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  • hope Obama gets re elected but learn to negotiate better for the sake of America.

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  • So why is it that healthcare for armed forces is government run an no one is complaining about that? It's not going to raise your taxes considerably, and it will be worth it when everyone has it.

  • The government is incapable of doing anything correctly,look at social security,they screwed that up,look at the IRS that's quite screwed up, they tax you lots,then misuse your money,medicaid/medicare are boundless in terms of fraud,the gov't is continously in the red in terms of spending,the VA is complete incompetence-I know I'm a veteran.I worked to help many veterans who had problems with geting health care.So please gov't in health is a recipe for disaster.Rationing of health care anyone!

  • basically in america, if your rich you get great healthcare, and if your not you get screwed. so most ppl get screwed.

  • I finally got to see a hematologist, the first thing the doctor said,"We'll treat you, but were not going to find out the reason.Translate that into we going to spend the least amont of dollars on you.Great,I was treated with Prednisone over a two year course,with Danocrine that put me into menupause.I had to initiate the infectious disease people to take a sample of my bld,send it to Walter Reed Hosp, to the head of infectious disease.To be checked for Lesishmanisis.Thankfully it was negative!

  • FUCK YOU PASSIONPROFILES

  • Socialized Health Care would be the worst thing that could happen to this country. We need less government. I am a veteran, and have used government health care, and it is quite evident that the Veterans Administration is not capable of provide even the minimal health care for veterans. NO to any kind of government health care. One word for the government- Incompetent!

  • @122651Lil please check "health care en mexico" .com.you will be sorprisssss.you see it's not about politics but people (children) what you will do with 30.mill + - without H.C. en USA.  ?

  • @122651Lil I'm betting the gov't programs would work better if they weren't suffering miserably from Bush cutting their budget. Socialized health care would work, plain and simple. It's been proven to work in every other developed country in the world. You know what doesn't work? Expecting people to take on the massive healthcare prices by themselves.

  • @samOFblorx Socialized medicine has failed in England and Canada.People have to wait month for test, procedures,and non emergent surigical procedures. Your government will decide what you need and when you need it.Please, no thanks!

  • @122651Lil You're just plain wrong, and all the numbers back up that fact. You're paranoid and deluded. I surely hope you don't think the system we have in place works well, because money comes WAY before people in this system, so nobody's gonna tell me the private sector does it better.

  • @samOFblorx So,wheres your facts.Socialized healthcare is like putting a leash around the wrist of the doctor,you poor soul are at the other end of the leash. But you don't have any control either, because the leash is around your neck. Oh yah, the government gets to hold the leash!.Its bad medicine, the doctors hate it, and so do the patients.As a retired Nurse, it stinks soooooooooooooooooooo bad!

  • @122651Lil Well that's a lovely little metaphor, but it just so happens that socialized medicine is used and works in every other industrialized country in the world. How's that for proof? Also, I happen to know quite a lot about being a nurse, and what stinks is having to turn people away from a long-term care facility because their insurance ran out. Yeah.

  • @samOFblorx I didn't say their aren't problems with our health care, but it is by far the best health care.Many people from your so enarmored socialized medicine, come to this country for care.You may know quite a lot about nursing, but that doesn't make you a nurse.Doctors hate the idea of going in that direction.I'm a diabled veteran, I've ben thru the beauracy of government healthcare.It stinks.So many snafu's,you have to be a veteran utilizing their brand of health care,which is substandard.

  • @122651Lil You sir (or madam) are full of it. Yes, we have the best healthcare, but we have the WORST healthcare system. Anyone can see that. The only people who come here for care are RICH because otherwise they can't access it either. And my mother is a nurse, so yes, I know. Don't you dare paint all doctors as against socialized medicine. That's blatantly dishonest. It seems to me your main problem is with bureaucracy, but you're NUTS if you think there's no bureaucracy in private insuance.

  • @122651Lil only the rich travel to america for healthcare. private insurance in america goes out of its way to screw ppl over, look at silkko, a women told her brain tumor aint covered because its not life threatening etc, dead now. its profiteering, its inhumane.........its american

  • this iz y old men r retarted (59-00)

  • A lot of people don't know that although the UK has higher income tax, they don't have the taxes on their paychecks that we have.

    It probably works out to a similar amount anyway.

  • It's pleasant to see a pro republican opinion other than the whole " Barrack HUSSAIN Obama *nudge nudge* " that seems to of developed with the Tea party movement.

    And yes theyoungturks is an full on pro liberal show.... that takes the micky out of Pro Republican reporting. got to love that Irony.

