technically downloading/ripping etc. is not stealing!. Stealing is physically removing something from somewhere without the owners permission and not informing them that you have taken what belongs to them. Pirating is sharing, sharing helps people make logical and informed choices about what they spend their money on. If the movie isn't good it's not going to earn any money is it... people won't even bother pirating it lol. Some people make more money on youtube than they do on film WHAT THE
@tigerwhite007 Downloading movies you down own a legit copy of is stealing. How isn't it? You're taking something you didn't pay for. Ripping movies is still technically illegal if you circumvent copy protections in the process, but I don't think the MPAA really gives a shit if you're not redistributing or uploading the content to other places. The lesson to take away from this is - just buy a legit copy. Make a backup for yourself. Rip it to another format. Don't redistribute.
"Don't fuckin' tell me what I would and wouldn't do! I am drunk at 2pm. In my underwear. Alone. About to watch girls get tortured to death by paying customers in an underground bunker. And you're telling me I wouldn't nick a fuckin' handbag!? You don't know me at all!"
Who the fuck cares about the laws against downloading. I hate these greedy fucking entertainment industries already making money in some days enough for a lifetime full of luxury, yet these fuckers are complaining about us poor consumers downloading some movies... I already feel that I show enough support for the movie industry by going to the cinema sometimes..........
Under certain circumstances I would steal a car. Like if I woke up next to five dead bodies, a bloody knife in hand, the police were coming, and I had no idea what happened the night before. but I digress, how is piracy stealing??? to steal something don't you have to take it away from someone else? By definition it would be copying not stealing.
Imagine if the caveman who first made a cave painting of a mammoth banned all other cavemen from drawing a mammoth.
FUCK THE MPAA & RIAA ALL THEM BASTERDS !!!! THEY JUST WANT TO CONTROL THE WHOLE INTERNET & SUE EVERYBODY TO GET MORE MONE THEY ARE THE DEVIL = GREED ! They were hacked b4 & it will happen again ! This is what happens when you try to take peoples freedom away . Piracy is a excuse to spy & log everything people are doing they think they are above the law = MPAA especially is a bunch of money sucking lawyers !
@assassinguy - Entertainment Company associated with the MPAA = NO BUY ! NOT LIKE I DO anymore ANYWAYS ! FUC N Annoying MPAA+FBI spam on DvDs+CINAVIA IS WEAK :) PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP = BOYCOTT-MOVIE THEATERS-DvDs ! MPAA JUST RAPES ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY'S, WITH FAILURE+LIES FOR DECADES ! Shows how stupid the ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY'S REALLY ARE. THEY DON'T SEE THIS ,lol THEY MPAA CONTROLS THEM LIKE PUPPETS TO GET RICH (SAD) THEY WILL NEVER WIN :) MPAA = ARE WEAK SPAM ARTISTS ! Nothing More :)
Russian Gangstas pirate films so I wish the MPAA would tell them they wouldn't steal a car. So they could laugh in their faces. Watch this Pirated clip of X-Men First Class: /watch?v=W6xy23DymHg (Azazel teleports with Beasts)
A lot of people seem to be thinking about this the wrong way. There's a lot of profit to be had in this internet world of pirates, but the music, movies, and copyright industries are too stubborn to embrace it! They could take use of the bittorrent protocol and sell movies on the internet themselves! It would cost practically nothing to them (no boxing/DVD/Shipping costs), and movies could therefore pass the savings onto the individual, resulting in more sales.
Not to mention they would cut down on all that money spent to combat piracy. Hell, the fact that they would rather leave their consumers with the short end of the stick by hampering them with complex processes to make sure they're not a pirate (see the infamous "Spore 3 Installations" or any game that requires you to enter CD keys, validate online, etc...) shows their character. They're making pirates more attractive because those are all stripped out in cracked games/movies, etcetera.
Just because they get tons of money doesn't give us the right to steal their products. The car industry makes tons of money every year too, if there was a car really easy to steal, as easy as downloading a video/program/music, would you steal it?
And piracy doesn't affect only big companies. The smaller ones are the ones that suffer the most.
It's funny when people say that piracy isn't theft. Too bad it's in the law. If I said that break and entering isn't a crime, or an invasion, isn't doesn't suddenly remove it from the law. Just deal with the fact that copyright is a law and piracy has consequences, as do all crimes.
You guys don't get it at all. First of all, revenue is NOT profit. It's the money that comes in from a film's release. The PROFIT is what's leftover after you subtract all the costs FROM the revenue. Second, none of you MAKE these damn things. If you did, you'd be very aggravated that people like US are effectively denying them profits needed to stay in business. Third, the more theft is going on in an industry, the more likely it is that workers will LEAVE that industry. Profits help industry
theft is when you steal something from someone. theyre not losing anything physical when someone downloads their movie, nor are they losing profits. most pirates are pirates because thats their alternative to going without. everyone i know who has extra money buys movies. poor people who are computer savvy have to get more creative and pirate movies. if i couldnt buy something in the first place, how are they losing money on me pirating as opposed to not buying anything at all?
@Thedrizzle404 I know pirates who are NOT poor. They torrent stuff just to avoid paying for it. There is NO WAY to ensure it's just the poor that pirate the stuff. You allow the poor to steal and EVERYONE will eventually steal. That's why laws say you can't.
And as I said, if you made the stuff and didn't turn a profit, got your studio shut down as a result, and then found out it was because of piracy, you'd be PRETTY DAMN PISSED.
People with knowledge of economics understand why piracy is bad.
people with knowledge of economics know piracy is good. its a fail safe for monopoly and oligopoly. even for greedy corporations, piracy is good because it increases their exposure to their audience. word of mouth is the most powerful tool on the market. take youtube for example. its made up of regular people sharing their ideas. i find lots of songs i love on here that i wouldnt have even heard of otherwise. but its free to listen to, so by your logic, its costing the artist.
@Sonicisbadazz i understand economics and piracy is not bad it is only a minor anoyance for the richist of capialists (the record labels, fillm/tv producers...), the damage to the artist is neglagable compaired to that of the lables leaching off them most of the musicians i know get 70% of there (atistic) income from live venue and the rest for selling LPs/CDs at the live venue piracy will not change that ever it only hurts the people feeding off the artist
@HHaddow990 With respect, how many CEOs do you know? Or owners of record labels or any other entertainment labels?
