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  • Let's put the X back into Xmas!

  • Unrelated post to the topic but would you mind telling me the song they USED to have (not this current one , I already know it). The ine they sometimes used to have as an intro with the lyrics (partial) "In the garden...

    I was kinda missing that tune now that I been hearing Brian S.'s song on here all the time.

  • I read Jeremiah 10. It does mention the tree. But.. as much as I wanted to have this passage as ammo for Christians, it appears not. It is explained online that it actually discusses using the wood from the tree to make an idol.

    So it did not have the gusto I had wanted.

  • The West's history is all about paganism and Christianity. Just because most westerners are now becoming atheists as we learn more about the natural world and realize that believing in gods is even less rational now that we understand evolution, doesn't mean we can't still celebrate pagan/Christian feasts like Christmas in an entirely secular manner.

    And no, I don't want to even change the name away from "Christ-Mas"... I love the way it sounds. It's lovely.

  • Omg i have a tumor. I hope its not a christ-mass-.

  • I need clarity on that part about the bible saying you should not take a tree and decorate it. Which part of the bible is it from?

  • Does anyone here believe Christmas is evil? Because I've read a thing in the newspaper about some muslim nutjobs who say it leads to things like abortions, rape, paedophilia, and the best one they deem also evil....Raves! Are raves evil? Because I've only heard the word "Rave" in a happy tone of voice. And how do you suffer abortion? Does someone break in your house while your wife/girlfriend is pregnant and proceed to dig out their wombs with a coat hanger?

  • @AdiG1 Oh God, did you need to create that image?

    And when I say Oh God I mean it the ironic way.

  • God does exist. And it is perfectly acceptable to celebrate Christmas. Even the angels deemed Christ's birth praiseworthy.

  • That grinch is trippy. I'll have to remember not to watch this when I'm on anything.

  • who cares about its pagan past. GET OVER IT ATHEISTS UR NOT EVEN PAGANS. its called CHRISTmas celebrate ur winter solstice on the 21!!!!! its just a day to celebrate Jesus's birth and have good times with the family.

  • @guitarchick100

    Not a single Atheist is trying to be Pagan. All we are doing is stating the real origin of the holiday. It is not Jesus' birth.

  • @guitarchick100 "its just a day to celebrate Jesus's birth"

    Then explain the entirely-secular christmas celebrated year after year in Japan (which is the LEAST-religious country IN THE WORLD). They focus on romance, gift-giving, and rather than turkey or ham eat mostly KFC; their christian population is so miniscule as to be virtually NON-EXISTENT.

  • @guitarchick100

    Your Christmas celebrations are not based on the Bible. The Bible is the sole authority on Jesus. The Bible does not instruct us to celebrate Jesus's birth. You are celebrating an unchristian holiday. This is against the Ten Commandments. Continue to celebrate this pagan holiday and you will surely BURN IN HELL!!!

  • jenn look like she a freak

  • Matt and Jenn are my favorite hosts of the AE.

  • I was going to comment on how his 'celebrate without a reason' was a fantastic simile for life and then Matt pointed it out himself. "the value of life is life!"

  • She needs makeup...

  • @dithbmine1

    u need a better brain, christian fart....

  • We live in a capitalist country. Commercialism will always come first. We are brainwashed.

  • Christianity is one of the most biggoted religions on earth. Paul said women shouldn't speak in Church...gotta love christianity....

  • now where would i get the song?

  • It would b very easy 4 me to find all the high profile non christians and blame atheist for their flaws. that's what u r doing to Christians. If u want to knock Christianity go to the book, not man. Blame God. Call out God. u r the same nuts that blame guns for man's crime. blame the bible 4 consistency n ur insanity. anywho,sorry God,Jesus or ur pastor failed u. good luck wit that n eternity. blamin others 4 ur actions. good luck with that in this life. only works if u're a gov't agent.

  • What nonsense. It is not the mythical deity trying to instate religious law in the US, or put Bibles in the classrooms. We rightfully blame the FOLLOWERS for their own demented doing. There is no "blame God" when that thing you call god doesn't even exist.

    You spell like a child, and you pretend to know the secrets of the universe, and even death... how absurd. Completely ridiculous.

  • u aren't proving ur point by knockin human flaw as christian flaw. men are flawed. Christianity isn't perfection. Christianity is having something inside you above your seared conscience. Something that gives u a battle in ur soul. your conscience is ur life's experiences. the holy spirit is the third party that teams with the good in u to do the right thing. ur conscience is telling u to act out according to man. as for xmas thank the same ppl that make u pee n a cup. corporate money mongers.