  • 1942 columbus sailed the ocean blue! In america we have columbus day! He was sponsored by the SPANISH- not the french, not the english- the spanish. Columbus- or Colon (his real name) was most likely italian. Colon has been credited with discovering america and the spanish were the first to colonize it.

  • The English were not the first to colonize america. During Andrew Jackson's presidential administration he took heat for striking Florida- a Spanish colony. The Spanish colonized California, Florida, Texas (Hence States with Spanish names) and many western/ south western states. They were there first. The English started w/ new england. But your right, the spanish also conquered all of south/ central america. But the spanish were the "first" on the continent.

  • I think the French colonized ?

  • so obama is trying to raise taxes for free healthcare? is that right, i live in england and i have to say, that raising taxes for free healthcare for example in the uk, the nhs, it works extremely well, but you only benifit from it if you are poor as the richer you are the higher you are taxed, english foootball players (soccer) get taxed 60% of their wages. But if you are poor it is extremely good you can get free healthcare. But please tell me is that what obamas trying to do?

  • kinda weird, i libe in hawaii and isnt hawaii both usa and england i mean our flag has both america & england...

  • Yeah cuz England originally discovered north America including hawaii, so you had the British flag and then America got its own government and grew apart from England meaning you had the American flag but kept both of them :D

  • lol i said libe hahaha... then shouldnt we be apart of both governments not just one i mean we carry the flag of both, like you cant wear a hooker uniform and a police uniform and only work as a hook(america) hahahaha to me american is used up already beat up and owes every one money...

  • Lol yeah very true, I heard that china are now going to be the super power ! 0_0

  • china was always the power, everything is made in china... lol

  • England did not discover north america- it was the Spanish Crown. England was very weak during that point in history- Spain and Portugal were the seafaring superpowers of that era.

  • But England still colinized america, and spanish did the same to mexico hence the spanish and english spoken in countries right next to eachother

  • yep it was about 2-3 centuries later, after Britain developed the concept of a national bank and a national Debt, that it very rapidly went from a backwater of Europe to THE Trading superpower. Britain then remained the worlds super power for around 2-3 centuries before a slow erosion followed by it dismantling itself - after bankrupting itself with debt to america in WW2

  • Its hilarious that everything in Obamas response ad to McCain was completely true lol McCains entire campaign was based on personal smears anyone can see that. And....fresh ideas will win you the white house not attacks on your opponents character as im sure John McCain and Sarah Palin have now learned

  • @ElleWoodsAttorney You assume Sarah Palin is capable of learning. I think you assume too much.

  • @ElleWoodsAttorney Lol! I'm pretty sure Sarah Palin is incapable of learning anything.

  • Yeah his co host failed by saying the part he loved is how there were no other black people in the ad

  • @Jobbory99 If those people existed they would give info to the us to stop terrorist attacks

  • Wait a minute. I'm confused. jlockuptj , what r u sayin? do u like McCain or Obama?

  • And another thing, Yes I may sound like a NeoNazia or what the hell, But Im not, I love this GREAT NATION OF OURS For my family blood line been here before the war with the King's and Queen's of the old world. I like ALL points of views but u cross the line when u spit on our vet who gave to this nation that u spit on like Obama for u all know no honer! People like u came in after the HARD work has been done and kick the worker out. If u all like more Gov in ur life and more taxmove to the USSR

  • Here's a question, In the war, did McCain ever kill anyone?

  • Im an ass thank for that email u sent, Your name says it!!!young Turk? They dont have an honer code system ASS HOLE FU and your blood line and move BACK to Turkishtan or what every the hell u call it, ..Also I like how brave u are in words on cameria or email..Come to Running Springs CA and say that crap in a town of 60% Pro Combat American VETS "PRO AMERICAN & McCAIN" We gave and he and other gave gave even more and some never came home!!What have U done or Obama for the USA 0%

  • Turkey. It's called Turkey.

  • Turkish, Turky or turkish stand all I know what they did to the armeaning was uncalled for, they sunk boats that had cilivan on it, They would line up the kids and shoot them for FUN of it and not counting the mass rape and murder of of young women, What I am glad to hear is that Turky may be kick OUT of NATO and for PATRICKKmcnicholl Im for vets McCain

  • Yes he has as a combat pilot, in nam but at no disrespect to him or other, The grunt had it the worse, and even as for today they have to LOOK into the eye's of there enemy day after day. And with me being a vet and from a long line of vets, Tk god I never had to find out what it looks and feels like to kill a kid that had a AK47 pointed at me. For I have seen big bad ass SOB fall to there knee's for they see a kid that looks like a kid they had no choice but to kill in war

  • Like most american we live by a code of honer, But with this new age of so called humen you don't live by a code of honer, Your code is who can I fuck over to get ahead. That why when the america split again you all will be no more thank god for you have no honer

  • Obama while in pol in his home state has never gotting anything done, and while on capital hill he showed up late to most of the meeting. So now he claim that he can do the job. Macain on the other hand is an American Hero like all veteran's who put there life on the line for America, Macain know how to get shit done not obama...Macain has also crossed parity line to get shit done but Obama wont. Any thing that America stand for Obama it against....So U voted for Obama...ASS HOLE

  • You know his name is McCain right? That was only one of the many mistakes you made. I hope this is because you don't speak english primarily.

