john williams is a good guitarist but in my opinion as he grew older he started ruining more songs just by playing them way too fast. if this is the "rebirth" then why so fast? it should sound the way the composer wanted it
@matonmarshall far too many guitarists read "emotion" and "expression" as "rubato" and "picking hand so far up it's above the frets". playing it at this tempo makes the subtleties in the rhythm, where it slips between 3/4 and 6/8, more noticable. plenty of south american waltzes use this technique to give the rhythm a more jittery feel which can be lost when it's slowed down
He plays it like he's angry at the song and just wants it over. Hence the ugly moment at 2:04. Just about every other version I looked at puts more emotion into it. I honestly do not feel the great maestro connects with the melody of this song.
This Prelude is incredible hard to play in its written 6/4 bar. But ... much easier, if interpreted as 3/4...
Over the years I heard hundreds of interpretations, but never a single one-, not even from the greatest players-, which is played in a swinging (!) 6/4. Though I played almost each guitar composition of Villa-Lobos, I also always failed in this one and had to give it up. Maybe this Prelude is unplayable ? (If someone knows a recording in a real 6/4 please tell me)
@FHgitarre Technically, I think the difference between 6/4 and 3/4 was that although each third beat is accented (ONE two three; ONE two three FOUR five six), in 6/4 the first beat of every measure is accented more than the fourth beat. So, ONE two three Four five six, or something like that. Imagine the difference between 3/8 and 6/8. Given Villa-Lobos, however, he was probably just doing whatever he wanted, as he always does.
I just sang it with the score. I'm almost sure, that Villa-Lobos had my kind of phrasing in mind.
And that would be a swinging/singing melodic one, which goes even more than over one bar. But John Williams, he scrambles it even in half bars, this is what I really hate in those kinds of interpretation of the Prelude 5.
@ronjazz1 your comment is full of shit and is typical of a prick. so now people cant enjoy music at different levels? wow, isnt the world a boring place
This is a very precise and, of course, great version from this master. Although, Bream owns in interpreting Villa-Lobos, I think Bream's version is much more colourful and more sophisticated, as usual.
I really don't like his interpretation. It's such a bright tempo and he plows through the chords with little regard for feeling or subtlety. As I like to say, "just playing the notes." Brasileiros are the best at it but Bream does a great job of it too. Check out Bream's masterclass that rareguitarvideos put up on this piece. Just my preference, of course.
This has nothing to do with nacionality. I think that the best performer of the 5 preludes is Julian Bream, but I prefer Turibio Santos playing the first one.
I also like J. Caballero's interpretations as well. While we would like to believe that nationality has nothing to do with it, I don't think we can deny the fact that Brazilians will have an upper hand playing Brazilian music. When you are exposed to music throughout your lifetime (living the music) it reaches the subconscious level and defines you. That's not to say that outsiders can't beautifully interpret the music, just that their cultural awareness of the music will not be nearly as deep.
I don´t like this version at all, with all respect to Williams. This is not the prelude no. 4 so you can question why someone puts "slow down". There is sooooooo much to extract from this prelude when you play it at a proper tempo that not too many anglosaxon players, masters included, can percieve. And this is said keeping in mind that Williams plays Barrios veeery well.
@diegoarboli When you say, "There is so much to extract....that not many angloxason (sic) players, masters included, can perceive" are you saying that anglo-saxons have bad hearing? or maybe that they lack some passion inherent in South Americans?
If you took out the anglo-saxon part your comment would be less offensive and more correct.
I´m sorry to say "indeed, that´s what I tried to say". And I´m not saying that anglo saxons aren´t capable of perceiving the latin american feeling, but I AM saying that not too many can. And when you quoted me, you forgot to put the important part of my quote: "... AT A PROPER TEMPO".
@diegoarboli I cut that part out cause it had nothing to do with what annoyed me in your quotation. I only wanted to bring out the portion that singles out anglo-saxons and their difficulty hearing the "latin feeling." You could say that you think Latins play it best. But to single out a group? Why? Can Asians hear it? Can Africans hear it? Would you be annoyed if I generalized as you do by race and said you're not understanding the distinction because Latins (usually) reason poorly?
I am talking about anglo saxons and latins because this piece was written by a latin composer and this version is played by a descendent of anglo saxons (I put that before you start implying that I think John Williams is English). I really didn´t think I needed to explain that one. Asians? Not only I can tell you that Kazuhito Yamashita will NEVER understand the latin feeling, but I can also tell you that he is the worst Bach interpreter ever! Africans? I haven´t heard of any
For instance, I can and will never say that a Latin American guitarist is the best interpreter of baroque music, or japanese music for guitar, that is just common sense, because he may lack of feeling some natural aspects for interpreting that music. As I am saying that "not too many anglosaxon players (because of THIS Williams example), masters included, can percieve. And I can assure you that if Williams slows down a bit here, he will naturally interpret lots of other things.
classical guitar player from that continent. In any case, my initial point is that, no matter if played by a Chinese, an anglo saxon or any other, the very first people who will understand Latin American music for interpretation will, obviously, be Latin Americans, when other players, wherever they come from, may feel virtuosity and/or velocity is the way to go. And this comparison can go for many examples.
