hmmm its pretty simple, you just have to put the hammer a couple centimeters away from the drum and then make the same movements like you and we all can have 1,200 bpm
@Shooter854 Many have tried, you can count the number who have succeeded on one hand. So it's not so simple as that. There is a little truth in that however, if you learn the technique I am doing, and adjust your pedal to the appropriate feel, you will be able to play a lot faster than you ever could with a simple stroke and a pedal adjusted for power strokes.
I know you're just going for speed and all, but it seems like you're sacrificing good foot-board placement and technique just for this game. I'm not sure I get the point, because you're just doing sloppy heel-toe at high speeds. Doing clean heel-toe with proper technique at somewhat lower speeds seems like a much more useful and impressive task, which is why I don't understand what you're doing.
@RedCl0ud22 Playing sloppily at maximum speed trains you for even playing at lower speeds. The technique is very effective and controlled, allowing all sorts of new opportunities that are not available with most standard techniques. You can see in my video: Contra Video game remix a relatively even and musical demonstration of 16ths at 250 bpm. I wouldn't be able to do this without training at my max speed demonstrated here.
Sorry bro it was fast but it looks like you used heal toe method. That and it wasn't very clean you left foot dragged and it made both your hammers hit at the same time a few times. Nice try though. Practice will make that heal toe method really clean then it'll look and sound really good
@MrDougToo 1.There is no law against heel/toe. The only rule is that the strokes alternate one for one between feet. 2.Cleanliness doesnt matter in a speed contest. The only thing that matters is high numbers of beats hit. When two beats hit at the same time, as I admit they do sometimes, the drumometer only counts it as one hit so I did lose several points to that. 3. Ive practiced quite a bit and can play extremely clean and even at. lower speeds BECAUSE ive practiced at this speed
This is cool, but honestly..its a bit misleading, im a bass player so no one jump down but throat,it looks like you didnt take real strokes with the pedal it didnt move like a real drummer should step on his pedals, i mean it got the job done, it just looks a bit odd like that style can only be used like this an not in real songs.
@MrMetalcobra Check out my video called Contra: Nintendo Soundtrack remix and you will see this skill used in what I would call a real song. What you are seeing is a more controlled, smaller stroke, which when obtained, allows me to play faster than most people. You will have the same results on bass if you have a smaller controlled motion among your fingers. You probably know this already.
ok dude i can still pedal fast and i got size 13 feet no longboards just straight up regular pedal from pearl and its a p902 double so i dont see why u need a fricken longboard. god man just try it with out longboards
@10monfort Thats because you're not using a true heel-toe technique like I am. It requires the entire foot to fit on the board. Most pedals are too small for size 13 and up.
There is really nothing special about that. First of all, your using axis, who cares if you have big feet? thats not why people use longboards you dipshit. Second, i dont hate triggers, i actually think they are pretty sick, but when people tighten their bass drum head so that it fuckin screams and then fill it with pillows or blankets and use the triggers to mask the sound of their over tightened bass and it sounds like rolling thunder, thats just fuckin retarded! so you sir, are, in my opinion
@augusthour4 Your naivety about speed techniques shows in your comments. A long board is REQUIRED for true heel toe technique if your foot is longer than a standard board. The tight head and pillows are to ensure that the drumometer counts accurately. If you knew anything about speed drumming youd know this but instead you make comments as if you know it all, revealing that you dont know anything. You should approach things with a more humble attitude and you wont make a fool of yourself again.
@Dreammotive i dont give a shit about speed drumming. I give a shit about just drumming. seriously, it isnt a sport and people like you piss me off. You are talking down to everyone on this video about speed drumming like its some impressive thing. Real drummers like Tony Royster Jr., Danny Seraphine, thomas pridgden, even fuckin krupa, would bend your ass over and beat you when it come sdown to actually drumming. Stop being ignorant and stop thinking of drumming as a fucking sport.
@augusthour4 Speed drumming is a sport. Thats why you have no reason to be angry. ITS OK for people to have contests on how fast they can drum. Ive never claimed to be a better drummer than anyone and I agree that all the drummers you mentioned are way better than me. I only talk down to people who try to insult me with false statements and present themselves as a know-it-all. If you will look again at the comments I have never talked down to anyone that has made a respectful comment.
@raokin466 NO FUCKOING SHIT, CAPTAIN SPASTIK, i know they dont make people go faster, they make a louder noise when you tap it very lightly, so your not very good if you can only use triggers to make iyour double kick sound clear!!
@OneSpudd Did I by mistake mentionned that triggers are the only way to make the sound of the bass drum clearer? I don't think so, you fucking dumbass
@raokin466 you are a complete spastic arent you, im trying to tell you i know what triggers do and that you dont need to tell me you fucking minda child
@DaveyDooM92 Obviously, but i mean, tha everyone can be fast using axis, not using another pedals. I don't think that you can use that technique with other pedals, and if you can i would like to see it. Peace .\/..
@13SamuelDavid There's some truth to that. Its not because axis is particularly faster, its because they have longboards. So for me, with size 14 feet, it does require an axis or other longboard, maybe a demon drive or Trick pedal
@IronBoundNorway that would be an insult to all drummers who compete in speed contests. Its quite useful for developing the chops that can be used in music
@Rhapsody3991 Then you're an absolute moron because the title says exactly what the video is and you clicked on it, and saw depicted exactly what is described in the title. Maybe next time dont click on videos with titles describing things you dont want to see
@Rhapsody3991 If i did heel up i wouldnt be able to obtain this record, along with the rest of the heel-up drummers of which none can play this fast, because heel-up is inferior to heel-toe at speed. Also, what is hiper-strings? Never heard that before.
@Rhapsody3991@Rhapsody3991 its not tight at all. you have to be very relaxed or you will lock up very quick. You can find Roddy/Kollias playing in the upper 900s per minute over perhaps ten seconds. but nothing close to 1100 over a minute
@Dreammotive lol you are trying to say that you can't do what they do but they can't do what you do? believe me... they can but they are drummers not feet epileptics
@Rhapsody3991 I cant drum overall like them, they are certainly way better drummers, All im claiming is to be able to play faster, which is true, and without straining, using a relaxed repeatable controlled motion
@ricmat44 Thats ok, because real musicians know that soft notes are musical too, and all levels of volume are useful in a musical situation. As your musical maturity expands, you will learn the value of dynamics as well.
