feet are not straight- kiba dachi feet should be paralell. hips not rolled under, spine should be straight and but tucked like you are sitting on a chair. block does not come up like a window shade, it needs to travel up and turn out. and on and on. this is either a corrupted transmission or poor training. nice towel and doghouse?
He's techniques are sound and he is also right that Ryukyuan Te did have grappling in it.Jodan uke is not just a block but also a strike. Kime no Okinawa no Karate no waza ii to omoimasu. Thank you for the clip. Osu.
i will hold my arm out and you will block. wow. that is something to study. please. this makes an art look like a rediculous farce. sorry to say but you need a better teacher. one with a grasp on reality vs simple tradition. these are decent things to study and get good at, but they are not things that are advanced as the previous poster mentioned.
@stmk0 Actually, Ed Parker learned Kara Ho Kempo under William Chow, not Kosho Ryu. Kosho Ryu was the style Chow learned from James Mitose before Chow created Kara Ho. Parker then proceeded to dismantle Chow's system until 90% of what Kempo had once been was completely gone and called it American Kenpo.
@44excalibur You say "dismantle", others would say reformulated and streamlined the useful moves into a working street fighting system based on scientific principles and logic. So yea, no more 100 different spinning jump kicks to the head.
@Deilgyre And yet, it is Ed Parker's Kenpo that the most heavily criticised for being too simplistic in its approach, to overcomplicated in its individual techniques, with too much practice angainst static ukes instead of resiting opponents, and too much of the grappling from Kara Ho and Kosho Ryu removed in favor of pure striking. I don't think anyone would say that professor William Chow or his system was ineffective. Kajukenbo is much closer to Chow's system than Parker's.
@44excalibur Criticisms from people who don't know the design behind the system. You certainly can't see it on the commercial school level, which is what you are describing.
Techniques aren't complicated, they are sophisticated; there's a difference. The self defense models are easily taken apart and you practice the individual concepts, principles, and moves contained in them.
If after people learn the techniques they are still using static partners, well they are doing it wrong.
@Deilgyre I'm well aware of the system. Chinese and Okinawan Kempo was the first style I learned, and my sensei met and trained with Ed Parker. I learned of the criticisms of the Parker system being described as a "slap art," and that Parker removed much of what was in Mitose and Chow's systems to the point where JIm and Al Tracy - as well as Chow himself - said that Parker's American Kenpo system had very little of true Kempo left in it. I don't criticise, but I do question Parker's decisions.
@44excalibur Do you really think, that anywhere in Parker's system, there are actually 'slaps' to the opponent?
Have you ever ran across the term elastic recoil or rebounding?
It's in Chinese systems, I know. We've had kung fu practitioners walk in casually off the street and display their skills most impressively. They also "slapped".
Search "Paul Mills" on YouTube to see kenpo 'slapping' from a current kenpoist.
@Deilgyre You know, I think you and @nerdswers should get together and have a "discussion" about Ed Parker's Kenpo. It would certainly be an interesting debate.
@44excalibur And here I thought we were having a discussion, and then you get bent out of shape and sling the insult. That and obscenities are what people typically resort to when on the losing end of a debate.
Btw, the Tracys are flat out liars - bitter they were cut out of Ed's circle. Their online smear campaign against him started after the old man died - that should tell you something. And why is it there aren't any vids of the Tracys in motion online, unlike Ed?
@Deilgyre Excuse me, but I did not get bent out of shape, nor did sling any insults at you. If anything, YOU are the one who is overreacting. I simply suggested that you have a debate with @nerdswers since you so strongly defend Ed Parker's Kenpo and he is such a fervent critic of it. I've debated with @nerdswers myself in the past over the Kosho Ryu and Kara Ho systems and find his views to be extremely narrow-minded. It would be extremely interesting to see a debate between you and him.
One of my faves... To palm sweep the round or hooking punch just enough to get inside the attacking arm. Do a spin and meet him in the mouth with the other elbow. No second shot and you have to wait for him to commit.
I think you guys are over analyzing. The block he is showing is really only effective in a controlled technique as a real block you would use is reactional and normally nothing like you are taught unless you are being attacked by some slow ass dude..
That is what I was saying about the checkblock and strike. The checkblock is your initial reaction when you throw up a hand just to keep from getting hit. What most people ar taught is a block is really a strike. Think about the movements that are happening, study your kata, and take it to the street. This stuff is very effective, not as this guy is showing. Do not limit your mindset to what your instructor tells you is right. Open your mind to history an think about why the warriors did it.