  • if your atheistic ministry is all about logic and reason, be careful when interpreting the bible. you stated that jeremiah 10 explains the desecration of a decorated tree. I'm guessing you are referring to jeremiah 10:3 which mentions cutting a tree from a forest and a craftsman shaping it with his chisel and then decorating it with gold and silver. Does this verse not make sense? the craftsman is chiseling the wood of the tree into idols! has nothing to do with christmas trees. Thanks, bye

  • I did not decide to think people believe in stupid stuff. The way i see it, people just do. It is not a choice of mind. I can't decide to think scientology is smart. It is not to me. It is not logical to believe in a god to me. I know people who feel belief in god is the only logic choice -people who I think are smart. How could they be so accepting of the religion and so skeptical about other things?

  • Everyone wants to say they have a choice to believe in god or not to but i have inclination that is not a clear as that. I couldn't believe in god with what I know and how I think. And I know people who have a hard time imaging themselves not believing in a god or gods. The information we have access to has important role in in our rationing but if an old book doesn't do it for you, how can you make it? Reading religious texts only should me how foolish and small minded people really are

  • Could you decide to believe me if I said I could fly like a blue bird? If I refused to fly for you, could you make yourself believe if you wanted to? You could not trick yourself like that. There is no way you would be able to convince yourself I could fly. It would take evidence of some sort. Even if you wanted to believe me for some reason you'd still need evidence. The belief or lack of belief in god is a lot more important than if I could fly. So I ask again, is there really a choice?

  • what if everyone had the say knowledge... read the same books, study the translations, had the same preacher or same science teacher, would we believe the same thing, and would it be a choice. I don't have a choice if I'll live through the night. I could kill myself but I can't make my self live by will alone. Is it right to say, I think therefore I am, or should it be I am therefore I think

  • I'm being serious. Is it really a choice to believe or not to believe in god or gods? Atheists say there is no evidence for belief in a god. Believers say their book or thoughts or life experiences are enough evidence. Is there a choice? Can you decide to believe in god or gods if you think there is not the evidence for belief? Can you not believe if you think there is enough evidence?

  • is faith a choice?

  • do you have faith you'll live till tomorrow? Or is it your choice?

  • i hate when christians say that jews have such a stupid religion. i mean christianity is like the same thing!

  • hmm..some people think just because the three monotheistic religions are similar there are small differences

    not true

    christians believe in a trinity wheras jews believe in a god but not all the prophets. some jews even worship idols.

    these are major differences

  • "As lame as Passover?" I don't believe (no evidence, totally implausible) that the Exodus occurred. Yet memories of Seder with Jewish friends are among my most treasured. 2 thousand years of hope against odds. I had the kind of childhood that results in lifelong depression/anxiety, etc. I wandered into church and got "saved" at 12. Three years later I was an atheist (mostly because of the racism), but I really had been saved. I had been vaccinated with hope. I've never lost it again.

  • The other elements of Christmas, the tree, santa, the mistletoe...these all have meanings. Many of which were there long before Christianity. Even most elements of Santa are either pagan, or products of capitalistic advertising. Do you know why Santa is red? Because the Coca Cola Company commissioned an artists to paint him as such.

  • Yuck, midnight mass, I remember being so upset as a kid that I had to stay up so late and couldn't just go to sleep and get to the presents.

  • theme song name?

  • Put Thor back into Thursday!!!!!!!!!!

  • and Saturn back in Saturday!

  • Hmm... I know this has probably been asked a hundred times before, but if it has, I still can't find the answer on Google. What is that catchy theme song at the beginning of the show? Could someone give me a link or a title or something?

  • This video is great at showing why atheists still celebrate this time of year!

  • The moment you label me, based on my lack of beliefs, means I don't have to understand the origins of the label.

    Go ahead and try to argue that we need to know the origins of a word that is only a lable. Go ahead dumb beleiver; argue with me, I will certainly enjoy it. :P

  • @theagrafiotis a mean none and thiest come from a latin word mening god sa it mean none god or if you want to some one who do not belive in god, if your so samrt give me the root of demon, devil, sin,satan,i ll tell you you want regard the christian belive as you taught,it is not a real challenge but information to help you argue with christian even with muslim write me back i ll give you more

  • @theagrafiotis by the way theos in latin come from a graek term zeus wich came in latin dio in spanish dia ,in english days ect...

  • You don't have to know the origins of a word to use it, only its meaning. I bet most people don't know where the word human comes from or when or where it was first used, but this does not mean they are not humans.

  • @theagrafiotis That was one of the worst arguments I have ever read. All you need to know is its definition. The next time you post think first.

  • haha ur a smart one, sorry i just like to mess a little around with my atheists friends when i get bored, atheists helped me realize that religions are a big scam, now i'm on to other things, like global corruption, global crime networks etc. it's amazing the stuff u can find here on utube.

