Elijah Muhammad messenger of Allah or Satan?

[4Xderrick]

Must see: noi.org/sd2012/keynote/

[4Xderrick]

To all who would see this video, see Minster Farrakhan's Saviour's Day address at this link: noi.org/sd2012/keynote/  and formulate your own opinion based on your divine ability to reason for yourself.

[VoyageIslam]

@4Xderrick Malcolm X: In Black and White.:watch?v=cW5bj6Yvj6w

[4Xderrick]

@VoyageIslam

Seen it. Have you seen above said link in my previous comment?

[VoyageIslam]

@4Xderrick There are video's of Farrakhan here on youtube from the 90's where you can actually see me in the audience. I regret every minute I wasted studying that garbage. Today I am far too busy studying Islam to be distracted by Louis Farrakhan (I will call him Farrakhan because that name has nothing to do with Islam.)

[4Xderrick]

@VoyageIslam

The link was provided for uninitiated viewers of this video who may have never heard Minister Farrakhan. I only wanted to know if you've seen it. I cherish every nano-second that I studied the life giving teaching of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

[VoyageIslam]

@4Xderrick I understand you are looking for the gullible. Any time you feel like addressing this video with a video response I welcome it. As you have probably noticed I have addressed nearly every question you ever asked me in this series. And proven Elijah to be undeniably contrary to what the Qu'ran and ahadith say. Is Farrakhan still defending Qadaffi? I can give you several links of Libyan Muslims testifying to his tyranny some as young as 15.

[4Xderrick]

@VoyageIslam

If we're going to swap comments, let's try to stay on topic and focus on one thing at a time. As you have noticed I have never failed to give an opposing point of view to anything you have tried to address in your vids no matter how ludicrous your assertions. I have also tried to answer every question you have asked, 'though some of them were purposely leading and loaded questions. The Holy Qur'an is a testimony of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, if you only knew.

[VoyageIslam]

@4Xderrick I have no desire to treat you as though you are on the intellectual capacity of a Muslim when you follow a man who said Allah can die. If you have anything to say make a video response.

[4Xderrick]

@VoyageIslam

Nice try. As I said, loaded/leading questions and statements. The Messenger never said that Allah could die. You love to over-simplify what the Messenger teaches, using strawman arguments, and evading those topics you have problems disputing by using insults to divert to other subjects. I believe it's because you don't have the intellectual capacity to challenge the Messenger's teaching directly.

Suppose I don't have a camera...

[VoyageIslam]

@4Xderrick Yes, Elijah Poole the liar did say Allah does not live forever (i.e. he can die),

Words of Elijah Muhammad, Reprinted from Our Saviour Has Arrived, Chapter 19

Allah, in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad, to Whom praises are due forever, taught me that there are not any gods Who live forever.

[4Xderrick]

@VoyageIslam

As far as looking for the gullible, I have faith in each individuals ability to reason for themselves what is right and what isn't.

[tomhikooo]

REMEMBER PEOPLE THE BLIND WILL LEAD THE BLIND INTO THE DITCH.THIS GUY JUST WANTS RATINGS.

[hombrelubinero]

@tomhikooo Though I'm an agnostic that respects the world's religions I do however take exception not only to not respect the nation of islam but to go out of my way to expose their racist agenda. I listen to voyageislam & I hear universal truths that I've heard in many religious arenas & must say his wisdom is clarity & his delivery is kind. I would be honored to have him as a neigbor because of his warmness.As for you the best you could ever expect from me is a swift kick in the crotch

[hombrelubinero]

Voyageislam I agree with most of what you're are saying except for the part where you call the ppl of the nation of islam upright. You couldn't be more wrong on that. The core beliefs are hideously evil. They believe that master Fard & Elijah are flying around in a spaceship waiting for the perfect moment to exterminate the white race. The noi is a racist cult with not an upright person within their ranks.I've received death threats from them. Other than that a good video. Cheers

[VoyageIslam]

