
Uncle65788 6 months ago
The civil war remains constantly fought by idiots on the internet. Both sides lost the war, leave it at that and honor those who gave their lives.
mgummy91 7 months ago
@mgummy91 i agree, but when you have ignorant people calling the confederates ignorant monsters for their actions it gets pretty offensive, especially when you have confederate relatives like i do. neither side can be looked at as the enemy considering we were all americans.
dalton9931 7 months ago
How come the civil war brings out the biggest idiots
fishsandwichpatrol 7 months ago
@fishsandwichpatrol
Don't worry. Every war we can remember does the same.
Don't mind the children.
Kang5030 7 months ago
The Union Forever!
TheIceman567 7 months ago
@TheIceman567 Fuckin' Yank
Mr18yearoldvirgin 7 months ago
@TheIceman567 Fuckin' Yank only reason you won was because our soldiers accidently shot Jackson in the crossfire
Mr18yearoldvirgin 7 months ago 2
@Mr18yearoldvirgin lol. pissed are we? I think it was more then that. But hey if you people in the south were not backwards bumkin sister fucking hicks you may know what winning a war is like.
TheIceman567 7 months ago
@TheIceman567 those backwards bumkin sister fucking hicks killed 360,000 yanks
the union only managed 260,000 and the only reason we lost was because we ran out of bullets before we ran out of yanks
PS: lincoln was a tyrant and im glad he suffered for a week before he died. i can sleep easy knowing he died a tyrants death
TwistedComplex 7 months ago
@TwistedComplex Yeah you're right but the save the best for last those backwards bumkin sister fucking hicks never walked a way with a nation Ouch Bro! And great shit to see the once great General Lee surrender the the great General and one of our great Presidents Grant. Great to have you here my fellow American :o)
TheIceman567 7 months ago
@TheIceman567 yep and im glad a confederate put a bullet in the back of lincolns head
i wish i could have seen his face after the north kept spouted on about how "the war will only last a few months"
lee was a better general than hrant could ever dream of. evidenced by the fact that we kill damn near double the yanks killed
but im glad your happy with america as it is today; an oppressive empire that bombs brown children as a past time and stomps on your rights every day
USA USA USA!!!
TwistedComplex 7 months ago
@TwistedComplex Fuckin' A Bro. If you're happy then I'm happy. I'm glad you agree to Keep Presidents Lincoln and Granon the 5 and 50 Dollars. Well again i dis-agree if Lee was so good he wouldn't have surrender to the greater man on the battle field General Grant.
TheIceman567 7 months ago
@TheIceman567 yeah, enjoy the waning years of this empire
the day this country finally staggers and dies like the lumbering beast it is will be the day that people can experience true freedom
till then, enjoy your phones being tapped while police brutality is rampant, a continuously spiraling economy, raising gas prices, raising obesity rates, cancer rates, homelessness
no wonder the south won almost every battle. this country is full of pigs and rats. just too bad they outnumbered the CSA
TwistedComplex 7 months ago
@TwistedComplex Oh i shall. You can keep crying about your lost. It's still great almost every battle? But not Gettysburg ouch the big on and General Sherman's march . And yet the Best for last April 9, 1865 Lee's surrender. Ouch so close but yet so far.
TheIceman567 7 months ago
@TheIceman567 It is unfortunate that it appears you know not of the quality of mercy.The Confederates with guts and glory in their heart were still without shoes.The surrender was without malice as neither man saught to lesson our belief in each other.The conversation at the surrender almost was of another day.It was both the great care and the care for each oither that that table knew on that fatefull day in April 1865.Worthy of mention is the surrender of Thomas Moseby
Uncle65788 6 months ago
The United States was and is a tyranny, governed by a few politicians in D.C. with their own interests at heart and complete disregard for the will of the people or the states. The federal government did not form the states. We the people formed the federal government. Therefore, the states are sovereign and the union is a VOLUNTARY alliance that should be dissolved if that be the wish of the people. The Southern states got screwed and simply wished to free themselves of this oppresive tyranny.
ntheo93 7 months ago 28
@ntheo93 Flesh and Bone is not the answer on this very day.The South possessed much in the name of a foreign power even genteel manhood.That is the South was unduly under the influence of not merely a foreign power but a influence that was decidedly European. These interests can be said to be Brazilian,Portugese,Italian,Dutch,English and perhaps even French.This in what underwrote the place that slavery had in as it were the new world.
