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  • 1 million British men died in WW1 so the idea of Britain still existed, Even more were wounded and damaged for life. None of them could vote and most were forced into Service.

    Women handed out White Feathers to shame them into war.

    Before women whine about their plight consider that of men as well please.

  • Women have little to complain about on this issue, men past and present have treated women a lot better than they have themselves. And even as feminism strips away slowly all that we are i still would go to their aid if they were in trouble, that's just me.

  • This video should be shown to every vacous, air-headed, want-to-be WAG in the United Kingdom. Everytime I hear a woman (mostly below 30) say "I don't care about politics--it's boring" I feel like throwing up, Emiline Pankhurst must be SPINNING in her grave! Whilst I would not condone some of the Suffragettes more extreme actions, I applaud their ideals and their resolve. Most young women today don't even bother to vote let alone fight for anything......

  • @oz1641 saw you comment on another video while doing research. basically the same obnoxious speech all over again. do u copy and paste into every suffragetter video? simply changing words in a desperate attempt to gain likes or seem intelligent. ur pathetic.

  • @1uc1nda Are you one of those who doesn't vote?! Have you ever had to fight for anything?! I have. The Suffragettes fought for the freedom of women, what have got against that??

  • @oz1641 actually i'm 14, so i can't vote. however, i have been a committed member of a party since I was 11, i regularly volunteer and i want to go into politics when i am older. of course I've had to fight, everyone has had to fight at some point! they just don't mention it because they know it's the same for everyone. i'm all for women's freedom, which is why although i disagree with many lifestyle choices some people make, i do not look down on them or judge them. and neither should you.

  • BRAVO and applause for the great video. It's well done!

    The status of women marks the freedom of a society at all...

    There's still much to do but... we can do it!

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  • excellent...thanx for this...

  • Very simplistic, but better than nothing!

  • I find it sad that some people can't accept that, in the end, we're all human. Whether man or woman, black or white or any other colour, gay or straight. Why can't we all just let it be?

  • It is forgotten that many men did not have the vote in the UK either. Some facts:-

    Reform Act 1832:- Resulted in 15% males having the vote.

    Representation of the People Act 1884:- Increased suffrage but still 40% of males did not have the vote.

    Representation of the People Act 1918:- Universal suffrage for males over 21 females over 30.

    Representation of the People Act 1928 - Votes for all over 21.

    In photos the policemen arresting the suffragettes did not have the vote either.

  • @richardsbrandonuca Keep in mind that men had to pay a price for that right to vote as well. They had to work horrible jobs and go to war. Something which the women were not obligated to do.

  • @richardsbrandonuca That's the main reason why the Labour party didn't go the whole hog behind it because they were for Universal suffrage and if they just supported middle class woman's fight it would just re-enforce the class system which they wanted to destroy.

  • @1Sladman1 Suffrage in the UK in popular discussion has generally been framed as an gender issue, which has some validity. But in reality it's early development was more related to the maintenance of the class structure.

    Some of the rules for instance were to stop live servants in Kenisington and Chelsea etc., who out numbered their masters, from voting in socialist MP's.

    Also in 1918 Democracy in a modern sense was still young. Sometimes using a 21st century lens distorts.

  • @richardsbrandonuca But as far as I know it wasnt only about the vote, it was also about the equality of men and women...you are right, that many men didnt have the vote either, but they were equal almost in every other area, while women for example couldnt get divorced until they proved that they were mistreated by their husbands several times!

  • @Ferbbie The Suffragettes were not about equality for all, they were a middle/upper class woman's advocacy group. The World was gender roled for purposes of division of labor and survival. Women suffered but so did men, eg long hours in back breaking jobs and being forced into war.

    Historically, oppression based on class far outstrips any based on gender.

  • My wife will be soon be doing her "life in Britain" test and your balanced and informative video has gone a long way in helping her understand the aims and tine scale of this movement.....so many thanks for your time and effort

  • Suffragettes! Load of screaming, hysterical Monkeys that knew nothing about anything. I'd have had their bloomers pulled down and their arses thrashed!

    It's men been killed in trenches in the Great War that gave the woman better respect and the vote, at least have the good grace to bloody well acknowledge it.

  • @Woodlander65

    you wrote: It's men been killed in trenches in the Great War

    and we all know what happens to women during war. did you know that in Germany alone over 2 million women were raped after WWII by the red army?

    and that they were the ones who had to build up their nations again from complete destruction since their men were missing, dead or injured.

    and i'm pretty sure that the fire bombings of European cities killed women, old people and children mostly.

    so don't mention war

  • @slothmayhem Yes, i am aware that many German women were raped and worse after WW2 by the red army, not a good moment at all for man, but they the russians were apart decisively from what the west and allies were doing, it doesnt make it right i know, and those poor souls did have to build up again afterwards as did everyone in Europe, but the point is the origins of woman's right's, and if there had of been no WW1 it wouldnt have happened at that time.