  • So you voted for higher taxes more goverment control,,,,Why did u do that will if that the case why dont you donate half your payroll check us people that did not want higher taxes and more goverment control

  • most idiotic statement ever

  • American Politics = A Pathetic Circus Show

  • I'm American, and that's why I agree with you. Political discourse is a joke in this country. -_-

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  • Obama = WIN

  • winning the election does not validate him failing as a president, and look at the numbers, he is FAILING!

  • Limbaugh told you that right? Parrot

  • WHO WANT HIGHER TAXES AND MORE GOVERMENT IN THERE LIFE? IF I REMBER MY HISTORY THAT WHAT STARTED THE CIVIAL WAR AMERICA THE 1st TIME AROUND..WHO READY FOR ROUND 2 For this time the North is going down this time! Yea that right TURK for the clean air act and now u all can breath better and have bettert health the N shut them down and the company went to the south. This time the south can make the weapons not the north :( The American will take this nations bk from liberal like ur self

  • y did you send that to me and accuse me of being a liberal? i think you are misinterpreting things so you can rant lol

  • i think some one forgot to take his pills im from a long line of vets to iv lost family thay died to give us the choice .and im sorry but times have changed and its obama,.

  • I'm 150% for change but not Obama change. I dont belive in the so called free thinking of the acorn leader and founders, I dont belive in raising taxes on a health care sytem that will not work. I dont belive in taxing the rich even more, For they produce jobs not the poor, Im not into union for it mainly has LAZY people working it Look Obama has alot of great ideal IF YOU WANT MORE GOVERMENT CONTROL THEN MOVE TO CANADA or CUBA for they all that free thinker want and LEAVE AMERICA ALONE :)

  • Socialized healthcare it proven to work, I live in the UK, and the service provided by the NHS is good. Why are you so negative and close-minded about it? Its just like paying insurance on your car.

  • If u think it great for you then GREAT! How much is ur tax? Also one of your house leader has said that it not working and the system is running out of money with mean more taxes, Canada has no choice but to let private insurance back in for people are not getting the best care and are becoming worse off and they also are running out of money, Why should one who make more money pay more taxes, I belive in a fare tax across the board 10% Gov run system dont work,

  • jlockuptj: If you're talking about that Hannan guy who was on Fox News, he IS NOT a house leader. He is just one politician. After he gave that interview, his own political party came out and said that they disagree with him and they fully support the NHS. The US already pays the same amount of money PER PERSON on healthcare as the UK does. It's the over inflated cost of healthcare in the US that's the problem.

  • Yea I could be wrong about that, But as far as cost, Dr and Hospital and even drug company have to charge more for no matter what they do they have to pay higher in insurance cost and lawerys fee is added in to the cost, Let fix that problem 1st for no more out rages law suites or miner problem

  • @jlockuptj goverment system works better because people trust the goverment to do the right thing so they dont sue. Single payer does solve the problem. Inflated costs are because insurence companies dont haggle over cost and dont stop unessesary test. Goverment would have the power to decide whats done, so hospitals cant make money on unessesary procedures.

  • @jlockuptj did you know america spends more on health care than most of europe. US could cover everyone and pay less! progressive tax rates are the simplest part of the tax code that decreases inequality. Depending on health care costs working poor may already be worse off then welfare recients, whos checkes barely cover rent. If US taxed the poor at say 30% the economy would collapes. US needs job creators and workers.

  • Here in the US, the health insurance industry is spending a lot of money to defeat and proposed changes. Changes aren't in their interest. Profit.

    Some Americans take the side of the industrial interests.  Often without realizing it's not to their advantage.

    This same group wants lower taxes. They think they aren't paying for others, when they actually do in the emergency room, the health care of the last resort.

  • @owensamrob The NHS is awful...

  • @TheJamjam9999 Im half american half english and ive been treated in america and in england. Believe me the NHS is a long shot better then their system. This is despite all the problems with the NHS.

