They found rust and Al, not thermite. When tested the energy from their dust did not match thermite. Jet fuel has over 10 times the heat energy of thermite - like brining a knife to a gun fight. Office fires have more heat energy than thermite.
Good find; a video of a paranoid conspiracy theorist spreading delusional nonsense.
@turbodude555 Rust is in thermite, and iron is in rust. Check out the paper, it is fake, the energy in the paper from what they found does not match thermite, and has ten time less energy than jet fuel, and plastic. Even paper has more energy.
I'm telling you it's IronBru! AlQaeda planted IronBru bottles all over the WTC's and remote detonated them by shaking up a can of Dr Pepper and opening the ring pull (don't try that at home kids). Didn't you get my paper? Seriously, your none-science is an insult to genuine research. The found the damn thermate/thermite chips that hadn't ignited. A microscopic slice of it had incredible explosive properties. Or we are led to believe many scientists and reviewers are ALL wrong...
@turbodude555 That is funny. Jones and Harrit had to pay to publish their paper, serious journals would not publish the fraud. A fringe few scientist prefer to make up nonsense due to political bias. Jones thinks the United State caused the earthquake in Haiti, and he made up the lie of thermite 4 years after 911 because he hates war. 19 terrorists did 911, no thermite was used. When you look at the chemical signature it look like they found clay. Did you do research to check the paper?
There is no "nano explosives".. Conspiracy-theorists are a shame to humankind. Mainly because they are uneducated and ignorant, and believe what fellow theorists tell them over scientists who bring forth a different truth than what the theorists would like to hear..
Sure, eeeeeverybody who provides the science that contradicts the OCT are all of a sudden "uneducated" - just like Stephen E Jones, Niels Harrit, Richard Gage etc..
It doesn't matter wether they're firefighters, chemists, physisists, architects, engineers, or even demolition experts - they lose aaall their credemtials the moment they support other conspiracy theories than that of "Osama & Tha 19 Li'l Hijackers."
@Thetan1974 How can they provide "science that contradicts it" when they can't even find the raw-data supporting it? I mean.. just because you are e.g an engineer, you still need backup on your accusations.
You can't provide what is being covered up. You can only use the brain yuo were born with and your logical sense - not at least as an expert.
"you still need backup on your accusations." You can tell that to the writers of the NIST report and the 9/11 Commission Report; they were ordered NOT to look intp the facts to back up their assertions.
But you just feel free to believe that "I'm with the criminals who covered it up!" is a way of "debunking."
@Thetan1974 Yes you can. If it happened, you'd be able to find evidences etc. And to believe in your logic is great, but it can also make you buy into shit like this. :)
When/where did someone tell them that?
Same to you, I'd bet you feel you are a proclaimer of truth even though there is so little evidences. It's like arguing with religious morons, because they rely more on the "human logic" which can be twisted and warped into believing anything, rather than mere facts..
To buy into shit like believing that Osama & The 19 Lil Hijackers were behind 9/11 is not even logical. That displays the foul programming of man done by the elite.
Yep - there is little evidence - such as the above found from the bravest of the bravest fighting to get to the bottom of what is being covered up.
""human logic" which can be twisted and warped into believing anything, rather than mere facts.."!
@Thetan1974 Why isn't that logical? How about other hijackers? Can't we believe that was the case then either? :)
Btw, there isn't any "nano explosives", just a name to make it more scary. Even TNT is "nano-explosives" if you make it small enough. Thermite is a compund of its own, nothing that the "nano-explosives" explains. A meaningless fucking term.
@CarD51Short Thermite is just a common compound made of aluminium and rust technically. No spooky "nano explosive", thermite isn't even an explosive! You're the totally fucked up part of the conspiracy-theorists, blind faith in what fellow theorists say. Relieves you of the part where you have to think :) But of course, anything i say now is going to be "Gouvernment propaganda" or w/e, but that's fine.. we on the other side of your little bubble will just sit there and laugh :) at you
Scientific Facts,,are Not Conspiracy Theories. You Morons Who Don't Know by Now that 911 was an Inside Job,,You are Either One of Them Who want the NWO,,or You are Just a Dumb Ass. Pure and Simple,,the Evidence is Overwhelming by Any Means in Many Different Areas,,and It's Far Bigger and Farther Back then 911,,You Stupid Fucks are the Slap in the Face of the Victims and their Families. Backing Up Lies. Sheeple.
Umm there's no fact in a scientist claiming that, through the peer review process, he and four other scientists around the world all found thermate in the rubble using their advance expertise?
WAIT...BUT SOME GUY ON YOUTUBE NAMED SPAMVIGILANTE SAYS THEY ARE ALL LYING TO TRICK US! SPAMVIGILANTE IS A CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! HE THINKS SCIENTISTS ARE LYING FOR SOME REASON...HE GIVES NO EVIDENCE BUT HE KNOWS IT!!!
WHO DO YOU BELIEVE? SOME STUPID SCIENTISTS OR A GUY ON YOUTUBE?!?!
@atta1798 No, I never graduated Bigot. Is that the school you went to? It explains a lot.
Are you capable of independent thought? Why do you just copy others and their idiocy? Why do you not display the ability to think? Must be that great RED STATE EDJUMACATION you got from the school marm.
In answer to the "Who was in charge of the security at WTC and HOW could theramite get into the buildings?" The head of security was Marvin P. BUSH, yes little brother to then President GW Bush. Yep sheep, the BULLSHIT is getting very, very thick and piling almost as high as the WTC stood.
Oh, and John ONeill died at his post, on 911. Read again: The ACTUAL head of security died in his building on 911.
Also, there is ZERO real evidence showing ANY relation between Marvin Bush and the presidential Bush family...at best, they are distant relatives with no verifiable connection.
Quit getting your info from a salesmen whose job it is to lie to you. Maybe some facts would be better to go on? maybe?
Wiki: Marvin Pierce Bush (born October 22, 1956) is the youngest son of George H. W. Bush and Barbara Pierce, and brother of George W., John (Jeb), Neil and Dorothy. Hmmmm at best your a drooling fucktard who speaks out their ass and shits out their mouth, at worst you havn't killed yourself yet, but you should. Thank you for taking the time out of your worthless life to out yourself as one of youtubes most useless users. There is some facts to fit up your ass next to your dads cock. Enjoy :)
Securacom got the $8.3 million World Trade Center security contract in October 1996 and received about $9.2 million from the WTC job from 1996 (a quarter of its revenues that year) to 1998. But in 1998, the company was "excused from the project" because it could not fulfill the work, according to former manager Al Weinstein, and the electronic security work at the WTC was taken over by EJ Electric, a larger contractor.
Again: Securacom was NEVER in charge of WTC security..the Port Authority, the NYPD and several firms associated with Tenant companies...NEVER Securacom...so Marv's connection to the Bush family is weak evidence on it's own, no?
Securacom was a contractor only for WTC, working on security projects (publicly known) that ended in 1998.
The actual man in charge of coordinating the ACTUAL WTC security died at his post on 911...and you nuts take that away from him by claiming Marv was in charge.
You are correct about Marv being their son....and I nvr meant to question that, I was going for the claim of the Walkers involved with Securacom being close to the Prez...but I apparently tripped over my data on that one and so yay, you got to correct me....
So, good call, it still just doesnt matter since the real lie here I'm debunking is that Marv Bush was in charge of security.
That IS a verifiable LIE by Griffin, handed down to everyone who repeats it without checking...like you maybe?
back pedal, back pedal, opps your fell on your ass, or your head,its hard to tell with you. Your LACK and IMAGINATIVE idea of facts is really not worth the effort, you have already outted yourself as a bumbling tard. Marvin Bush BROTHER of GW Bush, and HEAD of security leading up to the 9-11 attacks. Whatever shit that leaks out your brain and on to the kep board is pointless and counter-productive since your digging your asstard hole ever deep with each stroke of a key. MY FACTS are verified.
I corrected my own mistake...as is the proper thing to do, dude.
Anyway, the rest is all correct, Marvin Bush was not in charge of Security man...try looking it up in places where what actually happened is told...not just assumptions about Marv, serving in a BOARD position over a company that operated as a contractor.
Try looking it up....instead of just denying reality here dude. Who cares about my mistake, what matters is what IS true. Marv was head of NOTHING relating to WTC...EVER.
You responded to someone criticizing a man for not being a scientist with a jab towards the 9/11 commission report. If you didn't think it was written by scientists, then your response doesn't make sense.
You are trying to equate a critique of his presentation with support for the 911CR...WHY? Afraid to stay on point?