Blcoking is very good ugainst the hook. Someone hooks you one and you just block it and are readyy to perform any move easily leaving your oponent a slow reaction.
rising blocks- too slow to be used against punches, maybe practical for catching an overhead strike with a pipe if you can get close enough to contact the wrist not the pipe other than that, totally useless in real fights.
you peeps should NOT watch this stuff.... Arm broken in half from that pos movement. (notice I didnt say technique) that guy should put his white belt back on cause HE SUX.
I have to laugh at all the so called black belts here. The upper block is great for a street fight, but not this way. Most people are taught wrong. What he is calling the block is actually the strike after the block. A proper block of any sort has got a "checkblock" that is the actual block. Traditional arts were created at a time when if you one of you died, so yes traditional arts are very effective. Study your kata there are death strikes from day 1.
@Pecherin72 But you can certainly take what looks like a basic block and sophisticate it's motion and change it's definition. Then it would become an advanced move, if you didn't teach it that way initially. It's usually too much information for a beginner to take it, showing him how an upward block can strike someone 3 times with forward/reverse motion.
The upward block in this vid is 1 dimensional, so it will always be a 'basic' block.
you wont get much out of a 2 minute video and 30 secs of a technique
stompySharpNpointy 8 months ago
feet are not straight- kiba dachi feet should be paralell. hips not rolled under, spine should be straight and but tucked like you are sitting on a chair. block does not come up like a window shade, it needs to travel up and turn out. and on and on. this is either a corrupted transmission or poor training. nice towel and doghouse?
willfullyobscure 9 months ago
He isn't bad but it's not traditional.
KylerStern1 1 year ago
He's techniques are sound and he is also right that Ryukyuan Te did have grappling in it.Jodan uke is not just a block but also a strike. Kime no Okinawa no Karate no waza ii to omoimasu. Thank you for the clip. Osu.
1banryukyu 1 year ago
i will hold my arm out and you will block. wow. that is something to study. please. this makes an art look like a rediculous farce. sorry to say but you need a better teacher. one with a grasp on reality vs simple tradition. these are decent things to study and get good at, but they are not things that are advanced as the previous poster mentioned.
winemakerjasonmoore 1 year ago
any guy at street would seriously destroy him
ZerOScope1 1 year ago
I love the way he pronounces karate. Ahahaha~ Trying to sound pro, karaté.
skyemptyhollow 1 year ago
He doesn't even know how to make an upper block.
Huantalahnmi 1 year ago
Advanced? I remember learning this block as a child in my white belt class.
1selfmademan 1 year ago
Lol... Kenpo karate isn't Okinawan... It's american.
AchtungKarate 2 years ago
And Kenpo is a modern art and Kempo is a traditional art.
PhUTube4Evah 2 years ago
Ken Po is the Okinawan translation, and Kem Po is the Japanese translation for the Chinese Chuan Fa.
They are one in the same, just different branches.
tagg1080 2 years ago
@tagg1080 Actually you are completely wrong. But thanks for playing.
PhUTube4Evah 2 years ago
Ken Po is an Okinawan translation...
So the word is Okinawan, but it is American? What?
tagg1080 2 years ago
@AchtungKarate Ed Parker learned Kosho-Ryu Kenpo, and then developed his own "American Kenpo."
stmk0 1 year ago
@stmk0 Actually, Ed Parker learned Kara Ho Kempo under William Chow, not Kosho Ryu. Kosho Ryu was the style Chow learned from James Mitose before Chow created Kara Ho. Parker then proceeded to dismantle Chow's system until 90% of what Kempo had once been was completely gone and called it American Kenpo.
44excalibur 1 year ago
@44excalibur You say "dismantle", others would say reformulated and streamlined the useful moves into a working street fighting system based on scientific principles and logic. So yea, no more 100 different spinning jump kicks to the head.
Deilgyre 1 year ago
@Deilgyre And yet, it is Ed Parker's Kenpo that the most heavily criticised for being too simplistic in its approach, to overcomplicated in its individual techniques, with too much practice angainst static ukes instead of resiting opponents, and too much of the grappling from Kara Ho and Kosho Ryu removed in favor of pure striking. I don't think anyone would say that professor William Chow or his system was ineffective. Kajukenbo is much closer to Chow's system than Parker's.
44excalibur 1 year ago
@44excalibur Criticisms from people who don't know the design behind the system. You certainly can't see it on the commercial school level, which is what you are describing.
Techniques aren't complicated, they are sophisticated; there's a difference. The self defense models are easily taken apart and you practice the individual concepts, principles, and moves contained in them.
If after people learn the techniques they are still using static partners, well they are doing it wrong.
Deilgyre 1 year ago
@Deilgyre I'm well aware of the system. Chinese and Okinawan Kempo was the first style I learned, and my sensei met and trained with Ed Parker. I learned of the criticisms of the Parker system being described as a "slap art," and that Parker removed much of what was in Mitose and Chow's systems to the point where JIm and Al Tracy - as well as Chow himself - said that Parker's American Kenpo system had very little of true Kempo left in it. I don't criticise, but I do question Parker's decisions.
