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  • @JenniferVermont I know this bitch is real stupid ma everybody keep sayin this bitch is callin them u n now when u say somethin to her for once she scared n talk shit to other people. she got some nigga talkin shit to anniej. sayin she needs to be uplifted but she aint uplifting u with the shit she doin. hold your head up ma.

  • @AnnieJunebug They discriminating.

  • lol

  • @AnnieJunebug that sounds right 2 me. lulz!

  • @JenniferVermont ma u know u got a word from afrosheen but she scared so she sent it 2 me n 2 AnnieJunebug. lulz! the bitch scared what u think about that? lulz!

  • @AnnieJunebug lmao, ma she still think we jver. lulz! U c jver got a page on here talkin 2 her right? She aint said shit 2 her but she said shit 2 u n me. lulz! Scared ass.

  • @AnnieJunebug Now you're talking to yourself- from your troll channel? SMH-

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  • @AnnieJunebug U see how this bitch said that ur psychotic issues dont match hers? she right about that. lulz

  • @AnnieJunebug n ma, dont get it twisted this bitch lies about mad shit especially on women cuz the bitch is jealous cuz her life is all fucked up no fuckin job n shit but this bitch be lying n shit. A nice lady on here that was in her 40's i dont know her name bcuz i aint been on a minute, but the lady wrote on a video n she started shit n sayin the lady had the virus. aint that some backwards shit cuz she got it now this lady got it n niggas was on here tellin everybody that shit. lying hoes

  • @AnnieJunebug And that shit went so crazy I had to shut down my shit, change my numbers and fucking move from my crib. Those bitches met up to fight at my fucking door told me it was my fault. wtf? I told those two bitches if they wasnt spillin shit to fucking troublemaking bitches it wouldnt have gone down in the first and I can fuck who I want they aint my fucking girls, they bitches I fuck. Bitch gave them my shit too cuz she knew my shit I fucked them at they cribs not mine.

  • @AnnieJunebug You a funny ass broad and yeah Im with what you said because this bitch has problems and yeah she tried to fuck me even after telling everybody she was married. I dont get the hate men part you said though because this bitch was always acting horny. All that king shit is her ass tryna fuck niggas. How you think the bitch pays bills, she fucks niggas for that dolla.

  • @AnnieJunebug Imma be real open with my shit right now, last year I was on here and cool with this bitch but I was fucking two other ones on here but they aint know each other and they both got mixed up with watching this bitch's videos and she went behind my back and was picking real them for shit about them with this peace love shit and they both let her know they was fucking me and she told them about each other the next thing these bitches went crazy it was a bitch shit.

  • @b9gregjockca Its always these heman bitches that beg for dick and I know this bitch is fuckin infected because her queen goddess sista told me the shit last year and when I asked her she fuckin ducked me and that told me right there it was for real and she tried to fuck me with that nasty ass dying pussy.

  • @AnnieJunebug this bitch is calling everybody this Jennifer shit. You Jennifer and b9gregjockca is on another fucking video. What else is this bitch going to make up? Did she try to fuck yu too cause she tried to fuck me a year ago but her ass is ugly and has diseases who the fuck is that fucking desperate?

  • @b9gregjockca I aint see that shit but you know what it aint new and this bitch has a problem because she came to me in October of last year asking me to send her ass a gift becuz she the queen and I told the bitch she aint no fucking queen and I aint gonna send her ass shit. She kept pushing calling me handsome king and I need an appropriate queen. I told this nappy headed bitch that I dont fuck with married women and she said she aint legally married. I tried to let the ugly bitch down easy.

  • @b9gregjockca Dont ask me what that shit is supposed to mean I think its some ancient bullshit, and she dont know what the shit means the motherfuckers who made the shit up are dead so how the fuck did she get the 411 on the shit. lulz Maybe she says the shit because she wants those dumbass mummies to rise from the dead and fuck her ass because not even the ugly motherfuckers who are alive wanna touch the bitch.

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  • @b9gregjockca LoL, I just saw that, but she didn't use a comb so it was a waste of time.

  • @b9gregjockca Him and every fucker on this planet that ain't got an infected dick. Bitches with the virus and pyorrhea of the mouth ain't got no hope. This bitch's gums are darker than the shit that comes out of her ass! If she put makeup on that ugly ass mug and comb her hair, the bitch would stilll be ugly.