"Piracy will keep an estimated $3.2 billion in revenue this year"
That's a quote from a PSU article about the gaming industry in the 90s, and that's when gamers were MUCH less plentiful. Yeah, I can see why that'd be a "minor annoyance" It's only more than most CEOs make in a year, and it's only a little more than half of DONALD TRUMP'S fortune
@Sonicisbadazz i admit i dont know any ceos or compny directors but i was refering to comapys in genaral and how they feed off artists in actual fact this 3.2 bilion dosnt exist as many prates wouldn't/can't by all the things they pirate (ie a pirate downloads 25 £40 games this month thats £1000 (~1400 USD) in a month unless your rich theres no way you can afoard that) i doubt if they managed to stop piracy they would reclaim more that 0.01% or this 'revenue'
@HHaddow990 Your choice of words--"feed off the artist"--demonstrates that you're looking at this from the severely biased "Corporations are greedy money-sucking vampires" view that permeates almost everyone who supports piracy. I'm not going to say there isn't some truth--or at least logic--to that idea, but it's an overly simplified take on a complicated issue.
Let me repeat something: that "revenue" isn't "profit." The "revenue" lost includes the costs it made to make the thing in the...(TBC)
@HHaddow990 ...first place. The majority of entertainment doesn't actually turn a profit at all, and the successes have to carry EVERY one of the failures.
When we pirate, they suffer greater costs. And corporations--unlike many artists--have the resources to market the products. You take them out of the equation, and their exposure is LESS than it was before. And if the artists don't actually need their help, they can always quit working for them and support themselves. And if the costs...(TBC)
@HHaddow990 ...get too high, the profits become non-existent and they won't bother to work with the artists anymore. Call me crazy, but that sounds like something that affects more than just those that "feed off the artist.
And most of those "profits" don't even get to go into people's pockets because it all has to be poured back into the business for it to continue to function and produce entertainment. That's not to say CEOs don't make good money, but it's not as large as everyone claims.
Only problem is, Blockbuster: out of business. Clearly, piracy DID affect the industry. Admittedly, Netflix, iTunes, etc probably had more to do with its downfall, but still...
What is the purpose of the MPAA? Why is it still here? Maybe they are "cracking down" on criminals to show that they are still useful in the industry.
Best thing is all that revenue is about 20% tax. Thats about 5 billion more being spent on weapons of mass destruction and the murdering of innocent people all over the world. DOWNLOAD AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOLKS.
WAR. IS. A. CRIME. I'll tell you who the real criminals are, and it isn't the downloaders. You'll pay the price for crime governments of the world. You always do in the end. Download films, music games, everything people. Each one you do you're saving some innocent kid.
@SVWillmer Although i do like downloading and i am a active pirate, War is a nessecary part of life and nuclear arms are nessecary for the continuance of a free and democratic society. You should stop spewing you liberal propaganda on random videos.
So you belive that instruments of death and mass destruction are the only way to maintain freedom and democracy... I think the those of us like Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Buddha, Jesus etc, all who have progressed democracy and freedom would disagree with you.
Weapons are violence.... violence and peace don't go together, think about it.
booo fuckin ooo, i feel so sad about the record and movie companies, they are so poor, and they make no profit at all beacause we're downloading their contents... it's kinda making fun of the average joe who has to work his ass off to get 1500,2000 dolars a month, and this bitches make more than that in one minute.
Stealing is the wrong term. It's more similar to driving without a license. You haven't purchased the license to watch the movie or play games or install your operating system, etc
@richardmaudsley77 Nah, piracy has the better idea. Someone makes an identical copy of the car and gives it away to you for free. Everyone wins, even the guy who paid for the original since he got to keep it.
@richardmaudsley77 Nah, piracy has the better idea. Someone makes an identical copy of the car and gives it away to you for free. Everyone wins, even the guy who paid for the original since he got to keep it.
@Gtactics7 In case you are not being sarcastic, downloading a program by torrent or other P2P is legal, UNLESS! you download non-free software (you know, like MS Office), file sharing is legal, but sharing licensed software and the like is not (is complicated you know, cuz it is still a bunch of air).
Instant Destruction of Human Civilization! Just Add Money!!
What's the point of having art when there's money around? All that does is kill the art. Do I really have to be exiled from my entire culture because I'm not a zillionaire with 27 hours of free time a day?
I say we just give up on making art. We make money. That's what humans do, now. We have no culture or civilization apart from money. What a wonderful existance.
if i could i would download a lamborghini lol i like to download movies or music for free and i still do it even if they put me in jail i dont care as long as i and my friends or my family have a good time watching a good movie its okay ! so this commercials are stupid no one cares im downloading right now what u gona do about it !
"This is what buying DVDs is like" and has a shot with people in a well lit room in a large lounge room looking like they are literally having the time of their lives watching a DVD, and then it goes
"This is what happens when you download" and it has a shot of a darkened room with a pasty nerd in a hoodie going insane as he stares at a loading bar. Is it anywhere? i find it hilarious.
You are actually stealing from me, a law abiding citizen! As you get movies for free, I have to pay for them because I want to do the right thing. If no one did the right thing, we would not have movies at all, if you make a great movie, a book or anything else, you are most welcome to give it away for free, make it open source and don't put ads on it, but these are professionals, which is why their movies are so good, they do this as their job, they need to get paid, would you do a job for 0$/h
@venuecam How does the amount of money you make from something change anything. How many billion does Apple make of I-Phones, do you steal them too. What about food? I don't care about how much the film industry makes, I am not going to steal from them. If you do, well do it, but you should not think that it is justified because of the amount of money they make.
Does Apple pay money 2 make each individual iPhone? Yes. Does someone pay 2 produce a type of food that other people consume? Yes. Does the entertainment industry pay to create a new file everytime each person downloads a song or a film etc? No. It costs $0.00 2 allow digitial file 2 be downloaded. That and you never OWN someone elses music or movie. It's just a license to view. This business model is dead :D
Geez they make enough money as it is......so u lose a few millions.....you already have billions....how much money do u need? Pure GREED is what it is
Not even that. This would be more like "Putting your own quarter in the machine to xerox someone else's photo they let you borrow of someone is kidnapping".
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 What, what the hell is the logic behind that, that makes absolutely no sense, if you pirate something, you cost the developer whatever amount of money the item cost, it's stealing, If you take a photo of someone, that isn't a crime and it doesn't harm them.
@ATLMember WRONG. When you pirate something you are stealing non-existent profit because if you didn't download, there would be no profit generated at all.
By buying a CD, you are not authorized to rip and burn OR EVEN LEND IT TO FRIENDS. Making a replica of the musics is not "stealing" content as it is, like a photo of the Mona Lisa painting is not considered theft. Although you are "replicating" the art anyway.
@bf2lover42 Again, that's stupid, you are copying a product that costs money to develop, you are cheating a developer out of the money they would have earned if you had purchased the product. You are STEALING, call it what you want, at the end of the day you cost the developer a lot of money by pirating software. This shouldn't be hard to understand...
@ATLMember You are making it hard to understand. Let's imagine Photoshop. How many actually bought it? If it wasn't available for download in the first place, almost nobody outside the professional/academic use would have bought it anyway.
