@TheMystic2100 1) in the past everyone was enslaved by other races included whites. 2) blacks sold their own slaves to europeans and arabs. 3) In multiracial countries blacks commit a massive number of violent crimes against whites and therefore I don't underrstand what forgiveness you're talking about.
@AVIATIO It is very foolish to claim fraternity based upon ethnicity. The gene pool of Europe is so mixed it makes the idea of categorizing identities absurd. What about the Greeks. do you think they are Italian because the Latin Legions were all over Greece? Greeks, Italians, Germans, Cetls, Slavs, Ilyrians, and Iberians- all Aryans(Indo-Europeans) entered into a Europe that was heavily inhabited by non-Aryans and mixed with them over time. And since then the blood-lines kept mxing.
There were never too many legionaries in Greece to begin with so that Greek bloodlines might have been mixed with Italian peoples. Interbreeding usually tends to occur whenever mass migrations by one people to a land of another takes place, where the migrating people end up adopting the culture and customs of the majority culture.
The Greeks who settled Sicily over 2000 years ago would have been subjected to this tendency.
Hey, this is the first time I have read a statement here that was historically accurate. !00% correct! All the current Euro languages are the tongues of Aryans, all who came, as you said, and mixed with non-Aryans. The only language today spoken in Europe that is not Aryan is the Basque language, which is the oldest language in Europe, because it was spoken since before the Aryans got there. Hahaha...Albanians are Greeks are Aryans.
@DieserBenuterIstCool hahahah yes we are soooo much,I want to be greek pleasebut ihave white skin with hazel eyes will i pass,?In not real hairy to,,And so is most of albanians there share the same as me,,please can i be greek do i have to stick my dick in another man,I dont know if i can,,hhehehe
ΠΑΛΙΟ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ ΤΟΥ ΚΩΛΟΥ, ΔΕΝ ΠΑΣ ΝΑ ΓΑΜΗΘΗΣ ΡΕ ΕΘΝΙΚΙΣΤΗ ΧΟΙΡΕ!! ΒΑΛΕ ΦΕΛΛΟ ΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΚΩΛΟ ΣΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΑΪΝΤΕ ΓΙΑ ΥΠΝΟ ΓΡΗΦΟΡΑ, ΓΑΜΩ ΤΗΝ ΠΟΡΝΗ ΤΗΝ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ ΓΑΜΩ, ΕΙΣΤΕ ΟΛΟΙ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ ΠΟΥΤΣΟ ΜΑΣ ΡΕ!!!
@YourSisterIsMyWhore Jo pse ju nuk e botës një nder dhe shko vrasin veten ... Ju grekët janë gypsys.you vjedhin historinë nga të tjerët çdo gjë Toka .. Tani shqiptarët kanë filluar të kuptoj se gënjeshtra dhe propagandë,,
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@AVIATIO As you can see greeks write diffrent to arvanties and albanians,,,lol idiot greeks ahve no idea.or any idea with albanians and there language MY language is older than yours,,
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@ktm066 so before you insult me with the bullshit of greek myths and history just step back and think what many ancient writers wrote,,we albanians have been here for many tousand yrs..use were in asia minor while we were here.
ΠΑΛΙΟ ΠΟΡΝΗ ΤΟΥ ΚΩΛΟΥ ΑΪΝΤΕ ΓΙΑ ΥΠΝΟ ΚΑΙ ΠΗΓΑΙΝΕ ΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΔΙΑΒΟΛΟ ΜΩΡΗ ΚΑΤΣΑΡΙΔΑ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΜΑΣ ΚΑΛΕΙΣ ΕΜΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΟΥΣ, ΟΥΣΤ ΡΕ ΕΝΤΟΜO.... ΓΑΜΙΕΤΑΙ Ο ΒΟΥΡΚΟΣ Ο ΟΠΟΙΟΣ ΛΕΓΕΤΑΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ!!!!
Hey jackass, the general consensus of historians is that the Macedonians were descended from the Greek tribe of Dorians, who colonized what is Macedonia over 3,000 years ago....
And Athena is NOT Albanian, moron. The only gypsies here are you cockroaches that every one hates in the Balkans, and we all know the truth that your language is 85% artificial borrowed from Greek, Latin and Turkish while your people were brought over here by the Ottomans from Azerbaijan... GO BACK CHIMPS
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@AVIATIO as for 85% borrowed languages lmao.....as i said greeks it hurts use to know that we are a older people than you.how can we borrow things from use when use dont have them,,Tell me these words AFIS fis,apa,These wre found on a stone in greece on tablet it is albanian....you have no idea about use,,And if you want to go there with turks and arabs..
@AVIATIO I just read your comments and I commented on Macedonian identity to Greeks before who are in denial about it. Firs of all, they are Greek, and I do not doubt the Dorians originated from that stock: The Dorian dialect was very close to the dialect of Macedonian Greek. And Dorians had many of the "primitive" customs that were associated with the Macedonians(Classical Greeks mocked them as hillbillies!). Important to know: many Ilyrians were incorporated into the Macedonian armny.
@bubbajackful Good, I'm glad that you know some history unlike 99% of YT...but I don't trust you by your word alone, to be frank. I want to see your sources which say that all European races are bastardized and mixed....
In my opinion, you're doubtlessly wrong. There are genetic variations from nation to nation--some thing which can be confirmed by genetic testing, or even by visiting each nation. For example, Greeks don't look like Slavs, Albanians can have different facial features, etc.
@AVIATIO Continued Part two: Ilyrians were renowned as great warriors on horseback. Philip and Alexander were well aware of this and respected their abilities. This is why they are absorbed into the Macedonian army(fully integrated by Alexander's time). Many ilyrians lived in close proximity to the Greeks there and there was considerable intermarriage of time there. Macedonians came to be very mixed. All Greeks, as all Euopeans were mixed with non-European peoples, who were in Europe first.
Alexander, Philip and the Macedonians employed all sorts of Balkan races in their armies. However, that alone does not go to say that all the races began interbreeding incessantly are now all mixed.... That is simply asinine to assert. Look at how members of different cultures interact today. Interbreeding happens without a doubt, but it is not uncontrollable as you seem to think.
@ktm066 the word adopted PELASGIANS writing NOT GREEKS,,,and you call me a dumb shit monkey.lol learn what you so called ancient writers wrote dick head,
And you want me to learn history from greeks,LMAO the most propaganda country in the fucking world you have to be joking..I have read things what homer and other wrote,They clearly say that use are not pelasgians,,They siad they spoke a diffrent language,,Isnt it funny how we have hundreds of pelasgian words in our language that use dont have and dont know what they mean...
@AVIATIO ITS ARBRESHEbahahah and you say they are greek?BABAH its also arvantie...baabahahh dick head,,I didnt say siclilians are albanian i just saying that there is some albaniasn there.YOU are the one who are saying they are greeks,,
What the fuck does Aberesh have to do with this video, Albo piece of shit?? This video is about Sicily, dumbass, that area was heavily colonized by Greeks in ancient times. Learn history, monkey.
@AVIATIO SO please dont insult me and my beautiful old culture that you also have..Go insult someone else..AND feel free to call me turk or gypsy or monkey or what ever you want,It still doesnt change the fact that im still albanian and you and ARBRESHES,,god bless Italia for not brainwashing our brothers of italia,,,
@AVIATIO I dont have to spread lies about anything,And when it comes to ALBANIANS living in sicily,,So before you insult me ARVANTIE take a good look at the shit that has been filled in your head,,YOU ALSO ARE ALBANIAN,,
Greeks are not Albanians, jack ass, and if I were an Albanian, I would have committed suicide a long time ago. Hell, you probably have more Greek DNA than you think.... Greeks have been fucking Albanians for generations, there were even Greek colonies on Albania for centuries, you Greek-spermed kid.
FUCK ALBANIA, every time that I take a shit, I think of YOU.
@AVIATIO so you are saying arvanties are greeks?Thats fine when you do take that shit the only reason why you are thinking of me is because i filled your gay arse with my big albanian cock,,and filled it with CUM..so you will be thinking gee he had a big cock,,and spend the rest of the day shitting out my cum,,
@AVIATIO you didnt even know what i wrote before lol its is arbresh and arvantie language,And i can understand it because it is the same as my language,SO how can arvanties be greek??AND arbreshes??PLEASE EXPLAIN you dumb shit..
Idiot, the Arvanites were and are still Greek. Just because they speak some language similar to modern Albanian is not very conclusive of Albanian DNA. In fact, most Arvanites already spoke Greek also...as many Albanians did. And let's not forget, according to studies of the University of Stanford and Italy, Albanians have *A LOT* of Greek DNA! Learn history, monkey, the land of modern Albania had been colonized by Greeks more than 2,000 years ago! You are all sperm of Greeks....
@AVIATIO yes you are right, BUT the fact is that albanians and kosova albanians have more EV-13 than what greeks have,,So this means you have ALBANIAN DNA..These study are from standfor.Oxford..And arvanties are albanian you stupid shit 6million people speak there language and they are all albanian,,dumb shit.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Albanian DNA.... And just who exactly made that study? The University of Albania?? XD
As I already said fuckface, the University of Stanford and of Italy have concluded that Greek DNA-markers are all over the Balkans, especially in Albania because of its nearness. Not surprisingly since Greeks had colonies in Albania and had dominated the region for centuries.... YOU ARE GREEK SPERM BITCH
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@AVIATIO the highest E3b1a variance is among Apulians, Greeks, and Macedonians, and the highest frequency of the cluster is among Albanians, Macedonians,and Greeks (table 1)." If you make a total % of albanians of albania and albanians of kosovo all Albanians have the max Erb1-a freq
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@AVIATIO over 30 countrys took part i this ..oxford italia,germany croatia,shitty serbia,usa,and may more,,You see you have SOME OF OUR DNA ,ILL SHOW YOU.More like when use arrived we gave you our sperm,,,
@AVIATIO The ARBRESHES OF sicily are albanian so if you are talking about THEM why dont you go and ask them if they are greek..They are not silly to fall for the bullshit lies greeks have done to arvanties,,so dont tell me they are greek because I am friends with many arbreshes who say they are albanian,,so fuck you and your propaganda shit.
@AVIATIO tell me greek can you understand this .Áti jinë çë je në qiell, shejtëruarkloftë embri jít...járthshit rregjëria jóte; ubëftë vullimi jít,....si në qiell, ashtú në dhé;...bukën tënë të përditshme ena neve sòt;....This is arbreshe They are from southern italia and they are albanians and they speak my language...
ALLA TELOS PANTON THA SOU PO....AN TO 79 EINAI TO ETOS GENNISIS SOY, TOTE O PITSIRIKAS EISAI ESY....
LES KANAS ELLHNAS PITSIRIKAS NA GNORIZEI TON GIORGO KASTRIOTI POU OI ALBANOI TON THEOROYN ALBANO ETHNIKO HROA H' LES KANAS PITSIRIKAS NA KSEREI TOUS ILLYRIOYS?KAI OI ITALOI SYMFONOYN XORIS NA TO PSAXNOYN?...LES?