"Sigh" If only the lost Villa-Lobos prelude No.6 were found, the villa-lobos preludes would be complet.
TheEs379 2 days ago
Don't you dare scroll down! Now go back up and watch his awesomeness!
sammyenjosh 1 week ago
I wish to play like that!
ruberte1 2 months ago
john williams is a good guitarist but in my opinion as he grew older he started ruining more songs just by playing them way too fast. if this is the "rebirth" then why so fast? it should sound the way the composer wanted it
LUCADEMICXS 6 months ago
too fast for me.. but john williams rules.
archegui 6 months ago
holyshit. he is the finest guitarist in his generation, no doubt about it.
MsAzz12345 8 months ago
Sounds like he's running late for his bus. Doesn't seem to be much emotion there.
matonmarshall 8 months ago
@matonmarshall far too many guitarists read "emotion" and "expression" as "rubato" and "picking hand so far up it's above the frets". playing it at this tempo makes the subtleties in the rhythm, where it slips between 3/4 and 6/8, more noticable. plenty of south american waltzes use this technique to give the rhythm a more jittery feel which can be lost when it's slowed down
cal679 7 months ago
i shall invest in zis piece...
igotsmoshedify 9 months ago
He plays it like he's angry at the song and just wants it over. Hence the ugly moment at 2:04. Just about every other version I looked at puts more emotion into it. I honestly do not feel the great maestro connects with the melody of this song.
qarzaq 11 months ago
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qarzaq 11 months ago
Hector. *snorts*
FretboardToAsh 11 months ago
Seems very heavy handed and dry. There is such pathos that is not even hinted at.
Boldstrummer 11 months ago
This Prelude is incredible hard to play in its written 6/4 bar. But ... much easier, if interpreted as 3/4...
Over the years I heard hundreds of interpretations, but never a single one-, not even from the greatest players-, which is played in a swinging (!) 6/4. Though I played almost each guitar composition of Villa-Lobos, I also always failed in this one and had to give it up. Maybe this Prelude is unplayable ? (If someone knows a recording in a real 6/4 please tell me)
FHgitarre 1 year ago 2
@FHgitarre But if it was written in 6/4, why interpreting as a 3/4??
fabo92 10 months ago
@FHgitarre Technically, I think the difference between 6/4 and 3/4 was that although each third beat is accented (ONE two three; ONE two three FOUR five six), in 6/4 the first beat of every measure is accented more than the fourth beat. So, ONE two three Four five six, or something like that. Imagine the difference between 3/8 and 6/8. Given Villa-Lobos, however, he was probably just doing whatever he wanted, as he always does.
woodencardboard 8 months ago
@woodencardboard
I just sang it with the score. I'm almost sure, that Villa-Lobos had my kind of phrasing in mind.
And that would be a swinging/singing melodic one, which goes even more than over one bar. But John Williams, he scrambles it even in half bars, this is what I really hate in those kinds of interpretation of the Prelude 5.
(Btw I admire most of John Williams' recordings)
FHgitarre 8 months ago
show off...
hugjsk 1 year ago
This version is full of feeling and nuance. Anybody missing that has a built-in bias against good playing.
ronjazz1 1 year ago 2
@ronjazz1 your comment is full of shit and is typical of a prick. so now people cant enjoy music at different levels? wow, isnt the world a boring place
MeckelBot 1 year ago
@MeckelBot
Your comment says far more about you than about either me or maestro Williams. LOL!!
ronjazz1 5 months ago
This is a very precise and, of course, great version from this master. Although, Bream owns in interpreting Villa-Lobos, I think Bream's version is much more colourful and more sophisticated, as usual.
oknarbtal 1 year ago
The composor's name is HEITOR. Oh, and this is the dryest performance I've ever seen. Williams sucks.
eirinikos 1 year ago
@eirinikos Of course Williams sucks, that's why everybody's buying your recordings!