Therefore, Adobe lost almost no money because normally professionals and students have to buy such software, and the other users would have never shelled out that kind of money.
So, if you snap a photo of someone it costs you nothing, but if you then make a copy of that photo on your comp it costs you whatever the photo costs?
Logic fail! The fact is most people who download movies/games/etc wouldn't have bought the same item if they couldn't have downloaded it. Meaning that if they hadn't pirated it then the developers wouldn't have profited anyway, and since they lose nothing from a digital copy, everyone wins.
harming THEIR industry would be the proper spelling.
Secondly, whereas big Hollywood is still reaping in money despite illegal downloads, it's the small production companies, new actors, and indie filmmakers you're hurting. James Cameron made enough money off Avatar regardless of piracy but Andrew Bujalski's films being pirated truly hurts his chances of becoming a more successful director. dirtyboy830 : you're racist, shut up.
I wouldn't steal a car...... but i would make an identical copy of it for my own use and i would allow my friends to make another copy for them,so we could all have cars.....
I would have to say that the Zeitgeist Movement (plug!) understands.
A Pirate is not a bad person. They appreciate the artistic work by acquiring it and enjoying it. I'm not talking about the pirates who SELL the material however. Those guys give pirates a bad name.
P.S. --- Fuck Capitalism: the cancer of this world.
Why should we continue to make the wealthy people richer? Most of the wealthy don't share their fortune to those who need it. Instead use it to purchase useless things that they don't need...
Unfortunately, most of us may never have the chance to make thousands. And I'm sure those of us who do make it, would share it with the world to make it a better place. Until then, we will share our content.
@crustproductions If you want to know who is really hurting movie content providers, just look to the studios themselves. Read up on Hollywood Accounting (there's a nice wikipedia article describing it). Even the most successful movies don't turn a profit because of it. For example, the fifth Harry Potter movie is still $167M in the red, regardless of the fact that it took in $932M worldwide. Compare that $167M to the film's total production budget of $150M, and see if that somehow makes sense.
The GAO report on copyright infringement also found that piracy couldn't be quantified. In other words, the research of the Government actually doesn't think that piracy is wrong, but that in some industries it actually help! Imagine the RIAA, MPAA, ASCAP, or BMI admitting to that...
Right afterwards, I have an onion and the smallest violin to sell you.
@lol5882 i don't get why they think that downloading something is equivalent to stealing a car. no one gets hurt and the original item doesn't disappear. if you steal a car the original owner doesn't have the car anymore. if you download a movie you are not taking anything away from anybody.
The Jews who run the MPAA/RIAA just want to control the content. It has nothing to do with profit. This isn't greedy corporations. If that was true they would have bought Napster in the beginning. This way they would have been able to garner a monopoly over the file sharing industry and cash in big time on the file sharing craze. But we all know that isn't what happened. They want to control what content we have access to. They can't do that if the content is open as in a file sharing model.
The convenient excuse for why the movie business seems to be failing rather than deal with the fact that, lately, the movies are sucking harder than my Miele.
Your argument doesn't actually hold water. Avatar has made close to 350B dollars. It's "infringed" upon. This entire idea that downloading is stealing is the thing we have to work to fight against.
If you want more information, why not search the GAO report that is saying that piracy isn't found to really hurt the industry but actually help it?
"This entire idea that downloading is stealing..."
Technically if you haven't paid for a license to have the movie in your possession to whomever owns the copyright, it's stealing.
That said, IMO, piracy as a problem is WAY overblown.
The bigger problem is that Hollywood is hemorrhaging money making rehashes, sequels and movies based on existing properties (comic books, video games, etc.) while spending hundreds of millions of dollars for each project.
I can have a movie in my possession if I record it from TV to my DVR. Is that "stealing?" Of course, you'll say, "But you pay for the access through cable or watching ads." Well, don't I pay for my ISP?
Logic has failed the MPAA and RIAA - just like with VCRs and recordable audio tapes in the 80's. They are a bunch of crybabies who always seem to be 3 steps behind.
"I can have a movie in my possession if I record it from TV to my DVR. Is that "stealing?" Of course, you'll say, "But you pay for the access through cable or watching ads." Well, don't I pay for my ISP?"
In that case, the TV network was authorized to provide that content to you and the DVR is treated like the VCR regarding fair use. The ISP only provides a means to access, whether it's legal or not is dependent on where you go to.
But, I still think the industry is using piracy as an excuse for their own failings at providing something the customer can truly believe is good value for the money.
You can only go so far with music, movies and TV shows that only reflect trends and cater to the lowest common denominator rather than take good creative risk. Sooner or later, everyone will rightfully feel that it's all the same and, therefore, not worth paying for.
And, you're correct that the MPAA and the RIAA are way behind regarding technology; in addition to providing content, their methods of delivery is related to their ability to earn revenue.
The problem is that the industry appears to be perverse in their risk aversion; adapting to a new way of delivery risks what is "tried and true," even if the "tried and true" way is no longer valid. They refuse to evolve, even if doing so means they become extinct.
1. They're playing it too safe by going with what they think will satisfy the lowest common denominator and spending a lot of money to make sure the movie has a high level of polish; a highly polished turd of a film. Successful films, big budget and low budget, generally take CREATIVE RISKS instead of trying to satisfy everyone.
2. With typical budgets over $100 million now, the business is not cost effective.
However, as Hollywood people generally have very BIG but very FRAGILE egos, they do not want to confront the fact they, themselves, are responsible for the business tanking as it is; there is no leadership to take risks and draw the line and say "enough is enough" in regards to the financial abuses in the business.
So, to avoid the ugly reality, they place blame elsewhere: piracy and other forms of entertainment.
if they could try and make buying a movie or album as convenient as downloading one then they might have a chance... but, until then, share for life i say !! :-)
Seriously? Just because it might not harm the industry as a whole very much doesn't mean that it doesn't harm certain individuals or video rental stores. And no matter what way you look at it, it's still wrong and it's still illegal.
@EllipsisStudios Illegal and wrong are not necessarily synonomous, for example currently under the DMCA it is illegal to circumvent DRM to copy CDs and movies. Is it wrong? If I want to back up my legally acquired media then I will feel no remorse.
@travelsonic Well, you DO have a point there... I guess one of the major issues in this argument is that one side keeps arguing about what is legal and illegal, while the other side says it doesn't matter because what they say is illegal isn't actually wrong. It's confusing.
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All this comes down to is people who already have piles of money screwing honest people in order to make more piles of money.
How does ripping, copying or circumventing a copy protection hurt a film studios profits significantly if the content is not being redistributed?
