If applied right, I agree, its a very solid shot. In Wado we have something like this (Junzuki no Tsukkomi) where you lead from a natural stance that disguises the intent. All I know is that this Junzuki can move my 200lb Wavemaster. No other punch can as much. Think of what it would do if it connects with someone's chin.
Let me assure you that this punch - which I refer to as 'flying punch' - is very strong. It covers a great deal of distance very quickly & the idea is to hit with all you body weight. It also is great to follow-up with another tsuki waza, a sweep, a head butt, a throw or what ever comes naturally.
He's just showing the punch itself in a bubble, not the setup, not the followup. It's a very effective technique, it's just not pretty enough for all the kata/kihon bunnies.
that is not gyaku tsuki - tis okuri tsuki which is a punch delivered whilst in transit - tis neither gyaku tsuki or oi tsuki - literally somewhere in the middle.
I like these techniques... but it really has to be this mindless way??
I mean, they are teaching how to strike one time, and deliver death... but what if you are not so great, and your opponent will strike back with some efective pounches?
@dobermannbrother exactly what i was getting at ....you were the one trying to say his technique might not be fail proof and the point I was trying to make to you is that there is no technique nor anything that is fail proof.. It is indeed the point of all practice...to prepare in readiness for what may come but there is no technique nor art that can eliminate the "what if's" nor guarantee a positive outcome...you become the art and the art becomes a part of you.....the what if's are inspiration
@dobermannbrother I agree with you. I really don'y know what he's demonstrating here but that's not the gyakuzuki i know. It might work on a person that does not have any training in martial arts but if he does that with another guy that had training then all hell do is to leave himselfg opened.
If anyone can tell me please what is the situation that he's demonstrating the gyaku for??
It’s called nagashi-tsuki. Sort of “punch-and-move”, instead of an oi-tsuki that's “move-and-punch”. It’s a really fast technique and done the right way it's incredibly strong. Osensei2987 said it's not for self-defense, but i can't agree, it's a vicious surprise technique that can be used as a setup for another technique or combination, or as a clean counter. It knocks you out better than a hook. It's just as much self-defense technique as any other, and it's certainly not just for sports.
@PanicusVulgaris I respect your YT comments but don't know where you're coming from here. He shows that gyaku-tsuki doesn't have to come off the back foot, but can be delivered from the front, too. Yes, he blurrs the distinction from oi-tsuki, but can still follow up with a right hand. He has a light, quick style. Not everybody can be Enoeda or Shirai, but i can imagine Kagawa doing this. See him body up on the guy and take control of his space? That's committed technique.
@NixonSWK Tsu(ku) is a verb. It is pronounced more like ts-ku without the first u sound. In a noun form it is tsuki. It literally means to thrust, pierce, stab, or prick. The word punch is our loose translation of the idea, not the word. So, when you punch in karate, you tsuku. The polite form, which is more appropriate in a classroom, is tsukimasu (pron. ts – kee – mahs). When the word appears following another word, it changes form sometimes to Zuku.
I have trained under enoeda in UK in 1987 and also Kagawa at JKS. Also been to seminars with shirai, kanazawa, osaka, yahara. Yamaguchi is current and right up there. Lots of dynamic instructors coming up through JKS and JKA so the future of shotokan is good I think.
You could see the influence of asai sensei through yamaguchis relaxed whippy use of his joints and also from kagawa sensei through solid use of core muscles. I was impressed with yamaguchis humility and yes, he even had a sense of humour. He had a great way with the kids. Seriously, panicus, everyone entitled to own opinion but check out website of andre bertel or scott (jks former trainee instructor) and they talk about how good yamaguchi sensei is in the dojo and karateka and sensei.
lezmos-yamaguchi is a really good teacher. I trained at jks hq japan for 4 months and yamaguchi sensei would teach on tues and thurs nights. He didnt just teach but trained with the students in every single exercise, in 3 one hour classes. Thats after taking the midday instructors course.He would have us do extremely slow maigeris, mawashigeris and keage geris with an iron geta on the kicking leg. His balance and control of kicking leg was superb, while the rest of us were wobbling around.
well panicus, he was one of asai's top students-yamaguchi only won the all japan in both kata and kumite 5 years in a row in the 90's-teaching hip attack-ive been hit in stomach by him in kumite, thought I would die-he is fast with amazing kime. He is no 3 in succession at jks behind kagawa,& ishimine, trust me-he is very, very good. Combination of kagawa and asai.
you would wonder how many hours a week that guy trains.you can bet your ass no where near the hours put in by yamaguchi sensei.(and thats not inncluding teaching)
If applied right, I agree, its a very solid shot. In Wado we have something like this (Junzuki no Tsukkomi) where you lead from a natural stance that disguises the intent. All I know is that this Junzuki can move my 200lb Wavemaster. No other punch can as much. Think of what it would do if it connects with someone's chin.
majin2912 2 months ago
Let me assure you that this punch - which I refer to as 'flying punch' - is very strong. It covers a great deal of distance very quickly & the idea is to hit with all you body weight. It also is great to follow-up with another tsuki waza, a sweep, a head butt, a throw or what ever comes naturally.
BelloBudo007 2 months ago
He's just showing the punch itself in a bubble, not the setup, not the followup. It's a very effective technique, it's just not pretty enough for all the kata/kihon bunnies.
maofas 9 months ago
technically speaking that is Okuri Tsuki - not gyaku Tsuki - nice though!
fujicolt 11 months ago
that is not gyaku tsuki - tis okuri tsuki which is a punch delivered whilst in transit - tis neither gyaku tsuki or oi tsuki - literally somewhere in the middle.
fujicolt 1 year ago
I like these techniques... but it really has to be this mindless way??