  • theagrafiotis

    That is a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy.

  • i want to have faggot sex with god

  • wonder who writes/performs the theme song-not bad

  • Happy Holidays, FF

  • Amen! Celebrate because you feel like celebrating. Celebrate life!

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  • A Homosapien is a type of monkey which is arrogant, selfish and greedy which has a special trick called 'bending its thumb'.

  • Lol at Matt's knowledge of the Bible. He got it spot on. Jeremiah 10 is all about false idols. the second verse is about trees.

  • Wow! I didn't know that the bible is against the Christmas tree! It's a shocking information to me! And Christians are supposed to be very strong followers of their religion. They often refer to themselves as trustworthy, good people on basis of being Christians! And yet their braking the code in their beloved bible! One funny thing is that a lot of times I've noticed atheists knowing more about the bible the Christians themselves.

  • Most atheist read to disprove scripture, without knowing true understanding of its meaning. And most Christians don't read the bible, they follow like lost sheep what ever their pastors tell them to believe. But the few that read to study for understanding do know, I don't do Christmas that's why I'm on here and not with family, today's Christmas!

  • You refuse to spend time with your family just because a bunch of would-be-Christians are idiots today?

    You replace the idiocy of the Christian Church with your own: rejecting everything that the Church touches, except for the biggest hypocrisy of it all: the Bible.

    Wow... that's probably why you act the way you do. When you dissect your brain from logic and reason, you're still prone to blind faith in whathever 'sounds good.' Maybe you should think things out rather than just memorizing.

  • You have spent your whole day writing to yourself on here and you got something to say about my life :) hahahahahaha Big Fool aren't you?

    What, nobody can stand to be around you, cause it's looking like that if this has been your day...I pity you and I'll pray for you

  • Don't pray for me please, it makes me very sad to think of what you are asking me to be sentenced to!

  • Considering that others agree with me, and diss you, just proves my point.

    Again, you personally attack me rather than discuss the specific issues I brought up about your 'beliefs.'

    Just like a typical Christian zealot... attack rather than debate, slander rather than listen.

    Are you ever going to explain yourself or just keep running away under the guise of being 'persecuted.' Yes, I question your beliefs, so I must be persecuting you. Haha!

  • hmm..I'm having a hard time understanding why you'd name yourself 'sexy' wildchildbaby

    if you're a true christian

  • Most "Christians" today are not the same as the "Original Christians".

    Modern Christians are different variations of Agnosticism that use Old Christian Bible to give "false evidence" for their beliefs. Each nomination has different beliefs and response to said beliefs. Look at the difference between Roman Catholics and the Jehovah's Witnesses alone. Then you have Protestants, Lutherans, Rosicrucian, yatta yatta yatta. There are more denominations of Christianity then grains of sand.

  • Its called 'selective reading.' As time has gone by, the Church has slowly de-empathized the "unpopular" portions of the Bible... ya know: slavery, racism, sexism, Kings-appointed-by-God... all that stupid shit Free societys fight against.

    Remember.. just decades ago, they used scripture to fight against interracial marriage. Decades before that, against women's equality. And before that, to keep blacks in chains.

    Now, they use it against gays. Guess what won't' be tought decades from now.

  • That's why they are atheists.

  • it's always seemed more like a celebration of family and friendship to me. i'm going to call it love day

  • To any atheists who will celebrate Christmas, thank you for sharing in our Savior's birth!

  • you have never looked at comparitive religion obviously..most solar deities were said to be born on december 25th..jesus is just one of them..watch zeitgeist the movie.you can find it here on youtube

  • My cousin was born on Dec 25th too. But just because he shares the day, doesn't diminish what Jesus did.

    (and you may not want to make assumptions about my studies)

  • was she the sun of god,did she have 12 diciples .did she walk on water,was she crucified,was she known as the lamb of god, was she born of a virgin......because these are just some of the attributes that all of these other sun gods had...jesus being one of them

  • I celebrate as an Atheist, so thank you for your sentiment! Good for you. I think we can share the belief in Christ's birth and Santa, Winter Solstice, the Yule. Obviously we can share it and enjoy it.

    Peace!

  • and thank you for reciprocating our feelings of good will towards all humans! merry christmas

  • haha so what savior was born on the 25th?

  • sun god!

  • Thanks!

    I'm so tired of this "put Christ back in Christ-mas" crap! Christians say its supposed to be a celebration of the birth of Jesus -- well, they even admit that he wasn't even born this TIME of year!

    Therefore, I propose, that Christians get their shit straight and figure out when Jesus was born... then they can make that day in September (probably the 11th) their Holy Birth-of-Christ celebration.