No equating needed. He didn't present the materials..which have been examined by 100s if not 1000s of people, to be nearly unanimously ID'd as just Iron and paint. Instead he chooses to make his argument purely from a anecdotal point of view. Anyone finding validation for any agenda in this would just be reaching.
But you CT types don't have much taste for science I've noticed.
OMG! How can anyone call this man a scientist? He just makes the same claims over and over. No proof, no materials..nothing, just talk...as always.
Does he bother to say that it's not thermite they have but iron dust, which THEY say is thermite?
Hey if you really want to give up on thinking and let morons like this do your thinking for you, you'll have no one to blame when you wake up one day and realize you've become a know-nothing idiot. UNREAL!
jandarian, Talk about letting others do your thinking, it looks like you like to have the government do yours. Ya thats right, 2 jets 3 buildings. Do you see something wrong with this. Consider that all the other WTC buildings were closer to the towers, but on 9/12 they were still standing. I can tell by your comments that you did not read Niels Harrit's report. I guess it is easier to just let the government do your thinking. Riiiight.
Wait, so the real code-breaker for you is that 2 doesn't equal 3?
Really? It's all a big cover-up because Jones says stuff you guys don't verify, and because 2 doesn't equal 3?
So you're saying, it MUST be inside job, because it is an impossibility to bring down 3 buildings with 2 planes?
That's weird, because in reality there were over 12 buildings destroyed by 2 planes. 12 doesn't equal 2. Must change story...this time..no inside job...IT WAS ALIENS! Why..because 12 doesn't equal 2!
Because there is such a mass of data, and study to absorb on the subject of WTC 9/11, you've decided it's far easier to just follow the JonesCo code, and then just relax..You put hardly any effort forth to figure things out. So easy it makes you wonder how they can call it secret!
1000s of people, have reviewed those materials...they say..no thermite.
8 scientists mostly estranged BEFORE 911, say Thermite.
Gee, most who see it know Gypsum and Iron are expected.
jandarian, Your a funny guy. I said 2 jets 3 buildings. I think everyone knows that I was talking about the only buildings that collapsed to the ground. Not the 12 or so that were damage. Don't mix apples and oranges. As for the eight scientist that put their reputation and careers on the line for this. I am guessing that they did their homework. After reading several books, viewing hundreds of videos and talking to others I concluded that 9/11 was an inside job, long before Jones.
1) The WTC 3 were NOT the only buildings to suffer near total destruction. Also, the WTC also were not 100% destroyed, the inner core of BOTH WTC stayed up after the initial attacks. So you're using bogus data to start with.
2) You are 'guessing' they did their homework? I like the more factual approach to things, but you can guess all you want.
3) 'Long before Jones'? WHA?! Jones was on the radio within 23 minutes to say it was an inside job.
Ive definitely got it now! It was Obama and Nancy Pelosi who planted the nano-thermite to blow up the Towers! They knew that Bush would fall for the Al-Qaeda thing and decide to kick some Islamic ass. This of course would inflame the liberal media to start a Bush hating campaign, opening the White House doors for the Democrats.
It was brilliant and we now know it worked perfectly. It was an inside job. Im convinced.
Because Obama and Pelosi had a midinght session.they past a law that only The medias knows about. It says that they cant tell us about the law or the thermite. good luck.
topcat113, Do your pajamas look like the American Flag. Your patriotism is blinding you. When people say it is an inside job, they are talking about the corrupt government officials in very high places. To understand this you must read a credible book on the history of the CIA. I am talking about a book that has testimony by witness to back up its claims. The world is run by world banks and corporations. You know there is no corruption there, right.
Demolition? Let's pretend we know nothing about 9/11. Then we collect all the information that we can. From videos, witnesses, police, fire, military, scientific data, known physics about building construction, WTC blue prints etc. If everyone is telling the truth and the videos have not been altered then there is only one theory that supports all of that information. That is a theory that can explain all of it. The official theory can not explain secondary explosions below the impact area
Wait, so your approach is, whatever the easiest explanation, that COULD satisfy the events that took place, MUST be the truth? Wow.
Actually, there are many theories that support the data. But thats the beauty of us not living in caves..we don't have to rely on easy analysis and apparent science. We can actually find out what's behind things.
Secondary explosions? Another topic covered and analyzed by hundreds. There were gas lines, transformers, tanks, compressed air..ALL would explode.
jandarian, What I am saying is the theory that can explain, or account for most of the known facts is the best theory. This is how criminal investigators work. If they know something for sure then what ever their hypothesis is it must include the known fact. You assume that gas lines, transformers, tanks and compressed air would all explode. Yes, they would. The only problem with this theory is the fire is at the top of the building and the explosions in question are very low in the building.
Yes but we have confirmed NYFD reports of molten materials running WITH gravity, that is, down any path of least resistance. There were tons of smoldering debris, and stuff that was on fire as it fell. When those objects comes smashing down they send their bits, after impact with the ground, out sideways, into buildings, into cars, into people, and since its on fire...it's going to cause massive fire and physical damage.
The BEST theory is one that fits the facts..not a predetermined agenda.
I respect your opinion, but HOW do you explain the unreacted thermitic material? Seriously?
I'm assuming you think it was a plant to discredit the govt official version?
Do you think the peer-reviewed scientific community are lying to the people?
I'm just curious. Everyone's entitled to their conclusions/opinions. I'm not attacking you. I want call you A CONSPIRACY THEORIST if you thing the scientist are lying.
Well, the WTC frames were made of Iron. So it's expected it would be plentiful. Gypsum...that's the drywall materials.
This is easy really, if they had a real sample of Thermite, it would be very, VERY easy to do an International study, offering small samples to indy labs, and let them test it.
8 yrs running, no verification of the material.
Not to forget, they never offered verification they even have a sample from WTC, they just say they do, how did they get it?
This site is of course about debunking 911 theories, and so is NOT designed to support a 911 CD theory, but to debunk them.
As long as you haven't been trained already to just dismiss this stuff, then you WILL find all the answers behind why thermite was just not a possibility.
I used to be a Truther, a very avid one at that....until i found this site (and others). After reviewing...i realized I had been conned.
I've been to that sight, jandarin, and it certainly doesn't explain all unanswered questions. Btw I have a B.S. so I know what "peer reviewed means.
What you're basically saying is that these scientists are lying, right? Are you saying the samples are plants?
What exactly are you saying?
Why don't you stop calling yourself those stupid labels like truther and C.T. Psychologically their used to automatically dismiss any info that precedes it.
I am saying, that no matter what the subject is, or how proven a theory may be, there will always be 'experts' who fall on the other side. In this case, are they being dishonest, to drum up money because the were likely already estranged from their peers? Maybe.
Maybe being an 'Expert' doesn't protect you from being tricked. Maybe they really believe it.
The point is though, there is no thermite from GZ. Only claimed thermite. Where are the official, public tests of the material?
First off, I do believe the steel sample itself was given to Jones by a firefighter, unamed, I'm sure. Secondly, I don't balk b/c there is no "official" "public" tests, b/c I know that people are fearful.
Be honest, do you think any public lab in the U.S. would even test that stuff..to go against their govt.?
You're right, it could be a lie. But I don't dismiss their findings b/c of no "official" public tests. People fear it, and no lab in the U.S. would touch it.
You are saying the NYFD crew are brave enough to lose 300 lives, but not to stand up against the thing that took their brothers lives'? Isn't it a little weird to insist that the only people brave enough to speak about "thermite", are the ones selling books filled with many verifiable lies and dis-info?
Really? The activist scientists that disagree with Jones..The FF's in NY? The NYPD? Clean up crews..none as 'brave' as JonesCo?
The dust and debris have been tested by hundreds of labs btw.
And that's a fair statement to make, regarding the names.
it's an easy habit to get into, when you debate at least a few hundred people a month, only to have most ignore the need to verify data..and when the few that don't ignore it, switch sides on this issue at the first sight of REAL, verified data..you begin to get frustrated quickly with those that cannot...especially when you know why they can't.
Good call. I'll make more effort to just drop the labels, as you are def right.
Also, be honest. How in hell could bldg. 7 fall exactly the same way? Exactly? Incredible. There are multiple examples of other steel frames heating up and burning as long, yet the building didn't pancake.