@Dreammotive sem duvida nenhuma é uma coisa incrivel a velocidade é muito rapida o pedal da Axis contribui. sem duvida o melhor pedal duplo que existe!!!
@coasternut3091 yea it is a good thing, because if i put a lot of power into it, energy would be wasted, which would mean my technique is worse, and my speed would come down. Zero power is a sign of technical mastery of speed so I appreciate the compliment, though I disagree and believe there is still a lot of power that could be converted to speed here. I have a ways to go yet
@poopcookies7 do you think Kollias doesnt use mics at his concerts on his bass drum? everyone amplifies their instruments in one way or another. Because it is pointless if you cant hear it. Thats why i use triggers, others like Kollias or Roddy use mics, or guitarists use amps, because its not loud enough to hear without it. DUH
@Dreammotive ya they but they only need triggers becas of how fast they go. in their videos you c them playing faster but actually hitting the bassdrum
@connertjee Thats because the heel is coming down to make the second stroke. That is the key to this technique and the concept is used in every record breaking speed technique. Drummers that dont use some form of compound stroke will never be as fast as those who do. Applies to hand speed too.
@Dreammotive Cool thing dude! I use standard ddrum triggers and was thinking of doing something to move the trigger closer to the hitting point. This is a good idea! Thanks
@cvcgac Well crap! And title of this video is USA's most powerful drummer! How embarrassing! Im not even close to being the most powerful drummer in the world!
@Dreammotive Yea i mean its cool and all and i even respect it that you've used up so much time but do you really think that it was worth usin so much time on kick speed?
@cvcgac That's actually a very deep question. Well, 1st of all im very glad to have the chops to be able top play double bass like I want to and im still looking for a metal band to play in. But as far as having the the highest score in my country, I dont really know. Something drives you to be competitive and beat others at things, even as arbitrary as how many times you can hit a drum in a minute. I dont know, Why do humans compete at anything? Is there any value in the Olympics?
@dfurnaridrummer If you dont want to be talked down to dont come & try to insult me. If youre going to make a ridiculous statement like "this is utterly useless" then I am going to point out how silly it is. If you can play at 280 bpm for a minute straight weakly & unevenly, you can slow it down and nail the evenness & decent power on speeds around 250 bpm. So in fact its quite useful because barely playing at higher speeds allows you to play quite well a few notches down
@christanmusiczordude If you want to call Pete Sandoval as well as several other founders of death metal USELESS go right ahead. I dont have to respond to that because a statement that ignorant speaks for itself
@dfurnaridrummer You may not be aware of this but there is actually a genre of music called metal, and the drummers of these "metal" bands use very similar skills in most of their songs. It's not as lucrative as pop music, but there is a very large fan base and it brings enjoyment to millions of people.
Tim Waterston being a douche bag is my opinion. You like the guy, that's cool. I already acknowledged the fact that an RLRL beater pattern is considered singles, but the actual motion of your feet is doubles. And seriously dude, I beat the hell out of my kicks but trigger them due to the fact that alot of inexperienced sound guys don't know how to mic 2 kicks. You hitting your kicks as softly as you do and relying SOLELY on the triggers for sound is NOT drumming.
@BleedtheDrummer Tim Waterson is like the friendliest guy in the world so if you think hes a douchebag theres something wrong with YOU. Its not just WFD but every textbook thats ever written on drum technique acknowledges that RLRL is single strokes. And no I will not enter WFD because Ive emailed them repeatedly to ask about upcoming events & they never respond. It is a useful technique, just trigger or mic it, thats why guitar players use amps, so a quiet instrument can be heard.
Ok dude you ARE doing doubles no matter what your beater pattern is. And yes I realize the WFD acknowledges that beater pattern is all that matters, but you're still doing doubles. I had the same stupid argument with Tim Waterston, (a complete douche bag btw). And while this IS impressive from a pure speed standpoint, it's completely useless in a musical setting due to the fact that you're barely touching the drum head.
@BleedtheDrummer Thanks for letting me know that my singles are doubles. Next time I will alternate my strokes in a RLRL pattern instead of the RLRL pattern Im using now. But since you say RLRL equals double strokes, what would RRLL be called?
are you doing heel heel toe toe? because if so then that is single strokes because the notes alternate between the feet even though your feet are doing doubles. singles by a musical difinition.
@DissYraiN Finally! Someone who has actually read the definition of single strokes. Yep that's my pattern: R heel, L Heel, R toe, L toe. Its not double strokes
@joaogodooy Yeah, A straight run over a minute with sloppy sections is not much use in a song. But when you train to beat the records you have skills that can cross over to plenty of musical situations. If you slow down a bit below max and lower the duration you will be able to control it and play evenly. When you push it to your max you find the lower speeds to be a breeze.
@Dreammotive Useless? I think he's jealous. It's like playing scales over and over. They're not fun, but they teach you intonation and rythim. Practice makes perfect.
@SilenceSlayer224 True, and practicing a scale is not music in itself but inbeds a skill that can be used to make music. The fun part is trying to beat the world records. And thats what I appreciate about speed drumming. I would never have gotten so far if there was not a bar to beat. Tim Waterson set a record of 650 long ago and it was because of that I pushed til I could beat it. (drumrival has the record now with over 750 on both feet, he's inhuman)
Not necessarily fake, but he is using triggers, which in my opinion makes it an invalid number unless this is a who is the fastest with triggers contest.
this is a who is the fastest with triggers contest. But the trigger part is inconsequential, knowing that triggers do nothing to increase ones speed. However, you can definitely say that to succeed at this contest, you must sacrifice power for speed, which I have done. Some drummers want more power, others want more speed. Learn the appropriate technique for your goal.