It's not really a crime at all. It's a poorly written law that is used to screw people who don't seek to pirate anything.
lethalweapon129 1 month ago
The DMCA should be amended to say you can do whatever you want with a movie, but that redistributing it in any way should be treated like theft.
lethalweapon129 1 month ago
technically downloading/ripping etc. is not stealing!. Stealing is physically removing something from somewhere without the owners permission and not informing them that you have taken what belongs to them. Pirating is sharing, sharing helps people make logical and informed choices about what they spend their money on. If the movie isn't good it's not going to earn any money is it... people won't even bother pirating it lol. Some people make more money on youtube than they do on film WHAT THE
tigerwhite007 1 month ago
@tigerwhite007 Downloading movies you down own a legit copy of is stealing. How isn't it? You're taking something you didn't pay for. Ripping movies is still technically illegal if you circumvent copy protections in the process, but I don't think the MPAA really gives a shit if you're not redistributing or uploading the content to other places. The lesson to take away from this is - just buy a legit copy. Make a backup for yourself. Rip it to another format. Don't redistribute.
lethalweapon129 1 month ago
fuck you!
lulz0voz0sintetizada 2 months ago
@Dym88 hello , i have some stupid question , what is name of that song ? :) :D
m2tt7 3 months ago
AGAINST THE LAW ?! I AM THE LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW !!!!!!!!!
Jetli2013 3 months ago
"you wouldn't steal a handbag"
"Don't fuckin' tell me what I would and wouldn't do! I am drunk at 2pm. In my underwear. Alone. About to watch girls get tortured to death by paying customers in an underground bunker. And you're telling me I wouldn't nick a fuckin' handbag!? You don't know me at all!"
Gotta love Ed Byrne :)
MrClickity 4 months ago
Imagine a world with piracy instead of thievery.
Your car is stolen - Its gone.
Your car is pirated - Its still there, but someone has made a copy of it.
EveOracle 4 months ago
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Who the fuck cares about the laws against downloading. I hate these greedy fucking entertainment industries already making money in some days enough for a lifetime full of luxury, yet these fuckers are complaining about us poor consumers downloading some movies... I already feel that I show enough support for the movie industry by going to the cinema sometimes..........
Cl0akrat 4 months ago
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Cl0akrat 4 months ago
Under certain circumstances I would steal a car. Like if I woke up next to five dead bodies, a bloody knife in hand, the police were coming, and I had no idea what happened the night before. but I digress, how is piracy stealing??? to steal something don't you have to take it away from someone else? By definition it would be copying not stealing.
Imagine if the caveman who first made a cave painting of a mammoth banned all other cavemen from drawing a mammoth.
mcchriskicksass 4 months ago
i would download a car, and a pizza, and often download stuff that the mpaa/riaa doesnt make
monkyyy0 5 months ago 2
I wish I could copy a car :(
bigpoppa1234 5 months ago 2
Fuck the RIAA, I'd download a car if I could.
MrRec6 5 months ago
FUCK THE MPAA & RIAA ALL THEM BASTERDS !!!! THEY JUST WANT TO CONTROL THE WHOLE INTERNET & SUE EVERYBODY TO GET MORE MONE THEY ARE THE DEVIL = GREED ! They were hacked b4 & it will happen again ! This is what happens when you try to take peoples freedom away . Piracy is a excuse to spy & log everything people are doing they think they are above the law = MPAA especially is a bunch of money sucking lawyers !
2DIE4U2 6 months ago
@2DIE4U2 citations needed
assassinguy 4 months ago
@assassinguy - Entertainment Company associated with the MPAA = NO BUY ! NOT LIKE I DO anymore ANYWAYS ! FUC N Annoying MPAA+FBI spam on DvDs+CINAVIA IS WEAK :) PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP = BOYCOTT-MOVIE THEATERS-DvDs ! MPAA JUST RAPES ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY'S, WITH FAILURE+LIES FOR DECADES ! Shows how stupid the ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY'S REALLY ARE. THEY DON'T SEE THIS ,lol THEY MPAA CONTROLS THEM LIKE PUPPETS TO GET RICH (SAD) THEY WILL NEVER WIN :) MPAA = ARE WEAK SPAM ARTISTS ! Nothing More :)
2DIE4U2 4 months ago
Eh heh......I have a DVD of Stewie griffin:The untold story and this came up.
MaddaChick07 6 months ago
If I ever tape a pirated film, I would paste the end of it in the middle, after the question is asked.
DualcastBahamut 6 months ago
I don't really have any problems with people downloading movies, but anybody that tries to sell/make money off of pirated movies can just go to hell
TheRoyalCucumber 6 months ago
Ohhhh who do you think you can fool with this?
I read every day in the news about the new house they bought some people from Holywood... A house of about $15million....
On the other hand I can't buy even a car for myself...
Art shouldn't be commercialized...
KazamaShin89 7 months ago
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR
2dawolf 7 months ago
Russian Gangstas pirate films so I wish the MPAA would tell them they wouldn't steal a car. So they could laugh in their faces. Watch this Pirated clip of X-Men First Class: /watch?v=W6xy23DymHg (Azazel teleports with Beasts)
JamaicanDubWorldwide 7 months ago
this reminds me of what darwin said on the amazing world of gumball.
remixchild 7 months ago
Fuck the MPAA
44kittie 7 months ago
their, not "there"
JmaJeremy514 7 months ago
The mpaa looses all of their legitimacy to be because their symbol looks like the death star. Coincidence? I think not.
MrOliver250 8 months ago
But is that 10% because of more sales or because of jacking up prices? This correction really only gives some of the fact and ignores all the others.
TronZEROPi 8 months ago
I woudn't steal a car...but if I could have an functionally identical copy of someone else's car...
BATCHARRO 8 months ago 12
yes Piracy never die
ongchorcool 9 months ago
I like the fact that you've had to copy a DVD to upload this.
frankieboyleinnit 9 months ago 2
A lot of people seem to be thinking about this the wrong way. There's a lot of profit to be had in this internet world of pirates, but the music, movies, and copyright industries are too stubborn to embrace it! They could take use of the bittorrent protocol and sell movies on the internet themselves! It would cost practically nothing to them (no boxing/DVD/Shipping costs), and movies could therefore pass the savings onto the individual, resulting in more sales.
RiverKnyle 9 months ago
Not to mention they would cut down on all that money spent to combat piracy. Hell, the fact that they would rather leave their consumers with the short end of the stick by hampering them with complex processes to make sure they're not a pirate (see the infamous "Spore 3 Installations" or any game that requires you to enter CD keys, validate online, etc...) shows their character. They're making pirates more attractive because those are all stripped out in cracked games/movies, etcetera.