Also, let's be serious. Why did 9/11 commission deem the wiring of the money to M.A. by lead Pakinstan intelligence admin. "of little significance? Why was Bush Sr having relations with this man the next morning in N.Y.? Do you find it odd that M.Bush was head of security (cont.)
for the company in charge of security Dulles International Airport, WTC bldgs and Bldg 7 and one other very impt. bldg that was involved? It's a fact that Bin Ladin and the Bush family have Billion dollar interest together in The Carlyle Group, the world's largest weaponry manufacturer, and B.L. family was flown by OUR GOVT out of the U.S. (one Bin Ladin fmly member lived very close to CIA headquarters) and was flown out while the entire U.S. was grounded? I can go on and on and on....
And don't say something like "No, they are on the take, nothing they could say would matter!".
Because that is just not true. Especially when compared to the tiny amount of 'experts' backing Alex Jones...why listen to his paranoid rantings, and not at least consider what the overwhelming scientific majority thinks about this?
There are no holes in the NiST WTC7 report...except the psychological ones created by JonesCo.
I don't follow Alex Jones, I follow the findings of scientists, Sr military officials, engineers, and many many thousands of very educated people who are not afraid to question things that don't add up.
Waiting 7 years for a report on why bldg. 7 fell was outrageous on our govt.'s part btw. 7 years? Did they not think the people would want to know that?
The bottom line is, there are literally thousands of questions that are unanswered, or ignored. People want to know, and have every right to know. This makes people very, very suspicious. Americans are very alert and since 9/11 have learned much about the Fed and how the money system works. They know they've been played, and then there's bailouts.
Most of America is upset and fearful. It would be safe to say their are millions who aren't vocal, but have pulled there head out of the sand.
Like what? And why do you think they are ignored or unanswered? Spend time on the scientific websites: Pop Mech, JREF, NiST. If you ignore what the people you are accusing have to say, then how do you know what is or is not being ignored?
The whole "many ignored questions" schtick is a fav of the CT Industry.
I spent 8 yrs on 911, explored EVERY question raised, most were false arguments I wasted 7 yrs unraveling. TG I never gave them any money.
Like what? Well let's see. If a 9/11 commission doesn't think that the wiring of money to lead hijacker M.A. from assistant to Pakistani Intelligence is "of little significance" then it's going to raise a red flag. I'm automatically not going to Why? Because any good investigator knows that following the "motive" trail or money trail is crucial. They also know that the crime scene is crucial. Also, (again about money) the day b/f 9/11, a huge amount was missing from the defense budget.
If the wiring of the money is "unimportant, and Pakistani intelligence is having breakfast with Bush Sr in New York on the morning of 9/11, it's going to raise "ANY" persons suspicion if their neurons are firing in their brain.
Coincedence? Perhaps. but money trail not significant? bullshit. It's very significant. The bottom line is, I would like all those questions addressed, and if they're not true, then tell us so publicly, b/c 90% of this stuff is in the news.
If 90% is already in the news, then what is there to admit? It's already out!
The real point is then, what is the relevance to 911?
We can toss out suspicions all we want...and we can confirm things, but in the end if we can't tie them to a real point or claim, then what are you doing, except repeating someone else's BS?
You hundreds of questions btw, because you haven't figured out how to use what's already out there to answer them.
It also covers how there actually isn't a peer reviewed paper discussing Thermite or CD on 911.
Peer review is a very specific thing, and the term was used by Fetzer, Gage, Jones and others, without there actually being a peer reviewed paper.
debunking911 covers this topic as well.
Check it out, it cannot hurt to do so, and in the end if you still have to hold on to a well debunked theory, at least you will know why the Scientific world disagrees with you, from THEIR words, not Jones's.
jandarian, To be fair their is evidence that burning jet fuel came down the elevator shafts. Other than that there should be no fires down below. NIST stated that the fuel would have burned off in ten minutes. There is still a problem with fire in the elevator shafts. The shafts were staggered and the elevators at high levels did not go all the way to the ground. People had to change elevators at key floors.
jandarian, your theory possibly explains some explosions, but not all of the ones that the firefighters experienced. By the way on the equipment floors that were reinforced there were tanks of water (5,000 gallons)to assist with firefighting. Note, as the buildings collapsed they did not even slow down at these floors. Very odd.
'Firefighters experienced". Yes, and if you look at their reports, in FULL, not through a JonesCo site, you will see, many of these men never saw explosions, they heard things they reported to be LIKE explosions.
It also doesn't help that there isn't a single NY FF today claiming their were unexplainable explosions. They all know why there would be explosions down below.
Why would a 5000 gallon tank slow down the descent of a 500,000,000 kg building? It wouldn't..it couldn't.
He's certainly not talking about the water slowing down the floors falling, he's talking about the speed at which they fell, and they fell as if they met no resistance, as if the rooms were content free, concrete free, etc. Even with iron fatigue, etc., the fall was incredible...not even a pause for structure resistance, all concrete absolutely pulverized. That's what he's talking about, I believe.
Except there were hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete laying around everywhere...that doesn't sound like ALL concrete was pulverized.
Not even a verifiable theory at all. It's literally all just laying there.
Again though (because I am not wasting anymore time on 911 myself), debunking 911 has all that is needed from what I have seen, and if they don't, they link to massive resources.
Yes, there's some concrete intact, no doubt, but the bulk,pulverized.Surely the weight of the fall can do a lot of that, but it just seems a lot more that should have been. Have you ever been to a demolition? I've been to two, and I can't recall that much concrete dust certainly not 4 inches deep over a half a city the size of lower Manhattan, which some scientists to thermitic results
Btw, you totally dismissed my other questions, and theyrenot addressed on the cite you pose nor the 9/11 rpt
Prove this to yourself. Find out what the total amount of concrete, then look at how much was recovered. The bulk did not pulverize.
"but it just seems a lot more that should have been."
How much was there supposed to be? And why do you feel the 4" dust layer is concrete? Why is it not also: Ash, Insulation, Drywall (a massive amount of btw IS this), ceiling tile, soot, standard dust.
" I've been to two"
Ever been to one for a 200 story, Iron/Concrete building?
All interior objects are removed from the building, as is much or all drywall. CD's don't come after raging fires and airplane impacts. CD's weaken the entire structure for easy fall.
Thermite burns WITH gravity...there isn't ONE example of a core column ever cut through with thermite. It can't, doesn't burn sideways.
The pulverization issue is a CT claim, no official or indy account claims concrete was pulverized at all...only JonesCo does.
No offense, but what are you talking about? There's no prerequisite or protocol before or after an C.D.
Read Gage's findings on Thermite and thermate. The side angles are indicative of such.
As for pulverized concrete, I think you need to read further. There are multiple indy analysis concerning the AMOUNT of pulverized concrete, in particular regard to he amount of dust.
I know you RELY on govt official reports and debunk sites, but you need to read ALL analysis.
The dust. Yes, lots of dust. I fail to see how there is any kind of point here. But, you guys see something in the writings of Gage and Jones and others that those who really put their stuff to the test just do not see.
Sorry. But we can agree to disagree. 911 is just to well covered a topic to care too much anymore.
Speaking of considering all data, have you spent anytime on JREF yet? 911myths?
I know, the media loves us more than our mothers. The media doesn't want to make money from us like pigs in a pork factory. They love us so much while they prance about on their 40 million dollar yachts. You children, you disgusting naive fools perhaps this is what you deserve.
Ten Years have passed? The Media is owned by the elitist scum, they're not going to allow that kind of information out, all the news channels in America on 9/11 2001 sounded as if they were all reading from the same script. Wake up, this was expertly controlled demolition. This was a sacrifice by all the hidden organizations that J.F.K tried to warn people off in his last speech, the one that lead ot his assasination.
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Any findings of nano explosive dust was carried on by these insane animal arab muslim terrorists, as an insurance to accomplish the highest levels of pain suffering and destruction; in the name of the EVIL they were brainwashed to obey!
mossad and brits and usa all had hand in it ... do you think Bush calls the signals on anything, they planted him in a grammar school reading a book upside down. cheney was in bunker, rummy lying and slipping about missiles
Oh yeah not to mention the oh....100 MILLION wields on the buildings substructure using thermite and gas mig and tig welding equipment. And last time I checked Osama bin Laden and ALL his following was and still is wanted by the FBI.
What is interesting about Bhutto's comments in that western interview is not whether it was true or propaganda on her part, but how the western interviewer pretend not to hear it - There is the point you all need be stunned by. That he didn't cross-examine this epic passing non-chalent statement but rather pretended she hadn't said it and moved the topic ahead and away.
I am sick of this people. I have now had a gut for for 10 years. I am so sick of this crap. GET UP AND GET WITH IT!
