Scientology: WISE Fraud 2/5

[MrJohndoakes]

4:10 That's the key element of Scientology: it never returns more than you pay in - in fact you're damn lucky to break even! And for the professional who gets sucked into Sciism through WISE it's a double whammy because they nail you with the bogus "office tech."

[lauraleesmithagain]

@pizzaboy180 I'm not sure about this. Most churches only get their money by willing donations or by the government. So what would the government tax?

Scientology is the only "religion" I'm aware of that actually charges fees.

[toddmastria1]

PAYING for religion????? Sucker born every minute!!! Tax ALL RELIGIONS NOW!

[Melancholikerin]

It's great that they try to prevent other people from making such mistakes by sharing their experiences.

And She seems to be very reasonable, but some of His statements are a little much. Don't slag me off now, but i think it's plain wrong to compare the SS to Scientology in that way. Himmler and Eicke both didn't have a PhD, and a lot of intellectuals and artists were hunted; it was flee(,join) or die. Furthermore the most intelligent people i've met weren't involved in any kind of religion.

[AzBirdDog]

@Melancholikerin It's funny in your last sentence you wrote, Because at first sight of scientology for me, told me that it was brainwashing, and about money.

The smartest people that I know, do believe in religion whole heartedly.

Of course, these are people who don't need a book or a teacher to teach them.

Most people link "intelligence" with "PHD", And that's not even close to the case. A PHD can be bought with time and money. True intelligence is already there and can't be purchased.

[TheAsfaloth]

Glad he is out but I don't feel sorry for him, he blew through $125,000 on religion crap, I feel sorry for his wife and children if his actions affected their futures.

[davidoqzo]

A couple of suckers!

[karlkarlkarl1234]

These guys should've sued them for fraud.

[darthspeaks]

He's right - if was put into college and spent the money he did he would have ended up with 3 doctorates. Now he has a doctorate in L Ron's brain cum.

[darthspeaks]

He's right - if was put into college and spent the money he did he would have ended up with 3 doctorates. Now he has a doctorate in L Ron's brain cum.

[globe255]

She seems to be a lot more reasonable than he is (sorry), but well maybe he will listen a bit more to her now. If he doesnt let her make the logical decisions for them both in the future, he will continue to make bad decisions, i hope he will understand that.

[tinchoguitar5]

spend 20.000 usd to get an ordinary lie-detector and tons of bs seems so idiot that i can t believe somebody buy it.

[LinkBlink]

A Narcoleptic $cientologist?

[jmm1233]

reminds me of the weight watchers club

serious it one big corporate scam to prey on peoples problems and fears , like health insurance

[hydrophonicspace]

Hubbard did it. He is OT9. He has exteriorized and created a society that he can control. There is an end to the bridge, and Ron reached it!

[AlRasuwl]

Yes, there is an end to the bridge, it is called "death" :-)

[PelleSansIos]

Oh yes, you are right. The end of the bridge also means empty bank accounts.....

[core1976scotland]

Yea lol,The promised land of the gutter.

[msceriseNoir]

death, insanity , destitution.

[Farfallevendetta1234]

@AlRasuwl Quite.

[alemadrid22]

I think the free will is something so easily breakable for the scientologist's that it doesnt really mean that all that people who falls in their tricks and courses are stupid... they are just very trained thieves... and the funniest part is that they dont even know that what they are doing is just steal, freedom, money and lives... this is a smart weapon... and the richer keep getting richer... and the others... are just fucked... like any other scam... but this is evil they want it all...

[DeadalusX]

what shit are you talking about?

[derrike50]

It's hard to get anything good out of pure EVIL !!!

[silbitnuoc]

...unless you are evil.

[jdtrickster4]

This happens a lot in $cn. It's actually quite typical. $cn has a high turnover, like a McDonald's restaurant with their employees. But McDonald's employees don't pay the franchise thousands of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's see you later...oh btw, you're declared an SP or PTS or whatever. $cn is a $cam!!!