    Then, with *no* claims to our Giftmas day in December, they will shut the hell up!

  • well put sir!

  • @godtomen none.

  • @shouldbejaime your savior wasn't even born in december. well okay, to be fair there is no evidence that your savior was born at all. besides that, christmas is pagan. did you not pay attention? do you have a christmas tree in your house? better get rid of it before your 'savior' sends you to burn for eternity!!

  • To Christians who celebrate Christmas, thanks for honoring the pagan god Saturn and using sympathetic witchcraft to usher in the return of the sun!

    I know your Bible forbids all these pagan practices on pain of death, so I really appreciate that you take a day to ignore your God's commands in favor of some unholy good times. Christmas rules.

  • @butchkitties Praise lord Saturn.

  • when i have kids we're celebrating winter during this time of year.

  • Anyone know the artist/song of the open and close of the vid?

  • i'd say the "reason for the season" historically is the solstice

  • @thedork01

    Well said, nice to see someone here is smart.

    P.S.

    The caller in this show has to be an actor...nobody can be that stupid.

  • Christ is in Christmas if you want him to be. If you don't...well He's not. Theres really no big deal.

    Agnostics and Atheists have just a much a right to celebrate during the holidays as Theists do.

    Its just that how we celebrate may be different. Doesn't mean there should be a fuss. Merry Christmas Everyone :D

  • Atheists should stop going around Church's breaking up their services! Oh wait... that's right... atheists don't give a damn what Christians do... as long as you don't shove it in our face by using public (i.e. all of our's) land to push your religious beliefs.

    The best part of Christmas is the celebrations, family, and friends -- all pagan 'fun' that used to be banned by Christians. Now Christians cause hate-and-discontent by trying to break up the fun with "Baby Jesus!" Oh the irony!

  • @IaoGawd there is just too much strife between the two groups. its pointless.

    I COMPLETELY agree. Too many Christians think it is their job to shove their religion down everyone's throat (ehem crusades), but its not.

    They just need to act out what they believe, that will gain way more momentum than yelling in someone's face.

    I'm not sure what you mean by using everyone's land though. if you mean billboards? if that offends you then you're a little too sensitive.

  • No, I'm not sensitive. I was referring to the use of public land (like the courthouse yard) to put up Christian displays like the Jesus-in-the-manger symbol that pops up around Christmas. Its annoying to see billboards, but that's their right.

    For example... I hate smokers. I've never been a smoker. But you know what I hate more? Smoking bans. I believe there's enough market out there for smoke-free enviornments that people's wallets will establish such zones. I don't need a law to force it.

  • ok i wasnt sure what you meant when you said our land. and yes, if church and state are seperated...well seperate them!

  • Just like I always wear my seat belt but abhore the fact that the government can give you a ticket for it. I'm an odds man: the seat belt will save my life, most likely, when some crazy crap happens. We never plan on an accident, so I'd rather have my belt on just in case. But a law and tickets? Bullcrap! Just another way to inflate the government's income under the guise of 'public safety.'

  • Back to what I was originally going to say: I could kiss you! The fact that you pointed out, quite simply, that people should worry about living the life they preach about, rather than preaching about it.

    Do the right thing, and others will follow. I'm tired of people self-promoting and saying "I was saved! And now you can be as happy as me if you do exactly what I did!"

    Right now, Christians are forcing their beliefs upon the rest of us with bans against marriage equality. Its sick.

  • mmhmm, i used to be a Bible beater just like all the rest of everyone else i knew. til i realized it is the least effective method to tell people what i think.

    i just do my own thing and respect everyone else for doing theirs. i have a lot of atheist friends and they're swell guys (and gals).

  • you're so full of it...I've never pushed my beliefs on anyone...you talk way to much and say a whole bunch of nothing, if you don't want God in your life sooooooo-K with me! You won dude, be happy in your empty room cause you have reached the heavens with your spite, you'll be just where you wanted to be.

  • god is a faggot and therefore deserves no praise. I would gladly puch jesus in the mouth, then when he turns the other cheek, punch him again harder.

  • Sure you will :D tell God not me! What I'm your mom, yuck think not...

  • haha good one, but u forget religious people are hypocrites, they say other things and do other i bet when u punch jesus u would have 12 angry students beating u to the ground lol :D

  • what does that make you?

    idiot. don't go raving like that

  • what does that make you? a shitty arguer because youre a fuck? shut your mouth next time.

  • what the fuck are you smoking?

    no..it makes me the one who wiped your ass

    shut your own mouth

  • weed. and you would wipe my ass for 2 reasons:

    1. because im better than you

    2. becasue youre a fag and would like it.