Hahahhahaha, you idiots. Dont you realize that most subframe aircraft components are built using magnesium aluminum matrixes, and commercial aluminum? Mix that with jet fuel and pressure and DUHHHHH. IT BURNS LIKE HELL ON EARTH! Give my ass a break. I dont believe this anymore than pigs can fly. Not to mention the people detained in connection with this admitted to the whole damn thing.
And if i waterboarded you 265 times you would admit to being a fucking Gay German Butcher or anything else i wanted you to confess to being-genius.Don't be so stupid.
That Mazaauwi guy was shouting out as he left for his life sentence, "Bush will free me when he is re-elected" - The total delusional rantings of someone who has been broken and waterboarded for the last few years everyday.
This is sick. This tyranny is unheard of. If the jews would stop whining about their suffering in WW2 we could get on with pointing out that this hell we are in is 100 times worse than WW2.
I understand that. But asking Obama anything will accomplish nothing, other than getting yourself a little attention from the folks with the Black Suburbans!
Keep it out there, discussion on this topic is a good thing. Thanks !
This was tyhe gateway ritual. From this, the world has been transformed and the deceit of those responsible has been used to impose draconian laws to supress and destroy freedoms.
The world is waking, now is the time to pull the remaining facade that imprisons us, to call to justice all those who have collaborated to wreak such evil in this place.
The terrorists (Al Qaida) did crash planes in to the WTC - Some jerks knew that they were going to do this, so they took the opportunity to plant massive explosives in the building to make sure that the impact would be total. Who were these jerks? God knows, but my guess is that at the very least Dick Cheney, George Bush and some people in the Israeli government and intelligence service (Mosad) were behind and/or knew about this.
Awesome post. For the people who believe that terrorists did this, they are right in some ways. The real terrorists are the new world order ASSHOLES. This was clearly an act caused by the elite bastards, not a group of people from other countries. Wake up people, 9/11 was an inside job and here is great proof.
I'd rather see this video titled, Danish Chemist finds thermite in 9-11 dust. The title that it does have is going to cause a lot of folks not to watch it, I expect.
Thankyou for posting the video, and thankyou for changing the title.
The evidence that there is more to the collapse than the planes is a very hard reality for Americans to face, and I think your new title will help a few more of them to listen.
They found rust and Al, not thermite. When tested the energy from their dust did not match thermite. Jet fuel has over 10 times the heat energy of thermite - like brining a knife to a gun fight. Office fires have more heat energy than thermite.
Good find; a video of a paranoid conspiracy theorist spreading delusional nonsense.
iSunTzu 8 months ago
@iSunTzu
Haha fail! "rust" yeah sure. I tested it and found Iron Bru.
turbodude555 8 months ago
@turbodude555 Rust is in thermite, and iron is in rust. Check out the paper, it is fake, the energy in the paper from what they found does not match thermite, and has ten time less energy than jet fuel, and plastic. Even paper has more energy.
iSunTzu 8 months ago
@iSunTzu
I'm telling you it's IronBru! AlQaeda planted IronBru bottles all over the WTC's and remote detonated them by shaking up a can of Dr Pepper and opening the ring pull (don't try that at home kids). Didn't you get my paper? Seriously, your none-science is an insult to genuine research. The found the damn thermate/thermite chips that hadn't ignited. A microscopic slice of it had incredible explosive properties. Or we are led to believe many scientists and reviewers are ALL wrong...
turbodude555 8 months ago
@turbodude555 That is funny. Jones and Harrit had to pay to publish their paper, serious journals would not publish the fraud. A fringe few scientist prefer to make up nonsense due to political bias. Jones thinks the United State caused the earthquake in Haiti, and he made up the lie of thermite 4 years after 911 because he hates war. 19 terrorists did 911, no thermite was used. When you look at the chemical signature it look like they found clay. Did you do research to check the paper?
iSunTzu 8 months ago
THEY CALL MUSLIMS TERRORISTS BECAUSE OF THIS JOB
SAJEDMUNIR 1 year ago
5000 views "It's UNstoppable"
Twiztid1888 1 year ago
There is no "nano explosives".. Conspiracy-theorists are a shame to humankind. Mainly because they are uneducated and ignorant, and believe what fellow theorists tell them over scientists who bring forth a different truth than what the theorists would like to hear..
Grimmcorpse 1 year ago
@Grimmcorpse
Sure, eeeeeverybody who provides the science that contradicts the OCT are all of a sudden "uneducated" - just like Stephen E Jones, Niels Harrit, Richard Gage etc..
It doesn't matter wether they're firefighters, chemists, physisists, architects, engineers, or even demolition experts - they lose aaall their credemtials the moment they support other conspiracy theories than that of "Osama & Tha 19 Li'l Hijackers."
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 How can they provide "science that contradicts it" when they can't even find the raw-data supporting it? I mean.. just because you are e.g an engineer, you still need backup on your accusations.
Grimmcorpse 1 year ago
@Grimmcorpse
You can't provide what is being covered up. You can only use the brain yuo were born with and your logical sense - not at least as an expert.
"you still need backup on your accusations." You can tell that to the writers of the NIST report and the 9/11 Commission Report; they were ordered NOT to look intp the facts to back up their assertions.
But you just feel free to believe that "I'm with the criminals who covered it up!" is a way of "debunking."
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 Yes you can. If it happened, you'd be able to find evidences etc. And to believe in your logic is great, but it can also make you buy into shit like this. :)
When/where did someone tell them that?
Same to you, I'd bet you feel you are a proclaimer of truth even though there is so little evidences. It's like arguing with religious morons, because they rely more on the "human logic" which can be twisted and warped into believing anything, rather than mere facts..
Grimmcorpse 1 year ago
@Grimmcorpse
To buy into shit like believing that Osama & The 19 Lil Hijackers were behind 9/11 is not even logical. That displays the foul programming of man done by the elite.
Yep - there is little evidence - such as the above found from the bravest of the bravest fighting to get to the bottom of what is being covered up.
""human logic" which can be twisted and warped into believing anything, rather than mere facts.."!
So true! Example: watch?v=YMiqEUBux3o
Pure religion!
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 Why isn't that logical? How about other hijackers? Can't we believe that was the case then either? :)
Btw, there isn't any "nano explosives", just a name to make it more scary. Even TNT is "nano-explosives" if you make it small enough. Thermite is a compund of its own, nothing that the "nano-explosives" explains. A meaningless fucking term.
Grimmcorpse 1 year ago
@Grimmcorpse
Hey thanks a lot for your information man...the scientist said he found thermate but obviously he's just a lying conspiracy theorist.
GRimmcorpse, a guy on Youtube, says he's wrong.
Whose word do you take? Why the random commenter on Youtube of course!
Go away, government apologist
CarD51Short 1 year ago
@CarD51Short Thermite is just a common compound made of aluminium and rust technically. No spooky "nano explosive", thermite isn't even an explosive! You're the totally fucked up part of the conspiracy-theorists, blind faith in what fellow theorists say. Relieves you of the part where you have to think :) But of course, anything i say now is going to be "Gouvernment propaganda" or w/e, but that's fine.. we on the other side of your little bubble will just sit there and laugh :) at you
Grimmcorpse 1 year ago
Weird you know there was a video debunking this conspiracy theory, but it got flagged and taken down. Hmmm who is censoring again?
thekiller678 1 year ago
Scientific Facts,,are Not Conspiracy Theories. You Morons Who Don't Know by Now that 911 was an Inside Job,,You are Either One of Them Who want the NWO,,or You are Just a Dumb Ass. Pure and Simple,,the Evidence is Overwhelming by Any Means in Many Different Areas,,and It's Far Bigger and Farther Back then 911,,You Stupid Fucks are the Slap in the Face of the Victims and their Families. Backing Up Lies. Sheeple.
Mindcrime1994 2 years ago
LAME!
You stupid conspiracy theorists are a slap in the face to the surviving families of those who had perished on that day.
Typical sheep. There is no fact or reality presented in this idiocy.
spamvigilante 2 years ago
@spamvigilante
Umm there's no fact in a scientist claiming that, through the peer review process, he and four other scientists around the world all found thermate in the rubble using their advance expertise?
WAIT...BUT SOME GUY ON YOUTUBE NAMED SPAMVIGILANTE SAYS THEY ARE ALL LYING TO TRICK US! SPAMVIGILANTE IS A CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! HE THINKS SCIENTISTS ARE LYING FOR SOME REASON...HE GIVES NO EVIDENCE BUT HE KNOWS IT!!!