  • @slothmayhem. To suggest that women suffered more deaths and in general that men is obscene. Millions upon millions of young men and boys were forced into war by the elites and millions upon millions died. To disrespect the men who gave their lives for your freedom is hideous.

    The number of Russian men killed in WW1 and WW2 was so profound it effected the gene pool and the male/female ratio, because of the loss of so many men. In UK close to a million men died in WW1.

  • @richardsbrandonuca

    you need to learn to read. i never said more women died in the wars. in fact i even said they had to build up the cities after the war because the men were dead.

    I just protested the silly notion that men are primarily the ones who get fucked over by war because women and children get raped and killed whenever a war happens.

    there has been abortion clinics only for the raped women, after war. Go look what happened in the yugoslavia war not so long ago.

  • @richardsbrandonuca

    yeah it may have affected the gene pool, but i'm sure that enough of their comrades or even they themselves forced their genes on to a fair number of unwilling European women.

    Did you know that the memorial of the fallen red army soldier in Berlin was referred to "the tomb of the unknown rapist" by women of that era? Do you think that comes from nothing?

  • @slothmayhem I addressed the Red Army Rape Myth. There is no evidence at all that rape occurred in the numbers that certain groups assert for politi

    cal purposes. Go the primary sources on this matter. Show me reliable proof.

    When a country is over run by an invader clearly all are effected terribly. But men still die in vastly greater numbers (including Yogoslavia). In recent times in the West the suffering of women does not compare to that of men.

    US Viet.Nam:- 50,000 men 15 women

  • @ZimbaZumba

    i have witnesses. So what do you say against those women who lived in berlin at that time? No i don't have DNA analysis and other forensic proof, it's only the word of those witnesses. But thats not good enough is it? Political purpose? So finding the truth is about policy? It's a fact that women got raped in such numbers that the had to establish abortion clinics, do you get that?

    Are you shitting me, Vietnam?? Countless women got violated by the US army soldiers.

  • @slothmayhem

    re:- "It's a fact that women got raped in such numbers that the had to establish abortion clinics"

    After WWII abortion was illegal in both E. and W. Germany, except "in cases of grave danger to the life of the mother".

    (check Wiki Abortion in Germany)

  • @ZimbaZumba

    Krisztián Ungváry in his book "Die Schlacht um Budapest" describes the a change in jusrisdiction after the battle of Budapest in February 1945 where abortion was legalized.

    Law of Thüringen of August 29th 1945 legalized abortion by decree for zones which were occupied by the Red army in case of rape. (Gindulis, Edith: Der Konflikt um die Abtreibung p. 95, 2003)

    In Vienna there was an institution which performed abortions but i didn't find the source for you. Was on TV.

  • @ZimbaZumba

    "Go the primary sources on this matter. Show me reliable proof." I know two women personally who had to endure that, is that a primary enough source for you? What proof do you want, the DNA or what? And one told me that rape was happening everywhere. there are books to read about it, also a very primary source.

    But you just don't want to see the truth, for some reason you can't accept it, so i'll let you dwell in your ignorance.

  • @slothmayhem

    "..there are books to read about it, also a very primary source."

    There are books about Holocaust denial as well. Also 2 friends does not make 2 million, here say is really not the best of sources.

    And yes Germanic and Slavic people are easily identified by DNA and other medical markers, thats why they have different names.

  • @ZimbaZumba

    "And yes Germanic and Slavic people are easily identified by DNA" Not true, we are too close together. it's called Caucasian

    i read an article by a historian who said his telephone didn't stop ringing after his documentary was shown on TV. All the women wanted to get it off their chest. Don't you realize that this was a mass war crime? And that those estimations (and yes, they are estimations) are made by historians who know way better what was happening then than we?

  • @slothmayhem

    I stand by my point on DNA testing. You clearly have little understanding of this technology or racial groupings. (Caucasian is a VERY broad term)

    Concerning Budapest , it is in Hungry. We are talking of Germany.

    I find that some were raped plausuble, possibly in some numbers. But 2 million, no.

  • @ZimbaZumba

    "But 2 million, no."

    the occupation wasn't over in a few days but in a few years. your knowledge of history is non existent. also most rapists didn't rape once but several times. why? because they got away with it, simple as that.

    also i gave you the German law change, but yeah, just ignore it.

    so your point is, if slavic DNA increased in the German population it sure would have been noticed. LOL because there are so many wide spread and sophisticated gene tests running, yeah.