  • @owensamrob You are thinking theoretical, but not practical in the real world sense.I have experienced socialized medicine thru Veterans Administration as disabled veteran.My example is my own situation.Being a nurse, I know better but here's what I started with when I entered the VA system.I am a Gulf War Veteran, I had called VA Washington D.C. hotline for Gulf War Veterans about receiving care.I was assured that I would be.My first day approaching the VA, I told them my situation.Con't

  • @owensamrobSo I'm their,told them spoken to a person at VA in Wash D.C.who said,I could receive care at the VA hosp.But when I spoke to administrative personnel, they told me"I could not get seen unless I was dying".When I persisted, they finally had me go into an exam room.But the doctor said the exact same thing,"You can't get seen unless your dying".I told her that I spoken to this person from Wash.D.C.Then left,came back 5min.later,"we'll order some bld wk&get you to see a hematologist".Cont

  • @owensamrob I had to initiate my own test for a Mycoplasma, that could infect platelets similar to my situation.The doctor made no agressive moves that involved any diagnostic testing.I had to write to congress about this situation, sent out 24 letters to everyone about what had occurred.Within two months of my letter.I was told a congressional inquire would be done on my case, suddenly everything was moving.I was sent to Houston VA for further evaluation of my status their for two wks.Con't

  • @owensamrobWhile their a did see Dr.Claudia Miller(consultant to VA) she did the best complete assessment of my history.None at the VA approached her depth.I also had a thyroid problem, but the local VA refused to do scan on my thyroid,they refused a to biospy my thyroid.Finally with going to Houston the local VA decided to do thyroid scan.In the local VA I had so many different endocrine doctors,rarely ever the same.Often they didn't have my chart available,& had to con't repeat my history.Cont

  • @owensamrobFinally I had to go outside to an Endocrine doctor, he agreed that my thyroid needed a biopsy.Thankfully it was neg.for cancer.I went back to the VA endocrine doctors,and didn't see the outside doctor for a year.The outside doctor measured around my neck and noted that it had inc. further in size in one year.The VA doctor rarely checked the size of my neck.The doctor recommended surgery.The VA doctors didn't recommend surgery.I went with the outside doctor. I had my thyroid removed.

  • @122651Lil Ok I see, you are a gay person who has a husband?? Any STD's yet I hope?

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    lololol

  • @owensamrobIf I miss my appt to see my Endocrine doc.,because I'm sick or something.It will take 6 or more months to get to see my endocrine doctor.I was getting accunpuncture for chronic back pain.They cut out that program, after I was in it for four years.If your sick, you can't go to your general doctor,you have to go to the emergency room, to see a doctor who really doesn't know your history.Dental care,can take months to years to get anything complted, except when they out source the care.

  • @owensamrob So, don't tell me I don't know socialized medicine. I know socialized medicine very well, I've been in the VA system since1992, almost 20 years of VA Care. The VA is a massive dysfuntional organization. Oh, did I tell you my husband works for the VA, over 25 yrs.He agrees it is quite dysfunctional.You want your goverment to control health care.Like I said sounds nice theorectical, but not in the real world.

  • @122651Lil look at france, awesome goverment provided healthcare, also the army health cover in the us is goverment run and thats some of the best healthcare you could possibly get, the idea that national healthcare is good or bad based on whether its goverment run or not is stupid. its like saying a car is good if its painted black but not if its painted red, its unrelated to the quality.

  • @owensamrob its all about taxes. we pay 8 percent taxes here in texas... if you pass socialized healthcare our taxes won't increase just one or two percent.... they willl SOAR!

  • @591471 8 per cent? What tax are you speaking of? I pay about 23% income tax. Please show me your numbers? Please reveal the source of these numbers? Thank you. Then please let me know why you think your income tax will increase when "socialized" health care is implemented. Please let me know what source you are getting this idea from. Thank you.

  • they are racists

  • GM workers earn about $80/hour including benefits. Obviously, the UAW destroyed GM. No company can thrive in such conditions.

    The US government lets tens of thousands of companies go bankrupt every year, including promising high tech companies, which might have become future Googles or Apples. And they want to save GM? So we pay people to make cars when there are no customers? It's insane.

    The Democrats only pretend to care about balancing the budget.

  • Okay, are you right or left? never mind. i don't care. Where did you get the idea that i thought you were racist? Not everything comes from parental consent, otherwise the world would be perfect and there would be no purpose for life, news, anything. everything would be exactly as important as the next and everthing would be repetitious. Why? experience. Parents want to give their children a brighter future than the have, no matter what group society pools them in. If everyone were that wise...

  • and i didnt call you racist, i called the person who said obama will be the death of america.

