ACE E I RI N [Guile] vs ikboy [Cammy] SSF4 Japanese Online Ranked Matches - TRUE-HD

[Goten1986]

This matchup is hell for Cammy, almost as bad as fighting Balrog. >_<

[SithLordRagnos]

@OneManArmy519: I'd like to think he has Guile's voice set to Japanese for a bit of added colour in these matches, especially when Guile's dominating a supposedly-top-tier character in less than 2 minutes.

[Morden101]

i tend to feel guilty spamming SBs to keep annoying Cammy players at bay. not anymore though! :)

[SithLordRagnos]

@OneManArmy519: SPILAL ALLOE, CAN O'SPRITE, SPEEN KNAHKAL, SMATHEL.

Plus, you're using a Japanese voiceover for a British secrent agent. There are no excuses for that.

[SithLordRagnos]

@OneManArmy519: No excuses; you're a weeaboo.

[BoysBoysBoysify]

Because Street Fighter is srs.❤

[rinneganhero]

why such long comments?

[Jayybumm]

Whys he so good =] he probably the only Guile player i look up to. Hes too legit.

[Shottagon]

0:43 pow right in the kisser!

[dnl303]

real good players spam every button before the match starts

[VeNOM3099]

@dnl303 Than I must be gdlk... LOL!! 

[RaymondLau123]

soliddd

[fadecy]

Guile is such a thought provoking character. To boom or not to boom. Oh wait...

SONIC BEWM SONIC BEWM SONIC BEWM

[cougher989]

@fadecy

Your mom is thought provoking.

[antzenpro3]

ANDDDDDD ladies and gentleman... this is why I hate guile with such a passion lol

[Karma3500]

I play cammy and I fckin hate guile, with a burning passion, I feel ikboy's pain lol

[SonicSoldier28]

if gameouttt has passed to adon definitely....ACE E I RI N is the best guile

[THTB614]

0:43

"KO!!!!!!!!!" is right. Goddamn, Guile.

[MrWannabeKorean]

i cant wait for AE for the nerfed Guile.........

[bandkaih]

@MrWannabeKorean ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY!! not taking anything away from ace but guiles recovery is soo fast its bullshit

[XNDL44]

When i see a Street Fighter match under 2 minutes i know it was a two round sweep

[0GameOverrrr0]

Ace is a beast no doubt!

But I whant to see some more Gameoutttt.;).Hope he hasnt quit playing, been a while since I saw him in action!

[EBCX]

wow so many haters, putting dislike in the videos and stuff, i hate to say it but the street fighting community is becoming worse with the pass of the years

[0ShinAkuma0]

4 people get destroyed by scrubby guile players in endless. Lol.

[0ShinAkuma0]

@0ShinAkuma0 make that 8 people.

[chris24the1]

@0ShinAkuma0 ohoh we gained 1 more lol

[albertobankai]

@0ShinAkuma0 make that 9 people

[hune182]

I think Cammy must of killed Charlie because Guile was out for vengeance in this video.... 

[azngamer16]

Every time I watch ACE I just scream AMERICA...FUCK YEAH!

[mickdo8640]

Man how does one rush down the impenetrable wall that is Guile.

[E1N9A8N0DA]

Guile thought he was facing Dictator, and had no mercy.

[ragonomics]

Shin, I didn't see a Street Fighter Match, looked more like a murder.

[SithLordRagnos]

Why is it that, no matter how many times people tell me Cammy doesn't suck, that only two (?) tournament players ever use her?

[Jmal51]

@SithLordRagnos Cammy has a ridiculously fast walk speed, her combos do tons of damage and quick stun, her offense is probably the best in the game ( next to viper), and she builds meter really quickly. That is was Cammy doesn't suck.

[SithLordRagnos]

@Jmal51: Tons of damage? Are we talking about the same character?

I have never seen a Cammy that does even half the things you're talking about. Even if they are true, why isn't she more popular, as she is apparently more powerful than SSF4 Guile and Honda combined?