RiverKnyle 9 months ago
You spelled "their" incorrectly.
screwthis441 9 months ago
I would download a car if I could...
putefnask 9 months ago 3
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stepbystep29 9 months ago
if you go outside the usa you find piracy sold everywhere
then the movies they are showing have an FBI warning on them
i laugh my ass off when i see that hahaha the irony is so hilarious
MrTheBeast 9 months ago
Steam for the new reseller of every type of media.
DarkKobra0202 10 months ago
Just because they get tons of money doesn't give us the right to steal their products. The car industry makes tons of money every year too, if there was a car really easy to steal, as easy as downloading a video/program/music, would you steal it?
And piracy doesn't affect only big companies. The smaller ones are the ones that suffer the most.
Raphavok 10 months ago
@Raphavok i wouldn't steal the car. i would make an exact copy of that car, thats not stealing.
blublahblah 10 months ago 2
It's funny when people say that piracy isn't theft. Too bad it's in the law. If I said that break and entering isn't a crime, or an invasion, isn't doesn't suddenly remove it from the law. Just deal with the fact that copyright is a law and piracy has consequences, as do all crimes.
Intoxicatious 10 months ago
You guys don't get it at all. First of all, revenue is NOT profit. It's the money that comes in from a film's release. The PROFIT is what's leftover after you subtract all the costs FROM the revenue. Second, none of you MAKE these damn things. If you did, you'd be very aggravated that people like US are effectively denying them profits needed to stay in business. Third, the more theft is going on in an industry, the more likely it is that workers will LEAVE that industry. Profits help industry
Sonicisbadazz 11 months ago
@Sonicisbadazz
theft is when you steal something from someone. theyre not losing anything physical when someone downloads their movie, nor are they losing profits. most pirates are pirates because thats their alternative to going without. everyone i know who has extra money buys movies. poor people who are computer savvy have to get more creative and pirate movies. if i couldnt buy something in the first place, how are they losing money on me pirating as opposed to not buying anything at all?
Thedrizzle404 10 months ago
@Thedrizzle404 I know pirates who are NOT poor. They torrent stuff just to avoid paying for it. There is NO WAY to ensure it's just the poor that pirate the stuff. You allow the poor to steal and EVERYONE will eventually steal. That's why laws say you can't.
And as I said, if you made the stuff and didn't turn a profit, got your studio shut down as a result, and then found out it was because of piracy, you'd be PRETTY DAMN PISSED.
People with knowledge of economics understand why piracy is bad.
Sonicisbadazz 10 months ago
@Sonicisbadazz
people with knowledge of economics know piracy is good. its a fail safe for monopoly and oligopoly. even for greedy corporations, piracy is good because it increases their exposure to their audience. word of mouth is the most powerful tool on the market. take youtube for example. its made up of regular people sharing their ideas. i find lots of songs i love on here that i wouldnt have even heard of otherwise. but its free to listen to, so by your logic, its costing the artist.
Thedrizzle404 10 months ago
@Sonicisbadazz i understand economics and piracy is not bad it is only a minor anoyance for the richist of capialists (the record labels, fillm/tv producers...), the damage to the artist is neglagable compaired to that of the lables leaching off them most of the musicians i know get 70% of there (atistic) income from live venue and the rest for selling LPs/CDs at the live venue piracy will not change that ever it only hurts the people feeding off the artist
HHaddow990 10 months ago
@HHaddow990 With respect, how many CEOs do you know? Or owners of record labels or any other entertainment labels?
"Piracy will keep an estimated $3.2 billion in revenue this year"
That's a quote from a PSU article about the gaming industry in the 90s, and that's when gamers were MUCH less plentiful. Yeah, I can see why that'd be a "minor annoyance" It's only more than most CEOs make in a year, and it's only a little more than half of DONALD TRUMP'S fortune
IMO that's "dream world" logic at best
Sonicisbadazz 10 months ago
@Sonicisbadazz i admit i dont know any ceos or compny directors but i was refering to comapys in genaral and how they feed off artists in actual fact this 3.2 bilion dosnt exist as many prates wouldn't/can't by all the things they pirate (ie a pirate downloads 25 £40 games this month thats £1000 (~1400 USD) in a month unless your rich theres no way you can afoard that) i doubt if they managed to stop piracy they would reclaim more that 0.01% or this 'revenue'
HHaddow990 10 months ago
@HHaddow990 Your choice of words--"feed off the artist"--demonstrates that you're looking at this from the severely biased "Corporations are greedy money-sucking vampires" view that permeates almost everyone who supports piracy. I'm not going to say there isn't some truth--or at least logic--to that idea, but it's an overly simplified take on a complicated issue.
Let me repeat something: that "revenue" isn't "profit." The "revenue" lost includes the costs it made to make the thing in the...(TBC)
Sonicisbadazz 10 months ago
@HHaddow990 ...first place. The majority of entertainment doesn't actually turn a profit at all, and the successes have to carry EVERY one of the failures.
When we pirate, they suffer greater costs. And corporations--unlike many artists--have the resources to market the products. You take them out of the equation, and their exposure is LESS than it was before. And if the artists don't actually need their help, they can always quit working for them and support themselves. And if the costs...(TBC)
Sonicisbadazz 10 months ago
@HHaddow990 ...get too high, the profits become non-existent and they won't bother to work with the artists anymore. Call me crazy, but that sounds like something that affects more than just those that "feed off the artist.
And most of those "profits" don't even get to go into people's pockets because it all has to be poured back into the business for it to continue to function and produce entertainment. That's not to say CEOs don't make good money, but it's not as large as everyone claims.
Sonicisbadazz 10 months ago
I kidnapped my dog by taking a picture of it, apparently.
Pokemonfanzo 11 months ago
Only problem is, Blockbuster: out of business. Clearly, piracy DID affect the industry. Admittedly, Netflix, iTunes, etc probably had more to do with its downfall, but still...
andyrumschlag 11 months ago
@andyrumschlag and ondemand
1qazwsx333333 11 months ago
i hate me 100 jews
a10fjet 1 year ago
What is the purpose of the MPAA? Why is it still here? Maybe they are "cracking down" on criminals to show that they are still useful in the industry.
jeabo0adhd 1 year ago
Best thing is all that revenue is about 20% tax. Thats about 5 billion more being spent on weapons of mass destruction and the murdering of innocent people all over the world. DOWNLOAD AS MUCH AS YOU CAN FOLKS.
WAR. IS. A. CRIME. I'll tell you who the real criminals are, and it isn't the downloaders. You'll pay the price for crime governments of the world. You always do in the end. Download films, music games, everything people. Each one you do you're saving some innocent kid.
SVWillmer 1 year ago
@SVWillmer Although i do like downloading and i am a active pirate, War is a nessecary part of life and nuclear arms are nessecary for the continuance of a free and democratic society. You should stop spewing you liberal propaganda on random videos.