Uncle65788 7 months ago
@Uncle65788 The Dutch are perhaps the first notable instance whereby Raw Goods in the form of spices and the such were invested in-it was overseas trading that seemingly underwrote the earlier period of commodities investing.Hamilton went almost out of his way to seat as it were the concept of both trade and commerce here in the new world.The very Origins of what today is the NYSE came directly from his efforts.Which as well were influenced by Great Britain and there stock exchange
Uncle65788 7 months ago
@Uncle65788 The American Revolution needed to raise Bonds in order to as it were underwrite the colonial army.Though much more as it was civil the actually revolution required funding.There were differences to come however money or its equal in value was established at this point in time
Uncle65788 7 months ago
@ntheo93, nothing in the constitution says anything that a state has the right to cecede from the Union. What the Southern States did was illegal. What they were doing is trying to tear this country apart.
expertstrategy 7 months ago
@expertstrategy No, but it does state that anything not directly specified under the constitution is strictly reserved for the states to decide. The northern-dominated federal government was overreaching its own constitutional power to further its agenda and force ridiculously high taxes on Southern farmers to benefit Northern industries. True, the wealth of the South depended on slavery. But the wealth of the North depended on the South. The entire world was built on slavery, like it or not.
ntheo93 7 months ago 30
@ntheo93 It was not.The wealth of the North did not depend on the South.things are reversed.If that had been true then the south had the North right where they wanted them.The words of perpetual are used in the federalist papers and the like plus it was a European Man who ruled the culture of the slave trade.Born of both Dutch and English and Negro Rulers slavery stained this world perhaps of ours.It was that that was what there was an attempt to preserve.
Uncle65788 6 months ago
@ntheo93
If the wealth of the North depended on the South, why is it that the Northern economy only grew over the course of the Civil War? Additionally, your statement that "the entire world was built on slavery" is something of a moot point, as the world was built on thousands of antiquated, barbaric practices that were done away with as society progressed. Slavery, specifically, was abolished in just about every civilized country save for the US at the time of the Civil War.
TaiidanSoldier 6 months ago
@ntheo93
The whole world was not built on slavery lol. The industrial revolution was not done by chattel slaves. The largest period of economic growth in the US was post slavery 1880s-1920s.
AnglosphereAlliance 5 months ago
@AnglosphereAlliance The industrial revolution was long over in the 1880s. Workers during it were kept under extremely poor conditions. Children were forced to work often risking their lives. Sure, people got paid, but they were hardly equal.
Edohiguma 5 months ago
@Edohiguma
I am not for equality. Economic, political, and social equality is a fantasy. There were numerous "industrial revolutions" as new large productivity increases happened during various points. The Industrial Revolution largely ended in the West in the 1990s if you looked at the timeline. People went to work in those conditions because it was better than farm life and paid more. Life is not a bowl of cherries and there are no entitlements to anything. Only tech makes life easier
AnglosphereAlliance 5 months ago
@AnglosphereAlliance Plus, when you look into Europe during the industrial revolution, you will find plenty of monarches that had no parliaments. Eventually these monarches allowed parliaments, but voting was usually restricted to a small group of people, commonly based on money and power. Okay, I wouldn't call it "slavery", but it was hardly a free society of equal citizens.
Edohiguma 5 months ago
@ntheo93 Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the slaves wanted to free themselves from tyranny as well.
Fishsticks187 6 months ago
@ntheo93 excuse me: ekhm... WAS?!
Anarchizer 6 months ago
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EL1TEsniper21 5 months ago
@ntheo93 Stfu you cant own slaves get over yourself no one cares what your pussy secessionist ass thinks. The Union for ever all 50 will fall or rise together
cwood4ever 3 months ago
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ntheo93 7 months ago
It is my hope that I can use this footage to show my own personal Nationalisim and Love of my Country. My hope is that I may get permission from the makers of this great film.
joeyannetta 7 months ago
In a way all criticisim in the world is true of our country. But in seeking what unites us is a common cause. In the days of the civil War the greater cause won. Not for nationalisim, or anyones personal gain. That seed which has been planted in our hearts still remains and will always be the the USA. No matter what way you slice it up, bomb it, put it down it has always rose above all it's adversity and trouble. A the good will always cherish it's freedom and liberty as a gift from God himself.
