Ktm 144 sx 2 -stroke eating 450 4 - stroke

[tom290t]

if you aint mixin gas you aint haulin ass....

[simba612]

the bike is still awesome being first on 450f's! stop hatin and love the sweet sound of that super prime 2 stroke <3

[NSDwowz]

BEND IT 2STROKE, BEND IT! 

[mxstar267]

what a shithole

[TeoZMuff313]

450 is faster than a 500 2 stroke

[MxQuestion572]

@TeoZMuff313 What? No.

[the3bigreddevils]

@TeoZMuff313 no its deffinitly not faster, just quicker in the lower rpm ranges, 2strokes will smoke 4strokes in a str8 up drag race

[TeoZMuff313]

@the3bigreddevils no its faster

[the3bigreddevils]

@TeoZMuff313 top end? idk bro

[vetb882]

@TeoZMuff313 bro you are so wrong, if its hard packed and slippery then yes, thats where 4t has an advantage, they dont spin the wheel loose but in all other save for mud, 2t will always be faster, it spools up quicker, get into the power quicker, 4t advantage is less aggressive hit and tractable power.

[Aqaro]

its all about rider, not bike, idiots

[Superbongification]

Looks like the two stroke is going to get lapped.

[coronermetl]

@Superbongification umm you do realize the 2 strokes in first right?

[the3bigreddevils]

@Superbongification lol serious?

[plow250]

its probably b/c the 450 riders suck ass! lol

[TeoZMuff313]

well the riders must suck if they get beat by a 85, probably there first race

[TeoZMuff313]

its the rider cause a 450 would make absolute shit outa a 150

[21mxracer]

@TeoZMuff313 nah bro.. iv seen kids o 85s smok the hell out of 250s and 450s

[vetb882]

@21mxracer my points exactly, whatever your speed is is what its gonna be regardless of the bike, strokes will cost you a fortune AND they make you a lazy rider, when the track gets technical you didnt learn throttle control, body positioning, you just learned to sit there twist n go...

[ilikepie5720]

@vetb882 do the work yourself and it's not so expensive, and working smarter not harder is the name of the game right? Ride hard by all means, just work less than the guy on the 2 stroke to get the same results. And take any bike into the woods, you'll learn your control there, or go off a cliff, take your pick, strokes don't matter at that point.

[vetb882]

@ilikepie5720 if youre like my brother, a professional mechanic. My knowledge stops at doing a top end on a two stroke. Im not against 4 strokes as much as I am against the conspiracy that is doing away with them, anyone can jump a 50 jump on a four stroke, you almost cant help it, the same jump on a 2strokes requires effort. tracks were changed to give advantage to 4strokes. even it back out, 250 vs 250, regardless of strokes. and bump 2strokes back to 400cc a 450cc 2t would SMOKE a 450 4t.

[ilikepie5720]

@vetb882 i learned because i'm a college student and don't have a choice. The 250f's and 250 smokers aren't even close on paper, nor in performance. Identical power outputs is fair, or i'll make a bike to harness the power within 250cc or radioactive matter, pump it to an electric motor, and game on. Feasible no, point to say something may be more powerful than a 250 2t with equal displacement in the future? Yes. When something can beat a smoker, are you gonna fight to level the playing field?

[vetb882]

@ilikepie5720 Im with you man, you missed my point. my point is the AMA willfully changed everything at the factories request to kill the 2 stroke, dealers were not making money cos guys fix them themselves and so this is the conspiracy. tracks changed to big wide bowl turns so you dont feel the weight of the 4t. John Dowd ws orderd my Kawi factory to STOP racing a hybrid 2t 350cc, he was winning all the races in NESC against hot rod 450s and it made them look bad, they called and ORDERED him.

[ilikepie5720]

@vetb882 i got your viewpoint man, i was just throwing it out there for food for thought. What's funny is yamaha still fields a 250 in SX. 08 was the last year of the rm's, well it was also the year of a stock market crash where no dealer was making anything anyway, it wasn't service. most shops make money on road bikes anyway for service. And berms allow you to go faster, period, physics, weight is actually more prominent in a bank on a 4 stroke, the vertical weight component is greater than 2t

[vetb882]

@ilikepie5720 :) Im making a wild guess here, youre an engineering student. Good luck with school, and your motocross riding/racing. Im just getting back into moto after 6 years road cycling.

[ilikepie5720]

@vetb882 lol, yeah mechanical engineering. I was watching some footage from the 2004 supercross season and those 2 strokes rip, i think if the development continued, they'd still be awesome machines for racing at that level. But i think as 4 stroke developed, the marginal decision to go with em was made then. But i still love riding 2 strokes when i get the chance, hands down the most fun, zingy engine a bike could have.

[vetb882]

@ilikepie5720 :-) thats awesome, keep up the great work. no substitute for college education.

[asblackaswhitegets]

all about the rider



[vetb882]

@asblackaswhitegets true, but who do so many dumb guys think they will have an advantage if they get a heavier, less powerful per CC 4 stroke. dont be dumb folks, Pros race what they get paid to race even if its a giant pile of sh*t. And to make YOUR 4stroke like what the pros race, it'd cost you what it cost them, $200, 000.00 . =:-O

[Mxripper199]

thats a 250sx not 144

[f2496]

@Mxripper199 that is a 144. you can tell by how it soudns and also i would think that the owner knows what he is riding when he posts vids?

[Mxripper199]

@f2496 yeah bro, your right.

[walsertaler]

nice!

[sugavmig021]

hahahahahhaha 450 fags:P eat a dick

[supermotardmario]

i dont see it eating it ? how does that work ?

[bigboxingmike]

@supermotardmario eat a dick not eatING a dick....btw is dose :)