DarkAnthrox1 1 year ago
@DarkAnthrox1
So you belive that instruments of death and mass destruction are the only way to maintain freedom and democracy... I think the those of us like Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Buddha, Jesus etc, all who have progressed democracy and freedom would disagree with you.
Weapons are violence.... violence and peace don't go together, think about it.
SVWillmer 1 year ago
@SVWillmer There's the old saying "If one wishes for peace, one must prepare for war". You've only proved that you're a liberal.
Hotstarthefaggot 11 months ago
@Hotstarthefaggot
That quote is rhetoric, Ghandi, Martin Luther Junior to name a few falsify that quote.
SVWillmer 11 months ago
if only you could spell..
dandined 1 year ago
MPAA should walk a plank
NeedForMadnessSVK 1 year ago
How much money do these fucking greedy rich cunts need fuck them i download all your movies and rip your shit for free long live thepiratebay
BLO383 1 year ago
I wouldn't steal a car. But if I could, I'd sure as hell download one.
PunkJokerit 1 year ago
what website can you download free movies?
jenn1ifer 1 year ago
oh the irony!
This video talk about piracy,but its music says the opposite
lolguy30 1 year ago
"You wouldn't shit in a urinal"
bf2lover42 1 year ago
@bf2lover42
"fuck you, I would if I could"
imcracka1 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of this song? Ironically, I wish to download it.
KillianNZ 1 year ago 4
MUSIC NAME PLS? I fcking need it!!!
ace0931 1 year ago
Yet again some dumb ass does not know the difference between their and there.
thegeneral123 1 year ago 10
@thegeneral123 Thank you! i was gonna comment the same thing. although i do agree with their overall point.
shizenyasuya 1 year ago
booo fuckin ooo, i feel so sad about the record and movie companies, they are so poor, and they make no profit at all beacause we're downloading their contents... it's kinda making fun of the average joe who has to work his ass off to get 1500,2000 dolars a month, and this bitches make more than that in one minute.
IamJohnyD 1 year ago
my friend bought a pirated dvd & it had this ad on there xD!!!
DXFan1269 1 year ago
If downloading a movie is the same as stealing it out of a store, then every MP3, Wallpaper, Picture, and everything in between on my PC is stolen.
This ad was created when some rich person went broke one month because his wife spent all their money, most likely.
Knightphall 1 year ago
Stealing is the wrong term. It's more similar to driving without a license. You haven't purchased the license to watch the movie or play games or install your operating system, etc
EnsignN7 1 year ago
@EnsignN7
Forget metaphors. It's getting it without paying for it. It doesn't cost them anything for you having it, but they don't get anything from you.
Triskitout 1 year ago
YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR. No. But I would download one.
Panzervagon 1 year ago 44
@Panzervagon I'd sure as fuck steal a car if I could get away with it & get to keep it, dunno about you.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
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@richardmaudsley77 Nah, piracy has the better idea. Someone makes an identical copy of the car and gives it away to you for free. Everyone wins, even the guy who paid for the original since he got to keep it.
259 1 year ago
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@richardmaudsley77 Nah, piracy has the better idea. Someone makes an identical copy of the car and gives it away to you for free. Everyone wins, even the guy who paid for the original since he got to keep it.
259 1 year ago
By definition, you cannot steal items that do not have substance, like pirated films.
At most, pirates are infringers. RIAA needs a dictionary.
dalevans1 1 year ago 3
Hey i want to dwnload a program. if i do it on torrents is it illegal i want to know b4 i try so i dont get in trouble
Gtactics7 1 year ago
@Gtactics7 In case you are not being sarcastic, downloading a program by torrent or other P2P is legal, UNLESS! you download non-free software (you know, like MS Office), file sharing is legal, but sharing licensed software and the like is not (is complicated you know, cuz it is still a bunch of air).
CoolTrainerSoma 1 year ago
Instant Destruction of Human Civilization! Just Add Money!!
What's the point of having art when there's money around? All that does is kill the art. Do I really have to be exiled from my entire culture because I'm not a zillionaire with 27 hours of free time a day?
I say we just give up on making art. We make money. That's what humans do, now. We have no culture or civilization apart from money. What a wonderful existance.
I'm gonna go fucking kill myself.
SnarkLicker 1 year ago
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@SnarkLicker DO IT FAGGOT.
JacopeX 1 year ago
if i could i would download a lamborghini lol i like to download movies or music for free and i still do it even if they put me in jail i dont care as long as i and my friends or my family have a good time watching a good movie its okay ! so this commercials are stupid no one cares im downloading right now what u gona do about it !
valontheagle 1 year ago
Where's that one which is like:
"This is what buying DVDs is like" and has a shot with people in a well lit room in a large lounge room looking like they are literally having the time of their lives watching a DVD, and then it goes
"This is what happens when you download" and it has a shot of a darkened room with a pasty nerd in a hoodie going insane as he stares at a loading bar. Is it anywhere? i find it hilarious.
DarKnightofCydonia 1 year ago
Piracy might be a crime but making anyone pay to see most hollywood dribble is a joke.
venuecam 1 year ago
You are actually stealing from me, a law abiding citizen! As you get movies for free, I have to pay for them because I want to do the right thing. If no one did the right thing, we would not have movies at all, if you make a great movie, a book or anything else, you are most welcome to give it away for free, make it open source and don't put ads on it, but these are professionals, which is why their movies are so good, they do this as their job, they need to get paid, would you do a job for 0$/h
Jepe2323 1 year ago
@Jepe2323 how many billion did the film industry make this year compared to last year? Yeah that's what I thought. Your comment isn't applicable.
venuecam 1 year ago
@venuecam How does the amount of money you make from something change anything. How many billion does Apple make of I-Phones, do you steal them too. What about food? I don't care about how much the film industry makes, I am not going to steal from them. If you do, well do it, but you should not think that it is justified because of the amount of money they make.
Jepe2323 1 year ago
@Jepe2323 look up "greed".
Does Apple pay money 2 make each individual iPhone? Yes. Does someone pay 2 produce a type of food that other people consume? Yes. Does the entertainment industry pay to create a new file everytime each person downloads a song or a film etc? No. It costs $0.00 2 allow digitial file 2 be downloaded. That and you never OWN someone elses music or movie. It's just a license to view. This business model is dead :D
venuecam 1 year ago
Most funnest,this ad were on PIRATE DVD!
Metalik4ever 1 year ago 71
So pirating videos is illegal. Huh. So your going to break down my door right now and confiscate my computer? Probably not.