@Dreammotive yeah ok but in the beggining it was said that the fastest record for single strokes was 1800+ and ur doing double strokes so i think ur whole thing is invalid
@SuperGilbs I just go by the centuries old uncontested textbook definition of single strokes, not some arbitrary definition that changes from person to person, so yeah, its still valid as a single stroke record. Not fastest in the world anymore, but in the USA.
@Dreammotive yeah ok but in the beggining it was said that the fastest record for single strokes was 1100+ and ur doing double strokes so i think ur whole thing is invalid
@aWalkingAnomaly You have no idea what you are talking about do you? Technically the counter itself is kinda a trigger, just doesnt change the sound or have an output. So does that make every WFD tournament ever bullshit? By the way, triggers are very useful for live performances and recording to save on set up time and ensure that you have good sound. Manipulating them with MIDI is a different story.
@wyattbulletproofearp yes, anytime you're trying to max out your score you have burning in the leg muscles. If you don't, it means you're not pushing as hard as you could.
you'r beaters are 2cm away from the head and you have no rebound on your pedal, your heel lightly taps and its choppy n triggered. I dont mean to be an ass but i dont see the merit in this video there was no rythym and no constant tempo it was just as many hits in an alotted time.
@Dreammotive Your retarded. No skill in this. like he said..barely tapping..plus this is double strokes. I don't understand why people try to set the record or even waste their time doing this shit. Takes the art out of drumming. Any speed over 900 is too much. Unless you want to sound like br33 br33 which is REEALY dumb. Dont get me wrong, metal is awesome, i mosh and shit and drum to it..but seriously...
@SuperBlastBeat I guess you just dont appreciate fast double bass. I think rolls at 1200 bpm are beautiful. But i can understand if you only appreciate beats up to 900 per minute why you would not like this. But it does take skill. Truthfully only a few in the world can do it. As far as double strokes go, study a percussion textbook a little bit and you will learn the terminology.
@antthez that would be drumrival. Look him up on youtube. There are several of us who can beat inferno. Drumrival makes him look very slow, makes me look very slow too.
@jakehembree the head is as hard as a wall to ensure accurate counting. If you have a loose head the drumometer will count the reverberations as hits. And this makes it harder because you have no rebound. Like playing with sticks on a book rather than a drum head. It doesnt help you any.
It is impressive to go that fast singe strokes but i'm less impressed with the methods. Not saying getting that many notes is easy or that you are cheating man but come on. I've never seen a beater closer to a head in my life and i've seen alot of tappers. I know this is purely for speed but still. Your beater distance makes tim waterson look like george kollias.... WHy even move the beaters off the head. You could just set the trigger hypers sensitive and vibrate your feet to vibrate it
@TheGrindcorps Within your criticism is the very secret of speed. If George Kollias could control his strokes with as small a movement as me, he would be able to play faster than me. But he took the power path and that will always cost him speed. Simply vibrating your feet with sensitive triggers will not work. It does not come out even at all.
Because you'd play a song with the beaters that close to the head ? I just dont get the point of it lol, heel toe spamming with a 1 inch spread :/ Thats what'll get you a record i guess heh
Yes, But it's all in my head! I learned double bass specifically so I could play in a metal band but havent found any one in my area who wants to play yet. So I just jam by myself and along with other band tracks sometimes. For high speed rolls i use the technique shown. For low speed rolls <180bpm I use a standard heels up downstroke. For intricate patterns and normal drum beats I use heels down downstrokes. For hands I use mainly the Gladstone and im training up the push-pull.
@Dreammotive where is your local area cos im a death metal guitarrist looking for like minded in cardiff but everyone only realy seems interested in deathcore or shitty "hardcore" breakdowny rubbish.
which makes perfect sense because triggers expose inconsistent rhythm to a greater degree than non-triggered. Also, the point is not sound but score in this sport.
I use the same technique and with triggers. But I don't play 294 bpm 16th note rolls for a minute straight in a musical situation so consistency is not as much a struggle. For instance, when attempting a high score you have to keep your muscles relaxed in order to last a full minute. If I was playing this speed for only 10 seconds I could push each note a lot harder and insure consistency but my energy fuel would run out much quicker.
screw the haters. They're just jealous that they can't compete with that. Of course this is nonmusical, just like the record for fastest paradiddles and so forth. keep up the good work!
Thanks man. Yea, you can see all over youtube when someone does something cool there are more negative comments then anything because people are insecure and have to trash talk to feel better about themselves. It's an interesting part of human psychology I think. And right, this is not music by itself but demonstrates a technique which can certainly be applied to music when you get it down.
Seriously, put something up on youtube thats not absolutely perfect and you get completely trashed! Ive got a lot of tips for someone who is attempting this technique. 1stly, what technique(s) are you training with to maximize your speed?
not to mention the fact that it isn't necessary to post videos of this. if you think you can play fast, well great, but the vanity of posting it is really pathetic.
this is just dumb. please please tell me what the point of this is. no one cares. seriously. its not musical at all. if this was in a song it would be retarded. a minute and a half of straight double bass at a speed that sounds like a dead car trying to start? if you can give me a legitimate reason for all this "double bass speed hype" please enlighten me. and don't say all this "trying to better myself and technique" bs, because there are incredible dummers who wouldnt even give a shit
The point of this video specifically is mainly for competition. It's for the same reason that people post of themselves beating the rubics cube record, or completing Mario Bros 3 in 5 minutes. Its cool to be able to see people accomplishing extreme feats and it is enjoyed by many people. A good side effect is having the foot drumming chops to play anything with your feet which really frees up musical possibilities. There are lots of D-bass lovers out there its just not for you apparently.
i just don't think its musical in anyway, which seems counter productive since its being done on a musical intrument. it wouldnt make sense to see how fast you can strum a guitar or how quickly you can type in cheats for an xbox game. speed pertains to all of those, but only to a certain degree.
Correct, this performance is not a musical one but a physical one, also known as sport. Any event which people consider worthy to compete in is relevant. And maximum speed drumming happens to be one of those. I never claimed to be a great musician because of this. It's sport and that's all. But the benefit is that the chops gained from the training can be used for gorgeous musical situations. I love the sound of extreme double bass.