@POTIS1 If the Minoans did not speak Greek then what does that tell you? How could they be Greek if they did not speak the language? You can be proud of Minoans as a part of Greek history, but they were not Greek and where there before Greeks. All universities teach this in USA, and also in Great Britain. Greeks who settled in Crete absorbed the much of the culture of the Minoans. Also, cycladic culture was not Greek either. Was part of MInoan culture. Akrotiri was not Greek.
if MINOANS CAME FROM ASIA MINOR-ANATOLIA...THEN THEY ARE GREEKS...FOR SURE!
GREEK POPULATIONS BEGAN SETTLEMENT FROM THERE.
ANY WAY...YOURE RIGHT...WE AGREE IN GENERAL ABOUT GREEKS EXCEPT THOSE 2 POINTS OF MINOANS AND CYCLADES...YOU HAVE YOUR OPPINION...I HAVE MINE ...ENOUGH MEN AGREE WITH YOU AND ENOGH MEN WITH ME...THE EVIDENCES ARE FRAGMENTS AND NOT ENOUGH SO LET IT BE... ITS OK...AND THANK YOU FOR BEING FAN OF GREEK CIVILLIZATION...I APRECIATED THIS.
@POTIS1 Also, Greeks are not pure Greeks anymore and have not been pure Greek since they entered Greece in 1850BC. They bred with the native peoples who were living in Greece when they got there. This was the pattern for all Indo-European peoples in Europe: they bred with the populations that were there when they arrived. Greek culture absorbed much from the cultures of the Near East: ie: Anatolia, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Crete. I hope the universities in Greece update their knowledge.
@POTIS1 Also, there is surely an Italian strain in the Greek population. There were many Italians in Greece during the Roman Age: many Roman troops and merchants ; and many Italians studied in Athens as well as other Greek universities. You believe Minoans were Greek because you want to believe it. Do you want truth? Then research it in the books that people use in the universities to study Greek culture. If you like, I can send you a list.
@demimond11 ONE MORE....''History of Greece .... This article is part of a series Greek Bronze Age Helladic civilization Cycladic civilization Minoan civilization Mycenaean civilization Ancient Greece Greek Dark Ages Archaic Greece Classical Greece Hellenistic Greece Roman Greece Medieval Greece Byzantine Greece Frankish and Latin states Ottoman Greece Modern Greece ''. THIS IS HISTORY OF GREECE....SORRY...SAD BUT TRUE MY FRIEND.
I DONT BELIEVE...ONLY ME THAT MINOANS WAS GREEKS....THERE MUCH MORE PEOPLE NON GREEKS THAT BELIEVE THAT AND WROTE IT ON A PAPER THROUGH YEARS.
FOR EXAMPLE...'' But we know now that Greek civilization began at least a millenium before the Age of Athens and almost eight hundred years before Homer. It began off the mainland of Greece, in the Aegean Sea, in the palaces of the bureaucrat-kings of Minoa.'' Richard Hooker.
@POTIS1 Linear A was written in Minoan; Linear B in Mycenaen Greek. The Greeks who invaded Crete learned the writing technique from the Minoans and began using it. This is not my opinion, POTIS. This is standard historical fact that is taught about Minoan culture and Mycenaen Greek culture. Your opinions are directly calling PHD historians of Greek history as misinformed and idiots. Do you hear yourself? Do you know how you would sound to people who are professionaly educated on the subject
@POTIS1 Answer: Greeks arrived in Crete around 1400BC. As I said, they used the Minoan script to write their language. Greek culture absorbed a great deal of Minoan culture. Scholars know the Minoans were not Greek because the MInoan language is no Greek and not "proto-Greek" as you say because scholars also know that it is not even Indo-European, which the the language family Greek belongs to. A great deal of MInoan culture underlies Greek culture.
@demimond11 EXPLAIN ME THIS FRO MWIKI.....''List of Ancient Greek tribes.... Spartans Macedonians Epirotes Locrians Cretans Rhodians Aetolians CRETANS(descendants of MINOANS)?? HOW CRETANS ARE A GREEK TRIBE WHEN THERE ANCESTORS (MINOANS) ARE NOT??
WIKI....''History of Greece.........One of the earliest civilizations to appear around Greece was the Minoan civilization in Crete, which lasted from about 2700 (Early Minoan) BC to 1450 BC.
Little specific information is known about the Minoans (even the name is a modern appellation, from Minos, the legendary king of Crete).''
THE INFORMATIONS ARE SO.....LITTLE...BUT PROFESSORS...KNOWS THAT MINOAN ARE NOT GREEKS...
@demimond11 Also, Minoans and other Anatolian populations who settled in the Aegean and mainland Greece were there sine the beginning of the Bronze Age and the Greeks did not arrive until about 1850BC. Greeks are not a pure race; Europeans in general are not pure. You speak Greek but you are not all Greek: you are mixed with the races of people who lived in Greece before Greeks arrived. Greek was the language of the conquering people who came there. You need to read the university books.
@POTIS1 "Pelasgians" was a term that the ancient Greeks used to call the native peoples living in Greece before the Greeks arrived in Greece. As I told you, many aspects of Minoan culture were absorbed by the Greeks- just the same way that many Italians(Romans, ie) absorbed many aspects of Greek culture. Why are so many scenes of Greek mythology depicted on Roman vases? Doesn't mean the Romans were Greek, Potsy. Does it ?
YOUR WRONG IS THAT YOU BEGAN THE GREEK HISTORY FROM MYCINES...WHEN THE GREEK CYCLADIC CIVILLIZATION EXISTS 1500 YEARS BEFORE THEM...
''The culture of mainland Greece contemporary with Cycladic culture is termed Helladic.Excavations at Knossos on Crete reveal an influence of Cycladic civilization upon Knossos in the period 3400 BC to 2000 BC as evidenced from pottery finds at Knossos''.
@POTIS1 Also, Cretans are listed among the tribes of Hellas in Homer because they were Cretan Greeks. Homer's war at Troy took place around 1240BC and by that time the Greeks had already controlled Crete for almost a few hundred years. Everything I tell you is not opinion. It is all learned from the university lectures. I have taken many courses on ancient Greek and Roman culture.
@POTIS1 Minoans WERE NOT GREEKS!. Don't depend on Wiki. If you want to read an encyclopedia, go to the library and use the Britannica. Minoan history has become a part of Greek history but they were not Greek. Why do you persist with believing something that is not true? And you make no effort to unveil the truth, only to defend something you want to believe even though you don't really know if it may not be true. When I offer you books you don't want them. You are living a fantasy.
@POTIS1 There is not one scholar who believes that the Minoans were Greek. If you do not believe in what is taught at the universities about the Greeks, then you are making yourself out to be very foolish. Nobody can take you seriously. If you really want to learn, then make an effort to understand. Find the books that are used to teach Greek history.
@POTIS1 Cycladic culture was all apart of Minoan culture: Santorini, Akrotiri, etc. They were all apart of Anatolian civilization. The Mycenaens were among the first Greeks in Greece. Mycenaean civilization was the first Greek civilization and it was heavily influenced by Minoan culture. NO Greeks in Greece before about 1850BC. The pre-Greek peoples in Greece came from Anatolia. All in the Aegean were from Anatolia. Historical fact.
SEND me titles of books you told me or on line infos better (so i can read them, cause books are difficult for me to find them).
WHICH COUNTRY IS YOUR ORIGIN?
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT VIMANAS FROM INDIA and the GREEK CREATORS of them?
How do youu explain that EGYPTIAN PRIEST TOLD TO PLATO (TIMAIOS) THAT ATHENIANS FOUGHT ATLANTIANS 9.000 BEFORE HIS AGE?(600 BC)! MEANS 9600 BC OF ATHENIANS-ATLANTIANS FIGHT!!
HOW TALOS ROBOT AND WHAT YEAR DID HE FLEW ABOVE CRETE?
WHAT YEAR HERCULES FOUNDED AND BAPTIZED GIBRALTAR (HERACLEAS COLUMNS)?
WHAT YEAR DIONYSOS MADE HIS WORLD TOUR??
WHAT YEAR DID ARGONAUTS FLEW WITH ARGO SHIP?
WHAT YEAR DID THE HALF PLANET TOOK GREEK NAMES?
FOR EXAMPLE ARCTICA AND ANTARCTICA, ATLANTIC OCEAN, EUROPE, PHILLIPINES, MELANISIA, POLYNESIA, BALTIC SEA,ERYTHRA SEA, PERSIA,GEORGIA,INDIA,MARSEILLE,CORSICA,SICELIA,ANATOLIA & 1000S ETC WHAT YEAR AND WHY HAVE GREEK NAMES?
@POTIS1 I will prepare a list of books you should read. You need it. I am degreed from Berkley University in California. Nobody knows anything about Greeks before 1850BC. What is the level of your education? Also, if you are from Greece, I can't believe that they did such a bad job educating you about Greek culture. You must be from the mountains in Arcadia. You sound like Zorba. Professor Kojack.
@POTIS1 Yes, some people have said that Macedonians were originally not a Greek people but were absorbed by Hellenic culture by 5th century BC. My university taught that they were Greek and that their dialect was treated by ancient grammarians as a Greek dialect. However, by the time of Alexander, they were mixing with llyrians. The Greeks did not have any high culture until the Mycenean period. The Mycenian civilization was the first Greek civilization, but it was based on MInoan(not Greeks)
@demimond11 I understand your love for you ancestral culture, but you have no training in it, and you are unread in the field. You are not qualified to talk about ancient Greek culture. Any unlettered man who challenges the knowledge of professors on the subject is foolish. Greeks take pride in the beauty of Minoan culture, but even Greek professors in Greece know Minoans were not a Greek speaking people, but were a different ethnic group altogether. Greeks learned high culture from them.
@demimond11 WOWOWOW...WAIT A MINUTE! I DIDNT SAID THAT MINOANS WAS GREEK SPEAKING! I SAID IT WAS GREEKS! TODAY SOME GREEK-ARVANITES ARE NOT SPEAKING GREEK LANGUAGE BUT...THEY ARE GREEKS!! TRY TO UNDERSTAND MY FRIEND! IN MY UNIVERCITY of PATRAS (dept. of ATHENS) they tought me that MINOANS and CYCLADITES was GREEKS. I RESPECT YOUR OBJECTIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO RESPECT MINES TOO! WE ARE DOING DIALOGUE AND NOT MONOLOGUE. THE EVIDENCES OF THOSE CIVS ARE SO LITTLE THAT YOU CANT BE SO SURE!
EVEN IF ONE DAY ITLL PROVED THAT YOURE RIGHT AND MINOANS WASNT GREEKS (today..NO one can prove it)...EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...THIS CIVILLIZATION, BELONGS TO GREEK HISTORY...LIKE CYCLADES.
ITS NOT BELONG TO TURKISH OR SLAV OR INDIA OR USA HISTORY.
THIS CHAPTER OF THOSE CIVS YOU CAN READ IT ONLY IN GREEK HISTORY AND MYTHISTORY.....RIGHT MY FRIEND???
ONE UNIVERCITY SAID THE ''ONE'' THE OTHER SAID ''SOMETHING ELSE''.
MACEDONIANS FOR BERCLEY ARE GREEKS AND FOR OXFORD ARE NOT FOR EXAMPLE!
THE SCIENTS CANNOT AGREE WITH THEMSELVES...WHY DO I HAVE TO BELIEVE THEM?