Bus7777 1 year ago
one thing I don't get is piracy i the form of jailbreaking, modding, etc. It opens the doors to piracy and also helpes apple/sony etc get new ideas.
fantasycoproduction 1 year ago
@fantasycoproduction Didn't you get the memo? Jailbreaking was deemed legal
vargulf19 1 year ago
Is that what pirates did centuries ago? Buy one book and then copy hundreds of copies to give away? Damn them to hell!
AirborneNik 1 year ago 2
@AirborneNik i l0l'ed so hard
hailTHEfail 1 year ago 2
Geez they make enough money as it is......so u lose a few millions.....you already have billions....how much money do u need? Pure GREED is what it is
stackthemobtrue 1 year ago
ok i wont download them.....I'll just rent them and make a copy instead....
stackthemobtrue 1 year ago
This obviously wasnt made baring black people in mind.
49breezy 1 year ago
"Downloading pirated films is stealing". By that logic, taking a photo of someone is kidnapping.
DefenderOfTheFaith66 1 year ago 231
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 double LOL
parkour2693 1 year ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66
Well Said.
Alhambrattp 1 year ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 and talking to someone is assault.
venuecam 1 year ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66
Not even that. This would be more like "Putting your own quarter in the machine to xerox someone else's photo they let you borrow of someone is kidnapping".
rkyeun 1 year ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 lol, and posibly a paedo lol
Warstormed 1 year ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 do you even get the concept of pirated films?
Mastertj987 1 year ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 So true! :D
gubiithefish 11 months ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 This is like the Cockroach of advertisements. Its a pest and needs to be terminated.
SwiftCracker 9 months ago
@DefenderOfTheFaith66 What, what the hell is the logic behind that, that makes absolutely no sense, if you pirate something, you cost the developer whatever amount of money the item cost, it's stealing, If you take a photo of someone, that isn't a crime and it doesn't harm them.
ATLMember 8 months ago
Right behind you Bro!
TheInsaneSchoolchild 8 months ago
@ATLMember So when I copy Avatar, I'm costing Kirk Cameron 237 million dollars? Cool story, bro!
Shwaggetyshfifty 8 months ago 2
@ATLMember WRONG. When you pirate something you are stealing non-existent profit because if you didn't download, there would be no profit generated at all.
By buying a CD, you are not authorized to rip and burn OR EVEN LEND IT TO FRIENDS. Making a replica of the musics is not "stealing" content as it is, like a photo of the Mona Lisa painting is not considered theft. Although you are "replicating" the art anyway.
bf2lover42 8 months ago
@bf2lover42 Again, that's stupid, you are copying a product that costs money to develop, you are cheating a developer out of the money they would have earned if you had purchased the product. You are STEALING, call it what you want, at the end of the day you cost the developer a lot of money by pirating software. This shouldn't be hard to understand...
ATLMember 8 months ago
@ATLMember You are making it hard to understand. Let's imagine Photoshop. How many actually bought it? If it wasn't available for download in the first place, almost nobody outside the professional/academic use would have bought it anyway.
Therefore, Adobe lost almost no money because normally professionals and students have to buy such software, and the other users would have never shelled out that kind of money.
bf2lover42 8 months ago 5
@ATLMember
So, if you snap a photo of someone it costs you nothing, but if you then make a copy of that photo on your comp it costs you whatever the photo costs?
Logic fail! The fact is most people who download movies/games/etc wouldn't have bought the same item if they couldn't have downloaded it. Meaning that if they hadn't pirated it then the developers wouldn't have profited anyway, and since they lose nothing from a digital copy, everyone wins.
Vire70 8 months ago
@Vire70 yeah like when thor came out, and I was really keen to see it. So I went to the movies.
bingbang3214 8 months ago
@Vire70
223 People + Me says otherwise..
TheNiko004 7 months ago
@TheNiko004 234 people are gay
techfighterminal 7 months ago
@TheNiko004 oops thought you were opposing the vid my bad..
techfighterminal 7 months ago
it's making a copy, not stealing. and copying is a-ok.
like getting CD's from a library and copying them to your PC.
lookatmeanimator 1 year ago
"harming there industry"
harming THEIR industry would be the proper spelling.
Secondly, whereas big Hollywood is still reaping in money despite illegal downloads, it's the small production companies, new actors, and indie filmmakers you're hurting. James Cameron made enough money off Avatar regardless of piracy but Andrew Bujalski's films being pirated truly hurts his chances of becoming a more successful director. dirtyboy830 : you're racist, shut up.
faithbennett3 1 year ago 2
Change "there" to "their", and you've got a winner. From the UK, I expected a bit better English. ~_^
SpudCommonTater 1 year ago
I wouldn't steal a car...... but i would make an identical copy of it for my own use and i would allow my friends to make another copy for them,so we could all have cars.....
aaalexoid 1 year ago
They are greedy bastards, they want every penny they can get. damn wankers.
jerkakame 1 year ago
@jerkakame wankwank yankyank
Shonbi 1 year ago
@Shonbi Spankydank
jerkakame 1 year ago
Where industry? There industry. Where? There.
Unfortunately that kind of grammatical error makes the video lose a lot of credibility in my eyes.
Naniwayuri 1 year ago
@Naniwayuri **their
TheCoffeeandafag 1 year ago
@TheCoffeeandafag Ah, I see. Didn't know.
Naniwayuri 1 year ago
@TheCoffeeandafag
Yes, and on purpose, to illustrate the principle.
Naniwayuri 6 months ago
I downloaded this advert via limewire once.... so I could edit it. Oh the irony...
CLICKHEREKillACHILD 1 year ago 2
I would have to say that the Zeitgeist Movement (plug!) understands.
A Pirate is not a bad person. They appreciate the artistic work by acquiring it and enjoying it. I'm not talking about the pirates who SELL the material however. Those guys give pirates a bad name.
P.S. --- Fuck Capitalism: the cancer of this world.
hefland 1 year ago
@hefland i think cancer is probably the cancer of this world
TheCoffeeandafag 1 year ago
Why should we continue to make the wealthy people richer? Most of the wealthy don't share their fortune to those who need it. Instead use it to purchase useless things that they don't need...
Unfortunately, most of us may never have the chance to make thousands. And I'm sure those of us who do make it, would share it with the world to make it a better place. Until then, we will share our content.
Nanowise 1 year ago
just to let you know you didnt mention profit what if a movie costs 20m to make yet they made 19m rev? they didnt make 19m they lost 1m
crustproductions 1 year ago
@crustproductions If you want to know who is really hurting movie content providers, just look to the studios themselves. Read up on Hollywood Accounting (there's a nice wikipedia article describing it). Even the most successful movies don't turn a profit because of it. For example, the fifth Harry Potter movie is still $167M in the red, regardless of the fact that it took in $932M worldwide. Compare that $167M to the film's total production budget of $150M, and see if that somehow makes sense.