[Squabbles10]

This bloke keeps saying "im not saying anything bad about it", then what is he saying ?

OFF THE BONGS OLD FOLKS !!!

You both need a good Fuck. Stop the whinging, have a kiss andd cuddle then fuck like rabbits !!!

Keep the tape running . . . .

[harveydents]

I know as a buddhist I am constantly striving for enlightenment for me and for all sentient beings on earth, and I know it might take 80 years or may never happen, but the blessed thing about Buddhism even though you never finish learning about yourself and balance and truth and enlightment it also DOESNT COST YOU A PENNY!

[benjammin420420]

couldntve said it any better

[Divinenite]

True, a righteous religion/faith that offers salvation shouldn't cost you a penny.

[responsemedia]

Hilarious. 'Sunshine Rundown" lol more like financial rundown

[998987987698765]

No I didn't miss your intent at all. I will restate...try to get married, baptized or have a funeral with out paying. You can't. All religions charge for service.This is weather the experience was meaningful or not. Churches do charge for services.You might not have $ to pay the bill but someone is.

[barrusDemonPlucker]

NO, you don't pay to get a baptized; the money for marriage doesn't go to the church it goes to the government. And funerals most of the funds go to the funeral home which is a secular service.

And the daily survives and the message is free. And that is the point the information is free, in Scientology the message isn't free you have to pay for it unlike every other true religion.

For a real religion all you need is a holy text(which you can usually get for free) and some time

[998987987698765]

You live in a fantasy world...but I guess it's alright as it's your fantasy. Sorry if I cut across that and tried to get you to look at the facts of life. Nothing is free.

[barrusDemonPlucker]

But your still missing the root point of intent.

True religions are about the message not making a profit unlike Scientology. Just as libraries about the literature and a bookstore is trying to make a profit.

[998987987698765]

Well......OK. I didn't know that was the point. I felt the point you were trying to make was that religion, to be a real, true religion should be totally free and things are not totally free. Religions do want and expect contributions from the members. Libraries are supported by the government. So our tax dollars put them there. Religion gets no such support so must rely on the members.

[moparmonster1965]

You obviously don't know anything about Mormonism, then.

[fzappa007]

apples and oranges

[bucker141]

i really don't get having to pay for a religious experience...i mean the catholic church had bribed to get into heaven 600 years ago but i am under no pressure in any way from God to pay the church to get something out of it on sundays.

[998987987698765]

Right...try and have a service in the Catholic church without paying. Try to get married without paying or have a baptismal...or a funeral service at no cost. What planet are you on???

[bucker141]

actually i never pay a cent in church for anything, if i have  a couple bucks left over at the end of the week i might donate it in service but like i said before, which you seemed to have glossed over, i feel no pressure or requirement to pay any amount of money for my meaningful experience

[encliticcopula]

Though I am not a huge fan of organized religion, at least the Catholic Church doesn't charge you thousands of dollars to find out who Jesus was!

[TheCelticNinja]

Indeed. Sure, something in Scientology -might- help you. But if you want something that -might- help you, isn't it better to go with something that doesn't cost thousands of dollars?

[lejink]

think from the point of view of someone with countless millions of dollars. all other religion requires u to look deep within yourself and improve your life, live without sin, help other people. but scientology just requires u 2 cut a cheque and happyness is yours- thats what they tell u. give me 50,000$ and ull reach eternal happyness! once uv put all ur money into it its hard 2 accept it was a mistake.. like u dont want to admit u got ripped off after buying a lemon car.. sad really

[moparmonster1965]

No, they charge you for forgiveness of sins, instead. It's called penance.

[grimythag]

LOL i downloaded scientologists "sacred" texts online.... pretty much everything hubbard ever wrote.

[juice797]

No wonder MMORPGS are so successful. They copied scientology's "leveling" system.