  • @uheardme1stime I'd hang myself first.... dumb gay bitchass pussy boy

  • @TheAfroQween You blocking bitch, now like I was gonna tell your ugly ass on your video of ugly, ou wasnt talking all of that shit last year when you was begging for my dick and some gifts fucking ugly ass bitch.

  • @SuperTouchyFeely Begging for a dick that you don't have you bulldaggin ho- you're nothing but a low frequency bitch hiding behind a photo of a dude- ROFLMAO- get a life Jver and grow the fuck up- your niece needs you-

  • @TheAfroQween I gotta dick n u know all about begging for it, cuz u did that shit last year, I know u remember me Darius. lulz! But u need 2 talk to jver n not me but since u 2 scared 2 hit the button Imma let her know u over here talkin shit 2 me about her cuz I C u got a word from her. lulz!

  • @TheAfroQween Well maybe you should go ahead and try that bitch.

  • @uheardme1stime Sit on a chain saw

  • @AnnieJunebug ROFLMAO- smh I feel sorry for you Jennifer. Grow up-

  • @TheAfroQween Thanks for the show-now I'm sleepy- I needed that laugh...

  • @TheAfroQween Bitch please where is Ashlee bitch where were you and this dysfunction video when that slut was getting pregnant huh??? I think you need to take your own advice. Bitch you are the new face of suicide. You embody the essence of failure and depression, you textboo maniac Angie George. The weak motherfucker who does not work and is begging people to allow her to babysit their kids. Your boyfriend fucked your crack hdead mother so you are dysfunction hoe.

  • @AnnieJunebug YAWN- try again.. maybe you should google me and get the real info.

  • @AnnieJunebug bother me? You are a certified nut Jennifer- anyone who talks to themselves on different channels as if they are different people,makes you the nutcase not me- you actually are entertaining -- this is fun.. thanks for keeping me sharp-

  • @TheAfroQween Its wonderful how you are sooo stupid..you actually hang around to prove me right. Be the fool that you will always be and keep making stupid comments..keep calling this broad the wrong person saying stupid crap because its the only way you can sound clever. You're a boring sad piece of scum.hahaha. So who else are you going to call the wrong person crackhead? lulz

  • @AnnieJunebug yet another failed attempt to project your inner issues onto me-- grow up Jennifer and find a life stop living on your mother.... what are you 24

  • @TheAfroQween you still on that bull shit one year later and aint a damn thing changed. smh

  • @AnnieJunebug You keep repeating the same old mantra over and over- is that all you have to say - calling me a lesbian doesn't make you any less of one.

  • @AnnieJunebug Keep reaching- even if that was true @ least I don't live with my meth head momma

  • @AnnieJunebug Says the faceless slut who supports gays and 'animal rights' what is it you fuck dogs too?

  • @AnnieJunebug How's your mother's psych visits going since your brother got his brains blown out- ? Where's your niece is she in the foster care system yet? Someone needs to take her away from you bc you have serious issues - next you'll be trying to drown her in the bathtub - don't forget to take your meds....I mean meth... loony bitch

  • @AnnieJunebug There you go self projecting again- is that why you have such a hard on for me is bc you really want me to let you eat my pussy? Is that why you're over here fucking with me? That's why you came to my channel, posed as a friend under jver and attacked others on my you tube channel - you were looking for a secret lover? Take your rotten pussy and get it checked- stop looking for love on youtube-

  • @TheAfroQween Another thing who would leave their baby with someone like you. Angie please tell me who in their right mind would leave a child in your care bitch?? You were not even responsible with your own two kids. You look crazy as hell and you are a certified nutjob and a ticking time bomb. Girl you really need to go to their mirror and look at yourself long and hard and then give yourself and your kids a hug and say I am sorry. You are a failure as a parent!!!

  • @AnnieJunebug Keep making your noose bitch- soon you will hang yourself just like that troll yee you claimed to hate so much- two faced, mole agent spy bitch

  • @AnnieJunebug It would be in YOURS to sit down and shut the fuck up and get help- you've driven yourself batshit crazy and I don't do nice nasty compliments from hybrid troll lying ass bitches- just like you shut down your face book page JENNIFER, you shut down you YOU TUBE page AS WELL as all the other troll pages you created to fuck with MegaZeitGeist and many others on you tube- fuck YOU AND your psychotic, demented ass- SUCK A DICK and SWALLOW bitch.