  • @slothmayhem To finish this conversation. Stop just reading sources that support you preconvieced ideas and be more critical of what you hear and read.

    Secondly the fact that that you try to minimise the appalling suffering of men relative to women in the USA and Western Europe, is shocking. Millions upon millions of men had their lives taken and even more were deadfully wounded in the 20th Century. They suffered for the very freedoms you enjoy. Shame on you.

  • @ZimbaZumba

    shame on me? no shame on people who belittle warcrimes out of a perverted gender solidarity.

    I NEVER minimized the suffering of men. I pointed out that the suffering of women was at least on an equal ground to that of men.

    And men suffer for the freedom of their families but the very same freedom has been taken from the families of their defeated enemies. Can't you see that in every war there are losers on both opponent's sides? ah forget it,of course you don't see it

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  • @slothmayhem

    In the theater of war the experiences of all are clearly dreadful, although more still men are killed.

    In the USA since the Civil War the female experience of war is primarily that of a major inconvenience, (lose of loved ones accepted). And with Selective Service as it is will continue to be.

    With the exception of the Blitz the experiences of British females is similar.

    Millions of US and British men were forced into war and died in that period.

  • @richardsbrandonuca

    i'm not interested in nationalities. and actually i'm also not interested in gender.

    But since you say that men are the ones who died more often then I have to tell you I'd rather die than be raped by SS wardens in concentration camps or by 15 Red Army soldiers at once and being left behind tortured and impregnated by the enemy.

    60 million people died during war 20-30 million were civil population. And those people didn't have a choice either, just like the soldiers.

  • @slothmayhem The continual dismal of the sacrifice the men of your country have made for you saddens me..

  • @richardsbrandonuca

    and your inability to acknowledge the magnitude of the atrocities comitted on women of my country saddens me. so be it.

  • @slothmayhem

    "... forced their genes on to a fair number of unwilling European women"

    If 2 million were raped this would be the case. If there was evidence of more Russian (ie Slavic) genes in the East Germans born after the war it would have been documented by now. It has not.

  • @richardsbrandonuca

    slavic genes? LOL as if the distinction between slavic and middle European was that big. Also they established abortion clinics after WW2 only for the women who got raped. I personally knew two women who had been raped by Russians. One of them told me that rape was so common that all the women knew about it. The Russian army has even been instructed to rape. God, there are dozens of books by witnesses!

    Really, denying the truth doesn't make it go away.

  • @slothmayhem There is no evidence at all that 2 million women were raped by the Red army, (go read the heated wiki discussion on it). All that is know that some were. You figure fails the common sense test on many levels. Its properganda.

    Concerning Dresden more men died in the 1st day of the lengthy Battle of the Somme.

  • @ZimbaZumba

    no evidence? thats right, so it never happened. hey probably the Holocaust didn't happen either. Rape was so common during the years after the war the children emulated the behavior in their play!

    And Dresden wasn't the only city destroyed so whats that argument? Ever heard of Japan?

  • Great video. Votes for women seems so natural now it is hard to believe that so much conflict and struggle was expended in gaining the vote. We owe the suffragettes a debt of thanks....and I am a man.

  • @woffus

    Then as a man you should know it was men been killed in trenches in the Great War that brought women the vote. Check out the Representation of the people Act 1918. It's men that made the women vote possible, and rightfully so.

  • what gets me even today is that woman call woman when we should be standing by eachother.suffragettes got force fed by woman,bloody stupid,as you might have guessed im a womans right person.

  • was this the period in time where the woman burnt her bra out of protest?

  • women didn't even have bras then lol

  • It says at the end,women had got the vote,but that was only women over 30 who were house holders.Not all women got the vote until 1928.

  • Beautiful clip. Thank you very much

  • Any bitch who wants to chain herself to MY railing and "SUFFER A JET MOVEMENT" has got my vote, mate!!!!

  • Women are easily manipulated. Their emotional creatures. Just look how they've been controlled the last 30 years. All the time thinking their in charge.

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  • oh dear women and their hormones eh?

  • bloody men! when are they ever going to learn? hell hath no fury like a woman scorned? lol

  • @pe4cefrog whenever some1 says this i imagine the bit in sweeny todd where all those blonde women all mob their captor

  • Thanks a lot for explaining the difference between the suffragettes and the suffragists. Your video helped me to start writing my essay. Thanks again.

  • What a great clip. Thanks heaps

  • thanks alot this is gonna help alot for my essay

  • lmao mine 2 (due 2marw)

  • Thanks for the video, I'm doing coursework on the suffragettes atm and this really helped. I also enjoyed your other videos.

  • very good film. I did a paper on the Suffragettes in History so i was interested :)

  • i like this movie and the melody....

    DC-survivor.....respect

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