You don't kick hard enough. Fail.
alcoholocaust 1 week ago
@alcoholocaust lLol we have the worlds official kick hardness judge here
Dreammotive 1 week ago
hmmm its pretty simple, you just have to put the hammer a couple centimeters away from the drum and then make the same movements like you and we all can have 1,200 bpm
Shooter854 2 weeks ago
@Shooter854 Many have tried, you can count the number who have succeeded on one hand. So it's not so simple as that. There is a little truth in that however, if you learn the technique I am doing, and adjust your pedal to the appropriate feel, you will be able to play a lot faster than you ever could with a simple stroke and a pedal adjusted for power strokes.
Dreammotive 2 weeks ago
I know you're just going for speed and all, but it seems like you're sacrificing good foot-board placement and technique just for this game. I'm not sure I get the point, because you're just doing sloppy heel-toe at high speeds. Doing clean heel-toe with proper technique at somewhat lower speeds seems like a much more useful and impressive task, which is why I don't understand what you're doing.
RedCl0ud22 1 month ago
@RedCl0ud22 Playing sloppily at maximum speed trains you for even playing at lower speeds. The technique is very effective and controlled, allowing all sorts of new opportunities that are not available with most standard techniques. You can see in my video: Contra Video game remix a relatively even and musical demonstration of 16ths at 250 bpm. I wouldn't be able to do this without training at my max speed demonstrated here.
Dreammotive 1 month ago
@Dreammotive If you say so...
RedCl0ud22 1 month ago
@RedCl0ud22 Its not true because I say it, its true because you can see it in the video I mentioned.
Dreammotive 1 month ago
Sorry bro it was fast but it looks like you used heal toe method. That and it wasn't very clean you left foot dragged and it made both your hammers hit at the same time a few times. Nice try though. Practice will make that heal toe method really clean then it'll look and sound really good
MrDougToo 1 month ago
@MrDougToo 1.There is no law against heel/toe. The only rule is that the strokes alternate one for one between feet. 2.Cleanliness doesnt matter in a speed contest. The only thing that matters is high numbers of beats hit. When two beats hit at the same time, as I admit they do sometimes, the drumometer only counts it as one hit so I did lose several points to that. 3. Ive practiced quite a bit and can play extremely clean and even at. lower speeds BECAUSE ive practiced at this speed
Dreammotive 1 month ago
This is cool, but honestly..its a bit misleading, im a bass player so no one jump down but throat,it looks like you didnt take real strokes with the pedal it didnt move like a real drummer should step on his pedals, i mean it got the job done, it just looks a bit odd like that style can only be used like this an not in real songs.
MrMetalcobra 1 month ago
@MrMetalcobra Check out my video called Contra: Nintendo Soundtrack remix and you will see this skill used in what I would call a real song. What you are seeing is a more controlled, smaller stroke, which when obtained, allows me to play faster than most people. You will have the same results on bass if you have a smaller controlled motion among your fingers. You probably know this already.
Dreammotive 1 month ago
ok dude i can still pedal fast and i got size 13 feet no longboards just straight up regular pedal from pearl and its a p902 double so i dont see why u need a fricken longboard. god man just try it with out longboards
10monfort 2 months ago
@10monfort Thats because you're not using a true heel-toe technique like I am. It requires the entire foot to fit on the board. Most pedals are too small for size 13 and up.
Dreammotive 2 months ago
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why dont you actually try playing the drums you lazy piece of shit
badactorz69 2 months ago
a fake. thank you for you time
augusthour4 3 months ago
There is really nothing special about that. First of all, your using axis, who cares if you have big feet? thats not why people use longboards you dipshit. Second, i dont hate triggers, i actually think they are pretty sick, but when people tighten their bass drum head so that it fuckin screams and then fill it with pillows or blankets and use the triggers to mask the sound of their over tightened bass and it sounds like rolling thunder, thats just fuckin retarded! so you sir, are, in my opinion
augusthour4 3 months ago
@augusthour4 Your naivety about speed techniques shows in your comments. A long board is REQUIRED for true heel toe technique if your foot is longer than a standard board. The tight head and pillows are to ensure that the drumometer counts accurately. If you knew anything about speed drumming youd know this but instead you make comments as if you know it all, revealing that you dont know anything. You should approach things with a more humble attitude and you wont make a fool of yourself again.
Dreammotive 2 months ago
@Dreammotive i dont give a shit about speed drumming. I give a shit about just drumming. seriously, it isnt a sport and people like you piss me off. You are talking down to everyone on this video about speed drumming like its some impressive thing. Real drummers like Tony Royster Jr., Danny Seraphine, thomas pridgden, even fuckin krupa, would bend your ass over and beat you when it come sdown to actually drumming. Stop being ignorant and stop thinking of drumming as a fucking sport.
augusthour4 2 months ago
@augusthour4 Speed drumming is a sport. Thats why you have no reason to be angry. ITS OK for people to have contests on how fast they can drum. Ive never claimed to be a better drummer than anyone and I agree that all the drummers you mentioned are way better than me. I only talk down to people who try to insult me with false statements and present themselves as a know-it-all. If you will look again at the comments I have never talked down to anyone that has made a respectful comment.
Dreammotive 2 months ago
dude, your using triggers
OneSpudd 3 months ago
@OneSpudd dude, your making comments
Dreammotive 3 months ago
@Dreammotive yeah i am, but using triggers, dosent make you the fastest
OneSpudd 3 months ago
@OneSpudd Congrats sir, you just noticed he's using triggers. Does that make him go faster?
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Triggers don't make people go faster, they just modify the sounds of the bass drum. THATS IT !!
raokin466 3 months ago
@raokin466 NO FUCKOING SHIT, CAPTAIN SPASTIK, i know they dont make people go faster, they make a louder noise when you tap it very lightly, so your not very good if you can only use triggers to make iyour double kick sound clear!!