  • At least someone listens to Steve Forbes. Unions need to die, selfish pricks.

  • It's corporations that are the selfish pricks.

  • that ass was probably one of the worst put out by Obama...

  • ass or ads?

  • seriously, cuz he won the election....?

  • THAT ADD SUCKS

  • MCCAINS THE MAN

  • MCCain is obamas bitch dont even try bitch we outnumber u retards by alot

  • What is wrong with you?

  • apparently not

  • your fiance is one lucky gal

  • We will work with Obama and we are working hard for America! We want a free and beautiful America with all kind of cultures and their talents to continue giving to our country the best of ourselves, we are building the future of our nation! Vote for the winner! Vote for Obama!

  • wasting too much time going back and forth.JUST VOTE!!!!!!!!

  • haha my friend, I really can't take a person seriously when they've named themselves after "Warcraft". And future reference, you should go ahead and read up on this shit before you try to make a point. If you actually read the 100+ bills, and who voted yes on them, You'll feel like a real jackass. Go look it up. And as I said to the guy who call me a "dumb little shit", if you want to talk to big boys, you should have something worth hearing to say.

  • And also, I see you have obama/biden stuff all over your profile. Name 1 thing Obama has done for Illinois. Name 1 plan he has for any "Changes" he intends on making. Name 1 positive he brought to his state. If you can name 1 of each of those things without using generalizations, then I'll have a shred of respect for you- I follow politics, and I have yet to hear 1 plan this dick has for anything. I'll bet you anything you can't name 1 specific thing he's done or will do.

  • Name one thing McCain has done for anybody besides himself?

  • You're an ass. I don't usually resort to name calling, but you need to look up the fact that McCain brought Arizona's economic and tourism back to life. There is a reason why McCain was the rep for Arizona for 21 years assclown. Go look up the bills the McCain was responsible for- Wikipedia is pretty liberal, but they have listed bills that he voted on, and bills he created- So clean your vagina up, and check it out- McCain has voted and/or created over 500 bills. Ass. I hope Obama fucks you.

  • I Love it...

  • Trendy--you are one dumb little shit aren't you? McSame hasn't got a chance and Obama is the MAN.

  • First of all, it shows a real lack of intelligence when your only defense is to call me a "Dumb little shit" and then proceed to prove nothing about Obama except that the people voting for him know nothing about what he intends on doing for America. You say Obama is the man is not an argument. You are clearly an uneducated social sheep who doesn't read up on the candidates. I bet you only like Obama because he isn't republican right? I bet you never bothered to check out what he has accomplished

  • i think mccain doesnt know what he's doing all the time.. thats the scary TRUTH.

  • I love that you uneducated dickheads gave me negative ratings, but no one has the balls to face me with a challenge when it comes to political intellect- So why don't you douchebags stop placing negative ratings on me, and go ahead and battle me with political debates.. oh that's right.. Obama supporters apparently have nothing to say other than "Change" "He's black and young" or he's "a democrat".. Present me with something worth talking about sheeple.

  • He has the same beliefs as me. He is a pro-peace candidate rather than someone who believes that we need to involve ourselves in world affairs. Obama supports a New Deal for the 21rst century. The new deal being a green economy which economists from all over say would work. That's why I like him

  • he has an IQ of 124, grew up from two different hard-working families and somehow made his way from the very bottom to the top, and made history that many of us, republican or democrat, thought would never happen. Mccain is using the system that many idiots(Bush) before him had used. Note: he's not an idiot, bush is. Mccain said in the second debate, "You do the math. 95% of Americans will recieve taxbreaks with my system..." That's his tactics: Feed the fish on the top and hope it trickles down

  • If there are no bosses, there are no employees.

  • i dont think its possible to be any worse than bush, and america is still alive

  • And Mccain will die in his own right and then

    Palin will be the death of america.

  • Unfortunately, even if you do that, you will find that inequalities persist because of differences in the home environment, parents, culture, values, and native ability.

    Americans are rugged individualists. They don't want to be taught values by their government the way the Singaporean government has civilised its people though education. It is thanks to the Singaporean government that you visit and find a clean, civilised environment, while people spit everywhere in Beijing, spreading germs.

  • The main problem in the USA with equality of opportunity concerns education and inheritance. To create equality of education, I think there are two, completely different choices: (1) The US federal government takes over education and makes sure that every school is exactly the same in terms of funding, teacher quality, facilities, etc. (2) Public schools are abolished, and the US federal government makes sure every child has the same dollar amount to spend on private education using vouchers.