WHO DO YOU BELIEVE? SOME STUPID SCIENTISTS OR A GUY ON YOUTUBE?!?!
CarD51Short 1 year ago
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spamvigilante 1 year ago
@CarD51Short What is the scientist's area of expertise? Published paper subject to peer review? In what journal?
Die, troll.
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atta1798 1 year ago
@atta1798 Huh? Good copy/paste job. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Bye, you uneducated fool. Waste your keystrokes on someone who likes to decipher them into English.
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atta1798 1 year ago
@atta1798 Comment removed. What a pussy you are.
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atta1798 1 year ago
@atta1798 Ooh. The Police? I like Sting. They "is" [sic] watching me?
Begone, dumb fuck without gray matter.
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@atta1798 A few more exclamation marks might make you look like you have a double-wide in that trailer park, illiterate fool.
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atta1798 1 year ago
@atta1798 masoquist ??? masoquist ???
Yeah, I am the uneducated one. Try MASOCHIST.
Dimwit. You may go home from the public library computer to your trailer park now.
PWNED!
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atta1798 1 year ago
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@atta1798 Huh?
I told you many times to keep your ancestors last name out of youtube so your family with name dumb fuck gave you birth in the getho
WTF does that mean?
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@atta1798 Comment removed. HAH!
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atta1798 1 year ago
@atta1798 Just wow. Your trailer park English is proof enough to anyone who reads your idiocy to avoid the GOP like the plague.
It's like a billboard that says, "Conservatives are just stupid. Please never vote for us."
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atta1798 1 year ago
@atta1798 No, I never graduated Bigot. Is that the school you went to? It explains a lot.
Are you capable of independent thought? Why do you just copy others and their idiocy? Why do you not display the ability to think? Must be that great RED STATE EDJUMACATION you got from the school marm.
Keep it coming, fool.
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atta1798 1 year ago
911 attack was staged obviously,
the sleeping public does not want to accept this,
those who know the truth and accept it need to act,
we need unity,we need action,we need justice
mrnormaltron 2 years ago
amen
darealcase 2 years ago
I ready to act. What course of action do you suggest?
burkey1878 2 years ago
what about the truck found on the george washington bride 4 none arabs arrested they had a truck full of explosives
lethalintention 2 years ago
In answer to the "Who was in charge of the security at WTC and HOW could theramite get into the buildings?" The head of security was Marvin P. BUSH, yes little brother to then President GW Bush. Yep sheep, the BULLSHIT is getting very, very thick and piling almost as high as the WTC stood.
thelibertyblog 2 years ago
Actually, the head of WTC Security was John ONeill.
Get your facts straight before spreading more 911 BS CT crap.
Did you even bother to check this fact, or are you so desperate to be relevant you just don't care?
jandarian 2 years ago
Oh, and John ONeill died at his post, on 911. Read again: The ACTUAL head of security died in his building on 911.
Also, there is ZERO real evidence showing ANY relation between Marvin Bush and the presidential Bush family...at best, they are distant relatives with no verifiable connection.
Quit getting your info from a salesmen whose job it is to lie to you. Maybe some facts would be better to go on? maybe?
jandarian 2 years ago
Wiki: Marvin Pierce Bush (born October 22, 1956) is the youngest son of George H. W. Bush and Barbara Pierce, and brother of George W., John (Jeb), Neil and Dorothy. Hmmmm at best your a drooling fucktard who speaks out their ass and shits out their mouth, at worst you havn't killed yourself yet, but you should. Thank you for taking the time out of your worthless life to out yourself as one of youtubes most useless users. There is some facts to fit up your ass next to your dads cock. Enjoy :)
thelibertyblog 2 years ago
Securacom and Marvin Bush:
Securacom got the $8.3 million World Trade Center security contract in October 1996 and received about $9.2 million from the WTC job from 1996 (a quarter of its revenues that year) to 1998. But in 1998, the company was "excused from the project" because it could not fulfill the work, according to former manager Al Weinstein, and the electronic security work at the WTC was taken over by EJ Electric, a larger contractor.
WTC was secured also by Port Authority.
jandarian 2 years ago
Again: Securacom was NEVER in charge of WTC security..the Port Authority, the NYPD and several firms associated with Tenant companies...NEVER Securacom...so Marv's connection to the Bush family is weak evidence on it's own, no?
Securacom was a contractor only for WTC, working on security projects (publicly known) that ended in 1998.
The actual man in charge of coordinating the ACTUAL WTC security died at his post on 911...and you nuts take that away from him by claiming Marv was in charge.
jandarian 2 years ago
You are correct about Marv being their son....and I nvr meant to question that, I was going for the claim of the Walkers involved with Securacom being close to the Prez...but I apparently tripped over my data on that one and so yay, you got to correct me....
So, good call, it still just doesnt matter since the real lie here I'm debunking is that Marv Bush was in charge of security.
That IS a verifiable LIE by Griffin, handed down to everyone who repeats it without checking...like you maybe?
jandarian 2 years ago
back pedal, back pedal, opps your fell on your ass, or your head,its hard to tell with you. Your LACK and IMAGINATIVE idea of facts is really not worth the effort, you have already outted yourself as a bumbling tard. Marvin Bush BROTHER of GW Bush, and HEAD of security leading up to the 9-11 attacks. Whatever shit that leaks out your brain and on to the kep board is pointless and counter-productive since your digging your asstard hole ever deep with each stroke of a key. MY FACTS are verified.
thelibertyblog 2 years ago
I corrected my own mistake...as is the proper thing to do, dude.
Anyway, the rest is all correct, Marvin Bush was not in charge of Security man...try looking it up in places where what actually happened is told...not just assumptions about Marv, serving in a BOARD position over a company that operated as a contractor.
Try looking it up....instead of just denying reality here dude. Who cares about my mistake, what matters is what IS true. Marv was head of NOTHING relating to WTC...EVER.
jandarian 2 years ago
im not a american so dont shout on me for not knowing to much but i heard us goverment provided this not the atack
CG1baper 2 years ago
Awesome. Thank You!!
EyeAmSoul 2 years ago
You responded to someone criticizing a man for not being a scientist with a jab towards the 9/11 commission report. If you didn't think it was written by scientists, then your response doesn't make sense.
uberjim83 2 years ago
You are trying to equate a critique of his presentation with support for the 911CR...WHY? Afraid to stay on point?
No equating needed. He didn't present the materials..which have been examined by 100s if not 1000s of people, to be nearly unanimously ID'd as just Iron and paint. Instead he chooses to make his argument purely from a anecdotal point of view. Anyone finding validation for any agenda in this would just be reaching.
But you CT types don't have much taste for science I've noticed.
jandarian 2 years ago
The commission report wasn't written by scientists.
uberjim83 2 years ago
OMG! How can anyone call this man a scientist? He just makes the same claims over and over. No proof, no materials..nothing, just talk...as always.
Does he bother to say that it's not thermite they have but iron dust, which THEY say is thermite?
Hey if you really want to give up on thinking and let morons like this do your thinking for you, you'll have no one to blame when you wake up one day and realize you've become a know-nothing idiot. UNREAL!
jandarian 2 years ago
jandarian, Talk about letting others do your thinking, it looks like you like to have the government do yours. Ya thats right, 2 jets 3 buildings. Do you see something wrong with this. Consider that all the other WTC buildings were closer to the towers, but on 9/12 they were still standing. I can tell by your comments that you did not read Niels Harrit's report. I guess it is easier to just let the government do your thinking. Riiiight.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
Wait, so the real code-breaker for you is that 2 doesn't equal 3?
Really? It's all a big cover-up because Jones says stuff you guys don't verify, and because 2 doesn't equal 3?
So you're saying, it MUST be inside job, because it is an impossibility to bring down 3 buildings with 2 planes?
That's weird, because in reality there were over 12 buildings destroyed by 2 planes. 12 doesn't equal 2. Must change story...this time..no inside job...IT WAS ALIENS! Why..because 12 doesn't equal 2!
jandarian 2 years ago
Because there is such a mass of data, and study to absorb on the subject of WTC 9/11, you've decided it's far easier to just follow the JonesCo code, and then just relax..You put hardly any effort forth to figure things out. So easy it makes you wonder how they can call it secret!
1000s of people, have reviewed those materials...they say..no thermite.
8 scientists mostly estranged BEFORE 911, say Thermite.
Gee, most who see it know Gypsum and Iron are expected.