  • @AnnieJunebug is that why you are fucking with me because your jig is up and you think I won't expose your ass for the bi- polar, two faced liar you really are?

  • @AnnieJunebug Your inner insecurities and self projected psychotic issues don't match mine- JVER- JENNIFER VERMONT- from CALIFORNIA who poses as other people yet befriends racist mutha fukkas on you tube to start shit and try to cause drama because you set your brother up and he got killed or was it that he owed someone some $ due to being strung out on meth and his pusher had his brains blown out. Your father molested you and left you and your mother alone to fend for yourselves?

  • @uheardme1stime Can you please eat rat poison and die NOW? 

  • @AnnieJunebug @ least I have a mother and wasn't left in a dumpster by a crack head posing as a hooker- do you even know your mother?

  • The War on Terror, the War on Drugs, these are all abstract ideas. The war on terrorism makes little sense. Look though the eyes of civilian people being killed by the U.S.. They will most likely see America a terrorist. The war on drugs. Hmmm... Lets look at the pharmaceutical corporations telling people to take drugs that they really do not need.

  • THIS SICK SCUMBAG DID NOT MENTION..

    2001's Anthrax Attack, 2001 Terrorist Attack on USA Mosques by Rubin & Krugel, The IRS Building Attacks by a White Pilot, 2001's Richard Reid, 2002 El Al attacks, 2002's Beltway snipers, 2003's White Supremacist Tyler Poison Gas Plot, 2003's John Noster pipe bombs, 2006's Allen Weatherford and his Bombing Attacks, 2006's Seattle shootings, 2007's Talovic Mall Attacks, 2008's Jim Adkisson "Liberal killing" Attacks.

    ALL HAPPENED IN AMERICA AFTER 9/11 DURING BUSH

  • Giuliani is a neocon scumbag who shamelssly profits from 9/11. His incompetency lead to the unecessary deaths of over one hundred firemen. He also wouldn't let them recover their dead properly for political reasons.

    Total scumbag

  • @Darusdei then you have obviously never heard of the war on drugs...

  • Why is Giuliani consulted on matters of terrorism? I mean, what's his claim of expertise on the subject, that he happened to be mayor the day New York the day the attack happened? This guy's 15 minutes were up a long time ago.

  • war on terrorism... most retarded thing i've ever heard...

  • no domestic attack under Bush. Planned under Clinton. 'War on Terror' tells people who we are at war with.

  • the young jerks

  • @WR3STL3 That has been told before and it was never a good joke.

  • "no domestic attacks under bush" hmmm well i guess that's true seeing the big one was orchestrated by the government itself. if you shoot yourself in the head it's actually suicide, not murder

  • right, NEVAR forgit, y'all

  • you have a higher chance of dying in a car accident then you have of dying from a terrorist attack so what are you gonna do never drive or ride in a car because the risk is too high and your scared no people need to quit living in fear of these terrorists because thats what they want they want us to live in fear of them and if we do live in fear then they have already won

  • @godhatesbooklerners

    It died around the time /b/ died. (I know where you got nevar forget from...)

  • if your scared of terrorist, got a far greater chance wrecking into a bus full of porn stars then being in a terrorist act.

    9/11 only one I even consider a "terrorist" act, underwear bomber shoe bomber DC sniper and the recent times square guy ..all bombers = false, DC snipers were acting alone. Do you really think we are this good at security after 9/11? To catch every bomb, chemcial and lite ciggerette? Please

    NORAD 2000 %: 100%

    NORAD 2001% 0%;1 target saved by citizens

    1 name Dick Cheney

  • Giuliani is a piece of shit.

  • Idiot, 9-11 was Clinton's fault. He had the chance to capture bin Laden and didn't do it. Blaming Bush for 9-11 is no better than blaming Obama for the recession, Bush set him up for it.

  • While Clinton has some blame for 9/11, so do both Bush's as well as Reagan. Keep in mind the first unsuccessful attack attack to destroy the WTC occured just 5 weeks into Clinton's presidency, as it was during the previous decade under Presidents Reagan and (Elder) Bush. Younger Bush also should have been able to see it coming between the time he took office until September 10, 2001.