  • I don't think English is your first language.

    'wipe one's ass' is an expression like 'fuck off'

    go back to elementary school

    or, better yet, pre-k

  • @SevTSnape

    not in the context you used it in retard.

    maybe youre the one who should go back to school, cause you obviously learnt nothing.

  • maybe u should learn english then talk

  • well clearly your understanding of snglish is very bad because thats the language im using right now. youre once again proving your retardedness.

  • on second tht, reread these comments

    you clearly are one of a kind

    a 10 yr old bringing out inance comments who thinks he's cool because he doesn't understand what I'm saying?

    how sad. what next? a flying pig who's smarter than you? huh, 10 yr old?

  • @SevTSnape

    Ahh, resorting to name calling, the last attempt of a scoundrel.

  • hmmm...what's this?

    another 10 yr old comment?

  • Nope what you said is the reply of a 7 year old. you really need to put more thought into your responses because youre clearly stumped.

  • You proclaim literal interpertation of the Bible, thus your rejection of Christmas.

    I ask again, point-blank... do you also believe in slavery and the subservience of women? Do you believe its not adultery if a man sleeps with a woman, who is not his wife, so long as said woman isn't already married to someone else?

    To a brainwashed, emotional individual such as yourself... facts, evidence, and historical events may SOUND like "bunch of nothing," so I understand why its over your head.

  • And, also, you need to pull your head out of your ass. I have a very strong, very spiritual relationship with God as I'm a deist, but not a theist.

    Most people in the world believe in God... then the religions have you kill each other over what His name is, what He looks like, and what He wants. In reality, when you boil away all the dogma and rituals, you find people are united on a message of Universal Love and Acceptance.

    The good and Love in people bring them to God, not Jesus worship.

  • I need to pull my head out my ass you say, but some who I'm the bad guy that attack rather than debate, slander rather than listen. :) I don't care if satan himself says I'm wrong, I don't care what anyone calls me or thinks, as much of a troll as you've become...looks like you're the one with the problem not me :D What women run your life, so you troll women on line to take out what you can't at home?

    I told you days ago, you won't upset me your life!

  • Hahahaha... you are a joke! Again, you resort to attacking me personally, rather than actually discuss anything. Nice... classy.

    As for my woman, we have a relationship of equality that I can only hope others have the fortune of experiencing. She's the yin to my yang and my perfect compliment. Its cute how you try to attack her so as to try and upset me... aren't you just the pot calling the kettle black? You are upset by me, but I just laugh at your idiocy and lunacy! Haha!

  • So once again I'm the one that attack and slander..LOL

    I blocked you days ago because of what you did to my channel wall. So you use this persons comments to keep this going...If I was all the things you've called me, I would be trolling you and I'm not, and you still haven't made me mad and won't, I feel pity for you only! You say you have a great relationship with your woman, dude how could you? Your time is spent trolling me. It's so-k I'll pray for you :)

  • You blocked me for what I did to your channel wall? Hahahahaha... you are a joke and the perfect example of the hypocrisy and lunacy of Christians. On your wall, I asked you to explain how you can claim that faith in Jesus will instantly erase your sins and give you an enlightened life, then admit you still sin even though you've been "saved by Jesus."

    Asking you to explain your hypocrisy amounts to an attack? Yet you may attack anyone who disagrees with your 'only path to God' belief?

  • Hahaha... if 'going on like a chick' is standing up for truth with logic, reason, facts, and evidence, then I guess I'm a chick. Of the dozen specific points (slavery, subservience of women, gay inequality, etc), you've avoided answering any of them.

    You, like a broken record, simply keep repeating 'Jesus saves. Jesus is the only path to God. Any other path is Satan and to Hell.' I am open to all beliefs and opinions, while you are close-minded and use censorship to silence opposition. Nice.

  • hail satan

  • @sexywildchildbaby i do not sin because sin is a man made concept that i do not agree with. i will not repent because talking to yourself is useless. i'd rather move forward with secular self improvement and actually DO something.

  • I invite all to compare my wall to your wall... your attacks versus my non-attacks. Yet you felt the need to ban me for what *I* did to *your* wall? Especially funny because your wall comments must be approved by you, yet I allow free posting on mine. Again, I only questioned your hypocrisy and rather than answer questions, you banned me?

    Just like a typical religious zealot, you use the power of censorship to silence any and all people and ideas that you don't agree with.

  • Wow... you're a real class act. I see that you took slandering me to another person's channel. There you lied and completely mis-respresented our exchanges. Why I'm surprised at the sheer lack of common sense, logic, and reason coming from you.. I don't know.

    Continue spending your life judging anyone who disagrees with you... continue playing the 'woman' card, or other 'persecuted' card, when faced with anyone who doesn't bow down to your 'greatness.' Jesus is very disappointed in you.

