Having never played any of the modern warfare series, I would have NEVER bought this game if I knew the spawn system was like this. As a CS 1.6, TF2 and Quake player, I was absolutely utterly disappointed in MW3 and I was really excited when I bought it. The horrendously randomized spawn system is just game breaking to me. It has no regard for player positioning since your enemies can come from any direction, especially when you've already cleared the zone. It's just a sprint + backstab fest,
it's all about the flags, make sure you have a and b or b and c and the spawns wont fuck you up cause they will be very predictable like in demolition
Its been my biggest complaint about Black Ops, the stupid spawns, not just in domination but in every mode they spawn people right behind you or you behind other people.
haha whinging about dying one of a blackbird? i died 6 times off dogs in one game.. when i had my blackbird in the air.. simply because the knifing is so retarded that its almost impossible to get a kill without trying 5 times.. and then they run past you and knife you while ur freakin behind them..
yea, the spawning system is broken, personally i think people should come down in parachutes and control where they want to land, but anyway, I was playing on summit the other day and was on a 7 kill streak, then this guy comes round the corner, i shoot him first, he puts 2 bullets in me and im dead :/ totally robbed of my blackbird :(
I was playing on the Jungle map the other day, and you know the northern part of the map with the small village where everyone fights at? On the eastern side with all the sandbags, guess how many times the game spawned me there? Take a guess.
12. I got spawned there 12 fucking times in a row while the whole enemy team camped in that village.
Then getting killed as soon as you throw your care package, or when the whole team spawns right behind you on a big map like launch or array. WTF treyarch!
biggest problems in this game is spawns, knifing system huge lunges and you should not be able to knife someone if your getting shot. the other thing would be ghosts/second chance. if they could put second chance ghost in same tier and bring stopping power back and put it in same tier aswell. this game would be fine
terrible terrible game. spawns are only 1 of the many problems. for a 1st person shooter the guns look terrible, sounds terrible and are terrible. resolution is beyond terrible and its as glitchy as fuck. why do treyarch think they r aloud to rip so many people off. there should be laws against this sort of shit. Finish the FUCKING GAME B4 U RELEASE IT TREYARCH U DUMBFUCKs
I believe when playing domination there are set places where you spawn depending on which and where your flags are captured or something for example if you are only in capture of flag C only, you will respawn near to Flag C. maybe that has something to do with it
Black ops spawning sucks specialy havana and there so much spawn traping playing Demolition or Domination. iv got a video i need to put on youtube that has me & my team geting campt in one spawn point in a smal room in Kowloon
Hi WhaleMasher. I was looking for a way to predict spawns in BO, but this is even better. I never thought of going into theater mode and just flying around while watching spawns, and i haven't seen anyone else do it either.
The spawns are terrible across the board from what I have seen. I play a lot of TDM and oftentimes get spawned right in the middle of an area where both teams are engaged and die nearly instantly. Your player should not be spawned in a situation where you take two steps and die, unless it was due to some type of ordinance dropped from above and you just happened to spawn in it's path.
To me, this is the downside to ending the spawn trapping that ruined most games in MW2. You can't have it both ways. If your team mates run into the enemy spawn and you are still protecting yours, then the game will move their spawn and you will get blindsided.
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How would you compare BlackOps with MW2? I only had the opportunity to play the MW2 demo last year, but I did have a lot of fun with it and have been considering purchasing this game. How would you compare and contrast the multiplayer experiences, would you say it's worth the 50 bucks, and what differences would a new player want to watch out for? Thanks!
Oh yea, let's play like we did when Medal of Honor first came out... my team on the left, your team on the right, let's go. The moment I realized enemies could spawn behind me, I'd adapt, period. For example, in your first death, you naively believed spawning should be happening according to your "logic" so you walked out of the building, blinder than a rhino. Whenever you leave cover, or exit a bldg, you always quick look left/right... you just walked out facing forward... hello?
The only way you can get a good game is if you don't die from shit spawns or if the other team is severely bad. There is no skill involved in this game.. if you think there is and you can get a good game, well you are probably camping on one advantageous spot in the map where you can reach both major spawns. Not much skill involved in that imo.
I agree 100% with you. This game is absolutely awful. I wasted hard earned money on a game with: HORRIBLE Graphics Over-sized Maps Not Enough Zombie Maps Retarded Spawning HORRIBLE Audio No Co-Op Cheap Perks A trillion bugs And shitty servers It took 300 steps back from MW2.
Yes, They may be spawning behind and you may be spawning near them, but take into consideration and look at which flags each team controls there is your answer it is kind of expected.