When is the End of Woo?
jandarian 2 years ago
jandarian, Your a funny guy. I said 2 jets 3 buildings. I think everyone knows that I was talking about the only buildings that collapsed to the ground. Not the 12 or so that were damage. Don't mix apples and oranges. As for the eight scientist that put their reputation and careers on the line for this. I am guessing that they did their homework. After reading several books, viewing hundreds of videos and talking to others I concluded that 9/11 was an inside job, long before Jones.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
1) The WTC 3 were NOT the only buildings to suffer near total destruction. Also, the WTC also were not 100% destroyed, the inner core of BOTH WTC stayed up after the initial attacks. So you're using bogus data to start with.
2) You are 'guessing' they did their homework? I like the more factual approach to things, but you can guess all you want.
3) 'Long before Jones'? WHA?! Jones was on the radio within 23 minutes to say it was an inside job.
EVERY point you made was incorrect.
jandarian 2 years ago
There is so many of us now that they have to kill us all. I got my ticket punched already. how about you?
goldmakers 2 years ago
Ive definitely got it now! It was Obama and Nancy Pelosi who planted the nano-thermite to blow up the Towers! They knew that Bush would fall for the Al-Qaeda thing and decide to kick some Islamic ass. This of course would inflame the liberal media to start a Bush hating campaign, opening the White House doors for the Democrats.
It was brilliant and we now know it worked perfectly. It was an inside job. Im convinced.
Why hasnt the media reported any of this???
topcat113 2 years ago
Because Obama and Pelosi had a midinght session.they past a law that only The medias knows about. It says that they cant tell us about the law or the thermite. good luck.
goldmakers 2 years ago
topcat113, Do your pajamas look like the American Flag. Your patriotism is blinding you. When people say it is an inside job, they are talking about the corrupt government officials in very high places. To understand this you must read a credible book on the history of the CIA. I am talking about a book that has testimony by witness to back up its claims. The world is run by world banks and corporations. You know there is no corruption there, right.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
Yes, corruption for sure.
But again, this is a simple tactic you're using, and likely have been used by.
Equating corruption with a 911 Inside Job is weak at best.
N one is asking for proof of corruption, but rather proof of Controlled Demolition.
Equating that with ANYTHING else, is simply a cult tactic taught by Jones, Icke and others.
jandarian 2 years ago
Demolition? Let's pretend we know nothing about 9/11. Then we collect all the information that we can. From videos, witnesses, police, fire, military, scientific data, known physics about building construction, WTC blue prints etc. If everyone is telling the truth and the videos have not been altered then there is only one theory that supports all of that information. That is a theory that can explain all of it. The official theory can not explain secondary explosions below the impact area
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
Wait, so your approach is, whatever the easiest explanation, that COULD satisfy the events that took place, MUST be the truth? Wow.
Actually, there are many theories that support the data. But thats the beauty of us not living in caves..we don't have to rely on easy analysis and apparent science. We can actually find out what's behind things.
Secondary explosions? Another topic covered and analyzed by hundreds. There were gas lines, transformers, tanks, compressed air..ALL would explode.
jandarian 2 years ago
jandarian, What I am saying is the theory that can explain, or account for most of the known facts is the best theory. This is how criminal investigators work. If they know something for sure then what ever their hypothesis is it must include the known fact. You assume that gas lines, transformers, tanks and compressed air would all explode. Yes, they would. The only problem with this theory is the fire is at the top of the building and the explosions in question are very low in the building.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
Yes but we have confirmed NYFD reports of molten materials running WITH gravity, that is, down any path of least resistance. There were tons of smoldering debris, and stuff that was on fire as it fell. When those objects comes smashing down they send their bits, after impact with the ground, out sideways, into buildings, into cars, into people, and since its on fire...it's going to cause massive fire and physical damage.
The BEST theory is one that fits the facts..not a predetermined agenda.
jandarian 2 years ago
Know what a 100 tons of concrete sounds like when it hits the ground from 100 stories above the ground?
Explosions.
How about the sound of 20' sections of iron slamming into the ground?
Explosions.
What does a plane, slamming into the WTC 1 tower sound like to the crews working to save lives in WTC 2?
Explosions.
And with great Respect to the Lost, what do humans sound like when they slam into things from 100 stories?
Explosions.
Listen to the Fire crews, those guys know what happened.
jandarian 2 years ago
I respect your opinion, but HOW do you explain the unreacted thermitic material? Seriously?
I'm assuming you think it was a plant to discredit the govt official version?
Do you think the peer-reviewed scientific community are lying to the people?
I'm just curious. Everyone's entitled to their conclusions/opinions. I'm not attacking you. I want call you A CONSPIRACY THEORIST if you thing the scientist are lying.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
I can explain very easily:
The ONLY people claiming to have found unreacted thermite are 911 Truthers themselves. They just won't 'release' any for testing.
How ever, there are plenty of labs that do have the same material, and have ID'd it as being nothing more than Gypsum, Iron oxides and Paint.
Why do the Truthers keep calling this material 'Thermite'? Because it contains Iron, as thermite 'sometimes' does.
That is it. They make the call based purely on the presence of Iron.
con't...
jandarian 2 years ago
Why would there be Iron?
Well, the WTC frames were made of Iron. So it's expected it would be plentiful. Gypsum...that's the drywall materials.
This is easy really, if they had a real sample of Thermite, it would be very, VERY easy to do an International study, offering small samples to indy labs, and let them test it.
8 yrs running, no verification of the material.
Not to forget, they never offered verification they even have a sample from WTC, they just say they do, how did they get it?
jandarian 2 years ago
I would suggest you review the materials here:
debunking911
This site is of course about debunking 911 theories, and so is NOT designed to support a 911 CD theory, but to debunk them.
As long as you haven't been trained already to just dismiss this stuff, then you WILL find all the answers behind why thermite was just not a possibility.
I used to be a Truther, a very avid one at that....until i found this site (and others). After reviewing...i realized I had been conned.
jandarian 2 years ago
I've been to that sight, jandarin, and it certainly doesn't explain all unanswered questions. Btw I have a B.S. so I know what "peer reviewed means.
What you're basically saying is that these scientists are lying, right? Are you saying the samples are plants?
What exactly are you saying?
Why don't you stop calling yourself those stupid labels like truther and C.T. Psychologically their used to automatically dismiss any info that precedes it.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
I am saying, that no matter what the subject is, or how proven a theory may be, there will always be 'experts' who fall on the other side. In this case, are they being dishonest, to drum up money because the were likely already estranged from their peers? Maybe.
Maybe being an 'Expert' doesn't protect you from being tricked. Maybe they really believe it.
The point is though, there is no thermite from GZ. Only claimed thermite. Where are the official, public tests of the material?
jandarian 2 years ago
First off, I do believe the steel sample itself was given to Jones by a firefighter, unamed, I'm sure. Secondly, I don't balk b/c there is no "official" "public" tests, b/c I know that people are fearful.
Be honest, do you think any public lab in the U.S. would even test that stuff..to go against their govt.?
You're right, it could be a lie. But I don't dismiss their findings b/c of no "official" public tests. People fear it, and no lab in the U.S. would touch it.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
You are saying the NYFD crew are brave enough to lose 300 lives, but not to stand up against the thing that took their brothers lives'? Isn't it a little weird to insist that the only people brave enough to speak about "thermite", are the ones selling books filled with many verifiable lies and dis-info?
Really? The activist scientists that disagree with Jones..The FF's in NY? The NYPD? Clean up crews..none as 'brave' as JonesCo?
The dust and debris have been tested by hundreds of labs btw.
jandarian 2 years ago
And that's a fair statement to make, regarding the names.
it's an easy habit to get into, when you debate at least a few hundred people a month, only to have most ignore the need to verify data..and when the few that don't ignore it, switch sides on this issue at the first sight of REAL, verified data..you begin to get frustrated quickly with those that cannot...especially when you know why they can't.
Good call. I'll make more effort to just drop the labels, as you are def right.
jandarian 2 years ago
Thanks for talking with me about it. I'm glad you found the answers you're looking for. I'm not there yet.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
Keep in mind though, I am only using the same Labels that Alex Jones himself uses to describe himself and his followers.
So there is a fairness there, but it never has the tone of it, and affects how people think, so your point is still very very valid.
jandarian 2 years ago
Also, be honest. How in hell could bldg. 7 fall exactly the same way? Exactly? Incredible. There are multiple examples of other steel frames heating up and burning as long, yet the building didn't pancake.