  • So now you think your Jesus? hahahaha I do know what you're doing, it's sick but I've seen this many times. We'll just call it one handed typing and you're a sick person....You should feel shame sicko!

    You're getting off on this, you need help! SOON!

  • Wow... this whole conversation is just way over your head isn't it? {sigh} I have been wasting my time refuting the ramblings of the village idiot. Guess that makes me the sucker...

    My comment about Jesus was not a self-proclamation that I am Jesus. Sheesh.. I guess I need to spell it out for you... using small words...

    Jesus, as a messenger of Peace, Non-Violence, Non-Judgement, and Loving your Enemies, would disagree with your beliefs and world view as distorted with condemnation.

  • @IaoGawd Your definitely not Jesus because im him

  • @sexywildchildbaby how can you be so deceitful? so many things were thrown at you for debate, but instead you ignore the points made and attack on a personal level. and then on top of that, you accuse the opposing party of slandering YOU? how does that even make any sense? quit projecting and answer some questions, dumb bitch.

  • As for the sheer retardedness of your stance: "I don't care if satan himself says I'm wrong." Really? Do you think that Satan, in all his manipulating glory, would say "Hi, I'm Satan" when he seduces you?

    That's why you're so f*ing ignorant! In your own belief structure, you recognize that the anti-christ will be a false messiah. Duh! A fake Jesus... thus, to the blind faithful, the retarded followers, you will FOLLOW someone you THINK is Jesus regardless of all the evidence.

  • @laoGawd

    ann religous wars are just a fight about who has the better imaginary friend.

  • The reason for the season is Solstice and the birth of Sol Invictus.

    Xmas trees, yule logs, holly and ivy and all the rest are 'BAPTIZED PAGAN PRACTICES'.

  • Well thank you atheists for promoting the truth about Christmas that it is suppose to be about Jesus. However you must keep in mind that even when someone is born again as long as we are alive in this body we have temptations however God forbid we give in to it. Thank you nevertheless.

  • How can you jump from a video about how modern Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus to temptations of the flesh? Everything of thought or provocation must be nothing more than 'temptation' to draw the faithful from their God?

    That's the whole problem with Christianity and religion: to question your faith is to blasphemy... is to sin... questions are the Devil!

    Science... oh how questions are embraced! You're welcome for vaccines, computers, and the internet... all results of questioning.

  • Right: murder, rape, and steal all you want... but as long as you say the magic password "Jesus is my Lord and Savior," then you have a golden ticket to Heaven.

    Spend your life never hurting anyone and helping your fellow man... but not accepting the God-man Jesus... and you'll burn forever!

    The fact that you'd rather reward a murderer with eternal salvation and damn a good man to never-ending punishment just reveals how hypocritical your beliefs are and why logic and reason reject them.

  • The fact that you have no ability to recognize right or wrong, unless its in the Bible, scares the shit out of me.

    Are you telling me that you'd kill someone if the Bible authorizes it, as it does for the kiling of gays and hethens, in the name of the Lord? You must believe killing is okay then and I reject such superstitions.

    Why do Christians feel the need to force their beliefs upon gays if you aren't suppoesd to judge? Why mess with gays on Earth when God will judge them later?

  • I won't argue with anyone salvation is not by works of righteous because our righteousness is but filthy rags God offers forgiveness through faith in Jesus Christ. Thank you and have a Merry Christmas.

  • Right... I understand that you can't justify the idiocy and lunacy of your faith system. It'd hurt my brain trying to defend illogical, unrational beliefs, too. Why? Because the brain isn't just "feelings" -- humanity's greatest evolutionary skill is the ability to reason.

    Feelings are good for survival... but we cannot build a sustainable world off of 'feelings.' Science is non-emotional, hence how its given us the greatest achievements of man. God forgives because that's nature, not Jesus.

  • Now... run away with your tail between your legs with a parting "God bless you. I'll pray for you" or whatever other condescending crap you want to project.

    The truth is, I'm VERY spirtiual with a STRONG belief in God. However, I denounce BLIND faith and ignorant obedience -- which is obviously the opposite of what you embrace.

    So, don't come in here insulting my enlightenment because I don't swear allegiance to Jesus. Your though process is what allows religious wars to destroy humanity.

  • @"OnlyJesusCanSaveYou"

    BTW, I love the hypocrisy right on the face of your channel. You claim "When you put your faith in Jesus you are set free from sin and may walk a holy and righteous life" after telling the story of your 'salvation' by Jesus: "Since then I have been walking with the Lord God. Yes, I have had pitfalls along the way... you know I'm still in this corrupted flesh."