They have yet to fix this issue. I love this game but flaws like this make it very irritating for me. If it weren't for all the hacked lobbies in MW2 I would be back playing that game. Black Ops has so much potential to be the best COD ever but flaws like these seem to be holding the game back. Like a suped-up bad ass muscle car but all four wheels are on donut tires.
Treyarch took the fun out of playing mw. I snapped my disc after a month Your vid was just one of many problems with the game. Im not a quick scope guy buy why bother having sniper rifles when it is near impossible to use them . That goes for a lot of the other weapons to. Treyarch needs to go back to the drawingboard. My opinion...............THE GAME SUCKS!!!!!!!!
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Now... Am I trippin or does the other team own the capture points that you're complaining about from where they spawn. Cuz I'm pretty sure that's how DOM works. You own A or B you spawn near those cap points and your video is showing that your team doesn't own the cap points where the enemies are spawning from.
You have clearly pointed out what I knew was wrong but didn't take the time to prove. Thanks for posting this. You are totally right. Honestly, I'm not playing the game very much because of these spawning issues. Taking control of a map with great teamwork is what makes these games fun. Hope they fix this stuff soon.
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The bad spawn system is one of reasons I couldn't stand to play Black Ops anymore. You didn't address it in this video, but too many times have I been spawned and a guy is right behind me to knife me at that exact moment. I've even spawned in the enemies plain sight so they can line up a shot on me before I get my bearings right.
Make only two spawn points. One for each team on either side of the map. Make both spawn points INDOORS so we don't get killed by a Cobra or Napalm Strike right after we spawn. Make both buildings window-free. And finally, put two undamagable turrets next to the exit of the spawn point to prevent enemies from trying to spawn kill your team. Ta-da!
I'm sure Treyarch did this spawn system on purpose to keep the game more fluid and moving instead of having each team spawn at each end of the map each time, to be honest that kinda sounds boring to me, having teams have to run to the middle of the map each time to to clash with the other team. Amirite?
@PaulWallBbyPplChampz Yeah they did it to create a spawn and dominate. So lets say you spawn you'll kill em...and then they'll spawn behind to dominate you and it will go on and on.
Fuckin' A man! I kept thinking the same thing while playing, but here you are with well displayed legitimate facts to make your point. And I never heard you threaten to rape anyone!
8:06 "it's aboot dominating. it's aboot being able to control the situation that you're playing. it's not aboot having guys sneak up behind you" *Poot* AAAIHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This is a GREAT video about all the screw ups in spawning. one of the reasons I only play hardcore - because everyone is much more cautious and there's less running around fragging with horrible spawns.
Good video. Nuke Town is really bad at it. In TDM you'll re-spawn leave your side think its all good and bam the enemy just re-spawned from the same spot and i'm knifed in the back. i hate those dam back stabbers. lol
Spawn system is seriously a f*cking joke in this game, i cant remember name of the map, but its night, some japanese dudes and americans of course. There is this one house, if you spawn in there, run out from the house someone might spawn there and shoot you instantly. Its a joke... this all happens in most of the game modes, Demolition works like it should, its perfect what i have played...
But seriously check out the night/japanese map on TDM... i always leave claymore there no protect :P
Players spawn in the zones that they control the flags of. I didn't watch the whole video, but until the half way point, all of those back spawns could and should have been anticipated if only people knew how the game works.
Basically, learn to play and stop whining.
I'm not saying the spawn system is perfect, it's not, but it works logically 95% of the time.
@methal666 you Replied to this Post Patch dummy. This is one of the videos that made them address the spawns and make them Logical. You don't understand game Dynamics so don't try to come off as you do.
@xCeltics2011x MW2 was 10x Worse and you know it, Treyarch will fix spawns, footsteps, ghost, And the knife range, Oh but whats that? Commando and the UMP haven't been patched? How about one man army? Wasn't that supposed to be patched like 3 months ago? BWAHAHAHAHAH, Were the guns balanced out? No? Were they ever balanced? No. LMFAO MW2 FAILED, The spawns in that game sucked too, And they NEVER fixed it, Maybe it wasn't as bad but you know it WAS bad.
That good spawns being flagged as bad spawns makes a ton of sense. always when i play on summit it seems everyone spawns on one side and the whole match becomes a ridiculous spawn war. and the rest of the map is forgotten :(
domination is really the only game type that is messed up, tdm is really random but that is good because it reduces coordinated camping and keeps your head on a swivel
they need to change spawn points because it's ridiculous as much as the horrible spawning is. they spawn us in random corridors on launch... it's so random and horrid...