Also, let's be serious. Why did 9/11 commission deem the wiring of the money to M.A. by lead Pakinstan intelligence admin. "of little significance? Why was Bush Sr having relations with this man the next morning in N.Y.? Do you find it odd that M.Bush was head of security (cont.)
blaziermissy 2 years ago
for the company in charge of security Dulles International Airport, WTC bldgs and Bldg 7 and one other very impt. bldg that was involved? It's a fact that Bin Ladin and the Bush family have Billion dollar interest together in The Carlyle Group, the world's largest weaponry manufacturer, and B.L. family was flown by OUR GOVT out of the U.S. (one Bin Ladin fmly member lived very close to CIA headquarters) and was flown out while the entire U.S. was grounded? I can go on and on and on....
blaziermissy 2 years ago
It didn't fall exactly the same.
Have you looked at the Nist Reports?
And don't say something like "No, they are on the take, nothing they could say would matter!".
Because that is just not true. Especially when compared to the tiny amount of 'experts' backing Alex Jones...why listen to his paranoid rantings, and not at least consider what the overwhelming scientific majority thinks about this?
There are no holes in the NiST WTC7 report...except the psychological ones created by JonesCo.
jandarian 2 years ago
I don't follow Alex Jones, I follow the findings of scientists, Sr military officials, engineers, and many many thousands of very educated people who are not afraid to question things that don't add up.
Waiting 7 years for a report on why bldg. 7 fell was outrageous on our govt.'s part btw. 7 years? Did they not think the people would want to know that?
blaziermissy 2 years ago
The bottom line is, there are literally thousands of questions that are unanswered, or ignored. People want to know, and have every right to know. This makes people very, very suspicious. Americans are very alert and since 9/11 have learned much about the Fed and how the money system works. They know they've been played, and then there's bailouts.
Most of America is upset and fearful. It would be safe to say their are millions who aren't vocal, but have pulled there head out of the sand.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
"questions that are unanswered, or ignored."
Like what? And why do you think they are ignored or unanswered? Spend time on the scientific websites: Pop Mech, JREF, NiST. If you ignore what the people you are accusing have to say, then how do you know what is or is not being ignored?
The whole "many ignored questions" schtick is a fav of the CT Industry.
I spent 8 yrs on 911, explored EVERY question raised, most were false arguments I wasted 7 yrs unraveling. TG I never gave them any money.
jandarian 2 years ago
Like what? Well let's see. If a 9/11 commission doesn't think that the wiring of money to lead hijacker M.A. from assistant to Pakistani Intelligence is "of little significance" then it's going to raise a red flag. I'm automatically not going to Why? Because any good investigator knows that following the "motive" trail or money trail is crucial. They also know that the crime scene is crucial. Also, (again about money) the day b/f 9/11, a huge amount was missing from the defense budget.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
Do you really want me to continue? I have more than a hundred questions...
blaziermissy 2 years ago
If the wiring of the money is "unimportant, and Pakistani intelligence is having breakfast with Bush Sr in New York on the morning of 9/11, it's going to raise "ANY" persons suspicion if their neurons are firing in their brain.
Coincedence? Perhaps. but money trail not significant? bullshit. It's very significant. The bottom line is, I would like all those questions addressed, and if they're not true, then tell us so publicly, b/c 90% of this stuff is in the news.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
You contradict yourself:
If 90% is already in the news, then what is there to admit? It's already out!
The real point is then, what is the relevance to 911?
We can toss out suspicions all we want...and we can confirm things, but in the end if we can't tie them to a real point or claim, then what are you doing, except repeating someone else's BS?
You hundreds of questions btw, because you haven't figured out how to use what's already out there to answer them.
jandarian 2 years ago
It also covers how there actually isn't a peer reviewed paper discussing Thermite or CD on 911.
Peer review is a very specific thing, and the term was used by Fetzer, Gage, Jones and others, without there actually being a peer reviewed paper.
debunking911 covers this topic as well.
Check it out, it cannot hurt to do so, and in the end if you still have to hold on to a well debunked theory, at least you will know why the Scientific world disagrees with you, from THEIR words, not Jones's.
jandarian 2 years ago
jandarian, To be fair their is evidence that burning jet fuel came down the elevator shafts. Other than that there should be no fires down below. NIST stated that the fuel would have burned off in ten minutes. There is still a problem with fire in the elevator shafts. The shafts were staggered and the elevators at high levels did not go all the way to the ground. People had to change elevators at key floors.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
jandarian, your theory possibly explains some explosions, but not all of the ones that the firefighters experienced. By the way on the equipment floors that were reinforced there were tanks of water (5,000 gallons)to assist with firefighting. Note, as the buildings collapsed they did not even slow down at these floors. Very odd.
lizardfirefighter110 2 years ago
'Firefighters experienced". Yes, and if you look at their reports, in FULL, not through a JonesCo site, you will see, many of these men never saw explosions, they heard things they reported to be LIKE explosions.
It also doesn't help that there isn't a single NY FF today claiming their were unexplainable explosions. They all know why there would be explosions down below.
Why would a 5000 gallon tank slow down the descent of a 500,000,000 kg building? It wouldn't..it couldn't.
jandarian 2 years ago
He's certainly not talking about the water slowing down the floors falling, he's talking about the speed at which they fell, and they fell as if they met no resistance, as if the rooms were content free, concrete free, etc. Even with iron fatigue, etc., the fall was incredible...not even a pause for structure resistance, all concrete absolutely pulverized. That's what he's talking about, I believe.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
Except there were hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete laying around everywhere...that doesn't sound like ALL concrete was pulverized.
Not even a verifiable theory at all. It's literally all just laying there.
Again though (because I am not wasting anymore time on 911 myself), debunking 911 has all that is needed from what I have seen, and if they don't, they link to massive resources.
Maybe he needs to just do some serious reading?
jandarian 2 years ago
Yes, there's some concrete intact, no doubt, but the bulk,pulverized.Surely the weight of the fall can do a lot of that, but it just seems a lot more that should have been. Have you ever been to a demolition? I've been to two, and I can't recall that much concrete dust certainly not 4 inches deep over a half a city the size of lower Manhattan, which some scientists to thermitic results
Btw, you totally dismissed my other questions, and theyrenot addressed on the cite you pose nor the 9/11 rpt
blaziermissy 2 years ago
"...but the bulk."
Prove this to yourself. Find out what the total amount of concrete, then look at how much was recovered. The bulk did not pulverize.
"but it just seems a lot more that should have been."
How much was there supposed to be? And why do you feel the 4" dust layer is concrete? Why is it not also: Ash, Insulation, Drywall (a massive amount of btw IS this), ceiling tile, soot, standard dust.
" I've been to two"
Ever been to one for a 200 story, Iron/Concrete building?
..more..
jandarian 2 years ago
CD's are prepared:
All interior objects are removed from the building, as is much or all drywall. CD's don't come after raging fires and airplane impacts. CD's weaken the entire structure for easy fall.
Thermite burns WITH gravity...there isn't ONE example of a core column ever cut through with thermite. It can't, doesn't burn sideways.
The pulverization issue is a CT claim, no official or indy account claims concrete was pulverized at all...only JonesCo does.
Straw-man arguments.
jandarian 2 years ago
No offense, but what are you talking about? There's no prerequisite or protocol before or after an C.D.
Read Gage's findings on Thermite and thermate. The side angles are indicative of such.
As for pulverized concrete, I think you need to read further. There are multiple indy analysis concerning the AMOUNT of pulverized concrete, in particular regard to he amount of dust.
I know you RELY on govt official reports and debunk sites, but you need to read ALL analysis.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
I have read the JonesCo stuff, thank you.
The dust. Yes, lots of dust. I fail to see how there is any kind of point here. But, you guys see something in the writings of Gage and Jones and others that those who really put their stuff to the test just do not see.
Sorry. But we can agree to disagree. 911 is just to well covered a topic to care too much anymore.
Speaking of considering all data, have you spent anytime on JREF yet? 911myths?
jandarian 2 years ago
"Why hasnt the media reported any of this???"
I know, the media loves us more than our mothers. The media doesn't want to make money from us like pigs in a pork factory. They love us so much while they prance about on their 40 million dollar yachts. You children, you disgusting naive fools perhaps this is what you deserve.
Focoist911 2 years ago
Ten Years have passed? The Media is owned by the elitist scum, they're not going to allow that kind of information out, all the news channels in America on 9/11 2001 sounded as if they were all reading from the same script. Wake up, this was expertly controlled demolition. This was a sacrifice by all the hidden organizations that J.F.K tried to warn people off in his last speech, the one that lead ot his assasination.