  • @redsoxfan426 Clinton at least tried. The pentagon,cia, and fbi refused to certify that bin laden was behind the cole attack when Clinton had battle plans for taking down the taliban but needed basing rights is Afghanistan. Tenet, who shit for brains bush gave the medal of freedom. Read Richard Clarke's book "Against All Enemies", or at least review his testimony. bush down graded the counter-terrorist from a cabinet level position, staye on vacation after the August 6th memo.

  • I love how the Right doesn't think Obama is tough on terrorists. HE FUCKING ORDERED ATTACKS AGAINST MILITANTS IN PAKISTAN!!!!! How much more do you want?

  • Shut up

    911 inside job

    Take a closer look America

    Bring home our troops war mongers

    Lies lies lies and more lies

    Wake up America - End the Fed and 911 and it's wars will end with the Obamanation of America

  • the announcer is a HOMO !!!!!!

  • @LOLCATS3111:

    More baseless insults.

    I haven't seen you point out any facts lately, just more hate speech.

    You are a PATHETIC LYING LOSER.

  • brw3rd - how sad is it that you follow me around like a little lost puppy ....... I know you are looking for a friend but I'm not interested, I have plenty already

  • @LOLCATS3111:

    "looking for a friend"

    Hardly. Actually, I just like putting idiots in their place, especially smart ass, pathetic lying, losers. Still no recognition of your faults! Still no facts! Still nothing but insults!

  • You can call him whatever you want he is still right...

  • @LiquidT3nsion YOU SIR, ARE A MORON!

  • @blinkRomance Wow, you made such a very good point. Don't exceed your five words limit or you will have a brain hemorrhage.

  • @LiquidT3nsion Alright! Your comment was implying Giuliani is right... correct? What exactly is he right about? He pretty well showed his own stupidity by claiming no attacks happened under Bushes presidency. IF I somehow misread that comment, I apologize, but if not... YOU SIR, ARE A MORON!

  • @blinkRomance My comment is so old i really can't recall who i sent it to or why!!... but as far as i remember i meant that the commentator of TYT was correct whatsoever. I dislike Guliani, i never liked that douche bag.

  • remember when rudy was a man we could respect and who seemed competent...what happened:(

  • ruBygiuliani and Apaulin should fade into the sunset.....

  • the only surprising thing about rudy9/11 is that he was so stupid, so transparent and so incompetent that even information-challenged repubs could see through him when he ran for president. even with clusterfox on his side, he sank like a stone.

  • LOL.. ole Rudy is at it again... great vid!!!

  • All hail Giuliani! The more he speaks, the more the right-wing looks like the petty hypocritical crooks they are.

  • haha you got to love these republicans.

  • America has started the sixth crusade.

  • I feel safer under Bush than under Obama.

  • hahaha dude you are such an anti-American leftist. WHY DON'T YOU MOVE TO EUROPE. You fucking dumb sand nigger

  • No one who lives in America, conservative or liberal, is anti-american

  • That's correct. Not as lean, but still a Marine. Semper Fidelis!

  • You're an idiot.

  • @JimmyFormerMarine i thought it was once a marine always a marine

  • Bush had tough policies and the terrorists were SCARED of him! The terrorists know Obama wants peace but they don't care, thus the TERRORISTS. They are taking advantage of Obama's easygoing style!

  • @ThePepper67

    LOL are you kidding me?

    The terrorists successfully attacked US on 9/11 even with CIA warnings to the POTUS GWBush.

    How is Obama being "easygoing" by keeping Gitmo open, continuing torture and rendition, expanding the Af/Pak war etc...

    You either are joking or are totally delusional and have drunken the Fox News kool-aid

  • "Bush had tough policies and the terrorists were SCARED of him! The terrorists know Obama wants peace but they don't care, thus the TERRORISTS. They are taking advantage of Obama's easygoing style! "

    Yes, tough on terrorism and trying to force our ports into Dubai's hands. Yes, that is real tough! I, and the rest of my East Coast brothers, fought that deal and won. We did more to fight the war on terror.

  • yeahh like invading iraq which led to a new generation of islamic extremeists. you think terrorists who want to die were like oh shit george bush wants to fight lets go hide, ffucking bullshit they were the difference is under obama you have a chance of actually having allies in the fight against al qaeda instead of the world thinking your dumb rednecks

  • The Blackwater situation alone will create more than enough terrorists. Beleive me, if we still had Bush in office, we would be in Iraq and Yemen right now draining our resources and creating more hatred.