I used to dismiss a lot of the "poor spawning" videos, especially on Summit but watching this, you made a good job demonstrating clearly the fault. Hopefully they can fix this asap.
this is why i play demolition, you can actually feel safe that u wont get killed from behind coz of gay spawns, if u get killed from behind u always know oh thats cool he flanked me
Great video! Points out what's wrong with the game. In all honesty I must say that Treyarch sucks! World at War was the same bullyhit. Mapdesign is so much worst than Infinity Wards!
I got the Playstation Version which is no better at all concerning spawns.
Gonna go back to MW2 for the next year and wait for Infinity Ward to release the next CoD.
As much as I do prefer the IW map design and spawning system (MW 1 and 2 best Black Ops in that arena), you'll be holding your breath a long time for the same developers to bring another experience on par with MW.
Given that most of the top dogs of IW are gone. Activision is using the company's dessicated corpse in hopes of selling MW3, which is no doubt going to be disappointing. Unless, by some miracle, it isn't.
It's a godsend that they're addressing this. Really, no person should have to be potentially robbed of a Care Package even though they affirmed a clear spot.
Aesome vid! But the spawn system is bad in all game types. For the same reason, you clear an area and someone spawns right there doesn't allow good team play. Especially when half the map isn't being used.
Great video, I've been complaining about this now over the past few days.
I play mostly on the PC and whilst the gameplay is generally slower its more tactical however with this utterly fucked spawn system it just feels like a free for all and as most servers are Hardcore with Friendly Fire on you end up shooting everyone because you can never trust that someones not spawned behind you.
Brilliant video you should post it on B-Ops forums (If they have one)
Awesome vid dude. Its guys like you that improve gaming communities rather than kids that just complain all day without doing anything constructive as you have done here.
God, these spawns take so much of the strategy, tactics, and positioning out of the game. I mean, sure, CoD ain't that tactical, but it could still pretend like it is, so that hardcore kids could get some thinking out of their games.
this makes me so fucking mad at the game. like this occasionally happens to me but damn man, this match was just awful. i'm glad they are going to fix it and they are fixing so much right now. i love treyarch, but all of this woulda been solved if they just had a beta lol. BTW man i subscribed to your channel. i can tell you have some great vids, i'm looking forward to some more man keep it up!
New update from JD_2020: · Improvements to the spawn system to resolve an issue where negative spawn influencers from specific game events were not always being deleted after the danger had cleared – in some matches, this was causing good spawns to be erroneously flagged by the game as bad spawns, which in turn forced actual bad spawns to get selected later in the match.
@WhaleMasher hey great video and commentary. funny and informative. it'd be great if you could send this video to treyarch because it illustrates visually so perfectly what the issue is, especially when the only other feedback on spawning is people on forums endlessing ranting about treyarch being a faceless, orphan consuming corporation. plus it explains why domination has felt like a fucking bunfight
man i wish you could sell back the iteams youve bought that would be awsome and i wish you could quick scope and black ops is a bit werid like un fair i find
Great vid. Spawns are a bit crazy, I've ran into a room, cleared it and as I turned my back a guy spawned and knifed me, then I spawned where he did and got to shoot him again before an airstrike hit me when I went outside. I'd rather have secure spawn areas than an opportunity for a revenge kill.
This is why DICE should help Treyarch and Infinity ward produce games... their spawn system is perfect... u spawn at ur team... u dont have to worry about some douchebag spawning in ur ass and forth....
Having never played any of the modern warfare series, I would have NEVER bought this game if I knew the spawn system was like this. As a CS 1.6, TF2 and Quake player, I was absolutely utterly disappointed in MW3 and I was really excited when I bought it. The horrendously randomized spawn system is just game breaking to me. It has no regard for player positioning since your enemies can come from any direction, especially when you've already cleared the zone. It's just a sprint + backstab fest,
woodyfly 2 months ago
it's all about the flags, make sure you have a and b or b and c and the spawns wont fuck you up cause they will be very predictable like in demolition
africerane 4 months ago
Its been my biggest complaint about Black Ops, the stupid spawns, not just in domination but in every mode they spawn people right behind you or you behind other people.
millakilla 5 months ago
haha whinging about dying one of a blackbird? i died 6 times off dogs in one game.. when i had my blackbird in the air.. simply because the knifing is so retarded that its almost impossible to get a kill without trying 5 times.. and then they run past you and knife you while ur freakin behind them..
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yea, the spawning system is broken, personally i think people should come down in parachutes and control where they want to land, but anyway, I was playing on summit the other day and was on a 7 kill streak, then this guy comes round the corner, i shoot him first, he puts 2 bullets in me and im dead :/ totally robbed of my blackbird :(
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PeterHatYai2008 7 months ago
I was playing on the Jungle map the other day, and you know the northern part of the map with the small village where everyone fights at? On the eastern side with all the sandbags, guess how many times the game spawned me there? Take a guess.
