More proof that the Vorlons are only another selfish race.
The Shadows give you Morden, Satan the warm friendly tempter, who will grant you your greatest wishes at the cost of dignity and lives. You are the most important thing in the universe.
The Vorlons give you Sebastian, Satan the cold sneering accuser, who will break your resolve and demoralize you as another deluded triviality. You are the most insignificant thing in the universe.
@AtenRa But that isnt Sebastians job. Sebastian's job is to verify that you are indeed NOT insignificant. That you are someone who WILL change the galaxy.
Besides, this is the first and last time Sebastian is even allowed out of Vorlon space in a long time. So your analogy of Sebastian being a "Satan" doesnt hold up, as he is there to ONLY verify significance not to demoralize.
i enjoy this interpretation very much so, and i agree totally!!! in my opinion, Sebastian represents the absolute truth of the undying self... and him drilling her brain like this is very similar to what some gurus do to show people their true nature. of course, gurus dont hurt people physically like this sebastian buddy... not the really good ones at least :( :(
honestly, somebody should interrogate the entire world with this question. I'm pretty sure human society would improve quite drastically, if everyone had to introspect for just half a minute, instead of running the useless rat race of life like manic mice
this is the classic argument of essentialism versus existentialism:
is a person what he or she does, thinks, feels, respects, loathes, serves, denies, or interacts with, along with the friends, foes, and relationships he or she develops
or
is a person something inherent and unchanging independent of anything he or she does or feels or relates to?
Too bad it's a trick question, and ole Jack knew it too. :) His mocking of her about how she could not answer a "simple question" is pretty absurd if you think about it.
@FractalFeline i just did...she is not her body...her body has a name, associations, etc. he's trying to show her she is much more than that, she is consciousness, infinite consciousness. she doesnt understand this so she keeps giving unsatisfactory answers.
one of my fav episodes. when this one was on tv the commercial breaks seemed to drag on forever. by this point in the story the scale of what was unfolding was becoming more clear.
This was at the end of season 2 and the scope of the series didn't become clear until half-way through season 3.
So unless you actually read up on ancient Babylon (as much of the series is based on) while the series FIRST aired, then you are either smarter than most people or completely stupid.
i neither read up on ancient babylon, nor am i completely stupid, so i guess i must be smarter than most people?
i watched it while it was first airing, and i would say the penny dropped for me well before the episode featured here. by the time Emperor Turhan died (episode 9 season 2) i knew i was watching an epic saga, not merely a character drama.
Inquisitor is retarded!She's the cutest thing Universe ever has seen(to answer his question...).
MONSTER9451 4 months ago
Your only destiny is to be the nail that gets hammered down. Bang, bang... bang.
PassiveSmoking 5 months ago
i like to think delenn and sebastian ran into each other "beyond the rim", and it was very awkward, lol.
nightowl685 7 months ago
More proof that the Vorlons are only another selfish race.
The Shadows give you Morden, Satan the warm friendly tempter, who will grant you your greatest wishes at the cost of dignity and lives. You are the most important thing in the universe.
The Vorlons give you Sebastian, Satan the cold sneering accuser, who will break your resolve and demoralize you as another deluded triviality. You are the most insignificant thing in the universe.
Beautiful mirror imagery.
AtenRa 8 months ago
@AtenRa But that isnt Sebastians job. Sebastian's job is to verify that you are indeed NOT insignificant. That you are someone who WILL change the galaxy.
Besides, this is the first and last time Sebastian is even allowed out of Vorlon space in a long time. So your analogy of Sebastian being a "Satan" doesnt hold up, as he is there to ONLY verify significance not to demoralize.
bluntman1138 8 months ago
@bluntman1138
i enjoy this interpretation very much so, and i agree totally!!! in my opinion, Sebastian represents the absolute truth of the undying self... and him drilling her brain like this is very similar to what some gurus do to show people their true nature. of course, gurus dont hurt people physically like this sebastian buddy... not the really good ones at least :( :(
maxthepyro 3 months ago
Those eyes could drain blood out of stone! Or make dead walk again.Guess I'll never meet her.Damn! So far for the walking...
MONSTER9451 8 months ago
honestly, somebody should interrogate the entire world with this question. I'm pretty sure human society would improve quite drastically, if everyone had to introspect for just half a minute, instead of running the useless rat race of life like manic mice
dchris1990 9 months ago
this is the classic argument of essentialism versus existentialism:
is a person what he or she does, thinks, feels, respects, loathes, serves, denies, or interacts with, along with the friends, foes, and relationships he or she develops
or
is a person something inherent and unchanging independent of anything he or she does or feels or relates to?
journeyman2mage 10 months ago
its funny (but typical) how most have no idea what this guy is talking about...he is trying to convince her she is not a body, basic metaphysics.
Colt2571 10 months ago
Jack the Ripper could be real, but King Arthur couldn't be real! One of the most unfair concepts of the entire show.
JoeHooker11 11 months ago
I would say that all Presidential Candidates should be questioned this hard, but I don't think we would have any more candidates afterward.
Deathknight400 11 months ago
Too bad it's a trick question, and ole Jack knew it too. :) His mocking of her about how she could not answer a "simple question" is pretty absurd if you think about it.
FractalFeline 11 months ago
@FractalFeline its not a trick question, its a metaphysical one and it has an answer
Colt2571 10 months ago
@Colt2571
Maybe you'll explain it?
FractalFeline 10 months ago
@FractalFeline i just did...she is not her body...her body has a name, associations, etc. he's trying to show her she is much more than that, she is consciousness, infinite consciousness. she doesnt understand this so she keeps giving unsatisfactory answers.
Colt2571 10 months ago
@Colt2571
That's not how I understood it but that's an interesting interpretation!
FractalFeline 10 months ago
wow! the most intense scene ever!!!
doctorw2 1 year ago
:sigh:
I miss this show. I haven't seen ANY other show that's in the same category.....
ikvsabre 1 year ago 2
The principal (Delenn) is being mocked it is her caste - preachers basically - it isn't necessary to mark it based on dialogue.
wildhobby 2 years ago
Only gave this 3 stars, because I don't really think it was good to start out with that religious quote at the beginning.
gribae 2 years ago
one of my fav episodes. when this one was on tv the commercial breaks seemed to drag on forever. by this point in the story the scale of what was unfolding was becoming more clear.
brilliant. thx for posting!
gothatfunk 2 years ago 2
Thanks!
I am planing to make more B5 videos, something like those "what do you want?" " what is god?" "Order vs. Chaos", "Light vs. Darkness"...
There are so many amazing dialogs and monologues throughout entire B5.
sahardoom 2 years ago
This was at the end of season 2 and the scope of the series didn't become clear until half-way through season 3.
So unless you actually read up on ancient Babylon (as much of the series is based on) while the series FIRST aired, then you are either smarter than most people or completely stupid.
gribae 2 years ago
i neither read up on ancient babylon, nor am i completely stupid, so i guess i must be smarter than most people?
i watched it while it was first airing, and i would say the penny dropped for me well before the episode featured here. by the time Emperor Turhan died (episode 9 season 2) i knew i was watching an epic saga, not merely a character drama.
gothatfunk 2 years ago
zupi!
TheMunjica 2 years ago
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sahardoom 2 years ago