OneSpudd 3 months ago
@OneSpudd Did I by mistake mentionned that triggers are the only way to make the sound of the bass drum clearer? I don't think so, you fucking dumbass
raokin466 3 months ago
@raokin466 you are a complete spastic arent you, im trying to tell you i know what triggers do and that you dont need to tell me you fucking minda child
OneSpudd 3 months ago
@OneSpudd well, thats a cool story bro
raokin466 3 months ago
Oh yeah? Try doing that on other pedals. Everybody can be fast with a fucking axis
13SamuelDavid 4 months ago
@13SamuelDavid Have you ever played Axis peddles? They don't do the work for you, utter moron.
DaveyDooM92 4 months ago
@DaveyDooM92 Obviously, but i mean, tha everyone can be fast using axis, not using another pedals. I don't think that you can use that technique with other pedals, and if you can i would like to see it. Peace .\/..
13SamuelDavid 4 months ago
@13SamuelDavid There's some truth to that. Its not because axis is particularly faster, its because they have longboards. So for me, with size 14 feet, it does require an axis or other longboard, maybe a demon drive or Trick pedal
Dreammotive 3 months ago
@IronBoundNorway that would be an insult to all drummers who compete in speed contests. Its quite useful for developing the chops that can be used in music
Dreammotive 5 months ago
gayest thing i've ever seen
bro4lifeful 5 months ago
This is so lame. Complete popcorn.
DRUMMERDAVEKINKADE 5 months ago
i've wasted 1 minute and 23 seconds of my life... + 10 to write this comment... thanks a lot man!
Rhapsody3991 5 months ago
@Rhapsody3991 Then you're an absolute moron because the title says exactly what the video is and you clicked on it, and saw depicted exactly what is described in the title. Maybe next time dont click on videos with titles describing things you dont want to see
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive u call this drumming? i call it hiper strings + heel toe... next time heel up then i will accept it sry
Rhapsody3991 5 months ago
@Rhapsody3991 If i did heel up i wouldnt be able to obtain this record, along with the rest of the heel-up drummers of which none can play this fast, because heel-up is inferior to heel-toe at speed. Also, what is hiper-strings? Never heard that before.
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive go check george kollias... or derek roddy... or other armateur vids bout drummers...
Rhapsody3991 5 months ago
@Rhapsody3991 ive seen virtually all Kollias and Roddy videos on youtube. dont recall anything about hiper strings
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive omg hiper is a way to say very tight... btw they CAN
Rhapsody3991 5 months ago
@Rhapsody3991 @Rhapsody3991 its not tight at all. you have to be very relaxed or you will lock up very quick. You can find Roddy/Kollias playing in the upper 900s per minute over perhaps ten seconds. but nothing close to 1100 over a minute
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive lol you are trying to say that you can't do what they do but they can't do what you do? believe me... they can but they are drummers not feet epileptics
Rhapsody3991 5 months ago
@Rhapsody3991 I cant drum overall like them, they are certainly way better drummers, All im claiming is to be able to play faster, which is true, and without straining, using a relaxed repeatable controlled motion
Dreammotive 5 months ago
ara essa tecnica é interessante mais nao faiz som o suficiente, entao eu não gostei!
ricmat44 5 months ago
@ricmat44 Thats ok, because real musicians know that soft notes are musical too, and all levels of volume are useful in a musical situation. As your musical maturity expands, you will learn the value of dynamics as well.
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive sem duvida nenhuma é uma coisa incrivel a velocidade é muito rapida o pedal da Axis contribui. sem duvida o melhor pedal duplo que existe!!!
ricmat44 5 months ago
@ricmat44 i agree
Dreammotive 5 months ago
FAKE AND GAY
Arkain9 7 months ago
Good thing there's ZERO power there
coasternut3091 7 months ago
@coasternut3091 yea it is a good thing, because if i put a lot of power into it, energy would be wasted, which would mean my technique is worse, and my speed would come down. Zero power is a sign of technical mastery of speed so I appreciate the compliment, though I disagree and believe there is still a lot of power that could be converted to speed here. I have a ways to go yet
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive yea but if you didnt have triggers then u wouldnt hear anything and it would be pointless to be fast if u cant hear it
poopcookies7 5 months ago
@poopcookies7 do you think Kollias doesnt use mics at his concerts on his bass drum? everyone amplifies their instruments in one way or another. Because it is pointless if you cant hear it. Thats why i use triggers, others like Kollias or Roddy use mics, or guitarists use amps, because its not loud enough to hear without it. DUH
Dreammotive 5 months ago
@Dreammotive ya they but they only need triggers becas of how fast they go. in their videos you c them playing faster but actually hitting the bassdrum
poopcookies7 5 months ago
this is fake, every time you lift you feet up it hits again so with a single stap you hit 2
connertjee 7 months ago
@connertjee Thats because the heel is coming down to make the second stroke. That is the key to this technique and the concept is used in every record breaking speed technique. Drummers that dont use some form of compound stroke will never be as fast as those who do. Applies to hand speed too.
Dreammotive 7 months ago 2
@Dreammotive aaaah okey, well i don't use that technique so i didn't know that haha! (i use original double bass)
connertjee 7 months ago
@Dreammotive I really like the thing with the trigger. is it home made?
doctormigget 7 months ago
@doctormigget home made, I call it as trigger bridge. Allows for maximum accuracy by placing the trigger right beside the beaters
Dreammotive 7 months ago
@Dreammotive Cool thing dude! I use standard ddrum triggers and was thinking of doing something to move the trigger closer to the hitting point. This is a good idea! Thanks
doctormigget 7 months ago
@Dreammotive I really like the thing with the trigger. Is it home made?
doctormigget 7 months ago
@Dreammotive I really like the thing with the trigger. Is it home made?
doctormigget 7 months ago
Not really impressive.
KHfan4ever23 7 months ago
With your kick power you get......NOTHING! Wouldnt even kill a mosquito
cvcgac 8 months ago
@cvcgac Well crap! And title of this video is USA's most powerful drummer! How embarrassing! Im not even close to being the most powerful drummer in the world!