  • Gov'ts have a value in a baseline level of education for their citizens. Makes them more marketable to the capitalists who need them to run their organizations. All schools shouldn't be the same, but there should be a standard. Schools of distinction will define themselves through price as they should. Take a look at the infrastructure of the Baltimore schools you mentioned (where kids don't have pencils and paper) and compare resources schools in the surrounding suburbs.

  • its not about the american peopel its about the president

  • People are poor because they are lacking in native intelligence and/or they made bad choices (e.g., crime, drugs, dropping out) and/or they did not work hard enough. Throwing money at them will just add to their complacency. The opportunities are already there.

  • Your argument doesn't hold. Poor where? Darfur? Bangladesh? These people aren't inherently inferior, they have no access to opportunity. Please don't write off your fellows so quickly. If you mean, Western (UK/US) poor, society has choices. You can provide access to a way out (educational financing and institutional access). Or, you can hire more police and build more prisons to punish them for not having access to opportunities that society faied to provide.

  • "These people aren't inherently inferior."

    I am not sure what you mean by "inferior." The term seems rather dated. I believe every person has human dignity and is equal because a human life is a human life.

    However, if you mean people in Darfur or Bangladesh have genetic material that, when realised under ideal conditions, would result in intelligence equal to East Asians under the same conditions, that has not been determined scientifically. Such an experiment would be ethically problematic.

  • You said: "people are poor because they are lacking in native intelligence and/or they made bad choices (e.g., crime, drugs, dropping out) and/or they did not work hard enough." So, the poor got that way because they are lazy (inferior), stupid (inferior), or criminals/addicts. The poor will always be with us, I agree. But society can elevate (providing quality education) or punish (through incarceration); the mix of how much determines the society.

  • "If you mean, Western (UK/US) poor, society has choices. You can provide access to a way out (educational financing and institutional access)."

    You seem to think that "society" can fix problems that originate in culture, values, and families. Most children in inner-city Baltimore drop out of high school. But if you consider immigrant West Indian (black) families in Baltimore, few of their children drop out. Why? They have different values from the black underclass.

  • Ok. Clearly the 'society' is what makes the difference, since the immigrants leave their own 'society' to come to a 'society' that offers them more opportunity. Agreed = people need to apply themselves; I submit to you that hard work as a value transcends culture. Also: all non-immigrant blacks aren't in the underclass, that's a prejudgment and a false one at that.

  • Oh okay, would you like to have a nearby gang point a gun in your face forcing you to drop out of high school and try to say no. You're being way too skeptical. In fact, most blacks have parents that stress highly on going to college and getting a good education. Do you even have any black friends? any primary sources? anything? stop being such an idiot, you're just a racist asshole.

  • What you wrote is rather romantic. I don't see why you think I am racist. Why are there gangs? It's a lack of parental control. Asian values stipulate parents are responsible for their brood. This is different from crack whore values.

    No amount of government spending can fix the difference in values, except to make a kibbutz without parents and let Asians teach other people's children.

  • (contiuation)...if everyone were that wise we wouldnt have problems. I cant beleive the kind of skepticism you're using about Asian values. They are simply more experienced because they have existed about 2000 years more. that doesn't mean they're always right and we need to force the world to become asian. what a stupid idea. Are you a professor? if so or if not here's a message: In my teens, one of my asian friends asked: "why do black people think theyre always right?" Why do asians do it too

  • Oh, and please, don't think you're better than anyone in the world because you have morals and admire asian values. Don't even bother thinking that because you never know. We all live in one world that we can all use. Just because you are so tighly bonded to your statements does not make you right(although it satisfy your mind. Hoiw do you know that the series of events that Obama will execute in the white house will be able to relieve America from this crisis? You never know.

  • "Or, you can hire more police and build more prisons to punish them for not having access to opportunities that society faied to provide."

    Well, then you might as well take these children away from their parents and raise them on a kibbutz in some rural area where you can control all the information they are fed. Take them somewhere they will never hear rap lyrics glorifying becoming a drug dealer or pimp. Canadian blacks don't have the same problems. They don't have ghetto culture.

  • Reagan and Thatcher used to talk about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. They were great leaders, because they encouraged people to help themselves rather than to look for handouts.

    Obama represents a false and unworkable system whereby the have-nots are encouraged to get ahead--not by studying hard and working hard--but by electing Robin Hood-type characters. All these Obamahoods require is votes. "You vote for me, and I'll rob him and give the 'wealth' to you."

  • Wealth is not a THING that you spread like peanut butter. You cannot spread a job-creating company without destroying the company. You don't spread wealth by plugging unsuccessful parasites into the veins of successful organisms. Companies need the wealth they produce to reinvest in innovation, not to bail out those who made bad choices.