@hombrelubinero As salam alaikum, I called them upright in their cleanliness and soberness not their aqeedah. From what I have seen they do not drink, smoke or use drugs but their belief is kufr (non-belief) watch the entire video brother. :)

[hombrelubinero]

@VoyageIslam I don't even drink tea & they call me all sorts of insults & stereotypes only for the color of my skin. I'm up to minute 40. I want to know what minute that piece from Farrakhan came out on the vid where he says ''Fard is not the originator of the heavens and earth'' therefore not a god of any sort. Shukran .

keep up the good work

[VoyageIslam]

@hombrelubinero As salam alaikum, I am not sure I am understanding your request correctly but here is the original video of Farrakhan stating W.D. Fard is not the originator of the heavens and the earth.

W. Deen Mohammed and Louis Farrakhan Interview

watch?v=328DMQ7TGrs

Sorry, for the delay I had to search for the video.

[hombrelubinero]

@VoyageIslam How nice, thank you so much.Cheers from sunny Spain

[tomhikooo]

@hombrelubinero YOU ARE ANOTHER FOOLISH MAN.TELL US WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT KILLING ANYBODY.IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIS PERSONAL LIFE ITS BECAUSE HES MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT YOU TOOK OUT OF CONTEXT.AS FAR AS THE WHEEL IN THE SKY,IT IS THERE AN IT IS REAL.YES ALLAH TELLS ABOUT THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL AN MENTIONS HIM AN HAD PLANNED THE DEVILS DESTRUCTION BEFORE HE EVEN CAME INTO EXISTANCE.SO BE A GOOD BOY SO WHEN YOU DIE YOU WILL GO TO HEAVEN,HAPPY EASTER AN MERRY X-MAS FOOL

[hombrelubinero]

@tomhikooo The core beliefs of the nation of islam calls for the extermination of the white race by bombardment from the mother plane & it's 1500 support vessels. The noi teaches that the moon was seperated by a black sientist 66 tril.yrs ago with high explosives. Why were such beliefs put forth by poole? In order to fool ignorant uneducated blacks back in the 30's. It's still working proving you haven't advanced at any level above the post depression era. You believe rubbish,pure rubbish

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

Traditional religion/politic such as Islaam is imperialist in tradition and is generally against universal Black unity. The more foolish Black people, such as you, who accept the religion of their slave masters (Islaam) the better it is for the imperialist religion/political heads of white power.

You must know that universal white power will be destroyed from the face of the earth 100%

YOUR RELIGION/POLITIC OPERATES UNDER THE CORRUPTION OF WHITE POWER AND IT TOO WILL BE DESTROYED

[VoyageIslam]

@JusBeCuzz People who follow Elijah Pool usually identify Islam in correlation to U.S. perceptions which is a very narrow small minded perception. Islam is not represented by imperialist like Ghadaffi who was tyrant and good friend of Louis Farrakhan who still supports him. Islam is defined by Muhammad Ibn Abdullah of Arabia who was the final prophet and messenger from Allah. Muhammad operated under Allah's power and Islam is the religion for all mankind and is eternal.

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

White power and it's corrupt rule (religion/politics) will be utterly destroyed, simply put. There are "enlightened" individuals such as yourself, but that will never stop the coming of YAHWEHU to destroy the wicked rulers in high places.

Now you may say the laws of YAHWEHU (through, Gabri-El) are not be imperialist in origin, but the corrupt rulers use the law (religion) to practice imperialism. This is very real and will be put to an end at the return of righteous rule.

[VoyageIslam]

@JusBeCuzz If you want to learn about Islam here are some names for you: Dawud Adib, Siraj Wahhaj, Zaid Shakir, Khalid Yasin. Here are some names to avoid: DREW ALI, ELIJAH POOLE, DR. MICHAEL YORK.

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

All I need to know is my history. 6000 years ago YAHWEHU established the mystery schools of Egypt and the 360 neters also the 36 neters and the 33 neters/degrees (in which the white races use to build secret societies upon 33 degrees).