12. I got spawned there 12 fucking times in a row while the whole enemy team camped in that village.
snipermansam 8 months ago
@snipermansam Playing Demolition? Maybe that is why.
NerdxRook 7 months ago
great video man
x120daysofsodom 9 months ago
Spawning fucking sucks so bad nothin worse
Then getting killed as soon as you throw your care package, or when the whole team spawns right behind you on a big map like launch or array. WTF treyarch!
RVH253 9 months ago
I still have nightmares from nuketown's spawns.
mw2proisme 9 months ago
biggest problems in this game is spawns, knifing system huge lunges and you should not be able to knife someone if your getting shot. the other thing would be ghosts/second chance. if they could put second chance ghost in same tier and bring stopping power back and put it in same tier aswell. this game would be fine
Fsxlovely 9 months ago
terrible terrible game. spawns are only 1 of the many problems. for a 1st person shooter the guns look terrible, sounds terrible and are terrible. resolution is beyond terrible and its as glitchy as fuck. why do treyarch think they r aloud to rip so many people off. there should be laws against this sort of shit. Finish the FUCKING GAME B4 U RELEASE IT TREYARCH U DUMBFUCKs
jason23189 10 months ago
I believe when playing domination there are set places where you spawn depending on which and where your flags are captured or something for example if you are only in capture of flag C only, you will respawn near to Flag C. maybe that has something to do with it
wedgehedge444 11 months ago
The worst thing about Call of Duty: Black Ops is Call of Duty: Black Ops.
Composure248 11 months ago
Black ops spawning sucks specialy havana and there so much spawn traping playing Demolition or Domination. iv got a video i need to put on youtube that has me & my team geting campt in one spawn point in a smal room in Kowloon
Vote1Jimmy 11 months ago
Did you see which flags they had that means where majority of the team spawns is near where the team mates are
Wiinikhil 11 months ago
this entertained me, thumbs up for you.
mayson12451245 11 months ago
no demolition on summit is an absolute joke. Enemy teams run round the back of your spawn knifing.
oOKAMAKAYAOo 11 months ago
this is so funny it made me laugh when i didint want to & i subbed for that
richard4696 11 months ago
Hi WhaleMasher. I was looking for a way to predict spawns in BO, but this is even better. I never thought of going into theater mode and just flying around while watching spawns, and i haven't seen anyone else do it either.
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bentsen100 11 months ago
abut.
SquishyyxDxD 1 year ago
it happens in demolition too we got owned with chopper gunners and gunships and dogs because of thyis.
xXJokerMexxX 1 year ago
this map is really bad for spawning
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chobiv7 1 year ago
The spawns are terrible across the board from what I have seen. I play a lot of TDM and oftentimes get spawned right in the middle of an area where both teams are engaged and die nearly instantly. Your player should not be spawned in a situation where you take two steps and die, unless it was due to some type of ordinance dropped from above and you just happened to spawn in it's path.
FueledByDiesel 1 year ago
are you canadian?, just cause the way you say, 'about' im not hatin' im scottish i say, 'about' like, 'abooot'!
smeatonx 1 year ago
Its okay man, i dont like feet so much either
jaredbroider 1 year ago
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mtlaxerman 1 year ago
To me, this is the downside to ending the spawn trapping that ruined most games in MW2. You can't have it both ways. If your team mates run into the enemy spawn and you are still protecting yours, then the game will move their spawn and you will get blindsided.
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OnlyUseMieKnife 1 year ago
How would you compare BlackOps with MW2? I only had the opportunity to play the MW2 demo last year, but I did have a lot of fun with it and have been considering purchasing this game. How would you compare and contrast the multiplayer experiences, would you say it's worth the 50 bucks, and what differences would a new player want to watch out for? Thanks!
metaljesse 1 year ago
@metaljesse in my opinion, now MW2 is probably like 30$ used, and it was worth the 60 bucks i payed, so it will definatly be worth 30
dapwner777 1 year ago
dude this has been pissing me the fuck off too!
good vid.
daggitenator 1 year ago
Oh yea, let's play like we did when Medal of Honor first came out... my team on the left, your team on the right, let's go. The moment I realized enemies could spawn behind me, I'd adapt, period. For example, in your first death, you naively believed spawning should be happening according to your "logic" so you walked out of the building, blinder than a rhino. Whenever you leave cover, or exit a bldg, you always quick look left/right... you just walked out facing forward... hello?