    So, damnit, which one is it? Is faith in Jesus the magical cure-all or do you still struggle with sins?

  • Well obviously you just have pray more! Or god is testing your faith! Or you don't really love jesus! One of them, surely!

  • Someday, maybe I'll do a new translation of the Holy Bible... and when I'm done, I'll slap the title "Hypocrisy" on it...

    It'll help explain how the two parts, Old and New Testaments, fit together.

    Then, for those more intelligent, people would also be able to pick up on all the intra-hypocrisy within the individual books of each testament. Like inside jokes, the 'hidden' hypocricies will split your sides with laughter!

    Or... maybe... I smoked too much weed and ate too many shrooms???

  • @OnlyJesus: "God offers forgiveness through faith in Jesus Christ."

    Translation: My god will burn you for ETERNITY after you die, unless you accept his gift of human sacrifice of his own son.

    Thanks, but no thanks.

  • Don't be so quick there, bud...

    I mean... Old Testament God demanded animal sacrifices all the time! With New Testament God v2.0, He was kind enough to accept *one* human sacrfice in the name of the thousands of animals sacrifices.

    What's not to love about that deal? I mean... come on! Come on!

    Come on!

    One mesley human for a butt-ton of animals? Come on! This is the deal of the millenium!

    Nyuk nyuk...

  • There are many paths to God...

    If you believe God to be holy, good, virtuous, and Loving, then any faith that embraces God in that view will discover God's nature and blessing.

    Demanding that only the Bible, and Jesus, can be the path to enlightenment is, at best, grossly naive and ignorant... and, at worst... provocation to kill all non-Jesus-followers.

    Thank God that in America, at least, atheism isn't a death sentence like it has been throughout all man's history.

  • I'm more Atheist than Religious, my family started Mormonism & Religions/Cults have put a real bad taste in my mouth. However, most Atheists fall into the trap of the far left and their agenda for World Domination & Genocide claiming that it's "good for the Earth" when in fact it's a Religious indoctrination for human sacrifice in the name of Gaea. If you're Atheist, that's cool but fucking Don't Tread On Me! With no God to worship however, you're more likely to worship a Totalitarian Dictator

  • I'm very spiritual, while also being very anti-religious. I would hope that an atheist has reached their world view by deep introspection and insight... and then rejected all non-rational, illogical beliefs. Therefore, worship of any God or person would be rejected as a contradiction in-of-iitself.

    Now is that reality? Probably not. But I'd venture the guess that the average atheist is more questioning, less brain-controlled than the average Bible thumper. And that's a good start.

  • I don't think any one person should have the power to decide who lives and dies. What I'm talking about is, as a species, not allowing our death control to outpace our birth control.

    We can't have people spitting out 10 kids "because God doesn't approve of birth control or protection." While at the same time, they use all science available to "not go to Heaven right now."

    We need to be smart about having only one planet on which to live. The same goes for not blowing it up with nukes.

  • I agree that unless you're self independent and run a Ranch/Farm then there is no need for a Brady Bunch. But that's not my place to force that onto others. All I'm saying is, the ideas of Overpopulation, Humans are a Disease, Planned Parenthood, Fluoride and Mercury in the Water and GMO Foods filled with Human and Animal DNA mostly come from the same small groups of people. I don't know the whole agenda but I do know that the Elites want us out of their way so they can create a Matrix of slaves

  • Funny how you contemplate hypothetical 'plans for World Domination' by the left and atheists. Yet, historically, such wickedness has been religion's signature since the dawn of Man.

    I'm more worred about religious extremists self-fulfilling prophecy of the 'End Times' so that God may 'reign forever.' With nukes, that's a scary possibility now.

    Science has the double-edge sword of knowledge: good and evil. Greed and fear manipulate the application of knowledge.

  • There are couples that want no children... others who want lots of chlidren. I don't ever want anyone to decide for someone what is the correct path for them.

    So, instead, I'd rather focus on common sense solutions: adopt a child instead of bringing another into the world. Carrying on your bloodline is an antiquated belief that should have died out with Kings and royal-blood beliefs.

    I believe in condoms and sex education so as to lessen "unwanted" pregnancies. And I believe in abortion.

  • I voted for the butt head prez. we have now, because I hate war. I have one son, not ten! If someone killed and raped your mom would you just say, don't worry dude that's cool? No, I think not... religion sucks I agree with you fully, but not all believers follow religion. I follow Christ not man, rap your mind around that, not church and maybe you'll understand the difference.

  • Miss-High-and-Mighty-Know-It-A­ll didn't realize that Obama was just another politician? God didn't give you special insight that Obama was telling you what you wanted to hear and that he would do the opposite with power? Wow... guess you're not as close to God as you front in order to sell your "art" to Jesus suckers (your website).