YAHWEHU taught his descendants the laws of his religion 6000 years ago and kept the true religion secret from the invading "semites", thus they practice a corrupt version of YAHWEHU's religion, some called Jews others called Arab moslems.

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

YAHWEHU's descendants inhabited the land of Israel but were pushed out at the overwhelming of invading "semites". They then inhabited Egypt but then fled from Roman persecution. They then in inhabited parts of West Africa and were then enslaved. They were known as the Hebrew Israelites because they were the direct descendants of YAWHEHU and his Elohim. They became the lost tribes of Israel and forgot their religion, which YAHWEHU gave to them (us).

[VoyageIslam]

@JusBeCuzz The children of Israel were banished for worshiping Idols your idol is your skin.

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

You accept anything white folks tell you? smh Your people are a great people, you can't accept the "semite" claim of your linage of Abraham's seed.

[VoyageIslam]

@Ju My people are the Muslims I link to individuals who are guided by the light of the Qu'ran regardless of their color. I am not a part of an African tribe or any other tribe like yours.

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

But this is where it is very hard for you to accept: That the Israelites already had a religion given to them by YAHWEHU and Mohammed (Arabia) was taught his history and religion. But today it is corrupt beyond recognition. You do not have the original Koran nor do you have the history of your fathers. You cannot reject the teachings of YAHWEHU because that's where Islaam comes from.

[JusBeCuzz]

@VoyageIslam

You cannot ignore the circumstances in which YAHWEHU set up his religion and mystery schools in which the white race only has 33 degrees out of 360.

YAHWEHU's laws and teaching was never spook teaching.

WHITE PEOPLE (IMAMS) TEACH SPOOKISM BECAUSE THE TRUE RELIGION OF YAHWEHU WAS HIDDEN FROM THEM. THEY WERE AND ARE FOLLOWING SUPERFICIAL PRACTICE AND VAINLY SAY THAT YAHWEHU IS A SPOOK. YAHWEHU IS NOT A SPOOK.

[VoyageIslam]

@JusBeCuzz If you want to learn about Islam here are some names for you: Dawud Adib, Siraj Wahhaj, Zaid Shakir, Khalid Yasin. Here are some names to avoid: DREW ALI, ELIJAH POOLE, DR. MICHAEL YORK.

[tomhikooo]

shut up

[r16txmvh]

hypocrates this are the FITNA coming to the ummah..

[all4salam]

You are noooooo different than the suit wearing, bible toting, white loving christian Tom. Farrakhan only puts these devils on blast and Toms like you will defend your Master with your very life. It's 2012 man let go of that spook in the sky cracker religion. LOL make sure you say AMEN really loud and proud after your Salah lol

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam Umm excuse me if I am wrong but doesn't Farrakhan wear a suit and tote a Bible? Farrakhan agrees with me W.D. Fard was not the originator of the heavens and the eart so, he can not be Allah. Your words demonstrate your arrogance and ignorance. You didn't even watch the video. Muslims o not say Amen we say Amin...have you ever even been o a masjid?

[tomhikooo]

I hope you wake up.YOU ARE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN UNCLE TOM.IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT HOLDS THE BLACK RACE BACK WITH YOUR IGNORANCE AN FOOLISHNESS.STOP MAKING VIDEOS AN BECOME A LEARNED STUDENT.ALLAH PLEASE FORGIVE HIM FOR HIS AN ALSO MY IGNORANCES

[VoyageIslam]

@tomhikooo Address the facts in the video or better yet grow a pair and make a video response but please spare me the rhetoric I do not need a lesson in Blackness from a man wearing an imitation Italian suit.

[tomhikooo]

@VoyageIslam I could choke you with the pair I got fake hum de lo uncle tom ass nigger

[VoyageIslam]

Your comment it illustrates the true academic peaceful nature of the followers of Elijah Poole and I agree the followers of Elijah Poole are very violent towards Blacks who have the audacity to call it as we see it. As a matter of fact the NOI only exempts violence exclusively towards Black people while talking trash against so-called "White Devils" and not lifting a finger against them. It is obvious the true devil is not every White man but every true believer in Elijah Muhammad.