WHY DONT YOU ANSWERED ME HOW THE ''APOLLONIAN DELPHIC REVERSED EPSILONS'' (white striped epsilon in BLUE backround...JUST LIKE THE BLUE AND WHITE OF THE TODAY HELLAS FLAG...LUCKILLY?I DONT KNOW!)ARE BEHIND THE MINOAN THRONE (photo you can see anywhere!!)
@POTIS1 Anyway, even if I send you the list of books to read, you will not accept what they say because you are not interested in researching for truth, but only for protecting your mythological beliefs about Greek history. However, the bottom line is that the Greeks do have a great culture to appreciate. We agree on this point and I am a big fan of ancient Greek and Roman culture. We are arguing over the errors of your impressions of origins.
@POTIS1 Well, Greek civilization had its first flowering in the Mycenean period, about 1500BC and lasted down to the time of Troy. Homer came around 750BC(aprox) and then the prot-classical period of the 6th century, with Philosophy first appearing in Miletus. Listen, I was talking to a crazy black on youtube who is saying that philosophy was invented by "black Greeks" in Turkey. He said that the Greeks stole the black culture of Africa. This is what many blacks believe now.
YEAH...RIGHT...I HAD HEARD MONKEYS (SLAVS) FROM MONKEYDONIA TO TELL ME (IN THEIR MOTHER LANGUAGE...BULGARIAN)THAT THEY RE MACEDONIANS AND MACEDONIANS NEVER WAS GREEKS AND GREEK ORIGINS ARE FROM AFRICA(ETHIOPIA)...SUB-SAHARANS...
YEAH SURE...AND WHEN WE (THE BLACKS GREEKS) PASSED THE MEDDITERANEAN FROM AFRICA, WE TOOK A BRUSH AND WE PAINTED OUR ASSES WHITE...AS THE YEARS PASSED, WE BRUSHED MORE AND MORE PARTS OF OUR BODY...THATS NOW WHY WE ARE WHITE!!!
@POTIS1 Well, Alexander was not llyrian. He was Greek. Slavs in Macedonia the country have nothing to do with ancient Greek Macedonians.....Hehehe...I like to listen to the blacks talk about history: they are very funny and their theories sound like a Star Trek Movie. Blacks in USA have a deeply damaged psyche and are trying to build self-esteem for themselves, so they will believe any theory that offers them the illusion of accomplishment. All races know they are a loser people.
@demimond11 Hey. I am White Southern Italian. Why do you say Blacks are a 'loser people'. They were raped by racism, stripped of there things and shipped like animals when they are equal human beings. Judge a person by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin. Black people have been and are still being treated like crap by racist morons. The fact they have been so forgiving is a testament to how good black people are. Why do you want only one colour in a garden?
Well, it is true. Blacks desperately try to keep alive their image of being a victimized people It is to their advantage. They are a loser race. Look at Africa! Black tribes there wared among themselves, murdered, raped and enslaved other black tribes. They then sold them to the Arabs, who also murdered and raped and then sold the blacks they bought to the Whites. This is the story of humankind. Blacks are no box of chocolates.
@halandreos79 That is very accurate. The peoples are so mixed now and their cultures are so mixed that it is foolish to base claims of ethnic or racial achievement on our "personal" ancestry, one that we can't even fully know. Foolish to justify our contemporary pride on some notion of a pure ancestral heritage that may be completely different from the actual truth. Your comment is well taken and wise.
@POTIS1 Hi. Sorry late with source but I had to look through my books for it. Try J.B. Bury: A History of Greece(pages670 to 675). His is one of the first standard texts on Greek history. He states: Macedonian Greeks were united with llyrian tribes in the hills around coastal Macedon by Philip. He conquered, then absorbed them into his army. Under Alexander these llyrians and Greek Macedonians merged to form Macedonian people. This is standard historical fact.
@POTIS1 Potis, The source I quoted you is a highly respected historian of ancient Greek history. He is from Cambridge university. What he wrote is standard historical fact about Macedonia. Illyrians in the hills of Macedonia were Macedonian since the time of Philip. Forget Mythology: it is not history. You are talking in an irrational manner. Your hatred for Albanians and llyrians makes no sense and is motivated by wild emotion- not science. You say one thing and history says another.
@POTIS1 There is usually some basis or kernel of truth underlying a myth but mythology also has much in it that is invented. Yes Troy was a legend at one time. So was Minos. Then it was discovered that Minos was not Greek: he was Minoan and he Athenian Greeks had to pay him tribute every year: they sent young men and women to him so he could sacrifice them to the bull god. Maybe Thesius defeated Minos and freed Athens from the tribute.
@POTIS1 Listen. You have no grasp of Greek culture, my friend. I have taken courses in Greek history at the University. Minoans were not Greeks. When Greeks entered Greece around 1850BC there were many non-Greek peoples there. Minoans are or Anatolian stock. The Greeks learned from them. Santorini and Crete were decimated by volcanic eruption about 1400BC and then the Greeks on the mainland were able to invade Crete. From then on Crete became Greek speaking. Minoans were not Greeks.
@POTIS1 Part 11: Archeologists unearthed two forms of Minoan writing: one called Linear A and one called Linear B. One is not deciphered because it was written in the original Minoan language and the other, Linear B, was written in Greek. The Greeks of that time who invaded Crete and took over the Minoan island learned about writing Minoan script from the Minoans. Also, Greeks are not pure race. There are no pure races in Europe, meaning they are mixed with the peoples they conquered. Fact.
@POTIS1 If you know your history well you would know that between 2000BC and 1500BC was the Minoan civilization(not a Greek culture). After the Greeks were settled in Greece since 1850BC and began learning from the Anatolian cultures in Greece that were influenced by the Minoans, they spun off there own civilization which was called Mycenaen civilization. Agamemnon, Minolaos, of the time of Troy were Mycenaen Greeks. All Aryans in Europe(Greeks too) mixed in with native peoples. This is fact.
''COME HERE GRANDPA...I WANNA SHOW YOU YOUR FIELDS''....
YOU GONNA LEARN TO A GREEK...A GREEK HISTORY?
OH MAN...NICE JOKE!
WELL ANYWAY...IF YOU KNOW BETTER HISTORY YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT MINOAN CIVILLIZATION BEGAN 3650 BC AND NOT 2000 BC.''Though the two scripts – Linear A and B – share some of the same symbols, using the syllables associated with Linear B in Linear A writings produces words that are unrelated to any known language.''
@POTIS1 Linear A is an unknown language because it was Minoan and as of yet not deciphered. The language on the tablets written in Linear B is Mycenaen Greek. Are you some kind of genius that you know more than the professors who are teaching Greek history at the universities? hehehe...300BC to 2000BC was the Bronze Age in Greece. Minoans and Anatolian peoples were there but high Aegean culture not started until about 2100 BC. Minoan civil peaked at 1500BC. I can educate you if you like.
@POTIS1 I can recommend many books for you to read that are used at the university. It seems that you are only interested arguing for some kind of propaganda of Greek history. You are trying to argue some wonderful picture of Greek history that did not exist. You do not do justice to Greek history or to Greeks by distorting its true history, as it is taught in universities. If you really loved your history, you would open your mind to learning.
WIKI...''The name Pelasgians (Greek: Pelasgoí) was used by some ancient Greek writers to refer to populations that preceded the Hellenes in Greece, "a hold-all term for any ancient, primitive and presumably autochthonous people in the Greek world.
Under that name survived in several locations of mainland Greece, Crete and other regions of the Aegean''.
@POTIS1 I have over 100 books here on ancient Greek and Roman history. My friend, you need to take history courses in ancient Greek and Roman history. If you like, I can recommend some standard books that are used at the university for teaching Greek and Roman history. You are speaking from your heart but have a very distorted notion of Greek history. There were peoples living in Greece and Crete and Aegean for thousands of years before Greeks arrived. Greeks came around 1850BC from the North
CONCLUSION IS THAT LINEAR B IS GREEK BUT LINEAR A (MINOAN) ...IS NOT GREEK?!?!?!!!
OH GOD....
IS LIKE WINDOWS 95 MADE IT BY MICROSOFT BUT WINDOWS 98 HAVE NOT ANY RELATION WITH WINDOWS 95 AND ...MICROSOFT...NEVER MADE THEM....APPLE MUST MADE THEM...HAHA.
NO MY FRIEND... I TOLD YOU ...EPSILON DELFIKO BEHIND THRONE OF MINOS IS THE KEY!
WIKI.....''In the 19th century, an Illyrian national identity became significant in Croatian nationalism. In Communist Albania, an Illyrian national identity also began to play a significant role in Albanian nationalism.''.
AS YOU CAN SEE...NATIONALISM IS THE CATALYST FOR EX-YUGOSLAVIANS AND ALBANIANS.
In Greek mythology, Illyrius was the son of Cadmus and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of the whole Illyrian people.[9] Illyrius had multiple sons (Encheleus, Autarieus, Dardanus, Maedus, Taulas and Perrhabeus) and daughters (Partho, Daortho, Dassaro and others). From these, sprang the Taulantii, Parthini, Dardani, Enchelaeae, Autariates, Dassaretae and the Daors.
@POTIS1 Albanians I don't know much about. I do know from my history course that the Macedonians incorporated illyrian tribes from the hills surrounding the coastal plains where they lived. Both Philip and Alexander absorbed these llyrians into the Macedonian state and in time they were one people. Macedonian were originally Greek but then at some point became mixed to a certain extant with llyrian blood. Fact. Macedonians from province in Greek are mixed people(llyrian and Greek blood.)
@stefanodef ....Greece doesnt want sicily or the region of south italy,..i said that south Italy and sicily have and share common history -roots! ...and DNA!
Rome owes everything to the Greek colonies in south italy,and mainland Greece.
And Italian Rennaisance to byzantine Greeks, or theEastern Roman Empire.
dont confuse people.....south italy was Romanized!
@halandreos79 The Italians are the babies of the Greeks. Although very unique, Italian culture is heavily Hellenized, and, in turn, so became Europe. There is a Greek genetic strain in the Italians of the South, however, remember, they, as all Europeans, are related peoples(Aryans/Indo-Europeans). And there are many aspects of culture in which the Italians surpassed the Greeks. You know, most educated Italians of then were bilingual: studied Greek and Latin at school. The Greeks were mentors.
@stefanodef However, you must not forget that the Modern Greeks don't have the same "stuff" as the ancients. Culturally, the modern Greeks are failures and in no way live up to their ancestors. It is a shame. The Italians were more pragmatic than the Greeks, who were more defined by academic/abstract idealism. Italian law is the basis for modern law(Roman Codus Juris Civilis). Greek church design(dome) derived from Italian Pantheon in Rome. Muslims took this from the Greeks.
NOW let me remind you some culture ID from ancient GREECE till TODAY.
WE had traitors from EFIALTIS till 1453 KERKOPORTA OPENER and todays our POLITICIANS who left SKOPIA to have the name ''MACEDONIA'' and use it...when ALL PLANET KNOWS that MACEDONIA and ALEXANDER THE GREAT was NOT SLAVOBULGAROS or ALBANIAN...BUT HELLINAS-GREEK!
Now...some GOOD CULTURE NEWS....
Do you know PAP TEST?
IS GREEK invention for VAGINA CANCER PREVENTION from DR. PAPANIKOLAOU in 20th CENTURY...