44excalibur 1 year ago
@44excalibur Do you really think, that anywhere in Parker's system, there are actually 'slaps' to the opponent?
Have you ever ran across the term elastic recoil or rebounding?
It's in Chinese systems, I know. We've had kung fu practitioners walk in casually off the street and display their skills most impressively. They also "slapped".
Search "Paul Mills" on YouTube to see kenpo 'slapping' from a current kenpoist.
Deilgyre 1 year ago
@Deilgyre You know, I think you and @nerdswers should get together and have a "discussion" about Ed Parker's Kenpo. It would certainly be an interesting debate.
44excalibur 1 year ago
@44excalibur And here I thought we were having a discussion, and then you get bent out of shape and sling the insult. That and obscenities are what people typically resort to when on the losing end of a debate.
Btw, the Tracys are flat out liars - bitter they were cut out of Ed's circle. Their online smear campaign against him started after the old man died - that should tell you something. And why is it there aren't any vids of the Tracys in motion online, unlike Ed?
/Discussion.
Deilgyre 1 year ago
@Deilgyre Excuse me, but I did not get bent out of shape, nor did sling any insults at you. If anything, YOU are the one who is overreacting. I simply suggested that you have a debate with @nerdswers since you so strongly defend Ed Parker's Kenpo and he is such a fervent critic of it. I've debated with @nerdswers myself in the past over the Kosho Ryu and Kara Ho systems and find his views to be extremely narrow-minded. It would be extremely interesting to see a debate between you and him.
44excalibur 1 year ago
One of my faves... To palm sweep the round or hooking punch just enough to get inside the attacking arm. Do a spin and meet him in the mouth with the other elbow. No second shot and you have to wait for him to commit.
Oilslickman 2 years ago
I think you guys are over analyzing. The block he is showing is really only effective in a controlled technique as a real block you would use is reactional and normally nothing like you are taught unless you are being attacked by some slow ass dude..
kiwimace 2 years ago
That is what I was saying about the checkblock and strike. The checkblock is your initial reaction when you throw up a hand just to keep from getting hit. What most people ar taught is a block is really a strike. Think about the movements that are happening, study your kata, and take it to the street. This stuff is very effective, not as this guy is showing. Do not limit your mindset to what your instructor tells you is right. Open your mind to history an think about why the warriors did it.
hermandnanner 2 years ago
im in KARATE its cool
brenthaha 2 years ago
Shameful ex poser
Oilslickmanis 2 years ago
Blcoking is very good ugainst the hook. Someone hooks you one and you just block it and are readyy to perform any move easily leaving your oponent a slow reaction.
seandexile 2 years ago
rising blocks- too slow to be used against punches, maybe practical for catching an overhead strike with a pipe if you can get close enough to contact the wrist not the pipe other than that, totally useless in real fights.
yousedcarguy 3 years ago
noob:))
angelingabriel 3 years ago
lulz karate is not only defensive... omg
what a noob.
boogieman221thx 3 years ago
this guy would have his ass kicked SO fast on the street...dont listen to any of this garbage!!
bigj41004 3 years ago 2
@bigj41004 OH SHIT, NOT TEH STREETS!!!
peachdica 1 year ago
@bigj41004 fuck you pal its not garbage go watch ufc then
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CashClassen 3 years ago
in tkd horse stance is called anun-sogi
and zenkucudachi is called gunun-sogi
cunjoz 3 years ago
oh.... My....... God.........
you peeps should NOT watch this stuff.... Arm broken in half from that pos movement. (notice I didnt say technique) that guy should put his white belt back on cause HE SUX.
Oilslickman 3 years ago
I have to laugh at all the so called black belts here. The upper block is great for a street fight, but not this way. Most people are taught wrong. What he is calling the block is actually the strike after the block. A proper block of any sort has got a "checkblock" that is the actual block. Traditional arts were created at a time when if you one of you died, so yes traditional arts are very effective. Study your kata there are death strikes from day 1.
hermandnanner 2 years ago 2
There is nothing "Advanced" in a basic block.
Pecherin72 3 years ago 7
@Pecherin72 But you can certainly take what looks like a basic block and sophisticate it's motion and change it's definition. Then it would become an advanced move, if you didn't teach it that way initially. It's usually too much information for a beginner to take it, showing him how an upward block can strike someone 3 times with forward/reverse motion.
The upward block in this vid is 1 dimensional, so it will always be a 'basic' block.
Deilgyre 1 year ago
@Pecherin72 But your basics are so much more important than your advanced techniques. So let's not worry about the details.
JCHCUser 1 year ago
this is good
christwarrior56 3 years ago