Dreammotive 8 months ago
@Dreammotive Yea i mean its cool and all and i even respect it that you've used up so much time but do you really think that it was worth usin so much time on kick speed?
cvcgac 8 months ago
@cvcgac That's actually a very deep question. Well, 1st of all im very glad to have the chops to be able top play double bass like I want to and im still looking for a metal band to play in. But as far as having the the highest score in my country, I dont really know. Something drives you to be competitive and beat others at things, even as arbitrary as how many times you can hit a drum in a minute. I dont know, Why do humans compete at anything? Is there any value in the Olympics?
Dreammotive 8 months ago
@Dreammotive Dude. Whatever you do, dont stop cus your already so far but start workin on other stuff next. And aim for the same goal on those :D
cvcgac 8 months ago
@dfurnaridrummer If you dont want to be talked down to dont come & try to insult me. If youre going to make a ridiculous statement like "this is utterly useless" then I am going to point out how silly it is. If you can play at 280 bpm for a minute straight weakly & unevenly, you can slow it down and nail the evenness & decent power on speeds around 250 bpm. So in fact its quite useful because barely playing at higher speeds allows you to play quite well a few notches down
Dreammotive 8 months ago
@Dreammotive it IS utterly USELESS. Not only are triggers for people who can't play with enough power, also it looks silly.
christanmusiczordude 8 months ago
@christanmusiczordude If you want to call Pete Sandoval as well as several other founders of death metal USELESS go right ahead. I dont have to respond to that because a statement that ignorant speaks for itself
Dreammotive 8 months ago
Thats nice and all, but what an utterly useless skill...
dfurnaridrummer 8 months ago
@dfurnaridrummer You may not be aware of this but there is actually a genre of music called metal, and the drummers of these "metal" bands use very similar skills in most of their songs. It's not as lucrative as pop music, but there is a very large fan base and it brings enjoyment to millions of people.
Dreammotive 8 months ago
Tim Waterston being a douche bag is my opinion. You like the guy, that's cool. I already acknowledged the fact that an RLRL beater pattern is considered singles, but the actual motion of your feet is doubles. And seriously dude, I beat the hell out of my kicks but trigger them due to the fact that alot of inexperienced sound guys don't know how to mic 2 kicks. You hitting your kicks as softly as you do and relying SOLELY on the triggers for sound is NOT drumming.
BleedtheDrummer 8 months ago
And I hope you aren't seriously thinking of competing because there's no way in hell the WFD officials will let you set your beaters that close.
BleedtheDrummer 8 months ago
@BleedtheDrummer Tim Waterson is like the friendliest guy in the world so if you think hes a douchebag theres something wrong with YOU. Its not just WFD but every textbook thats ever written on drum technique acknowledges that RLRL is single strokes. And no I will not enter WFD because Ive emailed them repeatedly to ask about upcoming events & they never respond. It is a useful technique, just trigger or mic it, thats why guitar players use amps, so a quiet instrument can be heard.
Dreammotive 8 months ago
Ok dude you ARE doing doubles no matter what your beater pattern is. And yes I realize the WFD acknowledges that beater pattern is all that matters, but you're still doing doubles. I had the same stupid argument with Tim Waterston, (a complete douche bag btw). And while this IS impressive from a pure speed standpoint, it's completely useless in a musical setting due to the fact that you're barely touching the drum head.
BleedtheDrummer 8 months ago
Sweet. Except you're doing doubles not singles.
BleedtheDrummer 8 months ago
@BleedtheDrummer Thanks for letting me know that my singles are doubles. Next time I will alternate my strokes in a RLRL pattern instead of the RLRL pattern Im using now. But since you say RLRL equals double strokes, what would RRLL be called?
Dreammotive 8 months ago
I would like to hear this without triggers, and without a mice.
You wouldn't hear a shit, thats the real deal. STOP CHEATING
D3adMetal 9 months ago
@D3adMetal Check out my video called "(was) the fastest double bass on youtube" Its about the same speed, plenty of volume and no triggers or...mice.
Dreammotive 9 months ago
are you doing heel heel toe toe? because if so then that is single strokes because the notes alternate between the feet even though your feet are doing doubles. singles by a musical difinition.
DissYraiN 10 months ago
@DissYraiN Finally! Someone who has actually read the definition of single strokes. Yep that's my pattern: R heel, L Heel, R toe, L toe. Its not double strokes
Dreammotive 10 months ago
this is useless
joaogodooy 10 months ago
@joaogodooy To you perhaps, but i have helped several people with their technique to improve their speed
Dreammotive 10 months ago
@Dreammotive let me correct: this is useless in a song
joaogodooy 10 months ago
@joaogodooy Yeah, A straight run over a minute with sloppy sections is not much use in a song. But when you train to beat the records you have skills that can cross over to plenty of musical situations. If you slow down a bit below max and lower the duration you will be able to control it and play evenly. When you push it to your max you find the lower speeds to be a breeze.
Dreammotive 10 months ago
@Dreammotive agreed ;)
joaogodooy 10 months ago
@Dreammotive Useless? I think he's jealous. It's like playing scales over and over. They're not fun, but they teach you intonation and rythim. Practice makes perfect.
SilenceSlayer224 9 months ago
@SilenceSlayer224 True, and practicing a scale is not music in itself but inbeds a skill that can be used to make music. The fun part is trying to beat the world records. And thats what I appreciate about speed drumming. I would never have gotten so far if there was not a bar to beat. Tim Waterson set a record of 650 long ago and it was because of that I pushed til I could beat it. (drumrival has the record now with over 750 on both feet, he's inhuman)
Dreammotive 9 months ago
now make music
nigollllll 10 months ago
featherdusting.....still amazing though
blastbeatingjerk666 10 months ago
heel toe does not count.....not a world record
anticannobis 11 months ago
You bought axis thinking they would make you fast but your slow and you wasted 600 bucks!!!!! haha jk good work dude
AvengedSevenfoldDrum 11 months ago
@AvengedSevenfoldDrum Axis definitely made me faster. I could not do this without a longboard. So its axis or trick or i cant do it.