@POTIS1 Brother, you must read history. Macedonians, yes, were Greek; but Philip conquered the Illyrian geography next to Macedon because they were a warlike threat to him. Then en incorporated it into the Macedonian State, which then was mixed with Illyrians(Albanians). These Illyrians were great horse-mounted warriors and formed the backbone of Alexander's army. After the split in modern times, yes Slavs took over western Mace, incorporating Illyrian Macedonians. Macedonia was split.
@demimond11 OUPS! HISTORY MISTAKE! FIND ME PLEASE ONE....JUST ONE!...DOCUMENT THAT RELATE ILLYRIANS AND ALBANIANS AND ILL GIVE YOU 2 THAT RELATE SOME ILLYRIANS TRIBE WITH GREEKS! THE NAME FILOTAS? DOES TELLING SOMETHING??? ITS A GREEK NAME WRITTEN ON ILLYRIAN COIN WITH....GREEK LETTERS (FI-OMEGA ETC...)... WHAT is the COINAGE OF ILLYRIANS??? DRACHMA!!! WHAT IS THE COINAGE OF GREEKS TILL...2001 A.D???(BEFORE EURO CAME IN OUR LIFE??). YES! ITS DRACMHA!!! U KNOW ALBANIAN NATIONALISM?
@POTIS1 Do not let national pride blind you to historical fact, Potis! Those llyrians living west of Macedonia were defeated by Philip of Macedon and then the map of Macedon changed: it grew larger, having incorporated the llyirians living there into the Macedonian State. The greatness of the Macedonian cavalry was based upon the fact that it was heavily comprised of llyrian horseman under the generalship of Alexander. These llyrians became Macedonian. Macedonians then were mixed.
AS i told you...NOT EVEN ONE SCRIPT has ever found from ILLYRIANS (only GREEKS saved their name who ONLY GREEKS USED it and NO ONE KNOWS how did they called them selfs...) and we have tribes of ILLYRIANS who HELLENIZED!
BUT we have NOT EVEN ONE PROVE for NO ONE ELSE except GREEKS!
ALBANIANS cant prove their CLAIMS just like SKOPIANS cant prove THAT THEY ARE NOT BULGARIANS! (REALLY...WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE ABOUT...MONKEYDONIANS???)...
@POTIS1 Alexander was Greek, yes. Not all Macedonians during the time of Alexander were ethnic Greeks. The western half of the ancient State of Macedon was comprised of llyrians peoples. Philip conquered them to secure the safety of his State from the West threat of llyrians. So, these people from then on were incorporated into the Macedonian State, and these same llyrians were the backbone of the Macedonian cavalry. They served directly under Alexander. Don't let nationalism blind you!
@POTIS1 I have just checked some of the Albanian sites and read their claims. They are very much distorted. Macedonian was NOT an llyrian language. Macedonian was a Greek dialect, related to the Dorian dialect of Greek. All ancient Greek and Italian grammarians referred to Macedonian as Greek dialect. This is historical fact. The Albanians are basing their claims on Macedonia on the fact(as I said) that tribes WEST of Macedon were incorporated by Philip of Macedon. I will send you reference.
@POTIS1 Also, I will bring to your attention that there are many websites that do not have an academic validity at all. I read some blacks who said the Greeks were really black! Preposterous! Some claim that Cleopatra was black! Hahahaha..She was a Macedonian princess(a Ptolemy). Alexandria was not an Egyptian city: it was Greek! That's why it has that name(named after Alexander). Some claim Aristotle stole his ideas from the great library of Egypt. Ha! It was not built until after he died!
2 TIMES EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS IN BASKETBALL and 2 ND PLACE in MUNDOBASKET at 2006 after SPAIN and when we had WON ALL STAR NBA-USA with MORE than 100 POINTS!..SOMETHING that NO HAD EVER DONE and NO ONE will NEVER FORGET!!
7 EUROPEAN CUPS IN BASKET from PANATHINAIKOS-OLYMPIAKOS and AEK.
K1-MAX WORLD CHAMPION MICHALIS ZAMBIDIS....
GREEK IMMIGRANTS....PHILLIPOUSIS in TENNIS and BAGHDATIS (CYPRIOT-GREEK)...ETC...ETC...
@stefanodef Yes, Italy would miss Sicily. Don't forget, Italians conquered the Greeks. Also, when Corinth was disrespectful to Rome, Rome burnt it to the ground. So watch out! Hehehehehe....LOL
@stefanodef What is your point? Doesn't matter how long ago it happened. Greeks should be proud of their heritage. But modern Greeks are not the same people as the ancients. Modern Greeks are mixed with Slavic blood. Also, modern Greeks are no match for the ancients in terms of intelligence or culture. However, it is nice to have something to rest your laurels on.
@halandreos79 Please do not make unqualified claims about such "fraternity". Yes, there is a Greek strain in Sicily and around the southern coast of Italy, however it is minor. The vast majority of people in Sicily lived in the mountains and they were called Sicels and Sicans. At one of these indigenous peoples were Italic. The Italics on the mainland far outnumbered the Greeks in the coastal settlements. However the Greek impact on culture in Italy was enormous.
chi non apprezza questa terra non ha capito nulla delle meraviglie della natura ...io sono palermitana e sono fiera di esserlo!!la sicilia bisogna viverla con occhi diversi ,perchè allora si capirà quanto è stupenda..e poi le persone palermitane sono molto ma molto disponibili!!sono persono squisite!!
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@TheMystic2100 1) in the past everyone was enslaved by other races included whites. 2) blacks sold their own slaves to europeans and arabs. 3) In multiracial countries blacks commit a massive number of violent crimes against whites and therefore I don't underrstand what forgiveness you're talking about.
JulianGardna 22 hours ago
ang ganda ng view sa Sicily!
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BOYKOILIEV2008 8 months ago
Silly Albanians ...... lol
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SICILY IS GREEK / HELLENIC
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SICILY IS GREEK / HELLENIC
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TheChemistengineer 1 year ago
@AVIATIO It is very foolish to claim fraternity based upon ethnicity. The gene pool of Europe is so mixed it makes the idea of categorizing identities absurd. What about the Greeks. do you think they are Italian because the Latin Legions were all over Greece? Greeks, Italians, Germans, Cetls, Slavs, Ilyrians, and Iberians- all Aryans(Indo-Europeans) entered into a Europe that was heavily inhabited by non-Aryans and mixed with them over time. And since then the blood-lines kept mxing.
bubbajackful 1 year ago
@bubbajackful
There were never too many legionaries in Greece to begin with so that Greek bloodlines might have been mixed with Italian peoples. Interbreeding usually tends to occur whenever mass migrations by one people to a land of another takes place, where the migrating people end up adopting the culture and customs of the majority culture.
The Greeks who settled Sicily over 2000 years ago would have been subjected to this tendency.
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@ AVIATIO We are brothers, no doubt about it: "one face one race"!
Greetings from Magna Grecia ;)
NuweHorisonne 1 year ago
Hey, this is the first time I have read a statement here that was historically accurate. !00% correct! All the current Euro languages are the tongues of Aryans, all who came, as you said, and mixed with non-Aryans. The only language today spoken in Europe that is not Aryan is the Basque language, which is the oldest language in Europe, because it was spoken since before the Aryans got there. Hahaha...Albanians are Greeks are Aryans.
demimond11 8 months ago
Suck my big fat Greek dick, Albanians...you are all Turkogypsy muslims who are jealous of Hellas.
DieserBenuterIstCool 1 year ago 7
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@DieserBenuterIstCool hahahah yes we are soooo much,I want to be greek pleasebut ihave white skin with hazel eyes will i pass,?In not real hairy to,,And so is most of albanians there share the same as me,,please can i be greek do i have to stick my dick in another man,I dont know if i can,,hhehehe
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
ΠΑΛΙΟ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ ΤΟΥ ΚΩΛΟΥ, ΔΕΝ ΠΑΣ ΝΑ ΓΑΜΗΘΗΣ ΡΕ ΕΘΝΙΚΙΣΤΗ ΧΟΙΡΕ!! ΒΑΛΕ ΦΕΛΛΟ ΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΚΩΛΟ ΣΟΥ ΚΑΙ ΑΪΝΤΕ ΓΙΑ ΥΠΝΟ ΓΡΗΦΟΡΑ, ΓΑΜΩ ΤΗΝ ΠΟΡΝΗ ΤΗΝ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ ΓΑΜΩ, ΕΙΣΤΕ ΟΛΟΙ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ ΠΟΥΤΣΟ ΜΑΣ ΡΕ!!!
YourSisterIsMyWhore 1 year ago
@YourSisterIsMyWhore Jo pse ju nuk e botës një nder dhe shko vrasin veten ... Ju grekët janë gypsys.you vjedhin historinë nga të tjerët çdo gjë Toka .. Tani shqiptarët kanë filluar të kuptoj se gënjeshtra dhe propagandë,,
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO As you can see greeks write diffrent to arvanties and albanians,,,lol idiot greeks ahve no idea.or any idea with albanians and there language MY language is older than yours,,
ktm066 1 year ago
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@ktm066 so before you insult me with the bullshit of greek myths and history just step back and think what many ancient writers wrote,,we albanians have been here for many tousand yrs..use were in asia minor while we were here.
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO tHERE IS OVER 13,000 TURK WORDS IN GREECE LANGUAGE,
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO TEL-TELI
TEMBEL-TEMBELIS
TENEKE-TENEKES
TERTIP-TERTIPI
YAHNI-YAHNI
YAPI-YAPI
ZAR-ZARI
ZOR-ZORI..SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS MUCH IN COMMAN WITH TURK AND GREEK,
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO HAMAM-HAMAMI
HATIR-HATIRI
HRUMA-HURMAS
KAPLAN-KAPLANI
KARAGOZ-KARAGOZI
KAVGA-KAVGAS
KEFAL-KEFALOS
KILIM-KILIMI
KITAP-KITAPI
KONAK-KONAKI
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO I can give you hundreds or pie in my language.Do you want to see the turks words in your language,
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO since you know everything,,tell me where is the greeks and latin in these,THESE ARE A FEW PIE WORD IN MY LANGUAGE THAT USE DONT HAVE.
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO kághmi - "I catch, grasp" kam "I have" q *klau-ei̯e/o - "to weep" qaj "to weep, cry" (Gheg qanj, Salamis kla)
*g g *h3lígos - "sick" ligë "bad" gj *h1reug - "to retch" regj "to tan hides"
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO tuhx - "thou" ti "you (singular)"
*d d *dihxtis - "light" ditë "day" dh[* 1] *pérde/o - "fart" pjerdh "to fart" g *dlh1gho - "long" gjatë "long" (Tosk dial. glatë
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO can any greek and any italia see there words here,pékʷe/o - "cook" pjek "to cook, roast, bake"
*b b *sorbéi̯e/o - "drink, slurp" gjerb "to drink"
*bh b *bhaḱeha - "bean" bathë "bean"
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
ΠΑΛΙΟ ΠΟΡΝΗ ΤΟΥ ΚΩΛΟΥ ΑΪΝΤΕ ΓΙΑ ΥΠΝΟ ΚΑΙ ΠΗΓΑΙΝΕ ΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΔΙΑΒΟΛΟ ΜΩΡΗ ΚΑΤΣΑΡΙΔΑ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΜΑΣ ΚΑΛΕΙΣ ΕΜΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΟΥΣ, ΟΥΣΤ ΡΕ ΕΝΤΟΜO.... ΓΑΜΙΕΤΑΙ Ο ΒΟΥΡΚΟΣ Ο ΟΠΟΙΟΣ ΛΕΓΕΤΑΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ!!!!