B1N4RYGH0ST 2 years ago
9/11 and 7/7 were INSIDE JOBS - it's a total no-brainer.
daviduk40 2 years ago
you would require a brain at least.
Focoist911 2 years ago
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The thermite residue came from the fireproofing you fucking idiots.
godzilla1234567890 2 years ago
Fireproofing has explosives in it????
That's brilliant.
ed11561 2 years ago
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Any findings of nano explosive dust was carried on by these insane animal arab muslim terrorists, as an insurance to accomplish the highest levels of pain suffering and destruction; in the name of the EVIL they were brainwashed to obey!
EGMAG 2 years ago
Guess we won't be seeing this on American mainstream newstations...
un4g1v3n1 2 years ago
great stuff my man, thanks!! where are all the sheep to back up their beloved leaders like soetoro and 43
pt1gard 2 years ago
i really dont get it no more.
i was a 911-conspiracy theorist once but now im not so sure no more.
in 2002 we were all sure that George Bush planted pounds of plastic explosives (c4) in the towers.
Then the theory was that the towers were brought down by termite.
Then it was super termite.
and now it is nano-termite.
seriously: istn it time to admit that george bush, CIA and dick cheney were to retarded to pull of 9/11 and make others look guilty.
Not all people outside USA are angels.
Cyberspammer2000 2 years ago
mossad and brits and usa all had hand in it ... do you think Bush calls the signals on anything, they planted him in a grammar school reading a book upside down. cheney was in bunker, rummy lying and slipping about missiles
pt1gard 2 years ago
"do you think Bush calls the signals on anything, they planted him in a grammar school reading a book upside down."
LOL
straydog02 2 years ago
Oh yeah not to mention the oh....100 MILLION wields on the buildings substructure using thermite and gas mig and tig welding equipment. And last time I checked Osama bin Laden and ALL his following was and still is wanted by the FBI.
sysopkc 2 years ago
"Osama bin Laden and ALL his following was and still is wanted by the FBI"
Osama is NOT wanted by the Fbi for 911-they have no proof he is guilty at all.
Osama denied it 4 times himself and said-"LOOK INSIDE YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT"
Shit he should know-THE FUCKING CIA TRAINED HIM.-FACT
ed11561 2 years ago
obl been dead for years, he was never wanted by fbi, all his vids were fakes--do some research 101? check out the bhutto frost interview.
pt1gard 2 years ago
What is interesting about Bhutto's comments in that western interview is not whether it was true or propaganda on her part, but how the western interviewer pretend not to hear it - There is the point you all need be stunned by. That he didn't cross-examine this epic passing non-chalent statement but rather pretended she hadn't said it and moved the topic ahead and away.
I am sick of this people. I have now had a gut for for 10 years. I am so sick of this crap. GET UP AND GET WITH IT!
Focoist911 2 years ago
Hahahhahaha, you idiots. Dont you realize that most subframe aircraft components are built using magnesium aluminum matrixes, and commercial aluminum? Mix that with jet fuel and pressure and DUHHHHH. IT BURNS LIKE HELL ON EARTH! Give my ass a break. I dont believe this anymore than pigs can fly. Not to mention the people detained in connection with this admitted to the whole damn thing.
sysopkc 2 years ago
And if i waterboarded you 265 times you would admit to being a fucking Gay German Butcher or anything else i wanted you to confess to being-genius.Don't be so stupid.
ed11561 2 years ago
Not to mention the people detained in connection with this admitted to the whole damn thing."
WHAT?AFTER THEY WERE WATERBOARDED 186 TIMES?I'D ADMIT IT TOO GENIUS.
ed11561 2 years ago
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Subscribe and open your eyes.
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ACriticalState 2 years ago
That Mazaauwi guy was shouting out as he left for his life sentence, "Bush will free me when he is re-elected" - The total delusional rantings of someone who has been broken and waterboarded for the last few years everyday.
This is sick. This tyranny is unheard of. If the jews would stop whining about their suffering in WW2 we could get on with pointing out that this hell we are in is 100 times worse than WW2.
Focoist911 2 years ago
In what way?
uberjim83 2 years ago
thanks
jgjamesgold 2 years ago
Nail TO THE COFFIN.. Well done to the scientist.
As for the guys are believe 9/11 was committed by some guys in a cave who masterminded and broke through the most protected areas in the world then...
YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
josevanreyes 2 years ago 2
Some one should tell this fool that
Mossavi has been charged and admitted to the crime.
khalid Muhammad has been charged and admitted in court.
Osama openly bragged on video
Muslims fanatics called the 19 hijackers as magnificent 19
exmuslim007 2 years ago
Bullshit-osama denied it 4 times immediately afterward- he didn't do it genius.
ed11561 2 years ago
Ask Obama? What do you think that tool will do?
Not a Damn thing - that's what !
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB !
SandmanComes 2 years ago 2
posting on the white house channel will be for the obama followers
jeffgatesnc 2 years ago
I understand that. But asking Obama anything will accomplish nothing, other than getting yourself a little attention from the folks with the Black Suburbans!
Keep it out there, discussion on this topic is a good thing. Thanks !
SandmanComes 2 years ago
Yo dude- how do u come up with all these great vids??Keep it up.
ed11561 2 years ago
this needs to go out to the white house channel here on youtube were you can get others envolved
ask obama for answers, a new investigation
jeffgatesnc 2 years ago
Where did they publish this research?
scr4pp7 2 years ago
This is great. Thank you for posting.
tylthomas 2 years ago
How did they get a hold of that dust? From where was it recovered?
fergus247 2 years ago
I'd heard it was produced from somone who lived in NYC who saved it. There r other articles out that probably have that info exactly.
BailOutPeople dotttooo orororog
madebutante 2 years ago
Yes there were collected 4 samples for the repport this man has done. One of them a few hours later, and the rest the next days.
Degredan 2 years ago
911 INSIDE JOB BUILDING 7 PROVES IT
REPENTANCETOALLAH 2 years ago 3
This was tyhe gateway ritual. From this, the world has been transformed and the deceit of those responsible has been used to impose draconian laws to supress and destroy freedoms.
The world is waking, now is the time to pull the remaining facade that imprisons us, to call to justice all those who have collaborated to wreak such evil in this place.
pondman27 2 years ago 3
I don't buy into most of the conspiracy stuff, but stopping evil is something I can get behind :)
uberjim83 2 years ago
WOW this is amazing.
agentzippo 2 years ago 2
I'm glad to see an official news report on this, but you can learn much more about this in detail in the video "Improbable collapse"
bLOOdSAW3L337 2 years ago
I've known the buildings were dropped since 2003 - Thank you for posting - at least watch loose change - again
We need to try Bush and Cheney for treason, and crimes against humanity
okiedragonlady2 2 years ago
"We're not your slaves Rothchild! Rothchild you don't own me!"
CurtmanZ 2 years ago 2
Just specialized thermite.
I sayd that all the time. :)
aerobique 2 years ago
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
GoodGuy4life199 2 years ago
the real terrorists aren't in caves wearing turbans, they live in mansions and strut in clean cut suites and ties.
streetz23 2 years ago
The terrorists (Al Qaida) did crash planes in to the WTC - Some jerks knew that they were going to do this, so they took the opportunity to plant massive explosives in the building to make sure that the impact would be total. Who were these jerks? God knows, but my guess is that at the very least Dick Cheney, George Bush and some people in the Israeli government and intelligence service (Mosad) were behind and/or knew about this.
tubesrw 2 years ago
Awesome post. For the people who believe that terrorists did this, they are right in some ways. The real terrorists are the new world order ASSHOLES. This was clearly an act caused by the elite bastards, not a group of people from other countries. Wake up people, 9/11 was an inside job and here is great proof.
Peace
Rob
RJBedard 2 years ago
I'd rather see this video titled, Danish Chemist finds thermite in 9-11 dust. The title that it does have is going to cause a lot of folks not to watch it, I expect.
givebirthathome 2 years ago
It is not a Danish Chemist who found it. There are a group of scientists, and Professor Steven Jones among most of them is American.
RabbitNexus 2 years ago
Even though it's not only a danish analysis, givebirthathome is still right, it was not a good title. I have altered it now.
jakoxn 2 years ago
Thankyou for posting the video, and thankyou for changing the title.
The evidence that there is more to the collapse than the planes is a very hard reality for Americans to face, and I think your new title will help a few more of them to listen.
givebirthathome 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing ,Finally, the whole truth has published,,, they can not be more intelligent than all the world.!!!!
Boulkhodra 2 years ago 2