[tomhikooo]

@VoyageIslam WHO HAVE YOU RAISED FROM THE DEAD.HOW MANY FOLLOWERS DO YOU HAVE.YOUR NUMBER OF FOLLOWERS SHOWS HOW MUCH FISHING YOU HAVE DONE.NOBODY LIKE YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR DEVILISH TACTIC.IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET VIEWERS YOU ATTACK OTHERS AN NOT JUST ANYBODY BUT A GREAT LEADER AMONG BLACK PEOPLE WHOS BEEN AROUND BEFORE YOU WERE SPERM.HE CALLED 1 MILLION BLACKS TO COME TOGETHER IN PEACE AN TO TEACH US GREAT THINGS.WHO THE HELL ARE YOU.YOU ARE WHATS REFFERRED TO AS A IGNORANT SELL OUT HOUSE NIGGER

[all4salam]

I think that you make too many attacks on the The Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Before his teachings were taught in the African communities, there was little or no Islamic presence there. Although his teachings are far from orthodox Islam, he still laid the frame work for discipline, and self reliance for African communities in this nation. Also this man is long gone from this earthly plane, and you want to attack him. How bout formulate solutions to the problems Black face.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam Elijah Muhammed had nothing to do with Islam I post these video's so uninformed Americans, (since the NOI is barely heard of outside of the USA), will not get confused. Blacks could solve ll our pwn problems by accepting Islam and staying away from entertainers like Farrakhan.

[all4salam]

@VoyageIslam Are you serious? "Entertainers" like Farrakhan are standing up to this Beast Man, and also empowering our people. The NOI has done more for Black people in this country than your White Masters in Saudi with their billions of oil dollars! You point fingers at Christians but you are in the same boat as them as well. Instead of the Bible you have a Qur'an, instead of European dress you have Arabic.

[all4salam]

@all4salam Judaism, Christianity and Islam is ALL stolen from the land of Kemet(ancient Egypt). Yes even your "sacred" holy book comes from the Nile Valley. At the end of your supplications, du'as, and salah you ALL say AMEN, from Amen Ra, the hidden God. Yet you ALL think that your God and your books are unique lol.

[all4salam]

@all4salam But here you are a Black man putting down another Black man, while our people are starving, dying, and incarcerated daily. Face it your White Arab Masters are devils like his European cousins. The Muslim Arabs started the damn slave trade many hundreds of years before the European got into the game. You will call your own mother a kaffir cause this Arab Devil told you that she was, thats just plain sick. I'm glad I left that silly thinking alone a long time ago.

[VoyageIslam]

Go to Cambodia or even Eastern Europe Blacks are not the only people in the world starving the reason why the NOI strives only with Western Negroes is because it caters to your selfish self centered culture. And if the Arabs started the slave trade and you say the original Arabs were Black that means we started the slave trade right? My mother accepted Islam but my everyone else in my family is a kaffir but they are people of the book and Christians are closer to Islam than Elijah.

[all4salam]

@VoyageIslam You sir live a single dimension reality. You seem to believe that I'm a member of the NOI. I'm not. I think religions are silly personally I was a devout Muslim for over 15 years until I WOKE THE F*^K up. Your Qur'an is plagiarism of the Torah, Gnostic texts, the Babylonian Talmud, the Gospel, and Christian Apocrypha. Jesus and Mary is not a unique story neither in the Gospel nor the Qur'an. Nor is the story of Shaitan or Jinns.

[all4salam]

@all4salam The STORY of Miriam and Isa is non other than the story of Horus and Isis. Isis being the Virgin Mother of Horus. Shaitan comes from the Egyptian Deity Set. The way you even make salah is inscribed on the walls in Kemet today, before Ibrahim and his 76 kinsmen came into Egypt escaping famine. You need to do some research outside of your comfortable Sunni circle of "scholars".