YourSisterIsMyWhore 1 year ago
@YourSisterIsMyWhore njerëzit vetëm që do të vizitojë djalli është që ju preists orthdox,, Ju të gjithë do të ktheheni në Azi e Vogël.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Hey jackass, the general consensus of historians is that the Macedonians were descended from the Greek tribe of Dorians, who colonized what is Macedonia over 3,000 years ago....
And Athena is NOT Albanian, moron. The only gypsies here are you cockroaches that every one hates in the Balkans, and we all know the truth that your language is 85% artificial borrowed from Greek, Latin and Turkish while your people were brought over here by the Ottomans from Azerbaijan... GO BACK CHIMPS
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO And who are the dorians we know they spoke a diffrent language to you????
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO as for 85% borrowed languages lmao.....as i said greeks it hurts use to know that we are a older people than you.how can we borrow things from use when use dont have them,,Tell me these words AFIS fis,apa,These wre found on a stone in greece on tablet it is albanian....you have no idea about use,,And if you want to go there with turks and arabs..
ktm066 1 year ago
@AVIATIO I just read your comments and I commented on Macedonian identity to Greeks before who are in denial about it. Firs of all, they are Greek, and I do not doubt the Dorians originated from that stock: The Dorian dialect was very close to the dialect of Macedonian Greek. And Dorians had many of the "primitive" customs that were associated with the Macedonians(Classical Greeks mocked them as hillbillies!). Important to know: many Ilyrians were incorporated into the Macedonian armny.
bubbajackful 1 year ago
@bubbajackful Good, I'm glad that you know some history unlike 99% of YT...but I don't trust you by your word alone, to be frank. I want to see your sources which say that all European races are bastardized and mixed....
In my opinion, you're doubtlessly wrong. There are genetic variations from nation to nation--some thing which can be confirmed by genetic testing, or even by visiting each nation. For example, Greeks don't look like Slavs, Albanians can have different facial features, etc.
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO Continued Part two: Ilyrians were renowned as great warriors on horseback. Philip and Alexander were well aware of this and respected their abilities. This is why they are absorbed into the Macedonian army(fully integrated by Alexander's time). Many ilyrians lived in close proximity to the Greeks there and there was considerable intermarriage of time there. Macedonians came to be very mixed. All Greeks, as all Euopeans were mixed with non-European peoples, who were in Europe first.
bubbajackful 1 year ago
@bubbajackful
Alexander, Philip and the Macedonians employed all sorts of Balkan races in their armies. However, that alone does not go to say that all the races began interbreeding incessantly are now all mixed.... That is simply asinine to assert. Look at how members of different cultures interact today. Interbreeding happens without a doubt, but it is not uncontrollable as you seem to think.
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@ktm066 the word adopted PELASGIANS writing NOT GREEKS,,,and you call me a dumb shit monkey.lol learn what you so called ancient writers wrote dick head,
ktm066 1 year ago
And you want me to learn history from greeks,LMAO the most propaganda country in the fucking world you have to be joking..I have read things what homer and other wrote,They clearly say that use are not pelasgians,,They siad they spoke a diffrent language,,Isnt it funny how we have hundreds of pelasgian words in our language that use dont have and dont know what they mean...
ktm066 1 year ago
@AVIATIO ITS ARBRESHEbahahah and you say they are greek?BABAH its also arvantie...baabahahh dick head,,I didnt say siclilians are albanian i just saying that there is some albaniasn there.YOU are the one who are saying they are greeks,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
What the fuck does Aberesh have to do with this video, Albo piece of shit?? This video is about Sicily, dumbass, that area was heavily colonized by Greeks in ancient times. Learn history, monkey.
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO arbreshes live in sicily dumb shit..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm06
Point being what, dumb ass? Take your Aberesh-shit to a video where people actually care.....
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO v=9wN2_mKQAEA watch this video very good.hehe
ktm066 1 year ago
@AVIATIO SO please dont insult me and my beautiful old culture that you also have..Go insult someone else..AND feel free to call me turk or gypsy or monkey or what ever you want,It still doesnt change the fact that im still albanian and you and ARBRESHES,,god bless Italia for not brainwashing our brothers of italia,,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@AVIATIO I dont have to spread lies about anything,And when it comes to ALBANIANS living in sicily,,So before you insult me ARVANTIE take a good look at the shit that has been filled in your head,,YOU ALSO ARE ALBANIAN,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Greeks are not Albanians, jack ass, and if I were an Albanian, I would have committed suicide a long time ago. Hell, you probably have more Greek DNA than you think.... Greeks have been fucking Albanians for generations, there were even Greek colonies on Albania for centuries, you Greek-spermed kid.
FUCK ALBANIA, every time that I take a shit, I think of YOU.
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO so you are saying arvanties are greeks?Thats fine when you do take that shit the only reason why you are thinking of me is because i filled your gay arse with my big albanian cock,,and filled it with CUM..so you will be thinking gee he had a big cock,,and spend the rest of the day shitting out my cum,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
*big* Albanian cock? looooooooooooool
That's an oxymoron, chimp ;-)
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO you didnt even know what i wrote before lol its is arbresh and arvantie language,And i can understand it because it is the same as my language,SO how can arvanties be greek??AND arbreshes??PLEASE EXPLAIN you dumb shit..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Idiot, the Arvanites were and are still Greek. Just because they speak some language similar to modern Albanian is not very conclusive of Albanian DNA. In fact, most Arvanites already spoke Greek also...as many Albanians did. And let's not forget, according to studies of the University of Stanford and Italy, Albanians have *A LOT* of Greek DNA! Learn history, monkey, the land of modern Albania had been colonized by Greeks more than 2,000 years ago! You are all sperm of Greeks....
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO yes you are right, BUT the fact is that albanians and kosova albanians have more EV-13 than what greeks have,,So this means you have ALBANIAN DNA..These study are from standfor.Oxford..And arvanties are albanian you stupid shit 6million people speak there language and they are all albanian,,dumb shit.
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
HAHAHAHAHAHA Albanian DNA.... And just who exactly made that study? The University of Albania?? XD
As I already said fuckface, the University of Stanford and of Italy have concluded that Greek DNA-markers are all over the Balkans, especially in Albania because of its nearness. Not surprisingly since Greeks had colonies in Albania and had dominated the region for centuries.... YOU ARE GREEK SPERM BITCH
AVIATIO 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO the highest E3b1a variance is among Apulians, Greeks, and Macedonians, and the highest frequency of the cluster is among Albanians, Macedonians,and Greeks (table 1)." If you make a total % of albanians of albania and albanians of kosovo all Albanians have the max Erb1-a freq
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO E3b1 in SEE is rather continuous
(fig. 4A and B), with a frequency peak extending from the
southeastern edge of the region and a variance peak in
southwest. Observed high E3b1 frequency in Kosovar Albanians
(46%) and Macedonian Romani (30%) represent
a focal rather than a clinal phenomenon resulting most
likely from genetic drift.
ktm066 1 year ago
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@AVIATIO over 30 countrys took part i this ..oxford italia,germany croatia,shitty serbia,usa,and may more,,You see you have SOME OF OUR DNA ,ILL SHOW YOU.More like when use arrived we gave you our sperm,,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@AVIATIO The ARBRESHES OF sicily are albanian so if you are talking about THEM why dont you go and ask them if they are greek..They are not silly to fall for the bullshit lies greeks have done to arvanties,,so dont tell me they are greek because I am friends with many arbreshes who say they are albanian,,so fuck you and your propaganda shit.
ktm066 1 year ago
@AVIATIO tell me greek can you understand this .Áti jinë çë je në qiell, shejtëruarkloftë embri jít...járthshit rregjëria jóte; ubëftë vullimi jít,....si në qiell, ashtú në dhé;...bukën tënë të përditshme ena neve sòt;....This is arbreshe They are from southern italia and they are albanians and they speak my language...
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
LOL wtf is that shit? That isn't a language, it's monkey speech XDDD
You Albo monkeys are so pathetic. First you claim that you are Illyrians, now the Sicilians are Albanians? Where will this shit end?
AVIATIO 1 year ago
@AVIATIO lies about what?
ktm066 1 year ago
to filarako einai magiko....den hmaste tou epipedou sou!
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79
KALA...KATSE NA KATEBO LIGO STO EPIPEDO SOU GIA NA MILHSOUME....
POS PAEI O OLYMPIAKOS???
Hahahahahaa.....
A RE KALAMI POY KAVALAN MERIKOI.....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 .....pitsirikas eisai?
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79
Giati rotas?
Paizei rolo H ilikia?
ALLA TELOS PANTON THA SOU PO....AN TO 79 EINAI TO ETOS GENNISIS SOY, TOTE O PITSIRIKAS EISAI ESY....
LES KANAS ELLHNAS PITSIRIKAS NA GNORIZEI TON GIORGO KASTRIOTI POU OI ALBANOI TON THEOROYN ALBANO ETHNIKO HROA H' LES KANAS PITSIRIKAS NA KSEREI TOUS ILLYRIOYS?KAI OI ITALOI SYMFONOYN XORIS NA TO PSAXNOYN?...LES?
DEN NOMIZO...
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 file, eimai 47 xronon!
halandreos79 1 year ago
@POTIS1 If the Minoans did not speak Greek then what does that tell you? How could they be Greek if they did not speak the language? You can be proud of Minoans as a part of Greek history, but they were not Greek and where there before Greeks. All universities teach this in USA, and also in Great Britain. Greeks who settled in Crete absorbed the much of the culture of the Minoans. Also, cycladic culture was not Greek either. Was part of MInoan culture. Akrotiri was not Greek.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
if MINOANS CAME FROM ASIA MINOR-ANATOLIA...THEN THEY ARE GREEKS...FOR SURE!
GREEK POPULATIONS BEGAN SETTLEMENT FROM THERE.
ANY WAY...YOURE RIGHT...WE AGREE IN GENERAL ABOUT GREEKS EXCEPT THOSE 2 POINTS OF MINOANS AND CYCLADES...YOU HAVE YOUR OPPINION...I HAVE MINE ...ENOUGH MEN AGREE WITH YOU AND ENOGH MEN WITH ME...THE EVIDENCES ARE FRAGMENTS AND NOT ENOUGH SO LET IT BE... ITS OK...AND THANK YOU FOR BEING FAN OF GREEK CIVILLIZATION...I APRECIATED THIS.
GEIA SOU.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11 well said ...
ktm066 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Also, Greeks are not pure Greeks anymore and have not been pure Greek since they entered Greece in 1850BC. They bred with the native peoples who were living in Greece when they got there. This was the pattern for all Indo-European peoples in Europe: they bred with the populations that were there when they arrived. Greek culture absorbed much from the cultures of the Near East: ie: Anatolia, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Crete. I hope the universities in Greece update their knowledge.
demimond11 1 year ago
@halandreos79
ALLA....TORA SEIRA MOY NA ROTISO....GIA PES MOY...APO POY KATAGESAI?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 apo thn athina eime ....alla meno nea yorkh 32 xronia...
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79
XAIROMAI POU DEN EISAI PITSIRIKOS...