[Jmal51]

@SithLordRagnos I don't know where you got the "she is apparently more powerful than SSF4 Guile and Honda combined" part from, but I'm going to end the debate with this. Look up "Alioune Sensei" on youtube. I'd suggest looking up "The Best of Alioune" in particular. After viewing this, you'll know exactly why Cammy is a great character, and why everyone is saying so.

[Jmal51]

@SithLordRagnos and btw, she isn't more popular because she isn't easy to learn. Similar to C. Viper.

[SithLordRagnos]

@Jmal51: Viper requires a hell of a lot more button presses (she has viable combos to boot), and Viper players are ten or twenty times more common then someone who actually tries using Cammy.

Regarding Alioune...okay, so there's a great Cammy player in Europe. There are good Hakan and DAN players too; it doesn't mean they're the best characters in the game...

[Jmal51]

@SithLordRagnos If you read my response thoroughly, you'd know that I never said that Cammy was the best character in the game. I said "she is a great character", which is what I assumed you didn't believe. The point is that Cammy is a beast ass character regardless of her popularity, she just takes time to learn. If you still don't see that, then I cant convince you. lol

[SithLordRagnos]

@Jmal51: Yeah, I don't believe she's a good character in terms of gameplay.

She has a grand total of three ways around fireballs, and they're all VERY punishable.

The majority of her practical combos do very little damage, and, again, are very punishable.

I appreciate what you're trying to do, but she has a lot of trouble keeping up with the rest of the cast. Generally speaking, even Makoto has an easy time against her.

[THTB614]

@SithLordRagnos Makoto has an easy time against Cammy?

LOL stop trolling dude. Cammy destroys Makoto, outright, in Super. And a lot of characters wish they had her walkspeed, oki setups, and damage/stun output. I honestly think you've never gone up against a good Cammy before.

[SithLordRagnos]

@THTB614: Well, I've never seen a good Cammy either, so there's that...

[SithLordRagnos]

@SithLordRagnos: *in a tournament

[Jmal51]

@THTB614 Exactly! Sithlord must be smoking on something serious if he thinks Cammy's bad. I've never debated with someone who's so out of the loop. lol

[yahoo1o1]

@SithLordRagnos a lot of people switched to cammy on console version. kindevu, yoshiwo and i believe that blanka player mezutoro or whatever. there's just no footage of them, but cammy is very popular in this version. remember j wong used counter picks with her

[SithLordRagnos]

@yahoo1o1: Forgive me for saying so, but if there isn't even a sliver of footage of this apparent popularity, I find it a little hard to believe.

[yahoo1o1]

@SithLordRagnos well what do you expect, this version is a home version, not many tournies of it in japan. not many footage either, unless uploaded on a replay list, the fact is many people used cammy on ssf4. check ggs online to see kindevu using her

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 The only people successful using Cammy are still only Alioune and Sako. You'd be hard pressed to name any other decent Cammy player. As for Kindevu, he's had like no success whatsoever using Cammy.

Imo Cammy is very good in super, but not the top tier character she's made out to be. She has more bad matchups than people seem to think.

[yahoo1o1]

@nekoken88 this statement is so flawed. there is no home version ssf4 tournies in japan, so to say kindevu has had no success proves nothing as you cant name any ssf4 tournies he has been in. only ggs(godsgarden) and he beat momochi and sakos cammy there in a mirror 3-1 i think. alioune is a westerner, sako HAD to go to the west, or else it'd be the same as kindevu. you cant comment on cammy in japan when there are no console tournies. fact is a lot of japanese players switched to her

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 Err you should quit acting like you know what you're talking about. There've been NSB tournies and the like where console SSF4 was played in Japan. The only decent player repping Cammy there was Kindevu and his team didn't even place high. And GG2? Sure Kindevu somehow managed to beat Sako but didn't even make it past the qualifiers. NO SUCCESS. And it was 3-2 -_- Sako had to go to the west?what? He's dominated the likes of Momochi and even beaten Daigo in the GG tourneys,in Japan btw.