Dreammotive 11 months ago
Not necessarily fake, but he is using triggers, which in my opinion makes it an invalid number unless this is a who is the fastest with triggers contest.
aWalkingAnomaly 11 months ago
@aWalkingAnomaly
this is a who is the fastest with triggers contest. But the trigger part is inconsequential, knowing that triggers do nothing to increase ones speed. However, you can definitely say that to succeed at this contest, you must sacrifice power for speed, which I have done. Some drummers want more power, others want more speed. Learn the appropriate technique for your goal.
Dreammotive 11 months ago
@Dreammotive yeah ok but in the beggining it was said that the fastest record for single strokes was 1800+ and ur doing double strokes so i think ur whole thing is invalid
SuperGilbs 11 months ago
@SuperGilbs I just go by the centuries old uncontested textbook definition of single strokes, not some arbitrary definition that changes from person to person, so yeah, its still valid as a single stroke record. Not fastest in the world anymore, but in the USA.
Dreammotive 11 months ago
@Dreammotive ok have fun with that
SuperGilbs 11 months ago
@Dreammotive yeah ok but in the beggining it was said that the fastest record for single strokes was 1100+ and ur doing double strokes so i think ur whole thing is invalid
SuperGilbs 11 months ago
@aWalkingAnomaly You have no idea what you are talking about do you? Technically the counter itself is kinda a trigger, just doesnt change the sound or have an output. So does that make every WFD tournament ever bullshit? By the way, triggers are very useful for live performances and recording to save on set up time and ensure that you have good sound. Manipulating them with MIDI is a different story.
falconer6439 9 months ago
it seems fake to me and i also say that i could never reach that record or speed
frusciboy 1 year ago
heel toe dosent count in WFD so this is not real record...
hyrael2 1 year ago
play rockband or guitar hero :D
BodomBlastBeats 1 year ago
fucking tapping
JOEYJORDlS0N 1 year ago
@JOEYJORDlS0N No man its just tapping. F-ing is in my other videos but i dont put those on youtube
Dreammotive 1 year ago 12
Awww almost!
legend9100 1 year ago
wow...so your legs must really hurt after that "intense workout"......hmmmm....
wyattbulletproofearp 1 year ago
@wyattbulletproofearp yes, anytime you're trying to max out your score you have burning in the leg muscles. If you don't, it means you're not pushing as hard as you could.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
@Dreammotive you tell him coach
TheHardcoreArtist 1 year ago
you'r beaters are 2cm away from the head and you have no rebound on your pedal, your heel lightly taps and its choppy n triggered. I dont mean to be an ass but i dont see the merit in this video there was no rythym and no constant tempo it was just as many hits in an alotted time.
Left3332rot 1 year ago
@Left3332rot good observation. now you know what it takes to break the speed records
Dreammotive 1 year ago
@Dreammotive Your retarded. No skill in this. like he said..barely tapping..plus this is double strokes. I don't understand why people try to set the record or even waste their time doing this shit. Takes the art out of drumming. Any speed over 900 is too much. Unless you want to sound like br33 br33 which is REEALY dumb. Dont get me wrong, metal is awesome, i mosh and shit and drum to it..but seriously...
SuperBlastBeat 1 year ago
@SuperBlastBeat I guess you just dont appreciate fast double bass. I think rolls at 1200 bpm are beautiful. But i can understand if you only appreciate beats up to 900 per minute why you would not like this. But it does take skill. Truthfully only a few in the world can do it. As far as double strokes go, study a percussion textbook a little bit and you will learn the terminology.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
Who is the faster drummer ?? Inferno? :o
antthez 1 year ago
@antthez that would be drumrival. Look him up on youtube. There are several of us who can beat inferno. Drumrival makes him look very slow, makes me look very slow too.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
@Dreammotive I mean, this isn'nt music xD, Inferno is one of the faster drummer in the metal genre :P
antthez 1 year ago
@antthez right, we werent talking about music. We were talking about speed drumming.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
@antthez GEORGES KOLLIAS !!!!!!!!!!! the drummer of Nile
jockerboofer 1 year ago
@jockerboofer Actully (sorry for bad spelling) I don't think so, not so much that i've heard from him and Zbigniew
antthez 1 year ago
fuck . . . your using heel toe thats cheating bitch >X(
smileschannel1 1 year ago
lies, drumrival has 1530 bpm
StupidBrokenHeart1 1 year ago
@StupidBrokenHeart1 no lies here. This is still the fastest double bass by any U.S. american. Look at the title. Drumrival is Russian.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
Wooo, looks like fun
alteye1 1 year ago
yeeh that would surely be usefull for any band
keoal 1 year ago
im sure the head is as hard as a wall to make it easier...the heads not even flexing.
jakehembree 1 year ago
@jakehembree the head is as hard as a wall to ensure accurate counting. If you have a loose head the drumometer will count the reverberations as hits. And this makes it harder because you have no rebound. Like playing with sticks on a book rather than a drum head. It doesnt help you any.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
What pedal is that? Axis what?
killu626 1 year ago
@killu626 Axis A2 Longboards. With some homemade alterations, Gibraltar lightweight beaters.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
It is impressive to go that fast singe strokes but i'm less impressed with the methods. Not saying getting that many notes is easy or that you are cheating man but come on. I've never seen a beater closer to a head in my life and i've seen alot of tappers. I know this is purely for speed but still. Your beater distance makes tim waterson look like george kollias.... WHy even move the beaters off the head. You could just set the trigger hypers sensitive and vibrate your feet to vibrate it
TheGrindcorps 1 year ago
@TheGrindcorps Within your criticism is the very secret of speed. If George Kollias could control his strokes with as small a movement as me, he would be able to play faster than me. But he took the power path and that will always cost him speed. Simply vibrating your feet with sensitive triggers will not work. It does not come out even at all.
snowflakeeel 1 year ago
Because you'd play a song with the beaters that close to the head ? I just dont get the point of it lol, heel toe spamming with a 1 inch spread :/ Thats what'll get you a record i guess heh
MikeHawkZeeDrummer 1 year ago
@MikeHawkZeeDrummer absolutely, and you would too, if you wanted to play this fast
Dreammotive 1 year ago
Those heads sure are....close.