SamFreedom 1 year ago
The only way you can get a good game is if you don't die from shit spawns or if the other team is severely bad. There is no skill involved in this game.. if you think there is and you can get a good game, well you are probably camping on one advantageous spot in the map where you can reach both major spawns. Not much skill involved in that imo.
ireternalexistence 1 year ago
b ops is stupid
blarpinbots124 1 year ago
yous hould call this Black Ops analyting the Spawn System..or like that...
i've known that the spawn system is shit...but that its so fu**ing bad...
computerfreak092 1 year ago
ChhaarliesWorld 1 year ago
Yes, They may be spawning behind and you may be spawning near them, but take into consideration and look at which flags each team controls there is your answer it is kind of expected.
MrSoccs 1 year ago
I enjoyed this...Did they fixed it...? If they didnt, thats so gay...
NoNutsProductions 1 year ago
I guess thats why I keep getting shot :-(
BangAwayable 1 year ago
Do you know anything about domination? The flags you own control your spawns... thats why people are spawning all over the place
t00115577 1 year ago
how do you change the color that shows your name to red instead of green
jrc082100 1 year ago
They have yet to fix this issue. I love this game but flaws like this make it very irritating for me. If it weren't for all the hacked lobbies in MW2 I would be back playing that game. Black Ops has so much potential to be the best COD ever but flaws like these seem to be holding the game back. Like a suped-up bad ass muscle car but all four wheels are on donut tires.
numan11 1 year ago
Treyarch took the fun out of playing mw. I snapped my disc after a month Your vid was just one of many problems with the game. Im not a quick scope guy buy why bother having sniper rifles when it is near impossible to use them . That goes for a lot of the other weapons to. Treyarch needs to go back to the drawingboard. My opinion...............THE GAME SUCKS!!!!!!!!
CraftySkunk 1 year ago
thank you this is the exact problem i have with this map
thank you, make more, bc i find a number a problems with this game
exctinctupinthis 1 year ago
That is a way serious flaw! Effects the entire gameplay!
figzor 1 year ago
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figzor 1 year ago
I think that the spawns are like this because Treyarch wants you to be in constant action. They don't deliver it perfectly however.
Zargogo 1 year ago
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chew5661 1 year ago
Its inexscusable treyarch sucks
Moondrako5 1 year ago
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WhaleMasher 1 year ago
Good Stuff
MuppetrocksHD 1 year ago
demelition spawns are fucked im all ways getin spawn killled
BenderJack254 1 year ago
mate, make more vids with commentary, I LIKE YOUR VOICE :D
Keep up the good work :)
demonskul75 1 year ago
Wanna know how I feel about this game? Ask the guy on Ebay who bought it from me.
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kmanthecavemanffffan 1 year ago
Now... Am I trippin or does the other team own the capture points that you're complaining about from where they spawn. Cuz I'm pretty sure that's how DOM works. You own A or B you spawn near those cap points and your video is showing that your team doesn't own the cap points where the enemies are spawning from.
Kritik25 1 year ago
You have clearly pointed out what I knew was wrong but didn't take the time to prove. Thanks for posting this. You are totally right. Honestly, I'm not playing the game very much because of these spawning issues. Taking control of a map with great teamwork is what makes these games fun. Hope they fix this stuff soon.
Detin8or100 1 year ago
EPIC COMMANDO LUNGE @ 0:28
gingermagicman 1 year ago
Treyarch already do the list of patch .
Its going to be update somehow :X
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DarkChildRed 1 year ago
Great video man.
The bad spawn system is one of reasons I couldn't stand to play Black Ops anymore. You didn't address it in this video, but too many times have I been spawned and a guy is right behind me to knife me at that exact moment. I've even spawned in the enemies plain sight so they can line up a shot on me before I get my bearings right.
Something needs to be done about the spawns.
chrisAKAchig 1 year ago
EASY FIX (team-based games only):
Make only two spawn points. One for each team on either side of the map. Make both spawn points INDOORS so we don't get killed by a Cobra or Napalm Strike right after we spawn. Make both buildings window-free. And finally, put two undamagable turrets next to the exit of the spawn point to prevent enemies from trying to spawn kill your team. Ta-da!
oReFLeXiioNz 1 year ago
Spawn points are RETARDED in black ops. You end up spawning near the middle of the map. Nuketown = torture.
runesick 1 year ago
good analysis...bringing up a subject that definitely affects black ops fun factor...
downhere18 1 year ago
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xEgKxXxDeAtHx 1 year ago
someone needs to start playing search and destroy where there are no spawns!
1IdeaAhead 1 year ago
ZWRIATH OF THE WHALE
blobjohn21 1 year ago
spawns is somthing they need to fix, very annoying
lampman67 1 year ago
If Black Ops can patch some things, it wouldn't be that bad of a game. Really.