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 And also I like how you say that I can't comment on Cammy because there've been no ssf4 japan tournies to base it on and then go on to comment on how LOTS of japanese players switched to her. What are you basing that on if there are no japan console tourneys? lol

[yahoo1o1]

@nekoken88 i already gave you names of players that switched. ggs was only 1 tourney, and tokido nemo etc didnt make it out either, big deal. u cant call him a failure cos of 1 tourny, thats dumb. the fact is kindevu beat sako, momochi acqua etc. he got to the playoffs. nsb is only nogaya, which is where kindevu is. yoshiwo and mitzeteru are nearer tokyo. nsb doesnt represent everything japan. even nemo started using cammy as his secondary. i know cos they talk about these things on the ggstream

[yahoo1o1]

@yahoo1o1 sometimes, they dont play they just talk. and english speakers gootecks etc have been on asking questions. ssf4 didnt even get off the ground in japan. what ggs and nsb is only 2 tourneys, i can name u 2 tourneys that wong, daigo, mago, ortiz did poorly in, are they failures?? no, cos it means nothing and they had a chance to do better in others. a lot of top players didnt even touch ssf4, wao mdr ojisan boy etc but the ones who did recognized cammy was strong and picked her up

[yahoo1o1]

@yahoo1o1 btw i like how u say im trying to sound smart, when its u using all the faces, lols, and smartass stuff etc to make me look stupid and make yourself seem smart. keep it up

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 First of all. I don't get how I was trying to act smart for calling you out on your flawed logic.That aside. Kindevu is not a failure. Stop twisting my words.He has not had a good track record with cammy,I'm sure alot of people would agree about that. But that has nothing to do with his accomplishments with Rufus.To put it in your terms, if those amazing players you mention dropped their main for another character and produced not so amazing results what conclusion would you arrive at?

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 And yeah I've seen the vids of Nemo and Mizoteru using Cammy. But Nemo was still repping Chun hard till AE was out, and Mizoteru switched back to Blanka again right after he was seen using Cammy. And their Cammys weren't anything great anyway. My point still stands, the only success stories we have of Cammy are from Sako and Alioune. Sure some players may have picked her up, but they've not come close to doing anything with her that enforces her current top tier position.

[yahoo1o1]

@nekoken88 dude kindevu's rufus has been in tons of tournies, his cammy has only been in 2. your logic is flawed, how can you compare the 2? sako has used cammy since vanilla, kindevu only started at ssf4, and he got his super late. when mago switched to fei, everyone said his fei is not strong, he better switch to sagat. when he mastered fei, people called him best player in the world. kindevu got his ssf4 way after mago, and for that time his cammy took down sako, momo, thats impressive period

[yahoo1o1]

@yahoo1o1 nemo, ae is a dif game, new characters and cammy is weaker. people switch mains with new games. kindevu at nsb, went out to daigo/momochis team. ANY team can go out to that team, that shouldnt reflect on kindevu's cammy, that was his 1st tourny with cammy. again SSF4 had 0 tournies in japan. you can only name me 2 or 3. u basing a characters success on that amount of tounies is pathetic, and even worse, comparing it to a character (rufus) who was in 100s of tournies = flawed logic

[yahoo1o1]

alioune success is on xbl. his cammy has only been seen at 1 tourny, where he got destroyed by mago & tokido. are you really pairing online play with success rate? alioune = NAH, and he got wrecked by mago sako and tokido. kindevu's cammy took out sako and tokido. that = better success rate as alioune didnt even win the tournie EITHER. so your double standards amazes me. cos there's more footage of alioune owning online he's cammy has success? im sure if kinds cammy owned on yt it wuld = success

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 Alioune's beaten gamerbee in a best of 100, a set long enough to mean something, and won his team tourney scoring wins against both mago and tokido. He WON. A lot more than I can say for Kindevu. And this is a guy who's attended like one tourney. Kindevu's shown enough of his cammy, pretty much everyone agrees his cammy is more or less ass. And your only counter argument is "but he didn't lose that much!"