joeyannetta 7 months ago
exactly, why should we care about what generations past did for us? they only fought and died to give us what we have today, but now that we have stupid precious fucking iPhones with 6 billion apps and most people only use 5, myspace, twitter, facebook, youtube and one other choice, our "idols" are changing every season, and we are so interested in what that fat bitch Snookie is up to every week. George Carlin said it best that "this country is full of nitwits and assholes... and no one cares"
MrFloppy19 8 months ago
@MrFloppy19 Speaking in generalities does not equal absolutes, I dont care about any of that stuff, I dont even like George Carlin he criticized a lot but I never saw him intending to do anything about it.
XXGDUBSXX 7 months ago
@Sibs1990 I couldn't agree more!
RevBillyRayCollins 8 months ago
campaigner111..."AMEN" to that brother.
armadillosignshop 8 months ago
"The more we study the less blame we have to put on the USA for the slave trade with Black Africa-it was pioneered by Africa,its economic mechanism was invented by the italians and portugese,it was run by western european interests and perhaps most importantly it was conducted with the full cooperation of many african kings.
Uncle65788 8 months ago
@Uncle65788 Spreading blame does not divert blame lol.. But nice try lmao
BabylonWhore666 7 months ago
@BabylonWhore666 I don't mind that dear.It is very almost unsettling to read carefully how real the struggle was while yet we were to be born.It was then that these seeds were sown, for this scaring required the bloodletting that was to come.It is a terrible world with an almost unceasing struggle that promises more blood and more blood shedding.Is there other than merely more bloodshedding?
Uncle65788 7 months ago
@Uncle65788 Sorry, were you making a point or something there. I seemed to have lost it in the waffle.
BabylonWhore666 7 months ago
@BabylonWhore666 thus far there has not been any field of combat whereby forces represented by the United States have eclipsed 605,000 dead.The sacrifice of some 605,000 Confederate as well as Union soldiers has as thus been unequaled.The question to you would be is there an answer other than more of the same to look forward to-?
Uncle65788 7 months ago
@Uncle65788 You really do speak a load of shit. Do you notice people making excuses and shuffling away when you start talking to them? I would imagine not.
BabylonWhore666 7 months ago
@BabylonWhore666 I hear you are prophetic ? Anymore than a coincidence?
Uncle65788 7 months ago
@Uncle65788 Yes, I prophesise you are full of shit.
BabylonWhore666 7 months ago
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Uncle65788 7 months ago
This video, more than any other that I have seen, embodies the Civil War from the perspective of the fighting man. Do you think that these men fought under THESE flags because of anything other than a sense of preserving their homes?
331RBD 8 months ago
It is mentioned mostly as perhaps a coincidence but one that is interesting.The latter part of The Revolutionary War was fought as it was in the South.Iam not contending exclusively however many important and even dramatic battles between British and Colonial interests did indeed happen to take place in the South.
Uncle65788 8 months ago
Good old General George Washington stated in Oct.1775 "that neither negroes,boys unable to bear arms,nor old men unfit to endure the fatigues of the campaign are to be enlisted"The greater time period may very well be the Revolutionary War as both sides are terribly ugly though it seems I might really rather be English.They did not believe in Slavery and Freed Slaves actually fought against Continental Army.there is a story of a mutiliated black regiment when defeated by colonists as a revenge
Uncle65788 8 months ago
@Uncle65788
Lets see the British Empire was the one who transported the african slaves here in the first place, it was the British empire who after dumping african slavery decided to colonized the vast majority of Africa. Why need slaves when you have subjects? Plus Africa itself was infested with homegrown slavery. The kingdom of Congo made the vast majority of their wealth by selling slaves. In fact slavery was the world wide norm until the 19th and 20th century.
kepler1000 8 months ago
@kepler1000 Portugal was the first having established a virtual monopoly on the African Slave Trade until the mid 1650s,when Holland became a major competitor.In the period 1700-1800 Britain became the leading importer of Slaves to the Americas.In 1807 Britain outlawed the slave trade.The slave trade was abolished by Britain in 1812 and subsequently by all other European countries.Portugal and France continued to import slaves though as contract laborers
Uncle65788 8 months ago
@Uncle65788 the first Black African Slaves brought to America were brought to America by the Dutch.