AttitudeEra4life459 1 year ago
great video. keep it up.
jwendeborn 1 year ago
I'm sure Treyarch did this spawn system on purpose to keep the game more fluid and moving instead of having each team spawn at each end of the map each time, to be honest that kinda sounds boring to me, having teams have to run to the middle of the map each time to to clash with the other team. Amirite?
PaulWallBbyPplChampz 1 year ago
@PaulWallBbyPplChampz Yeah they did it to create a spawn and dominate. So lets say you spawn you'll kill em...and then they'll spawn behind to dominate you and it will go on and on.
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It is good that someone takes up this problem, especially in this serious and professional way. I laughed at the RC-XD scene XD
Kantenstain 1 year ago
It is good that someone takes up this problem, especially in this serious and professional way. I laughed at the RC-XD scene XD
Kantenstain 1 year ago
great analysis.
breakingbadhabits 1 year ago
This video was done very well. Good job, one more thing what was this you were talking about them making footsteps louder?
str8rippon 1 year ago
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Great video man. Really well done. Hopefully they fix this, but you did a great job of illustrating it all.
pdr5009 1 year ago
Great video man. Really well done. Hopefully they fix this, but you did a great job of illustrating it all.
pdr5009 1 year ago
Fuckin' A man! I kept thinking the same thing while playing, but here you are with well displayed legitimate facts to make your point. And I never heard you threaten to rape anyone!
uberhobo2 1 year ago
nice it was funny 2....but ya tht dosent happen to me tht much if i play domination
jhonny1231001 1 year ago
Haha the RC car was classic!
brian85308 1 year ago
Very nice, man. I enjoyed this!
GoldGloveTV 1 year ago 10
@GoldGloveTV Thanks!
WhaleMasher 1 year ago 6
@WhaleMasher you got commando lundged like crazy 1:29
ihatejulissa11 6 months ago
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Shitkidhtf 1 year ago
It's good that you made this video, you're actually explaining what's wrong with the spawn system instead of shouting ''FIX UR FKING GAME!!''
Luis11717 1 year ago 16
Hilarious narrative.
Dominus357 1 year ago
8:06 "it's aboot dominating. it's aboot being able to control the situation that you're playing. it's not aboot having guys sneak up behind you" *Poot* AAAIHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
tincan77 1 year ago
This is a GREAT video about all the screw ups in spawning. one of the reasons I only play hardcore - because everyone is much more cautious and there's less running around fragging with horrible spawns.
tincan77 1 year ago
i spin around in circles shooting in the nuketown backyards and get kills from enemies respawning...
suddenshotty 1 year ago
Good video. Nuke Town is really bad at it. In TDM you'll re-spawn leave your side think its all good and bam the enemy just re-spawned from the same spot and i'm knifed in the back. i hate those dam back stabbers. lol
Hiway20 1 year ago
well funny with the rc car hahaha
s34mu5 1 year ago
Spawn system is seriously a f*cking joke in this game, i cant remember name of the map, but its night, some japanese dudes and americans of course. There is this one house, if you spawn in there, run out from the house someone might spawn there and shoot you instantly. Its a joke... this all happens in most of the game modes, Demolition works like it should, its perfect what i have played...
But seriously check out the night/japanese map on TDM... i always leave claymore there no protect :P
hcolyle 1 year ago
You need to learn how the game works.
Players spawn in the zones that they control the flags of. I didn't watch the whole video, but until the half way point, all of those back spawns could and should have been anticipated if only people knew how the game works.
Basically, learn to play and stop whining.
I'm not saying the spawn system is perfect, it's not, but it works logically 95% of the time.
methal666 1 year ago
@methal666 Why didn't people spawn at A then?
SportingAPFC2010 1 year ago
@methal666 you Replied to this Post Patch dummy. This is one of the videos that made them address the spawns and make them Logical. You don't understand game Dynamics so don't try to come off as you do.
BEKrustie 1 year ago
Great vid man, Fuck me that last couple of minutes had some crazy arse spawns in it.
OrientalJimSim 1 year ago
if any of u was smart you would pick up mw2. this game blowsssssss
xCeltics2011x 1 year ago
@xCeltics2011x MW2 was 10x Worse and you know it, Treyarch will fix spawns, footsteps, ghost, And the knife range, Oh but whats that? Commando and the UMP haven't been patched? How about one man army? Wasn't that supposed to be patched like 3 months ago? BWAHAHAHAHAH, Were the guns balanced out? No? Were they ever balanced? No. LMFAO MW2 FAILED, The spawns in that game sucked too, And they NEVER fixed it, Maybe it wasn't as bad but you know it WAS bad.