    As for not following man... wow... you're an idiot to the Nth degree! You preach about STRICTLY following the Bible... the book written by MEN? Tsk tsk....

  • I brought up some glaring contradictions in your book of faith, yet you dismiss them without discussion. What kind of person are you that you can't even justify your own beliefs, nor share your reasons for your beliefs?

    You're one of those "I have a secret" people that says "I can't tell you why, you just have to trust me." You may not believe in a physical Church of Religion, but you've created your own Church in your head.

    You attack and exclude anyone that doesn't agree with you. Nice.

  • @sexywildchildbaby you follow christ but you don't follow religion? religion lead you to christ so that already doesn't make sense. that's like playing golf regularly, yet denying the label of golfer.

  • The reason it doesn't make sense to you is because, I follow Christ not man :) History bud read it! I haven't attacked anyone, but I've been attacked and still kept my cool. Did Christ say lets start a religion? NO, read the bible...Did He have a building that He preached in? No, so where's the religion? To be a Christian, you must pick up your cross and walk with Christ! Please know what you're talking about before commenting me. Play with scripture and you'll get burned, careful!

  • @sexywildchildbaby okay, let's work out this confusion you have about religion being separate from christ.

    re⋅li⋅gion

    noun

    1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

  • @sexywildchildbaby your belief in the bible, is religious. that is the definition. besides, have YOU read the bible? to be a christian, you must follow it's teachings. do you know about any of those laws to obey? the actions punishable by death? or are you one of those old testament apologists?

  • Do you have any idea how many different kinds of Christians there are? You lump all of them together? What's wrong with you??? I bet you don't even know why the did Pilgrims come to America? To escape religious persecution ding dong, don't you know your history?

  • @sexywildchildbaby clearly you are missing the point. reading the bible, cherry picking what you like and then creating a new sect is even more ridiculous than taking the bible at face value in the first place. with your logic i am free to claim that i have a unicorn in my backyard. and not only is it okay if i believe this, but other people can take my claim of the unicorn and change small aspects to suit their agendas. i know full well about religious persecution. beats me why YOU bring it up.

  • I cherry picking what I like and then creating a new sect, What the heck are you talking about? Do you have it in your backyard for kids to ride? I'm starting to think you would love it if I beat you....Only pervs. keep this up with women, you picked the wrong woman to mess with. As soon as you learn US history then talk to me, your sorry try at putting down my faith has failed! NEXT PLEASE!

  • @sexywildchildbaby i don't know if i can dull it down any further... if the bible is god's word, and a christian is someone who follows christ's teachings, then how are there all these different types of christians? the bible is very clear on what to believe, who to discriminate against and how to live your lives. how are you still a christian by the bible's standards if you are open to interpret it any way you please? keep this up with women? i am a woman, you fool.

  • @sexywildchildbaby btw i am not trying to 'put down your faith'. i don't care what you believe in. i'm simply reminding you that there is no logical reason to believe it.

  • @ holdenbane

    it's-ok I get trolled all the time :) Atheist think they know it all...laughable yes, hurtful nope not one tiny bit! You see as much as you don't care about what I believe, I don't care what you think. No, wait I don't care much more!!!

    I don't follow soul suckers and you're a soul sucker.

  • @sexywildchildbaby what i don't understand is why you keep replying to me like you want to debate, but then every time i throw something at you, you just ignore it. it makes no sense. how am i a soul sucker? because i want you to be the intelligent human being that you have the potential to be, and really examine what you believe in? you can believe whatever you want, i just want you to be able to tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction. for your sake!

  • Just reading some non-sense on this page... and came across your exchange with 'sexywildchildbaby.' It's just so funny hearing someone else banging their head against the wall with that 'woman.' Apparently, to question her is to be sexist and anti-woman. All I ever asked (and finally gave up on) was for some logic and reason, some justifiation or explanation of her beliefs.

    But, as you clearly found out yourself, she doesn't grasp how picking-and-choosing from the Bible is retarded.

  • Oliver Cromwell wanted to put Christ back into Christmas and canceled it along with all the drinking and partying etc..

    The English finally had enough of his crap and got rid of him, unfortunatley for us, his friends all came to the new world and started killing the natives. They were called Puritans but today, I call them Fucktards. Is that wrong?

  • sheeesh...Christian Fundies need to get their religous dick out of America's asshole..

  • The very next verse, 10:5, goes on to say, "Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good." This passage and the passages that follow make it crystal clear that the "decorated tree" that Jeremiah was talking about in 10:3-4, was a tree that was cut down and made into an idol, a very common custom in the ancient world."