LOIPON EGO EIMAI APO THN MANH (KATAGOGI) ALLA ZO 42 XRONIA STHN ATHINA...
OPOS EIDES DEN EXO SKOPO NA PROSVALO KANENAN...ARKEI NA ME KATALABAINEI.
POS EINAI TA PRAMATA STO NY?
GIATI EDO ATHINA EINAI...ASTA NA PANE....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Also, there is surely an Italian strain in the Greek population. There were many Italians in Greece during the Roman Age: many Roman troops and merchants ; and many Italians studied in Athens as well as other Greek universities. You believe Minoans were Greek because you want to believe it. Do you want truth? Then research it in the books that people use in the universities to study Greek culture. If you like, I can send you a list.
demimond11 1 year ago
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
I DONT BELIEVE...ONLY ME THAT MINOANS WAS GREEKS....THERE MUCH MORE PEOPLE NON GREEKS THAT BELIEVE THAT AND WROTE IT ON A PAPER THROUGH YEARS.
FOR EXAMPLE...'' But we know now that Greek civilization began at least a millenium before the Age of Athens and almost eight hundred years before Homer. It began off the mainland of Greece, in the Aegean Sea, in the palaces of the bureaucrat-kings of Minoa.'' Richard Hooker.
WELL THIS MAN WASNT GREEK...BUT HE BELIEVED IT!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Linear A was written in Minoan; Linear B in Mycenaen Greek. The Greeks who invaded Crete learned the writing technique from the Minoans and began using it. This is not my opinion, POTIS. This is standard historical fact that is taught about Minoan culture and Mycenaen Greek culture. Your opinions are directly calling PHD historians of Greek history as misinformed and idiots. Do you hear yourself? Do you know how you would sound to people who are professionaly educated on the subject
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
OK...YOU didnt answerd me....HOW THE GREEK SIGN OF APOLLON DELPHIC EPSILONS are behind THE MINOAN THRONE?
The MINOAN HISTORY is lost in time.
FRAGMENTS ONLY you can find, which from them....ONLY THEORIES you can ASSUME...LIKE THOSE YOURE TELLING ME.
WHY LINEAR A IS NOT PROTO-GREEK PELASGIAN LANGUAGE?
WHO CAN PROVE THAT?
WHAT ARE THE BORDERS OF CHARACTERIZED ONE MAN ''GREEK'' OR NOT?
THE LANGUAGE? THE WORSHIP? THE NAMES? THE ARCHITECTURE? WHAT?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Answer: Greeks arrived in Crete around 1400BC. As I said, they used the Minoan script to write their language. Greek culture absorbed a great deal of Minoan culture. Scholars know the Minoans were not Greek because the MInoan language is no Greek and not "proto-Greek" as you say because scholars also know that it is not even Indo-European, which the the language family Greek belongs to. A great deal of MInoan culture underlies Greek culture.
demimond11 1 year ago
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
WIKI....''History of Greece.........One of the earliest civilizations to appear around Greece was the Minoan civilization in Crete, which lasted from about 2700 (Early Minoan) BC to 1450 BC.
Little specific information is known about the Minoans (even the name is a modern appellation, from Minos, the legendary king of Crete).''
THE INFORMATIONS ARE SO.....LITTLE...BUT PROFESSORS...KNOWS THAT MINOAN ARE NOT GREEKS...
HOW?
BY HOLY SPIRIT?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
AT LAST...EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT....MINOANS BELONG TO GREEK HISTORY AND NOT TO TURKISH OR AMERICAN OR INDIA HISTORY.
IF YOU SEARCH ABOUT MINOANS...INSTANTLY YOU GONNA THINK ABOUT GREECE AND NOT ITALY OR RUSSIA OR USA.
THE LACK OF EVIDENCES CAUSE OF THE ANTIQUITY OF THIS CIVILLIZATION...DOESNT MEAN THAT ARENT GREEKS.
ON THE CONTRARY, THE FACTS, ARE SHOWING THE OPPOSITE.
(DELPHIC EPSILONS BEHIND MINOAN THRONE, MINOAN PAINTINGS (boxing kids) IN CYCLADIC CIVILLIZATION ISLANDS)
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11 Also, Minoans and other Anatolian populations who settled in the Aegean and mainland Greece were there sine the beginning of the Bronze Age and the Greeks did not arrive until about 1850BC. Greeks are not a pure race; Europeans in general are not pure. You speak Greek but you are not all Greek: you are mixed with the races of people who lived in Greece before Greeks arrived. Greek was the language of the conquering people who came there. You need to read the university books.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
halandreos79 1 year ago
@demimond11
And please...DONT TELL ME THAT WIKI is NOT ACCURATE....
WIKI....''Timeline of Cretan scripts....Linear A Aegean islands (Kea, Kythera, Melos, Thera), and Greek mainland (Laconia) ca. 1700s−1450 BC ''.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 "Pelasgians" was a term that the ancient Greeks used to call the native peoples living in Greece before the Greeks arrived in Greece. As I told you, many aspects of Minoan culture were absorbed by the Greeks- just the same way that many Italians(Romans, ie) absorbed many aspects of Greek culture. Why are so many scenes of Greek mythology depicted on Roman vases? Doesn't mean the Romans were Greek, Potsy. Does it ?
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
YOUR WRONG IS THAT YOU BEGAN THE GREEK HISTORY FROM MYCINES...WHEN THE GREEK CYCLADIC CIVILLIZATION EXISTS 1500 YEARS BEFORE THEM...
''The culture of mainland Greece contemporary with Cycladic culture is termed Helladic.Excavations at Knossos on Crete reveal an influence of Cycladic civilization upon Knossos in the period 3400 BC to 2000 BC as evidenced from pottery finds at Knossos''.
GREEKS INFLUENCED BY GREEKS.
ALL OF THEM BELONG TO GREEK HISTORY.
THATS THE FACTS MY FRIEND!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Also, Cretans are listed among the tribes of Hellas in Homer because they were Cretan Greeks. Homer's war at Troy took place around 1240BC and by that time the Greeks had already controlled Crete for almost a few hundred years. Everything I tell you is not opinion. It is all learned from the university lectures. I have taken many courses on ancient Greek and Roman culture.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Minoans WERE NOT GREEKS!. Don't depend on Wiki. If you want to read an encyclopedia, go to the library and use the Britannica. Minoan history has become a part of Greek history but they were not Greek. Why do you persist with believing something that is not true? And you make no effort to unveil the truth, only to defend something you want to believe even though you don't really know if it may not be true. When I offer you books you don't want them. You are living a fantasy.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
''WIKI HAS EXACTLY THE SAME ACCURACY AS THE BRITANNICA ENCYCLOPEDIA''.
USA NATURE MAGAZINE .....
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 There is not one scholar who believes that the Minoans were Greek. If you do not believe in what is taught at the universities about the Greeks, then you are making yourself out to be very foolish. Nobody can take you seriously. If you really want to learn, then make an effort to understand. Find the books that are used to teach Greek history.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Cycladic culture was all apart of Minoan culture: Santorini, Akrotiri, etc. They were all apart of Anatolian civilization. The Mycenaens were among the first Greeks in Greece. Mycenaean civilization was the first Greek civilization and it was heavily influenced by Minoan culture. NO Greeks in Greece before about 1850BC. The pre-Greek peoples in Greece came from Anatolia. All in the Aegean were from Anatolia. Historical fact.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
N WHICH UNIVERSITY YOU STUDY?
SEND me titles of books you told me or on line infos better (so i can read them, cause books are difficult for me to find them).
WHICH COUNTRY IS YOUR ORIGIN?
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT VIMANAS FROM INDIA and the GREEK CREATORS of them?
How do youu explain that EGYPTIAN PRIEST TOLD TO PLATO (TIMAIOS) THAT ATHENIANS FOUGHT ATLANTIANS 9.000 BEFORE HIS AGE?(600 BC)! MEANS 9600 BC OF ATHENIANS-ATLANTIANS FIGHT!!
WHAT YEAR DID ORPHIC HYMNS ARE WRITTEN?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
HOW TALOS ROBOT AND WHAT YEAR DID HE FLEW ABOVE CRETE?
WHAT YEAR HERCULES FOUNDED AND BAPTIZED GIBRALTAR (HERACLEAS COLUMNS)?
WHAT YEAR DIONYSOS MADE HIS WORLD TOUR??
WHAT YEAR DID ARGONAUTS FLEW WITH ARGO SHIP?
WHAT YEAR DID THE HALF PLANET TOOK GREEK NAMES?
FOR EXAMPLE ARCTICA AND ANTARCTICA, ATLANTIC OCEAN, EUROPE, PHILLIPINES, MELANISIA, POLYNESIA, BALTIC SEA,ERYTHRA SEA, PERSIA,GEORGIA,INDIA,MARSEILLE,CORSICA,SICELIA,ANATOLIA & 1000S ETC WHAT YEAR AND WHY HAVE GREEK NAMES?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
WHOS FOUNDED THEM FIRST?
WHEN?
WHY DO THEY HAVE GREEK NAMES?
WHY ALL STARS HAVE GREEK NAMES?
HOW GREEKS KNOW ABOUT ANDROMEDA, ALFA OF CENTAUROS, SIRIOS and THOUSANDS GALAXIES?
IF THEY DONT HAVE TELESCOPES...HOW DO THEY SAW THEM AND BAPTIZED THEM??
HOW DO THEY KNOW ACCURATE THEIR POSSITION?
HOW DO WE HAVE FOUND IN GREECE, GREEK ALPHABETIC LETTERS IN ANCIENT REMAINS FROM 6000 BC???(UNBELIEVABLE???BELIEVE IT!).
MAN...YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT HISTORY OF GREECE DIDNT BEGAN AT MYCINES!
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POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
and of course a BIG MISTAKE that you done ...which means that you DONT KNOW GREEK HISTORY as well AS YOU THINK!
CYCLADIC CULTURE WAS PART OF MINOAN CULTURE?
YOU know what you telling me?
That the APACHES-INDIANS culture had....the USA culture!!!
CYCLADES was existed more than 500 years BEFORE MINOANS!
HOW they can be a PART OF MINOIC CIVILLIZATION??
YELLOW CARD TO YOU MY FRIEND!!
POTIS1 1 year ago
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POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 I will prepare a list of books you should read. You need it. I am degreed from Berkley University in California. Nobody knows anything about Greeks before 1850BC. What is the level of your education? Also, if you are from Greece, I can't believe that they did such a bad job educating you about Greek culture. You must be from the mountains in Arcadia. You sound like Zorba. Professor Kojack.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
OH ...CMON MAN.
IN USA THEY LEARN YOU IN SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES EVEN THAT MACEDONIANS AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT...WASNT GREEKS!!!
HOW CAN I TAKE YOU SERIUSLY???