  • @ChicagoJoe57 Obama is really soft i agree. Especially since he placed more troops into Afghanistan to get OBL. Remember him?

  • Rudy is the essence of hypocrisy

  • The day Hussein Obama went to Cairo and kissed all the Muslim behinds they got the green light to murder Americans.

  • @JimmyFormerMarine

    So its better to antagonize all Muslims? Yeah lets make it a religious/cultural war!

    People like you play right into the hands of the terrorists. The more of a reaction they get, the more the US is provoked the more the terrorists win.

    The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are a boon for Al-Qaeda

  • Wow Stephanopolous really has Guiliani's cock deep deep in his tiny throat. Giuliani is a fucking liar but Stephanopolous is worse. He is supposed to be a journalist not a pussy puss fluffer.

  • Still want to know why Bush/Cheney aren't in jail and be tried for war crimes?

    Anyone?

  • Giuliani has selective memory just like the rest of the GOP... they fucked up our country now want to get back in power to do it again...people wake up, don't let them.

  • Giuliani is a complete and utter cunt.

  • lets not forget the anthrax attacks, sniper of dc, I can go on and on.

  • Rudy...he's losing it.

  • uhhh....

    didn't 9/11 occur during Bush's term???

  • Huge misconception going on here!

    The president, saying he wants to close Guantanamo, does not mean he is going to stop holding people indefinitely without trial.

    Recent news has shown that he wants to buy a prison, or move the prisoners to a existing prison with in the United States to hold the prisoners that they already have. These prisoners will still be held without trial for an indefinite period there just moving them to a different location.

  • Rudy Giuliani is lying,guiodo- thieveing,

    giunea-WOP, exstortionist, who took money from the mafia and then put them in jail!! Rule# 3

    Italians are evil and not to be trusted in politics!!

  • How is Guilliani in any way, shape or form relevant nowadays? The GOP hates him, New York hates him...So why is he on TV?? You might as well have Joe the Plumber sitting in Guilliani's seat, George.

  • 9/11 was on Cheney's watch and Richard Reed the shoebomber and on and on......giuliani is a prostitute for the gop .....what a retard

  • He's right. 911 was an inside job.

  • wow what a stupid pin head idiot! just shut up you stupid cunt!!!

  • we need to call this operation the war on our pet goats

  • When "everybody in the world" knows there is a war on terrorism, what's the point of saying it, repeating it over and over again?!

  • Okay, this video is making me feel like a Cenk dittohead...awesome points!

  • terror is in the eye of the beholder. i wasn't scared so it's not terrorism to me. only sissy boys, schoolgirls, and the French are scared of dying. we need to send our own suicide bombers back to the middle east

  • @FluffyFeralMarmot Everything after the first sentence is kinda dumb, but you make an interesting point about terror being in the eye of the beholder. The christmas attempted attack didnt scare me either, but i still think it should be called an attempted act of terror.

  • Seriously? Ok, lets list the number of terrorists incidents under Bush after 9/11: Jewish Defense League plot Shoe bomber plot the Egyptian man who shot two people at LAX DC Sniper The OU bombing The Anthrax attacks The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle shooting Trolley Square Shooting Knoxville Church Shooting Dalton law firm suicide bombing VT massacre many more, not to mention the terrorist incidents against Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. Giuliani is total moron.
  • i lived in NYC when he was mayor....all the bums dissapeared...i think he had them put to sleep.

    the only thing i liked about him was his refusal to acknowledge Al Sharpton.

    btw Rudy did like we all did on 9-11.....run uptown!....

    he was praised for what? basically doing what a news reporter did everyday after 9-11?

    he didnt do shit, and is still turning his back on resue workers who are now sick. just like most GOPers.

    isnt it time you get a new wife Rudy?

    how are the kids?

  • excellent point

    not to mention how the nyc fire dept absolutely loath him

  • @snapplelemon

    thank you...i see you are a Metallica fan....you have to be cool....lol.

    just seen them at the Garden last November.

  • ha dude, i was at the same show...i was there for the second gig at the Garden, the Sunday night show

    judas kiss baby

  • Rudy left out ANTHRAX....remember? about a month after the towers fell?

    most of those ANTHRAX letters ended up in NYC..

    what a joke Rudy is...

    ohh shoe bomber....cant forget that one Rudy....he should work on his lisp.