  • Most successful countries were either former colonies of the UK or Japan. Former colonies of the UK include Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Canada, the USA, Singapore, Hong Kong, the Bahamas, etc. Former colonies of Japan include Taiwan and Korea. You judge a tree by its fruit, and the fruit of the UK came from a Scotsman named Adam Smith, not Lenin-Stalin-Mao-Castro-Khmer Rouge-Kim Jung-Il-Obama-Etc.

  • I don't need to take care of other people's parents. I only need to take care of my own parents.

    If my parents and I were careful to save and invest, why should I take care of the parents of children who didn't do that?

    When people make good decisions, they should be rewarded, not when they make bad decisions. I don't want to take care of people who lived beyond their means and did not plan for the future. I am not sacrificing for them. I am sacrificing for my family.

  • You don't need to build roads for other people, you can build your own roads. Sorry, but there is such a thing as the commonweal and you do have to pay into it.

  • If income tax is eliminated, there's a thing called the Fair Tax, where it's a national sales tax. I think this would also eliminate payroll taxes, which are used to pay into Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. All three of those programs are going broke b/c of the out of control spending of the US Government.

  • Flat tax isn't workable b/c it's disproportionate, you need a progressive system.

  • Why is a flat tax disproportionate? If Joe earns $100K and Rick earns $50K, at 15% Joe pays $15K and Rick pays $7.5K. But does Joe really consume double the services? Probably Rick consumes more, because Joe pays for private security and sends his children to private schools.

    If I buy an apple, do I have to pay double because I earn double? People should pay for the services they need. I don't drive a car, so my taxes shouldn't go to the roads. Let that be folded into the tax on petrol.

  • Your argument only holds if government only provides $22.5K worth of services in the example, which isn't realistic. Again, there are commonweal services that the gov't provides. And Joe still consumes. Agreed = if you buy an apple, it's price shouldn't depend on what you make. But, please:  If you don't drive a car, how do you get places? Autobus? A tram? Aren't these conveyed on public infrastructure? Mustn't a driver, track maintenance, security exist for these things?

  • What the US government needs to do is what any responsible person need to do: (1) Balance the budget; (2) Take care of just the the basics first. ("It's the economy, stupid!")

    The US definitely needs to reduce or eliminate the income tax structure altogether.

  • The government has been subsumed by corrupt autocrats who are now so rich that their 1% controls 95% of the nation's wealth. You can't afford to join that club; who can play poker at a table without chips? You have to ease entree for Americans into the middle class and broaden said class. That 'churn' is what gets new and dynamic ideas going and is the heart of the American engine. Create wealth clots as we have been and you have a stroke.

  • Those are bogus figures. The top 1% controls 40% of the capital. Two-thirds of the billionaires on the Forbes 400 are self-made. That's the American dream at work. And you think it's a bad thing?

    Handouts do not make poor people middle class. It only squanders resources that need to be reinvested in making the USA more productive relative to its strategic competitors.

  • You mean: the top 1% control 40% of the income. The figures are as stated. The American Dream is the prototype for the world, IMHO. But it gets that way because people have an opportunity to get there. This isn't about handouts, but access to opportunity and clearing the path to the ladder. We agree: you can't make people climb. Can you define self-made?

  • Obama also wants to double capital gains tax from 14% to 28%. Doesn't he realise that business visionaries have a choice of where to live? Soros moved from New York to Singapore to be near the action.

  • If you want to play in the American marketplace, the American government should use it's leverage for its own benefit too. The analogy here is sports teams, who can whore cities out for their franchises and exact incredble one-sided concessions. Be nice if the cities had some leverage too. Just take the analogy to multinational corporations and you'll see the parallel.

  • "You can't afford to join that club"

    Sure. That's why two-thirds of billionaires in the USA are self-made. Was Jobs rich before he started Apple? Were Larry Page and Sergey Brin rich before they founded Google? Was Mark Zuckerberg rich before founding Facebook? Of course not!

    Quit pretending that we are living in the Middle Ages where only blue bloods get to play the game.

    Why is there life on this planet? Generate and test. What works is rewarded. But socialism rewards failure.

  • Actually, they were rich. They just became moreso. All had secondary education, two attended Stanford and one Harvard. Not blaming them at all for their success, but again, they had access and opportunity. Also: looks like you're right about socialism rewarding failure. All of these US/UK banks are now ardent socialists and certainly are being rewarded (and we're paying, BTW). Looks like we got the imvisible finger instead of the invisible hand...

  • I don't know what you mean by "rich." When you start a company, you can use other people's money. I started three venture companies with colleagues without using a penny of my own money.