Uncle65788 8 months ago
what song is this?
fortisKID 8 months ago
@fortisKID Going Home by Mary Fahl.
dottore1234 8 months ago
@fortisKID mary fahl going home
jock1454789 8 months ago
I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."
Abraham Lincoln, March 4, 1861, From His First Inaugural Address
cmjbpo93 8 months ago
A solemn note is sounded here that Great Britain freed slaves in its fight with the Continental Army during the American Revolution.It is a verifiable dilemma that Great Britain did not believe in slavery and during our revolutionary war with them, Great Britain that is The interests of the crown were upheld by freed slaves.
Uncle65788 8 months ago
@Uncle65788 I have a feeling that the Crown used the prospect of slave uprisings, in prospect of freedom, as a means to an end only. The British new that "freeing" slaves would further weaken the already strained continental army. I doubt very seriously the British crown cared much for Southern freed slaves or the the right of freedom for slaves in general.
dottore1234 8 months ago
@dottore1234 Both North as well as South which was not any different during the Revolutionary War.the respected sides did most certainly fear that the arming of the negro would lead to resurrection and iminent peril for slave holders alike.As I said both sides are held culpable
Uncle65788 8 months ago
War was over State's Rights. Not Slavery.
CSA.
Virginia180 8 months ago
I know this sentiment has been echoed here on more than one occassion however it would certainly be a good day if in fact the third part could be brought forth so that the trilogy have a chance to come full circle.This song,"Gods and Generals", "Gettysburg" are some of the best perhaps even on the silver screen.This seems to encompass more than its particular place in time it seems to mean more though we are not the same as a result.A significant chapter in history was written with Civil War
Uncle65788 8 months ago
God bless the south and all the men who died for it. You will never be forgotten.
Dawgs241 9 months ago 3
First mistake in the first frame. Robert E. Lee didn't have a beard before he resigned, and his moustache wasn't whitish gray either.
zsqpwxxeh 9 months ago
@PSTripler so your called African Americans scum I don't know if you knew this that some of the freed slaves felt the same way as the confederate solders did about the north invading there were quite a few black regiments in the confederate army. the south fought for what they believed in so how bout you get your lame ass off here.
SgtGrant23 9 months ago
@SgtGrant23 Name 1-I know there were never any casualties as a result of mortal combat but there were man servants,orderlies and the like but none,no not a single negro gave his life for the confederate cause.This hysterical nonsence has been bandied about in very cavalier fashion perhaps you should temper such thinking with a resolve to know before you say these very unsubstantial and unsubstantiated claims.There were next to nothing resembling anything as quite a few black regiments the CSA
Uncle65788 8 months ago
Glad you are someone who can positively state that there were no negro Confederate Soldiers who fought for the South. However, Jason Boone was a negro freeman who left his farm (which he owned) to join the 41st Va. Inf. Since I was not there as you were I can only tell you that he served until the end of the war and received a pension for his Confederate service from the State of Virginia. He has a CS stone over his grave and his 98 year old grandaughter has the CS battle flag that draped it.
riflepit1 8 months ago 2
@riflepit1 Laborers,orderlies,man servants,cooks,drummers, however it was upon reading testimony sworn to before a representative legal body whereby Nathan Bedford Forest said that he had blacks in his corps.It was not entirely clear what purpose such representation provided however it was clear enough that Blacks as such were not absent from the battlefield as some qualifying positions would state that the negro served in the confederate army.
Uncle65788 8 months ago
@Uncle65788 Because the idea of a negro corp serving in the Civil War on the side of the confederacy would destroy the idea that the Civil War was about the liberation of enslaved blacks in the South. We can't have that, can we?
dottore1234 8 months ago
@dottore1234 Apparently neither could the confederacy
Uncle65788 8 months ago
@dottore1234 that is not true both North and South are hereby held culpable.It is most interesting to discover that 1/5th of the total population was enslaved as of 1776.It accounted for some 500.000 negroes.It is further estimated that there were some 5,000 African Americans that served in the Continental Army whereby there were more than 20,000 African Americans that fought for the British.
Uncle65788 8 months ago
You Sir are Wrong! God Bless America and Sic Semper Tyrannis!!!
TheHighflight769 9 months ago
There is so much lack of awe and scope for what both sides did to each other, and endured for their beliefs, the sheer hardships. And zero appreciation by narcissistic coffee house arm chair politicians of today.