  • Why are the conservatives trying to rewrite history? And better yet, why do people actually believe them?

  • This isn't the first time the right wing has tried to rewrite history. Since the 70s right-wingers have been trying to rewrite history to claim the New Deal failed miserably and extended the Great Depression (Lol), that Ronald Reagan had the best economic record of any president (LMAO), and that Democrats have always and uniformly been opposed to Civil Rights while Republicans have always been staunch supporters of Civil Rights (Rofl).

  • How in the hell did Rudy forget 9/11? I thought those were the only words in his vocabulary!

  • Going to Republicans for advice on fighting terrorism is like asking Charles Manson for advice raising teenage daughters.

  • And there wasn't a bank bailout on Bush's watch to!!!!! And Irac had WMD'S!!!! And god really did talk to Bush!!!!and .......Does anyone have some tea?

  • You know what Rudy I used to have a lot of respect for you, I guess you had a better script writer 8 years ago. Of course I thought your running for President was ridiculous but still I thought you did I fine job getting New York back on track, but I guess that was just the people that you surrounded yourself with.

  • wow!!! what a stupid pin head!

  • 9/11, Anthrax attacks, the Shoe Bomber, those didn't happen under Bush? Rudy is such a tool bag.

  • People like Rudy want America to forget Osama Bin Laden, the fact that BUSH NEVER caught him, or even solved the (Military grade) ANTHRAX attacks. They think Americans are morons.

  • How's that War on Drugs going? We wrap that one up?

  • lolwut?

    The months before 9/11 Bush took no action against terrorism. This led to 9/11. In no way was this clintons fault.

    And what about the shoe bomber?

  • Hey, to be fair to tehant, he's a total lying douchebag piece of shit.

  • Can I have some of whatever your smoking?

  • OMG! I can't believe Gulliani can be this stupid, no domestic terrorist attacks when Bush was president? Well let me see, there was the shoe bomber, thats one, antrax postal attacks, two and lets not forget the biggest one of all 9/11! HE WAS THE MAYOR THERE AT THAT TIME!. how can anyone with a brain believe this stupid, dumb conservative liar! one of many conservatives i might add!

  • these republican are secretly rooting for a big terrorist attack on america so that they can just eliminate all personal freedoms and perpetuate endless wars.

  • Why are Republicans such assholes. Giuliani is a cross dresser that's been divorced like 55 times. Then all the in-the-closet-gay pedophiles like Haggard (Bush's "spiritual" advisor. Pffssh....Curtis, Foley, Larry "Wide Stance" Craig....the list goes on and on. Fucking weirdo scum. The "Family Values" Party.......riiiight.......SIC­K FUCKS ALL OF 'EM !!!!! Lying SCUM !!!!!

  • cenk your such a tool. right and left are the same you fools....

  • .

    RUDY GIULIANI YOU DUMB ASS

    You couldn't even hold the attention of a crowd when you ran for president you loser.

    Then you back stabbed your own party when you lost you creep. Give us all a gift and go away.

    .

  • Rudy should be mayor of Wasilla, Alaska and nothing more

  • He could be major for hillary's fatass..

    Something NOONE WANTS.

  • The Middle aged Turd is still a douchebag. How does he still spew his ignorance? What a moron

  • no domestic attacks under bush?........what a fuckin idiot

  • Giuliani is a moron, he forgives bush for 9/11, but not Obama for the Fort Hood Shooting, even though they happened relatively 2 months after each one's becoming President.... the latter was more of a sympathy shooting by a nut, rather than an organized terrorist campaign

    He doesn't even "believe" in blowback... bastard should choke already

  • Oh, and This is probably a distraction interview mto keep us from paying attention to something relevant. They aren't fooling anybody.

  • wow this isn't biased....

  • I don't know if I would count the D.C. Sniper as a domestic terror case. It wasn't a real case of terrorism, it was more of a serial killer, though he wasn't really a serial killer because he was doing it for a specific reason; he was trying to accomplish something through the murders. The guy was doing it to throw the police off his case for a murder he commited.

    the whole thing might have had people scared but it wasn't terrorism.

  • @jimbrown257 - The point of terrorism is to make people scared. The klan were/are terrorists. Our shock and awe tactics against the Iraqis could be labeled terroristic. Terrorists don't come in any one shape or form. Everyone can be a terrorist.

  • @lovingit1000

    Yes. ITS EASY!