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Yes, some people have said that Macedonians were originally not a Greek people but were absorbed by Hellenic culture by 5th century BC. My university taught that they were Greek and that their dialect was treated by ancient grammarians as a Greek dialect. However, by the time of Alexander, they were mixing with llyrians. The Greeks did not have any high culture until the Mycenean period. The Mycenian civilization was the first Greek civilization, but it was based on MInoan(not Greeks)
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11 I understand your love for you ancestral culture, but you have no training in it, and you are unread in the field. You are not qualified to talk about ancient Greek culture. Any unlettered man who challenges the knowledge of professors on the subject is foolish. Greeks take pride in the beauty of Minoan culture, but even Greek professors in Greece know Minoans were not a Greek speaking people, but were a different ethnic group altogether. Greeks learned high culture from them.
demimond11 1 year ago
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
EVEN IF ONE DAY ITLL PROVED THAT YOURE RIGHT AND MINOANS WASNT GREEKS (today..NO one can prove it)...EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT...THIS CIVILLIZATION, BELONGS TO GREEK HISTORY...LIKE CYCLADES.
ITS NOT BELONG TO TURKISH OR SLAV OR INDIA OR USA HISTORY.
THIS CHAPTER OF THOSE CIVS YOU CAN READ IT ONLY IN GREEK HISTORY AND MYTHISTORY.....RIGHT MY FRIEND???
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
SEE MY FRIEND?
ONE UNIVERCITY SAID THE ''ONE'' THE OTHER SAID ''SOMETHING ELSE''.
MACEDONIANS FOR BERCLEY ARE GREEKS AND FOR OXFORD ARE NOT FOR EXAMPLE!
THE SCIENTS CANNOT AGREE WITH THEMSELVES...WHY DO I HAVE TO BELIEVE THEM?
WHY DONT YOU ANSWERED ME HOW THE ''APOLLONIAN DELPHIC REVERSED EPSILONS'' (white striped epsilon in BLUE backround...JUST LIKE THE BLUE AND WHITE OF THE TODAY HELLAS FLAG...LUCKILLY?I DONT KNOW!)ARE BEHIND THE MINOAN THRONE (photo you can see anywhere!!)
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Anyway, even if I send you the list of books to read, you will not accept what they say because you are not interested in researching for truth, but only for protecting your mythological beliefs about Greek history. However, the bottom line is that the Greeks do have a great culture to appreciate. We agree on this point and I am a big fan of ancient Greek and Roman culture. We are arguing over the errors of your impressions of origins.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Well, Greek civilization had its first flowering in the Mycenean period, about 1500BC and lasted down to the time of Troy. Homer came around 750BC(aprox) and then the prot-classical period of the 6th century, with Philosophy first appearing in Miletus. Listen, I was talking to a crazy black on youtube who is saying that philosophy was invented by "black Greeks" in Turkey. He said that the Greeks stole the black culture of Africa. This is what many blacks believe now.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
YEAH...RIGHT...I HAD HEARD MONKEYS (SLAVS) FROM MONKEYDONIA TO TELL ME (IN THEIR MOTHER LANGUAGE...BULGARIAN)THAT THEY RE MACEDONIANS AND MACEDONIANS NEVER WAS GREEKS AND GREEK ORIGINS ARE FROM AFRICA(ETHIOPIA)...SUB-SAHARANS...
YEAH SURE...AND WHEN WE (THE BLACKS GREEKS) PASSED THE MEDDITERANEAN FROM AFRICA, WE TOOK A BRUSH AND WE PAINTED OUR ASSES WHITE...AS THE YEARS PASSED, WE BRUSHED MORE AND MORE PARTS OF OUR BODY...THATS NOW WHY WE ARE WHITE!!!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
oh!I FORGOT!
WHEN THEY PAINTED US WHITE FROM AFRICA TO GREECE AND MINOR ASIA, WE HAD OUR ASSHOLES CLOSED!
THATS WHY THEY ARE STILL BLACK!!
....WHAT A MORONS ...
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Well, Alexander was not llyrian. He was Greek. Slavs in Macedonia the country have nothing to do with ancient Greek Macedonians.....Hehehe...I like to listen to the blacks talk about history: they are very funny and their theories sound like a Star Trek Movie. Blacks in USA have a deeply damaged psyche and are trying to build self-esteem for themselves, so they will believe any theory that offers them the illusion of accomplishment. All races know they are a loser people.
demimond11 1 year ago 8
@demimond11 Hey. I am White Southern Italian. Why do you say Blacks are a 'loser people'. They were raped by racism, stripped of there things and shipped like animals when they are equal human beings. Judge a person by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin. Black people have been and are still being treated like crap by racist morons. The fact they have been so forgiving is a testament to how good black people are. Why do you want only one colour in a garden?
TheMystic2100 8 months ago
Well, it is true. Blacks desperately try to keep alive their image of being a victimized people It is to their advantage. They are a loser race. Look at Africa! Black tribes there wared among themselves, murdered, raped and enslaved other black tribes. They then sold them to the Arabs, who also murdered and raped and then sold the blacks they bought to the Whites. This is the story of humankind. Blacks are no box of chocolates.
demimond11 8 months ago
lets stay within true history.....Potis . Stop the Nationalism. We are all Meditteranean people we all share common roots..!
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79 That is very accurate. The peoples are so mixed now and their cultures are so mixed that it is foolish to base claims of ethnic or racial achievement on our "personal" ancestry, one that we can't even fully know. Foolish to justify our contemporary pride on some notion of a pure ancestral heritage that may be completely different from the actual truth. Your comment is well taken and wise.
bubbajackful 1 year ago
I agree!
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79
Pes mou pou diafoneis filarako kai tha sou eksigiso giati to eipa.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Hi. Sorry late with source but I had to look through my books for it. Try J.B. Bury: A History of Greece(pages670 to 675). His is one of the first standard texts on Greek history. He states: Macedonian Greeks were united with llyrian tribes in the hills around coastal Macedon by Philip. He conquered, then absorbed them into his army. Under Alexander these llyrians and Greek Macedonians merged to form Macedonian people. This is standard historical fact.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
ACOORDING TO MYTHISTORY OF GREECE, THE FIRST ILLYRIANS WAS GREEKS.
ILLYRIOS WAS THE FOUNDER AND HIS FATHER WAS KADMOS AND HIS MOTHER WAS ARMONIA.
ILLYRIOS IS A GREEK NAME JUST LIKE ILLYRIA OR ILLYRIOI.
ILLYRIANS COINAGE WAS DRACHMA, this coinage is the GREEK COINAGE till 2001 AD!!
FILOTAS is the GREEK NAME writen on some of them!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
BECAUSE OF THE NON HISTORY OF ILLYRIANS WE HAVE NOT ENOUGH HISTORICAL EVIDENCES TO TELL SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THEM.
I SALUTE YOUR BOOK BUT THIS IS A THEORY OF Mr. BURY and NOT PROVES.
PROVES are in ANCIENT SOURCES and ANCIENT SOURCES about ILLYRIANS...ARE NOT EXIST.
DONT forget that MUCH ILLYRIANS TRIBES are HELLENIZED that means maybe your theory HAPPENS.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Potis, The source I quoted you is a highly respected historian of ancient Greek history. He is from Cambridge university. What he wrote is standard historical fact about Macedonia. Illyrians in the hills of Macedonia were Macedonian since the time of Philip. Forget Mythology: it is not history. You are talking in an irrational manner. Your hatred for Albanians and llyrians makes no sense and is motivated by wild emotion- not science. You say one thing and history says another.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
NONONO!
DONT FORGET MYTHOLOGY!
TROYA WAS MYTHOLOGY TILL SLEEMAN FOUND THE CITY!
NOW ITS HISTORY BECAUSE OF THE TRUTHS THAT MYTHOLOGY TOLDS!
THATS WHY I PRONOUNCED IT MYTHISTORY!
ITS MYTH TILL IT BECAME HISTORY FROM ARCHAEOLOGISTS.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 There is usually some basis or kernel of truth underlying a myth but mythology also has much in it that is invented. Yes Troy was a legend at one time. So was Minos. Then it was discovered that Minos was not Greek: he was Minoan and he Athenian Greeks had to pay him tribute every year: they sent young men and women to him so he could sacrifice them to the bull god. Maybe Thesius defeated Minos and freed Athens from the tribute.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
OH NOT AGAIN...MINOANS WAS GREEKS...HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT?
ONLY I PROVE I WILL GIVE YOU.
SEARCH A PHOTO OF MINOAN THRONE IN GOOGLE.
NOW LOOK BEHIND AND DOWN THE MINOAN THRONE, THE ROYAL-GREEK SYMBOL OF ''REVERSED EPSILONS'' (IN BLUE COLOUR!).
THE SYMBOL CALLED ''EPSILON TO EN DELPHIS'' AND ITS THE SYMBOL OF GREEK GOD APOLLON IN DELPHIS.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Listen. You have no grasp of Greek culture, my friend. I have taken courses in Greek history at the University. Minoans were not Greeks. When Greeks entered Greece around 1850BC there were many non-Greek peoples there. Minoans are or Anatolian stock. The Greeks learned from them. Santorini and Crete were decimated by volcanic eruption about 1400BC and then the Greeks on the mainland were able to invade Crete. From then on Crete became Greek speaking. Minoans were not Greeks.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Part 11: Archeologists unearthed two forms of Minoan writing: one called Linear A and one called Linear B. One is not deciphered because it was written in the original Minoan language and the other, Linear B, was written in Greek. The Greeks of that time who invaded Crete and took over the Minoan island learned about writing Minoan script from the Minoans. Also, Greeks are not pure race. There are no pure races in Europe, meaning they are mixed with the peoples they conquered. Fact.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 If you know your history well you would know that between 2000BC and 1500BC was the Minoan civilization(not a Greek culture). After the Greeks were settled in Greece since 1850BC and began learning from the Anatolian cultures in Greece that were influenced by the Minoans, they spun off there own civilization which was called Mycenaen civilization. Agamemnon, Minolaos, of the time of Troy were Mycenaen Greeks. All Aryans in Europe(Greeks too) mixed in with native peoples. This is fact.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
''COME HERE GRANDPA...I WANNA SHOW YOU YOUR FIELDS''....
YOU GONNA LEARN TO A GREEK...A GREEK HISTORY?
OH MAN...NICE JOKE!
WELL ANYWAY...IF YOU KNOW BETTER HISTORY YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT MINOAN CIVILLIZATION BEGAN 3650 BC AND NOT 2000 BC.''Though the two scripts – Linear A and B – share some of the same symbols, using the syllables associated with Linear B in Linear A writings produces words that are unrelated to any known language.''
CONCLUSION???
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Linear A is an unknown language because it was Minoan and as of yet not deciphered. The language on the tablets written in Linear B is Mycenaen Greek. Are you some kind of genius that you know more than the professors who are teaching Greek history at the universities? hehehe...300BC to 2000BC was the Bronze Age in Greece. Minoans and Anatolian peoples were there but high Aegean culture not started until about 2100 BC. Minoan civil peaked at 1500BC. I can educate you if you like.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 I can recommend many books for you to read that are used at the university. It seems that you are only interested arguing for some kind of propaganda of Greek history. You are trying to argue some wonderful picture of Greek history that did not exist. You do not do justice to Greek history or to Greeks by distorting its true history, as it is taught in universities. If you really loved your history, you would open your mind to learning.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
WIKI...''The name Pelasgians (Greek: Pelasgoí) was used by some ancient Greek writers to refer to populations that preceded the Hellenes in Greece, "a hold-all term for any ancient, primitive and presumably autochthonous people in the Greek world.
Under that name survived in several locations of mainland Greece, Crete and other regions of the Aegean''.