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam Ansarullah rhetoric that has been floating around since the 1980's. Hebrew Israelites are 10 levels beneath Farrakhani's and to be quite honest some of the silliest Black olk in the world.

[all4salam]

@VoyageIslam It isn't rhetoric when you could go to the Egypt and see the similarities between what was on the walls and tombs, and what you the 3 great monotheistic faiths teach. Just be honest, you want to be a Arab don't you??? AND FYI NOI members have never threatened to behead infidels, blow buildings and people up, kill apostates of their faith, or committed any acts of terrorism.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam I'm not a sir the term sir was formulated by the British and used to distinguish it's best conquers and crusaders. I have been a Muslim 20 years 10m of those 20 years I have lived in a Muslim country I have seen confused negroes like you come nd go every religion has it's hypocrites. The Qu'ran and torah have the same author how can Allah plagiarize a book he wrote? Muslims follow Muhammad pbuh not Mary stop being lazy, watch this entire video and post something relevant.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam I guess that's why Allah destroyed Kemet all praise to him.

[all4salam]

@VoyageIslam How did Allah destroy Kemet when the Great Pyramids of Giza, Kephra( the Sphinx), and obelisks and great tombs are still here as a testament to time. Way before the Jewish people entered Africa these structures predate their arrival by thousands of years. How did Allah destroy Kemet, when after your prayers you give homage to the Egyptian Deity Amen - Ra as well as Christians and Jews.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam Kemit (a pagan culture) is inhabited mostly by followers of Muhammad pbuh and it's only attractions are it's artifacts and relics such as the great pyramid which is no more than the worlds largest tomb stone. You sound like a former follower of Malachi York read the Qu'ran and you will see pharaoh the king of Egypt get no "homage" as you put it. The very fact that his corpse wasn't even allowed to remain in it's grave testifies to his humiliation.

[all4salam]

@VoyageIslam there were countless pharaohs who ruled over Kemet. The Qur'an only mentions one Pharaoh. And you should also research the etymology of the word pagan. You are an Uncle Tom who prefers an Arab Master over a European one.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam All of the Pharaoh's were practiced sun and ancestor worship they were pagans and built the pyramids that you praise off of their own arrogance and the enslavement of Africans. I am sorry if the word pagan confused you since you claim o be Muslim from now on I will use a word you understand KAFIR. Many Arabs are kafirs too Islam is in the belief not the color unlike you I denounce racism.

[all4salam]

@VoyageIslam I don't follow any MAN made religions they are all silly personally. I know a lot of people need that type of thing in their life to give them some comfort in this confusing world. And as far as I know only man writes books. Whether you want to say Allah, Jehovah , Jesus "inspired" man to write the scriptures is readily up for debate. Non of the characters of the Bible existed, therefore non of the characters in the Qur'an existed except for Muhammad.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam If you do not follow any man stop extolling the kair pharaoh's. What man wrote the Qu'ran in your opinion give me concrete evidence not speculation. I want a source! I agree with you Jesus never existed but Isa did.

[VoyageIslam]

@VoyageIslam NOI do not kill threaten to kill they DID kill Malcolm X, Clarence 13 X and lets not forget they formed the Black mafia which drowned little Black babies in bathroom sinks in the name of W.D. Ford not to mention the Zebra murders committed by NOI members and John Muhammad the D.C. sniper was also NOI. None of the acts you mentioned are condoned in Qu'ran you were Muslim 15 years and never learned the difference between race and religion..that's just sad.

[VoyageIslam]

@all4salam Farrakhan never appears before anything except Black audiences so when you say he stands up in front of the beast do you mean African Americans? He is not empowering Blacks he is stealing your money and selling you fairy tales. Sui Arabia did not even exist in the time of Muhammad and you have not heard me mention them once. Why don't you dress the subject matter of the video and stop blowing smoke? Arabic dress? Don't you teach Arabs are Black?

[juniid]

as salaamu 'alaykum

May Allaah reward you brother, keep up the good work.

[VoyageIslam]

@juniid Wa likum as salam wa tabaraka' Llah