TheLongTimeObserver 9 months ago
its a pity that we Americans wont stand up for whats right anymore, Im a southerner Im always gonna side with Johnny Reb, but I dont wish bad things or have ill will towards yankees of today, we have no morals we have no standards, we are lazy, shiftless, Fat and sassy. we wont stad up to our corrupt govt, we wont stand up for little children being sexually groped just to get on a damn airplane,Im not sure how much further this country ha sto sink, before ppl start giving a damn,again
BorderCityBandit 9 months ago
The Union forever!
markmason1000 9 months ago
This is truly a beautiful movie. No other movie has ever been made on the South's Secod War of Independence that better depicted why the men in Blue and Gray fought. Both sides fought for nationalism. The Yanks for American nationalism, the Rebs for Southern nationalism. It being 2011, we should respect and honor those who fought on both sides. They were all Americans.
Sistarovat 9 months ago
Sorry, can anyone tell me what is the flag at 2:44? I know its most likely a confederate regimental flag, but can someone identify the regiment, or at least the state it was from?
Silkrat 9 months ago
I thought the single star meant Texas.
Azartusfar 9 months ago
@Silkrat Magnolia Flag of Mississippi
GWBushmaster 9 months ago
@GWBushmaster
Thanks, been wondering for ages and nobody else knew. :)
Silkrat 9 months ago
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jimmyb227 9 months ago
@campaigner111 agreed boss i aint that smart but i know that Lawrence Chaimberlan did not risk death about 7 times to have this crap happen RIP civil war victims
bwildcatboy 9 months ago
which song is this?
xingfenzhen 9 months ago
I have always wondered if our country today will once again break out into another civil war. The economy has put several Americans into poverty. A revolt in Egypt and Libya has created a civil war. Is America next. Personally we should be proud of our country can take care of each other or our country might be in a modern day civil war. Citizens vs. United States Government. Who controls the United States Army: The U.S. Government. After all we are called the United States.
stevenekhawley 10 months ago
Film should of had a different directors and writers
Proudnewfoundlander1 10 months ago
How I love what America used to be. It took me quite a while to realize that it's nothing like it any more, and that it seems beyond hope of restoration due to the moral and cultural decline.
ErikNorseman 10 months ago
@ErikNorseman We've declined in some ways, and we've progressed in others. The abolition of slavery, the civil rights movement, the labor movement, etc have benefited America. However, individualism, extreme liberality, and the loss of a communitarian ethos has damaged the country greatly. We'll have to hit our rock bottom before we start learning how central these issues are.
PhiloAmericana 9 months ago
I quit ACW reenacting because of two things: FARB and ideology. Let sleeping dogs lie. The conflict ended the way it did for good or ill. Personally I would say good AND ill.
Shatnerpossum 10 months ago
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@campaigner111 "Ironically, I think that the character and courage of those men is something that is just not found today in America, and I see a total lack of appreciation for what generations past did for us."
This is valid for all western countries. Egoïsm rules
Florian30000 10 months ago
I'm pure new england the south deserved what they got. Sherman should have kept on burning.
bren12688 10 months ago
@bren12688 Well thats not very nice, I dont see why the south didi the wrong thing here, they stood up for something they believed in, sort of like what America did as a hole in the revolution, the south tried to preserve our system of govt which is a cooperation between states and fed power but the north wanted to cut down on that state power, going against our const. The north looted towns, burned farms, and even killed some innocent civilians, if thats the kind of thing you like then I guess
RevBillyRayCollins 10 months ago
@bren12688 Sherman should have kept on burning, but to me and other normal people thats called murder. The north should have been punished for War Crimes and crimes against humanity, not to mention Lincoln waged war with The CSA without a declaration of war from Congress. You really arent American if you wish ill feelings against your fellow American.
RevBillyRayCollins 10 months ago
What I find amazing is that they were fighting, and I mean both sides, were fighting to prevent exactly what our country has become!!! I don't think they ever envisioned a country where class differences would deepen, where greed and superficiality would be more important than character and honesty. I will never forget these men, and I am saddened that what they fought for has been largely abandoned and forgotten by the people of this country.
campaigner111 11 months ago 39
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Not by people in the South.
darthroden 9 months ago