I hate that in these little record races that people decide to start abusing shit for bragging rights.
MikeHawkZeeDrummer 1 year ago
@MikeHawkZeeDrummer nothing abused here. you're just looking for something negative to say
Dreammotive 1 year ago
Do you play any deathmetal / hardcore-influenced music?
And if so, what technique do you use mostly?
And btw nice speed..!
Calraug 1 year ago
Yes, But it's all in my head! I learned double bass specifically so I could play in a metal band but havent found any one in my area who wants to play yet. So I just jam by myself and along with other band tracks sometimes. For high speed rolls i use the technique shown. For low speed rolls <180bpm I use a standard heels up downstroke. For intricate patterns and normal drum beats I use heels down downstrokes. For hands I use mainly the Gladstone and im training up the push-pull.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
@Dreammotive where is your local area cos im a death metal guitarrist looking for like minded in cardiff but everyone only realy seems interested in deathcore or shitty "hardcore" breakdowny rubbish.
thousanddragons 1 year ago
fake,move triggered
stralleloveslipknot 1 year ago
what does move triggered mean?
Dreammotive 1 year ago
even triggered it sounds pretty bad because of the inability to remain consistent
thepactissealed 1 year ago
which makes perfect sense because triggers expose inconsistent rhythm to a greater degree than non-triggered. Also, the point is not sound but score in this sport.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
so what method do you use when you actually play music?
thepactissealed 1 year ago
I use the same technique and with triggers. But I don't play 294 bpm 16th note rolls for a minute straight in a musical situation so consistency is not as much a struggle. For instance, when attempting a high score you have to keep your muscles relaxed in order to last a full minute. If I was playing this speed for only 10 seconds I could push each note a lot harder and insure consistency but my energy fuel would run out much quicker.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
You might check out my video: Contra remix. I play a fairly consistent roll at 250 bpm for a good stretch of time.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
Those are double strokes....
chickensandbeandip 1 year ago
you are incorrect. check your NARD and PAS rudiments.
Dreammotive 1 year ago
seems your not hitting it with much power and letting the triggers do all the work. still an astounding feat though ( haha made a pun)
guitar4evr30 2 years ago
screw the haters. They're just jealous that they can't compete with that. Of course this is nonmusical, just like the record for fastest paradiddles and so forth. keep up the good work!
saintjinn 2 years ago
Thanks man. Yea, you can see all over youtube when someone does something cool there are more negative comments then anything because people are insecure and have to trash talk to feel better about themselves. It's an interesting part of human psychology I think. And right, this is not music by itself but demonstrates a technique which can certainly be applied to music when you get it down.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
I think people are just too jealous!
kazack66 1 year ago
@kazack66 agreed
camacausey7 1 year ago
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jonsenger 2 years ago
I see you get a lot of shit for this. But i say well done. You got any tips for me??
thebeasel 2 years ago
Seriously, put something up on youtube thats not absolutely perfect and you get completely trashed! Ive got a lot of tips for someone who is attempting this technique. 1stly, what technique(s) are you training with to maximize your speed?
Dreammotive 2 years ago
not to mention the fact that it isn't necessary to post videos of this. if you think you can play fast, well great, but the vanity of posting it is really pathetic.
StopListenLearn 2 years ago
shut up and upload something.
saintjinn 2 years ago
this is just dumb. please please tell me what the point of this is. no one cares. seriously. its not musical at all. if this was in a song it would be retarded. a minute and a half of straight double bass at a speed that sounds like a dead car trying to start? if you can give me a legitimate reason for all this "double bass speed hype" please enlighten me. and don't say all this "trying to better myself and technique" bs, because there are incredible dummers who wouldnt even give a shit
StopListenLearn 2 years ago
The point of this video specifically is mainly for competition. It's for the same reason that people post of themselves beating the rubics cube record, or completing Mario Bros 3 in 5 minutes. Its cool to be able to see people accomplishing extreme feats and it is enjoyed by many people. A good side effect is having the foot drumming chops to play anything with your feet which really frees up musical possibilities. There are lots of D-bass lovers out there its just not for you apparently.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
i just don't think its musical in anyway, which seems counter productive since its being done on a musical intrument. it wouldnt make sense to see how fast you can strum a guitar or how quickly you can type in cheats for an xbox game. speed pertains to all of those, but only to a certain degree.
StopListenLearn 2 years ago
Correct, this performance is not a musical one but a physical one, also known as sport. Any event which people consider worthy to compete in is relevant. And maximum speed drumming happens to be one of those. I never claimed to be a great musician because of this. It's sport and that's all. But the benefit is that the chops gained from the training can be used for gorgeous musical situations. I love the sound of extreme double bass.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
@StopListenLearn - Over 2,000 views, plus you yourself watched it. Nn what basis do you claim that nobody cares?
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crazysticksthedrumme 2 years ago
isnt that taping?do you have enough power on untriggered bass?
htaedmetal 2 years ago
I don't know. What is the exact amount of power/ beater distance required to make it not tapping?
Dreammotive 2 years ago
@Dreammotive sorry but < than the distance shown in this video.
omertia 2 years ago
well someone needs to straighten that out. if im not going to tap someone needs to tell me what exactly is tapping.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
this is gay
filitalian 2 years ago
wow! thats insane! i could watch your feet move like that all day long ^^
GTAtomten 2 years ago
Cool, thanks man.
Mattris 2 years ago
So, what kind of pedal settings would one need to make in order for that to work to max potential?,
Mattris 2 years ago
that might take a while to describe. Ill send it to you in a private message.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
wow nice you got faster beats than tim waterson .. ! keep it up
drumcovers15 2 years ago
no he doesn't... Tim Waterson's record is 1407 hits a minute.
FutileExistence 2 years ago
yeah, tim wins the overall race with his double stroke score that no one has come close to beating. I dont know how he does it.
Dreammotive 2 years ago