LET ME HAVE MY OBJECTIONS.....PLEAAAASEEE!!!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 I have over 100 books here on ancient Greek and Roman history. My friend, you need to take history courses in ancient Greek and Roman history. If you like, I can recommend some standard books that are used at the university for teaching Greek and Roman history. You are speaking from your heart but have a very distorted notion of Greek history. There were peoples living in Greece and Crete and Aegean for thousands of years before Greeks arrived. Greeks came around 1850BC from the North
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
CONCLUSION IS THAT LINEAR B IS GREEK BUT LINEAR A (MINOAN) ...IS NOT GREEK?!?!?!!!
OH GOD....
IS LIKE WINDOWS 95 MADE IT BY MICROSOFT BUT WINDOWS 98 HAVE NOT ANY RELATION WITH WINDOWS 95 AND ...MICROSOFT...NEVER MADE THEM....APPLE MUST MADE THEM...HAHA.
NO MY FRIEND... I TOLD YOU ...EPSILON DELFIKO BEHIND THRONE OF MINOS IS THE KEY!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
NOT TO MENTION THAT MINOANS AND SANTORINIS ISLAND PEOPLES ARE THE SAME GREEK RACE AS ARCHAELOGICAL PROVES AFTER THE ERUPTION OF VOLCANO FOUND IT!
ALTHOUGH THE MINOAN MYTHISTORY IS IN THE...GREEK MYTHOLOGY...NOT THE PERSIAN OR INDIAN!
DONT FORGET THAT IN EUROPE AT 2000 BC...ONLY GREEK RACES EXISTED...NOT ANYONE ELSE!
THATS ALL.
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
OR you better see this video and EVIDENCES in front of your EYES.
ENJOY.
watch?v=g7SqAogmDw4
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
WIKI.....''In the 19th century, an Illyrian national identity became significant in Croatian nationalism. In Communist Albania, an Illyrian national identity also began to play a significant role in Albanian nationalism.''.
AS YOU CAN SEE...NATIONALISM IS THE CATALYST FOR EX-YUGOSLAVIANS AND ALBANIANS.
BUT FOR GREEKS?
COINS AND LANGUAGE IS THE ANSWER!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
In Greek mythology, Illyrius was the son of Cadmus and Harmonia who eventually ruled Illyria and became the eponymous ancestor of the whole Illyrian people.[9] Illyrius had multiple sons (Encheleus, Autarieus, Dardanus, Maedus, Taulas and Perrhabeus) and daughters (Partho, Daortho, Dassaro and others). From these, sprang the Taulantii, Parthini, Dardani, Enchelaeae, Autariates, Dassaretae and the Daors.
ALL ILLYRIAN NAMES ARE GREEK!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
WIKI FOR ILLYRIANS ''Polybius (3rd century BC) writes that "the Romans had freed the Greeks from the enemies of all mankind".[26]''.
THATS WHY I TOLD YOU THAT ILLYRIANS WAS THE SCUM OF MANKIND!
NO CIVILLIZATION NO SCRIPTS NO NOTHING!
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
BUT at last ILLYRIANS are stood in HISTORY as BARBARIANS and the ''FILTH'' of humanity (as a ROMAN HISTORIAN SAYS(I dont remember his name now)).
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
WHY dont you go to this man who is ALBANIAN to tell you the truth about ILLYRIANS.
user/xIllyrianWarriorx
ILLYRIANS HAD GREEK COINS SPOKE AND WRITE GREEK LANGUAGE BUT...THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH GREEKS???
WHY?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@demimond11
WHAT do you believe?
ILLYRIANS are ALBANIANS?
MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS?
EPIROTANS ARE GREEKS?
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Albanians I don't know much about. I do know from my history course that the Macedonians incorporated illyrian tribes from the hills surrounding the coastal plains where they lived. Both Philip and Alexander absorbed these llyrians into the Macedonian state and in time they were one people. Macedonian were originally Greek but then at some point became mixed to a certain extant with llyrian blood. Fact. Macedonians from province in Greek are mixed people(llyrian and Greek blood.)
demimond11 1 year ago
sicilians are brothers to the greeks....get a DNA test!!!
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79 Sicily should be part of greece...italy will not miss it.
Do you maybe want Neaple's region as well?
stefanodef 1 year ago
@stefanodef ....Greece doesnt want sicily or the region of south italy,..i said that south Italy and sicily have and share common history -roots! ...and DNA!
Rome owes everything to the Greek colonies in south italy,and mainland Greece.
And Italian Rennaisance to byzantine Greeks, or theEastern Roman Empire.
dont confuse people.....south italy was Romanized!
halandreos79 1 year ago
@halandreos79 The Italians are the babies of the Greeks. Although very unique, Italian culture is heavily Hellenized, and, in turn, so became Europe. There is a Greek genetic strain in the Italians of the South, however, remember, they, as all Europeans, are related peoples(Aryans/Indo-Europeans). And there are many aspects of culture in which the Italians surpassed the Greeks. You know, most educated Italians of then were bilingual: studied Greek and Latin at school. The Greeks were mentors.
demimond11 1 year ago
@stefanodef However, you must not forget that the Modern Greeks don't have the same "stuff" as the ancients. Culturally, the modern Greeks are failures and in no way live up to their ancestors. It is a shame. The Italians were more pragmatic than the Greeks, who were more defined by academic/abstract idealism. Italian law is the basis for modern law(Roman Codus Juris Civilis). Greek church design(dome) derived from Italian Pantheon in Rome. Muslims took this from the Greeks.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
NOW let me remind you some culture ID from ancient GREECE till TODAY.
WE had traitors from EFIALTIS till 1453 KERKOPORTA OPENER and todays our POLITICIANS who left SKOPIA to have the name ''MACEDONIA'' and use it...when ALL PLANET KNOWS that MACEDONIA and ALEXANDER THE GREAT was NOT SLAVOBULGAROS or ALBANIAN...BUT HELLINAS-GREEK!
Now...some GOOD CULTURE NEWS....
Do you know PAP TEST?
IS GREEK invention for VAGINA CANCER PREVENTION from DR. PAPANIKOLAOU in 20th CENTURY...
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Brother, you must read history. Macedonians, yes, were Greek; but Philip conquered the Illyrian geography next to Macedon because they were a warlike threat to him. Then en incorporated it into the Macedonian State, which then was mixed with Illyrians(Albanians). These Illyrians were great horse-mounted warriors and formed the backbone of Alexander's army. After the split in modern times, yes Slavs took over western Mace, incorporating Illyrian Macedonians. Macedonia was split.
demimond11 1 year ago
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Do not let national pride blind you to historical fact, Potis! Those llyrians living west of Macedonia were defeated by Philip of Macedon and then the map of Macedon changed: it grew larger, having incorporated the llyirians living there into the Macedonian State. The greatness of the Macedonian cavalry was based upon the fact that it was heavily comprised of llyrian horseman under the generalship of Alexander. These llyrians became Macedonian. Macedonians then were mixed.
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
AS i told you...NOT EVEN ONE SCRIPT has ever found from ILLYRIANS (only GREEKS saved their name who ONLY GREEKS USED it and NO ONE KNOWS how did they called them selfs...) and we have tribes of ILLYRIANS who HELLENIZED!
BUT we have NOT EVEN ONE PROVE for NO ONE ELSE except GREEKS!
ALBANIANS cant prove their CLAIMS just like SKOPIANS cant prove THAT THEY ARE NOT BULGARIANS! (REALLY...WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE ABOUT...MONKEYDONIANS???)...
SEND ME LINK ABOUT ALEXANDER ILLYRIAN ARMY...
POTIS1 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Alexander was Greek, yes. Not all Macedonians during the time of Alexander were ethnic Greeks. The western half of the ancient State of Macedon was comprised of llyrians peoples. Philip conquered them to secure the safety of his State from the West threat of llyrians. So, these people from then on were incorporated into the Macedonian State, and these same llyrians were the backbone of the Macedonian cavalry. They served directly under Alexander. Don't let nationalism blind you!
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 I have just checked some of the Albanian sites and read their claims. They are very much distorted. Macedonian was NOT an llyrian language. Macedonian was a Greek dialect, related to the Dorian dialect of Greek. All ancient Greek and Italian grammarians referred to Macedonian as Greek dialect. This is historical fact. The Albanians are basing their claims on Macedonia on the fact(as I said) that tribes WEST of Macedon were incorporated by Philip of Macedon. I will send you reference.
demimond11 1 year ago
@POTIS1 Also, I will bring to your attention that there are many websites that do not have an academic validity at all. I read some blacks who said the Greeks were really black! Preposterous! Some claim that Cleopatra was black! Hahahaha..She was a Macedonian princess(a Ptolemy). Alexandria was not an Egyptian city: it was Greek! That's why it has that name(named after Alexander). Some claim Aristotle stole his ideas from the great library of Egypt. Ha! It was not built until after he died!
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11
2 TIMES EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS IN BASKETBALL and 2 ND PLACE in MUNDOBASKET at 2006 after SPAIN and when we had WON ALL STAR NBA-USA with MORE than 100 POINTS!..SOMETHING that NO HAD EVER DONE and NO ONE will NEVER FORGET!!
7 EUROPEAN CUPS IN BASKET from PANATHINAIKOS-OLYMPIAKOS and AEK.
K1-MAX WORLD CHAMPION MICHALIS ZAMBIDIS....
GREEK IMMIGRANTS....PHILLIPOUSIS in TENNIS and BAGHDATIS (CYPRIOT-GREEK)...ETC...ETC...
POTIS1 1 year ago
@stefanodef Yes, Italy would miss Sicily. Don't forget, Italians conquered the Greeks. Also, when Corinth was disrespectful to Rome, Rome burnt it to the ground. So watch out! Hehehehehe....LOL
demimond11 1 year ago
@demimond11 ...ooook, sure. Was this happening something like 1500 years ago?
stefanodef 1 year ago
@stefanodef What is your point? Doesn't matter how long ago it happened. Greeks should be proud of their heritage. But modern Greeks are not the same people as the ancients. Modern Greeks are mixed with Slavic blood. Also, modern Greeks are no match for the ancients in terms of intelligence or culture. However, it is nice to have something to rest your laurels on.
demimond11 1 year ago
@halandreos79 Please do not make unqualified claims about such "fraternity". Yes, there is a Greek strain in Sicily and around the southern coast of Italy, however it is minor. The vast majority of people in Sicily lived in the mountains and they were called Sicels and Sicans. At one of these indigenous peoples were Italic. The Italics on the mainland far outnumbered the Greeks in the coastal settlements. However the Greek impact on culture in Italy was enormous.
demimond11 1 year ago
ok it was a great film i watched it on
watch !!! last !!! movies. com (delete !!!'s)
gladyswilliesm 1 year ago
eyyy come on ey? i aint never heard of no italian talkin like dat
raptoresque 1 year ago
chi non apprezza questa terra non ha capito nulla delle meraviglie della natura ...io sono palermitana e sono fiera di esserlo!!la sicilia bisogna viverla con occhi diversi ,perchè allora si capirà quanto è stupenda..e poi le persone palermitane sono molto ma molto disponibili!!sono persono squisite!!
royalmatrix93 1 year ago 2
Sicilia bella bella bella ........
Pfalz1000 2 years ago
NICE ANCIENT GREEK PLACE!
POTIS1 2 years ago
@POTIS1 italian not greek
raptoresque 2 years ago