DarkSuccesses 1 year ago
@DarkSuccesses Patches : The reason Treyarch > IW
MrCognee 1 year ago
@MrCognee Also the reason MW2 will go down as the worst online FPS ever.
DarkSuccesses 1 year ago
Am I the only one who thinks that CoD 4 and especially 5 were better than 6 (mw2=rubbish) and 7(black ops) ?
lemme know please
LilJdaSilva 1 year ago
I feel your pain bud, just when you get a kill streak going BANG! shot in the back!
popsuk1 1 year ago
this vid just got you another subscription. You have mae a great vid about the terrable spawns.
dsimm1024 1 year ago
Dammit, you described it really good. And pretty entertaining.( Your other vids too.)
myhoots 1 year ago
Omg
GTAfighterSA 1 year ago
That good spawns being flagged as bad spawns makes a ton of sense. always when i play on summit it seems everyone spawns on one side and the whole match becomes a ridiculous spawn war. and the rest of the map is forgotten :(
Brunswick999 1 year ago
linked to ur vid from the official bad spawns thread..very well put together video..exactly what treyarch needs to fix the game..also..+1 sub for you
nesportskid 1 year ago
domination is really the only game type that is messed up, tdm is really random but that is good because it reduces coordinated camping and keeps your head on a swivel
ILTJtv 1 year ago
subbed! Hopefully treyarch see's this cause other than this, the game is perfect!
catramax 1 year ago
Subscribed. Please make more videos man.
TheMateen110 1 year ago
nice vid check out mine on my channel
z3r0ness 1 year ago
they need to change spawn points because it's ridiculous as much as the horrible spawning is. they spawn us in random corridors on launch... it's so random and horrid...
AudioCorps 1 year ago
lol ,BFBC2, is much better, bigger maps, less spawn problems.
capdstrebor1091 1 year ago
Whoa, nice, you actually took the time and effort to try and make this game better, hope Treyarch sees this !
ChillBuddha 1 year ago
I used to dismiss a lot of the "poor spawning" videos, especially on Summit but watching this, you made a good job demonstrating clearly the fault. Hopefully they can fix this asap.
west3366 1 year ago
At 4:35 a red guy spawns ther too making it worse
themegawillie 1 year ago
this is why i play demolition, you can actually feel safe that u wont get killed from behind coz of gay spawns, if u get killed from behind u always know oh thats cool he flanked me
KserHD 1 year ago
nice job very detailed video hope they fix it soon
noobwerd 1 year ago
the spawning is FUCKED. i wonder what devs would think if they saw this movie ?
baconmakinmayor 1 year ago
@baconmakinmayor they have seen it, there using vids like this to help em out
RoomForGamers 1 year ago
wow, I would subscribe to you if you made gameplay commentary
H3LLK3RN 1 year ago
@H3LLK3RN he does... lol xD
BEKrustie 1 year ago
Great video! Points out what's wrong with the game. In all honesty I must say that Treyarch sucks! World at War was the same bullyhit. Mapdesign is so much worst than Infinity Wards!
I got the Playstation Version which is no better at all concerning spawns.
Gonna go back to MW2 for the next year and wait for Infinity Ward to release the next CoD.
playerpimpdaddy22 1 year ago
@playerpimpdaddy22
As much as I do prefer the IW map design and spawning system (MW 1 and 2 best Black Ops in that arena), you'll be holding your breath a long time for the same developers to bring another experience on par with MW.
Given that most of the top dogs of IW are gone. Activision is using the company's dessicated corpse in hopes of selling MW3, which is no doubt going to be disappointing. Unless, by some miracle, it isn't.
DOOMSayaar 1 year ago
@DOOMSayaar You just made my life miserable! :D Thanks for that info.
playerpimpdaddy22 1 year ago
It's a godsend that they're addressing this. Really, no person should have to be potentially robbed of a Care Package even though they affirmed a clear spot.
Also, the RC-XD bit made me lol.
DeviantProtagonist 1 year ago
Aesome vid! But the spawn system is bad in all game types. For the same reason, you clear an area and someone spawns right there doesn't allow good team play. Especially when half the map isn't being used.
gracilism 1 year ago
Hi Whale,
Great video, I've been complaining about this now over the past few days.
I play mostly on the PC and whilst the gameplay is generally slower its more tactical however with this utterly fucked spawn system it just feels like a free for all and as most servers are Hardcore with Friendly Fire on you end up shooting everyone because you can never trust that someones not spawned behind you.