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
ronjazz1 5 months ago 4
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ipoodaily 1 year ago
the second part in my opinion, its too fast (meno), its like no feelings on it. i prefer narciso yepes playing.
albertuss90 1 year ago
@albertuss90 you can find yepes playing villa-lobos at spotify. write "narciso yepes villa-lobos".
albertuss90 1 year ago
I really don't like his interpretation. It's such a bright tempo and he plows through the chords with little regard for feeling or subtlety. As I like to say, "just playing the notes." Brasileiros are the best at it but Bream does a great job of it too. Check out Bream's masterclass that rareguitarvideos put up on this piece. Just my preference, of course.
fodera6 1 year ago
This has nothing to do with nacionality. I think that the best performer of the 5 preludes is Julian Bream, but I prefer Turibio Santos playing the first one.
csm120 1 year ago
I also like J. Caballero's interpretations as well. While we would like to believe that nationality has nothing to do with it, I don't think we can deny the fact that Brazilians will have an upper hand playing Brazilian music. When you are exposed to music throughout your lifetime (living the music) it reaches the subconscious level and defines you. That's not to say that outsiders can't beautifully interpret the music, just that their cultural awareness of the music will not be nearly as deep.
fodera6 1 year ago
the king!!!
dlevita 1 year ago
Oh nice, thanks for sharing!
buno7777 1 year ago
le sale feo
namibal 1 year ago
Juan Carlos Laguna, mexican player, his version is the best. Hate this prelude when played sooooo fast, theres nothing at all when played this fast.
n64321 1 year ago
I don´t like this version at all, with all respect to Williams. This is not the prelude no. 4 so you can question why someone puts "slow down". There is sooooooo much to extract from this prelude when you play it at a proper tempo that not too many anglosaxon players, masters included, can percieve. And this is said keeping in mind that Williams plays Barrios veeery well.
diegoarboli 1 year ago 2
@diegoarboli When you say, "There is so much to extract....that not many angloxason (sic) players, masters included, can perceive" are you saying that anglo-saxons have bad hearing? or maybe that they lack some passion inherent in South Americans?
If you took out the anglo-saxon part your comment would be less offensive and more correct.
djc19821 1 year ago
@djc19821
I´m sorry to say "indeed, that´s what I tried to say". And I´m not saying that anglo saxons aren´t capable of perceiving the latin american feeling, but I AM saying that not too many can. And when you quoted me, you forgot to put the important part of my quote: "... AT A PROPER TEMPO".
diegoarboli 1 year ago
@diegoarboli I cut that part out cause it had nothing to do with what annoyed me in your quotation. I only wanted to bring out the portion that singles out anglo-saxons and their difficulty hearing the "latin feeling." You could say that you think Latins play it best. But to single out a group? Why? Can Asians hear it? Can Africans hear it? Would you be annoyed if I generalized as you do by race and said you're not understanding the distinction because Latins (usually) reason poorly?
djc19821 1 year ago
@djc19821
I am talking about anglo saxons and latins because this piece was written by a latin composer and this version is played by a descendent of anglo saxons (I put that before you start implying that I think John Williams is English). I really didn´t think I needed to explain that one. Asians? Not only I can tell you that Kazuhito Yamashita will NEVER understand the latin feeling, but I can also tell you that he is the worst Bach interpreter ever! Africans? I haven´t heard of any
diegoarboli 1 year ago
@diegoarboli
For instance, I can and will never say that a Latin American guitarist is the best interpreter of baroque music, or japanese music for guitar, that is just common sense, because he may lack of feeling some natural aspects for interpreting that music. As I am saying that "not too many anglosaxon players (because of THIS Williams example), masters included, can percieve. And I can assure you that if Williams slows down a bit here, he will naturally interpret lots of other things.
diegoarboli 1 year ago
@djc19821
classical guitar player from that continent. In any case, my initial point is that, no matter if played by a Chinese, an anglo saxon or any other, the very first people who will understand Latin American music for interpretation will, obviously, be Latin Americans, when other players, wherever they come from, may feel virtuosity and/or velocity is the way to go. And this comparison can go for many examples.
diegoarboli 1 year ago
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djc19821 1 year ago
Está rápido demais,não gostei,retirou a leveza da peça!!!
nilsonbjr 1 year ago
This man is technically INSANE...
yet emotionally disconnected from this (and alot more) piece completely, no pleasure in listening at all... :(
roelhoogendoorn 1 year ago
@roelhoogendoorn
Agreed - this is a pretty horrid interpretation.
JapJackson 1 year ago
If by any chance it's fast you have to accept it because John Williams is playing it ...
GreenAppleM2008 1 year ago
slow down? are you kidding? this the rhythm of brazilian guitar. The music is this way.
aloharosa 1 year ago 18
@aloharosa Whatever, it's classical music not bossa nova.
GyveTurckee 1 year ago
@aloharosa Is writen the sheet music, "Poco Animato" on the first part, and not "Piu Animato"!
lbrandaovieira5 3 months ago
too fast ..... slow down!
keto6789 1 year ago
2 : 04 hauhaa He`s mistakes
Vyny7 1 year ago
schweeer!!!!!
mathmoser 2 years ago
very tight, articulate, and clean..just a little too fast for me though
msutton2006 2 years ago 3
Maestro
leibniz771 2 years ago 18
lindo preludio de villalobos
excelente matizacion del maestro williams
simplemente excelente
guitarclasic4693 3 years ago 4
que bien toca maestro
odeodu 3 years ago
que bien toca maestro
odeodu 3 years ago