    Just get a gun or at least some cold weapon and go on a rampage. Or even easier is to just send messages around. Bad ones.

    The bad fact is... after 9/11 there is no brake for terrorists. Before that terrorists were small time criminals.

  • @4life4win - The first WTC bombing was not small time. Clinton even left Bush a memo saying BIN LADEN INTENDING TO ATTACK AMERICA. The Republicans were focused on blow jobs before 9/11.

    Bush was on vacation more than any other president leading up to 9/11.

    For Bush's last year, his explanation for everything was...the next president has to deal with it. Obama has been working his arse off compared to Bush and you GIVE BUSH A PASS ON 9/11?

    Give me a break!!

  • @lovingit1000

    Did you read it correctly. I said terrorists were small time criminals BEFORE 9/11. They simply put bombs to places, that werent so important. And they were ,like mafia, big threat to civilian security, NOT the biggest trheat to a country.

  • @4life4win - And I said the FIRST wtc bombing in the 1990s WAS NOT SMALL TIME!!!!!!

  • @lovingit1000

    Oh. I have read and heard about it, yet that incident was total fail in terrorists part.

    Thats why I consider it small time.

    If they managed to kill thousands of people in WTC in 1990, then that would be big. Yet they failed and people got lucky

  • @4life4win - over 1000 people were injured in that attack. That should have been a wake-up call.

    You are really give GW credit for something he doesn't deserve credit for.

    You are excluding the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

    Bush was given a pass with the shoe bomber and this was after 9/11...heck I don't even blame Bush for the shoe bomber.That's why this blame of Obama is ridiculous.

    Obama would not have gotten a pass with 9/11 from the same people giving Bush a pass for 9/11.

  • @lovingit1000

    Bush got screwed over with his own antics and his own governments backstabbin. THey only focused how do dominate over those arabs who have become arrogant. And Katrina was like a wake up call, that they forgot their own land in the process of accusing others.

  • @4life4win - Could you answer this question for me? In your heart, do you think the people who are excluding 9/11 from Bush's watch would have done the same if it had happened under Obama's watch (everything else being the same)?

  • @lovingit1000

    Of course they would not do the same!

    Why? Bush is totally different to Obama.

    If those American democrats would exclude 9/11 thing from Bush era, then they would blame Obama every minute of their lifetime. And republican people would exclude that and blame someone else in failure. Thats the way it goes. Stupidly but it goes.

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    It is really just semantics but I think the word terrorist gets thrown around haphazardly sometimes. Often as mere slander when someone doesn't like someone else, like the way people used the word "communist" to attack the reputation of their enemies in the 50s, regardless of whether or not they fit the definition of the word.

    Of course, I am not trying to defend the D.C. Sniper. When words are used too often in the incorrect context they lose their intended meaning and power.

  • @jimbrown257 Thats true.

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    Btw, I agree with everything else you said; "shock and awe" sounds a lot like "terrorize".

    Also, I love the euphamism "freedom fighter" which is basically what a terrorist calls himself.

  • You can't really say that, jimbrown, because ALL terrorists have complicated motives. Its a myth that "Muslim" terrorists are motivated simply by Jihad. Counter-terrorism specialists can tell you about it.

  • No, I am not defing terrorism as just Muslims on a Jihad; whatever the motives of any terrorist for doing what they do, they do those things to intimidate. I agree they all have motives outside of mere random bullying.

    What the D.C. sniper did was not to intimidate people; what he did was to cover up something.

    Terrorists will, for political reasons or whatever, try to intimidate someone into doing what the terrorist wants. The Sniper was doing no such thing.

    Does that make sense?

  • Abdulmutallab wasn't trying to blow his own genitals off to get you to do something. There were deeper motivations there. And the DC snipers (or at least Muhammad) were A)Muslim and B)taking revenge on a country they blamed for racism and anti-Muslim actions. So, in the complicated, non-black and white world, they were similar. Read Jessica Stern's 5 myths about who becomes a terrorist as a starting point.

  • You know what, I just read up on the Sniper case. I had thought it was just a cover-up; I guess Malvos statements like (his aim was to) ""set up a camp to train children how to terrorize cities" and "to shut things down across the United States" could be used to argue that it was an act of terror, to say the least.

    I did not know that part of the case; I thought it was just an elaborate cover-up (though they did try to argue at one point).. I concede.