Brilliant video you should post it on B-Ops forums (If they have one)
CJRamze 1 year ago
Awesome vid dude. Its guys like you that improve gaming communities rather than kids that just complain all day without doing anything constructive as you have done here.
PeePz90 1 year ago 43
@PeePz90 not every1 has a PVR
ChEEsNo 1 year ago
God, these spawns take so much of the strategy, tactics, and positioning out of the game. I mean, sure, CoD ain't that tactical, but it could still pretend like it is, so that hardcore kids could get some thinking out of their games.
georgedaman1221 1 year ago
Next time put team deatchmatch in domination that happens because they spawn you in your flag, but in rare times you spawn in the enemy flag
kunven 1 year ago
Alright man talk to you tonight krusti
golferdad316 1 year ago
Ok thanks krusti can't wait talk to you soon brother
golferdad316 1 year ago
@golferdad316 we're streaming TONIGHT YEAH YEAH
BEKrustie 1 year ago
@BEKrustie when? D: did i miss it? lol
johupp 1 year ago
this makes me so fucking mad at the game. like this occasionally happens to me but damn man, this match was just awful. i'm glad they are going to fix it and they are fixing so much right now. i love treyarch, but all of this woulda been solved if they just had a beta lol. BTW man i subscribed to your channel. i can tell you have some great vids, i'm looking forward to some more man keep it up!
AboveAllBeOriginal 1 year ago
New update from JD_2020: · Improvements to the spawn system to resolve an issue where negative spawn influencers from specific game events were not always being deleted after the danger had cleared – in some matches, this was causing good spawns to be erroneously flagged by the game as bad spawns, which in turn forced actual bad spawns to get selected later in the match.
WhaleMasher 1 year ago 14
@WhaleMasher ya for console, not us poor PC players.
spyglass123 1 year ago
@WhaleMasher vagn said that a new spawn thing will be happening
angp1978 1 year ago
@WhaleMasher yeah... for xbox. :3
SR69MMJC 1 year ago
@WhaleMasher hey great video and commentary. funny and informative. it'd be great if you could send this video to treyarch because it illustrates visually so perfectly what the issue is, especially when the only other feedback on spawning is people on forums endlessing ranting about treyarch being a faceless, orphan consuming corporation. plus it explains why domination has felt like a fucking bunfight
joycie1bannercheck 1 year ago
man i wish you could sell back the iteams youve bought that would be awsome and i wish you could quick scope and black ops is a bit werid like un fair i find
sidebang101 1 year ago
This sums up the #1 problem with the game very simply. Until this is fixed, I'll be sticking to S&D. No spawns = no problems.
ThisClownTastesFunny 1 year ago
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crazy killing spree in black ops check my channel
WeTheGam3rs 1 year ago
very good video!
CODspiller 1 year ago
good video, very clear
but you take too long to explain some simple things
sharpedge989 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with the spawn system, it's just totally f'n broken. They were too busy working on silly graphics to put on your gun. OOoooOOo
NotSoHeavyKevy 1 year ago
This video nailed what is wrong with the spawn system. Good video!
0verAndOut 1 year ago
Did they move where the Flag is based at? I dont remember it being at that spot.
bobmagana 1 year ago
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any map spawns are crazy only game mode that has certain spawns is demoltion tdm is bad i spawned next to oppents and through tomahawk at 1
peingonyou 1 year ago
any map spawns are crazy only game mode that has certain spawns is demoltion tdm is bad i spawned next to oppents and through tomahawk at 1
peingonyou 1 year ago
Vahn looking for videos EXACTLY like this, send it to him. They want to fix it.
youtubedude 1 year ago
Great video, please pass this on to Treyarch's community manager on Twitter:
jd_2020
BrainStewGD66 1 year ago
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TheNeiliobob 1 year ago
That was a LONG ASS knife lung @ 1:32
XxSoCertifiedxX 1 year ago 11
@XxSoCertifiedxX lol yeah it was, I never noticed.
WhaleMasher 1 year ago
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I subbed based off of this vid. Keep it up. :D
AttitudeEra4life459 1 year ago
Great vid. Spawns are a bit crazy, I've ran into a room, cleared it and as I turned my back a guy spawned and knifed me, then I spawned where he did and got to shoot him again before an airstrike hit me when I went outside. I'd rather have secure spawn areas than an opportunity for a revenge kill.
Tangostarr05 1 year ago
This is why DICE should help Treyarch and Infinity ward produce games... their spawn system is perfect... u spawn at ur team... u dont have to worry about some douchebag spawning in ur ass and forth....
dulf87 1 year ago
Great demonstration. I new the spawns were bad, but I didn't realize they were THIS bad.
reuntes 1 year ago