[killslay]

this was the first thing i thought when i heard them talk about it

[TimeShift00]

I figured out Scientology. In order to get through, you need epic self-determinism. That's it. Quote me on that, I hope I make it lol.

[Nabo00o]

There is no reason to why the shuldn't.

They aren't above the rest of the society.

[Valinoghtorklax]

Hell, they should probably pay MORE taxes!

[Sparkanoid1]

WIKILEAK DOT ORG is where you can download many secret Scientology documentations for free. I read the super power rundown last night and it is insane. It also includes the 100 child security questions for 6-12 year olds.

[anavas]

that site doesn't have anything I could find

[Sparkanoid1]

The ones in Texas now are thanks to Anonymous.

[voyzovrezon]

Fascinating. This is why Hubbard wanted celebrities and a celebrity center---lots of money! And there are a lot of suckers with money.

[xenubie]

Damn it! Stop calling it Technology, call it "98% Crap".

[panasonic5000]

the woman looks all stressed out

scientology fucks you up

[Clausfarre]

He's got the perfect wife. She knows when to keep her mouth shut!

I'm kidding!

[JODIMA101FHYR]

DUH! I'm talking about Scientology being a scam and that it sounds like a Human Resourse Agency not a church. They should be paying taxes.

[WeAreCalledLegion]

This is a very good run down of how scientology defrauds people. lolparty-games. That's another way of saying WE CAN"T REALLY DO WHAT WE SAY WE CAN.

[JODIMA101FHYR]

I think this is a "Human Resource Agency", not a church...this is BS...they are able to skip paying taxes...but why? Why hasn't there been any uproar in the government or from a watchgroup agency...I don't get this.

[WeAreCalledLegion]

They're probably paying off key members of the goverment.

[zero2kx]

It just boggles my mind how the Co$ is still able to operate tax free or at all for that fact in the US in this day and age after all these stories have come out. This is a blatant bait and switch operation while stealing millions away from people. I realize people do give the money willingly but you have agree there is some shady brainwashing and false promises going on here.

[takerdust]

I love how CO$ use the term "technology" all the time. Its just a bunch of bullshit.

[snowfan]

LOL ..... I was thinking the same thing before I read your post. technology, technology, technology, technology. And really it's bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit...

[Alprazolam]

Don't feel sorry for him. I do feel sorry for his wife she married Mr. Gullible. I bet you a car salesman could sell him a car at sticker price...

[takerdust]

What a maroon.

[chanologyASSIST]

nah, he thought he was helping his family.

the bigger misnomer here is chiropractic!

its the scientology of the medical field!

jk

[WeAreCalledLegion]

Not all chiro is fraudulent. I think this man is the type that helps rehabilitate muscles and joints after injuries.

[john262]

You idiot, it's the scientology that he's saying is fraudulent.

[Superphilipp]

Don't blame the victim.

[dopehousex3]

Scientology finds weak prey and then suckes them dry.Dont really feel sorry for them.

[newbirth35]

Where are parts 3 and 4?

[whois1957]

This part of Scientology's "crimes" don't really arouse much sympathy to me. Sort of like "predatory lending".  Yes, not the most charitable of acts, but these predators only get very willing prey.

[putertink]

They seem to count on people expecting "the grass to be greener on the other side" and to pay for that. Scientology has a very evil side.

[JODIMA101FHYR]

So what about a poor person....

[FactChecca]

Poor people are not welcome in the "church" of scientology.

[4theLulzzz]

poor people in the cult are known as "staff". they have to sign a contract before they can become staff, either 2 1/2 years, or 5 years. they work up to 80 hours a week or more at their orgs, to cover the costs of their courses and auditing. since what they are getting in return for their labor is entirely worthless outside $cinetology, they are basically slaves of the cult.

[BurtBenz]

In their own words, Scientology is all about "making ABLE people more able". They don't waste time on weak people with no money.