FrostdPoptart 1 year ago
@FrostdPoptart marketing and distribution.. its the most expensive.. but yeai know what u mean.
TheCoffeeandafag 1 year ago
There industry, fuck off idiot. Learn English.
Qetapaz 1 year ago
Let's also remember:
The GAO report on copyright infringement also found that piracy couldn't be quantified. In other words, the research of the Government actually doesn't think that piracy is wrong, but that in some industries it actually help! Imagine the RIAA, MPAA, ASCAP, or BMI admitting to that...
Right afterwards, I have an onion and the smallest violin to sell you.
Jyagos1 1 year ago
If you download a movie it wont disappear from the store, there is no stealing involved.
lol5882 1 year ago 2
@lol5882 i don't get why they think that downloading something is equivalent to stealing a car. no one gets hurt and the original item doesn't disappear. if you steal a car the original owner doesn't have the car anymore. if you download a movie you are not taking anything away from anybody.
dachshundfan 1 year ago
@lol5882
It's also more "economic" to download movies and music. :)
Nanowise 1 year ago
Cary Sherman President of Board of Directors of the RIAA
Mitch Bainwol Chairman and CEO of the RIAA
Hillary Rosen Former Chairman thereof
Lyor Cohen Chairman and CEO of Recorded Music for Warner Music Group
Seymour Stein vice president of Warner Bros. Records
Chairman and CEO of the MPAA Daniel Glickman
Robert Igers Walt Disney Chairman
Tom Rothman chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment
All of them and many more are all Jews. When you say, "Fuck the RIAA" you are actually saying, "Fuck the Jews."
dirtyboy830 1 year ago 2
The Jews who run the MPAA/RIAA just want to control the content. It has nothing to do with profit. This isn't greedy corporations. If that was true they would have bought Napster in the beginning. This way they would have been able to garner a monopoly over the file sharing industry and cash in big time on the file sharing craze. But we all know that isn't what happened. They want to control what content we have access to. They can't do that if the content is open as in a file sharing model.
dirtyboy830 1 year ago 2
Ah, piracy.
The convenient excuse for why the movie business seems to be failing rather than deal with the fact that, lately, the movies are sucking harder than my Miele.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@zarien85
Stop using P2P. Torrents are much safer. :)
@mwells219
Your argument doesn't actually hold water. Avatar has made close to 350B dollars. It's "infringed" upon. This entire idea that downloading is stealing is the thing we have to work to fight against.
If you want more information, why not search the GAO report that is saying that piracy isn't found to really hurt the industry but actually help it?
Jyagos1 1 year ago
"This entire idea that downloading is stealing..."
Technically if you haven't paid for a license to have the movie in your possession to whomever owns the copyright, it's stealing.
That said, IMO, piracy as a problem is WAY overblown.
The bigger problem is that Hollywood is hemorrhaging money making rehashes, sequels and movies based on existing properties (comic books, video games, etc.) while spending hundreds of millions of dollars for each project.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@Watcher3223
I can have a movie in my possession if I record it from TV to my DVR. Is that "stealing?" Of course, you'll say, "But you pay for the access through cable or watching ads." Well, don't I pay for my ISP?
Logic has failed the MPAA and RIAA - just like with VCRs and recordable audio tapes in the 80's. They are a bunch of crybabies who always seem to be 3 steps behind.
m015094 1 year ago
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@m015094
"I can have a movie in my possession if I record it from TV to my DVR. Is that "stealing?" Of course, you'll say, "But you pay for the access through cable or watching ads." Well, don't I pay for my ISP?"
In that case, the TV network was authorized to provide that content to you and the DVR is treated like the VCR regarding fair use. The ISP only provides a means to access, whether it's legal or not is dependent on where you go to.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
@m015094
But, I still think the industry is using piracy as an excuse for their own failings at providing something the customer can truly believe is good value for the money.
You can only go so far with music, movies and TV shows that only reflect trends and cater to the lowest common denominator rather than take good creative risk. Sooner or later, everyone will rightfully feel that it's all the same and, therefore, not worth paying for.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
And, you're correct that the MPAA and the RIAA are way behind regarding technology; in addition to providing content, their methods of delivery is related to their ability to earn revenue.
The problem is that the industry appears to be perverse in their risk aversion; adapting to a new way of delivery risks what is "tried and true," even if the "tried and true" way is no longer valid. They refuse to evolve, even if doing so means they become extinct.
I say LET THEM DIE if they refuse to adapt.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
The way the business is being run right now:
1. They're playing it too safe by going with what they think will satisfy the lowest common denominator and spending a lot of money to make sure the movie has a high level of polish; a highly polished turd of a film. Successful films, big budget and low budget, generally take CREATIVE RISKS instead of trying to satisfy everyone.
2. With typical budgets over $100 million now, the business is not cost effective.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
However, as Hollywood people generally have very BIG but very FRAGILE egos, they do not want to confront the fact they, themselves, are responsible for the business tanking as it is; there is no leadership to take risks and draw the line and say "enough is enough" in regards to the financial abuses in the business.
So, to avoid the ugly reality, they place blame elsewhere: piracy and other forms of entertainment.
Watcher3223 1 year ago
if they could try and make buying a movie or album as convenient as downloading one then they might have a chance... but, until then, share for life i say !! :-)
greavo13 1 year ago
Fucking MPAA and RIAA faggots need to quit their bitching and accept downloading. Times change man. No ones gonna buy your album
mh3743 1 year ago
Seriously? Just because it might not harm the industry as a whole very much doesn't mean that it doesn't harm certain individuals or video rental stores. And no matter what way you look at it, it's still wrong and it's still illegal.
EllipsisStudios 1 year ago
@EllipsisStudios Illegal and wrong are not necessarily synonomous, for example currently under the DMCA it is illegal to circumvent DRM to copy CDs and movies. Is it wrong? If I want to back up my legally acquired media then I will feel no remorse.
travelsonic 1 year ago
@travelsonic Well, you DO have a point there... I guess one of the major issues in this argument is that one side keeps arguing about what is legal and illegal, while the other side says it doesn't matter because what they say is illegal isn't actually wrong. It's confusing.
EllipsisStudios 1 year ago
0:07 - "harming THERE industry" lol fail
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Silly cultist spammers :p
megamarsvin 1 year ago
I download because the anti piracy commercials that you are forced to watch when you have bought a legal copy, enoy me :)
UpYoursNightmare 1 year ago
I would love to ask the one would made this, "what if I would steal a car, then what?" lol
outlawstar00000 1 year ago
"you wouldn't download a car"
fuck you! i would if i could
Ookamiboy12 1 year ago 22
@Ookamiboy12 you wouldnt download bread
yellowklayman 1 year ago
@yellowklayman fuck you I would if I could!
fantasycoproduction 1 year ago