    My godson who went to an Ivy league university went there with virtually no money from his parents--they were hospitalised for part of that time. If your parents cannot afford to pay for an Ivy league education, you can still go. They offer great financial aid. He got about $200K over four years.

  • Congratulations on your opportunity and that of your godson in seizing same. Who finances financial aid for those students who cannot afford to go, or offers grants for indigent students? Is this not part of public support? And where'd you learn OPM techniques? where would others learn them (educational infrastructure, e.g.)?

  • You seem to think that I am in favour of the bail-out. To prevent banks from taking high risks in the future, bankers need to know that we cannot have a system in which losses are nationalised and gains are privatised. The problem is that some of these banks and insurance companies are so big, the US government fears a collapse of the entire financial system. So they let the smaller ones fail, like Barings and Lehman, and save the larger ones. It's an imperfect solution.

  • Whether US taxpayers are paying for the bail-out depends on how the bail-out is handled. If the US taxpayers get equity positions in the banks and insurance companies they bail-out and those banks and insurance companies can recover, the US taxpayers could actually make money on this. Soros made money in Korea after the IMF bail-out along the same principles. But if the bad debt is simply shifted to the taxpayers without the banks' accountability, that's extremely bad.

  • Obama wants to raise corporate taxes, but if you consider the EU, the country with the lowest corporate tax, Ireland, has the highest growth rate and lowest unemployment. 11% in Ireland. 25% in the USA. And we need to raise taxes?

  • Lol ... love that strike back move!

  • This is funny to hear about such things as marxist propaganda in usa.. that's crazy 2 see, some of u'd rather be ass fucked till the ends of time by corporate america than to hear about social government participation whatsoever.. and that's supposed to be a christian country.. haven't u heard of the community, solidarity, etc.. of the city upon a hill speech? wow, I guess that went out of fashion when some rich guys became billionaires and decided not to spare any of it for the time being huh?

  • Sad but true.. What's even worse is that this kind of American "pure" capitalism is getting more and more support here in Europe. In a way I'm glad the financial crisis hit when it did. We needed a wake-up call urgently ;)

  • Then we hear people that are proud that a half wit half white man is willing to tear down the character of a man of honor with liberal talking point lie after lie just to be in power..it is sick to watch our country die at the hands of a person that is a representative of the worse part of what this country has to offer. Look at the track record of non-white leaders in governments..here and abroad and you will see the squalor that those subjected to them end up end. Garbage in ..garbage out..

  • The losing of homes they talk about is because the bunch of minorities that got loans on homes they were not really qualified to buy from Fannie and Fredie defaulted. The bottom line is most of the people that lost their homes should never have had a home sold to them and financed to begin with.

  • "muzzatube"

    that was funny lmao and true.... mccain really didnt raise a lot of money so i think his campaign budget only allows him to pay one african-american per rally

  • Our nation is in danger of being led into an abyss of such dementia by Sheeple Democrats who may actually believe that Barack Hussein Obama will be a great leader. BO is a sham, a Zelig, a chameleon who adjusts his language (multisyllabic when among intellectuals - dropping the "g" in words ending in -ing when among what he perceives to be "workin' men" - Citizens WAKE UP before it is too late. Something is terribly wrong with this man...and with the MARXIST media propaganda machine.

  • McCain does the same thing:

    (multisyllabic when among intellectuals - dropping the "g" in words ending in -ing when among what he perceives to be "workin' men"

    "Something is terribly wrong with this man (obama) "...What is it!?

  • @mMensawarrior: Google Factcheck

    (GOTO IT BEFORE MAKING UNTRUE,NEGATIVE,EXAGGERATED COMMENTS ABOUT OBAMA)

    All these post saying negative comments about Obama "Terrorist,Muslim,Socialist" those are very dangerous and inciteful comments. All this schoolyard name calling does nothing but show peoples fear of change. Our society as a whole is too intelligent to sink back to pre-civil rights type racism.

    STOP REGURGITATING THE FALSE RHETORIC THAT YOU HEAR ON "SLY FOX NEWS"

  • And there we have it; proof that being a member of Mensa doesn't mean you're actually smart or even non-delusional ^^

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  • I,m black and The host to the rights comment about why he liked the commercial kinda comes off as a closet racist, Obama doesn't need to appeal to black people in a sense, at this point in the race, that's why they aren't in the commercial not because he`s black and doesnt need it but because he is going after white independents. Now whats Mccain`s excuse for not having African Americans in his commercials?

  • my god these guys are nerds -- like most republicans

  • oh my god you guys are annoying.

  • vote ThatOne08

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