I mean, they are teaching how to strike one time, and deliver death... but what if you are not so great, and your opponent will strike back with some efective pounches?
dobermannbrother 1 year ago
@dobermannbrother what if what if....isn;t that life? what if a car hits you crossing the street...you should have looked...lol
232323C 11 months ago
@232323C Isn't Karate a way of life? You must be prepared for those "what if" situations.
dobermannbrother 11 months ago
@dobermannbrother exactly what i was getting at ....you were the one trying to say his technique might not be fail proof and the point I was trying to make to you is that there is no technique nor anything that is fail proof.. It is indeed the point of all practice...to prepare in readiness for what may come but there is no technique nor art that can eliminate the "what if's" nor guarantee a positive outcome...you become the art and the art becomes a part of you.....the what if's are inspiration
232323C 11 months ago
@dobermannbrother I agree with you. I really don'y know what he's demonstrating here but that's not the gyakuzuki i know. It might work on a person that does not have any training in martial arts but if he does that with another guy that had training then all hell do is to leave himselfg opened.
If anyone can tell me please what is the situation that he's demonstrating the gyaku for??
HWTyrael 9 months ago
@HWTyrael Looks like it's for points competition. Getting a quick score. Doesn't look like it's intended for self-defense.
osensei2987 8 months ago
It’s called nagashi-tsuki. Sort of “punch-and-move”, instead of an oi-tsuki that's “move-and-punch”. It’s a really fast technique and done the right way it's incredibly strong. Osensei2987 said it's not for self-defense, but i can't agree, it's a vicious surprise technique that can be used as a setup for another technique or combination, or as a clean counter. It knocks you out better than a hook. It's just as much self-defense technique as any other, and it's certainly not just for sports.
snyggdorte 4 months ago
At first I wasn't sure what he was doing, then I recalled the Book of Five Rings and though he was going in for a body slam. Am I close?
MrNickjannini 1 year ago
@PanicusVulgaris I respect your YT comments but don't know where you're coming from here. He shows that gyaku-tsuki doesn't have to come off the back foot, but can be delivered from the front, too. Yes, he blurrs the distinction from oi-tsuki, but can still follow up with a right hand. He has a light, quick style. Not everybody can be Enoeda or Shirai, but i can imagine Kagawa doing this. See him body up on the guy and take control of his space? That's committed technique.
ptboyindenver 1 year ago
"wahp! wahp! bOOM!! PSH!! CLANK!!!!"
ShuyuKoukin 1 year ago
its called gyaku tsuki lol not zuki rofl
NixonSWK 1 year ago
@NixonSWK Tsu(ku) is a verb. It is pronounced more like ts-ku without the first u sound. In a noun form it is tsuki. It literally means to thrust, pierce, stab, or prick. The word punch is our loose translation of the idea, not the word. So, when you punch in karate, you tsuku. The polite form, which is more appropriate in a classroom, is tsukimasu (pron. ts – kee – mahs). When the word appears following another word, it changes form sometimes to Zuku.
laohung 1 year ago
I have trained under enoeda in UK in 1987 and also Kagawa at JKS. Also been to seminars with shirai, kanazawa, osaka, yahara. Yamaguchi is current and right up there. Lots of dynamic instructors coming up through JKS and JKA so the future of shotokan is good I think.
MrMikeod 2 years ago
You could see the influence of asai sensei through yamaguchis relaxed whippy use of his joints and also from kagawa sensei through solid use of core muscles. I was impressed with yamaguchis humility and yes, he even had a sense of humour. He had a great way with the kids. Seriously, panicus, everyone entitled to own opinion but check out website of andre bertel or scott (jks former trainee instructor) and they talk about how good yamaguchi sensei is in the dojo and karateka and sensei.
MrMikeod 2 years ago
lezmos-yamaguchi is a really good teacher. I trained at jks hq japan for 4 months and yamaguchi sensei would teach on tues and thurs nights. He didnt just teach but trained with the students in every single exercise, in 3 one hour classes. Thats after taking the midday instructors course.He would have us do extremely slow maigeris, mawashigeris and keage geris with an iron geta on the kicking leg. His balance and control of kicking leg was superb, while the rest of us were wobbling around.
MrMikeod 2 years ago
well panicus, he was one of asai's top students-yamaguchi only won the all japan in both kata and kumite 5 years in a row in the 90's-teaching hip attack-ive been hit in stomach by him in kumite, thought I would die-he is fast with amazing kime. He is no 3 in succession at jks behind kagawa,& ishimine, trust me-he is very, very good. Combination of kagawa and asai.
MrMikeod 2 years ago
well said.
lezmos 2 years ago
you would wonder how many hours a week that guy trains.you can bet your ass no where near the hours put in by yamaguchi sensei.(and thats not inncluding teaching)
lezmos 2 years ago
i feel for sorry for u!
lezmos 2 years ago
i dont get it
pumpkinheadjrb 2 years ago
move in with your hip.arm is last
lezmos 2 years ago
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dont try with kimbo
stivstivo 3 years ago
Great Kumite lesson to win.
iamaloady 3 years ago
Não seria um Oitsuki?
DanielSamurai 3 years ago
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trekmogui 2 years ago