[boytanong]

@yahoo1o1 yow Troll you talk like Sanford Kelly :)

[yahoo1o1]

@boytanong not my fault sanford copies everything i do:)

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 Holy shit dude, you know who else switched to a new character in Super? Momochi, Mago? And each while having lost tournies did manage to have some wins too, which is completely not the case with Kindevu. He also used her in BBC quals where he got mauled before he switched to another character. Also he beat sako and momochi in a small set. That means nothing. Momochi beat him in the rematch for the tiebreaker. And he only managed to beat Sako in the first place cos he dropped his combo.

[yahoo1o1]

@nekoken88 nemo actually said cammy is his secondary character, why are you ignoring stuff you dont want to read. i told u this was said on ggstream, stop acting ignorant, he didnt just use her randomly. mago got owned at the 1st ggs with fei, it cos he had so much time to get it with fei, unlike nemo and kind who got ssf4 way after. i want u to get this straight, my point is SSF4 only had 2 tournies, everything else being said is irrelevant. u cant base a characters success on 2 tournies

[yahoo1o1]

@yahoo1o1 and now im going to call u out on not knowing what the hell your talking about. kindevu owned the BBC, up untill he met sako, where niether player played cammy at all. nice try. dude sako won the team tourny all by himself, go look it up. alioune won once again mago and tokido, and lost every other game. mago beat him like 27-12. tokido put aliounes ass in losers, where alioune had no sako to save him. kindevu actually beat sako and tokido in a tourny, not just win an odd game.

[yahoo1o1]

right, and we havent seen kindevus cammy in any long drawn out sets. which is my point, there is no footage of these players due to ssf4 being low on the tournament end. this was my initial point till u tried to butt in. ssf4 was never active, the only time it was kindevu beat acqua ibuki 3-1, momochi 3-0 and other impressive wins. so he didnt win the tourny big deal, alioune has never been in a tourny that high level. lets not forget kind did all of this with a character new to him.

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 Dude did you even watch the matches? He played Cammy at first always before he lost and eventually switched characters. The match against sako was the exception where he only picked her for lag check. He won with other characters. Seriously look up your stuff before you talk. And mago mauling Alioune in a very advantageous matchup comes as a surprise? How does that stack to Kindevu losing to Dhalsim in a 7-3 matchup favouring Cammy? And lol@ sako carrying alioune in teams.

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 There may have been very limited tourney exposure for super in japan. But taking that and the results from the rest of the world, and fine we can even say alioune sucks and count him out, leaving Sako as the sole Cammy champion. And Momochi started playing Ken about the same time or probably later than Kindevu. And tourney results aside people will also agree that his Ken is awesome even though it was a new character to him. But man this is going nowhere. I'm going to stop now.

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 Man show me some proof instead of heresay. Saying oh hey nemo said it in a gg stream doesn't prove shit. I could very well just counter that with "he said he was just kidding 5 minutes later though". SSF4 has had multiple NSBs and the GGs in japan. The only thing patchetic here is your lack of math skills. Cammy was barely represented let alone won. And ssf4 has also had tons of tournaments in the rest of the world. And Cammy had like zero repping outside of marlin pie.

[yahoo1o1]

@nekoken88 i already said nagoya represents nagoya. the players i named who switched are not from there. stop thinking nagoya represents all of japan. i already said kindevu just picked up cammy, even mago struggled when he switched to fei, he also lost to dhalsim in a match in his favour at the 1st ggs. he didnt make it past round one at gg 2.5 with fei. he got better cos he always had a 360 to master, unlike kindevu. kinde always switched after losing once, not cos his character struggled

[yahoo1o1]

@yahoo1o1 and momochis awesome ken got beaten by kindevus cammy 3-0. exactly my point. u base your stuff on youtube footage. or is it cos momo had the chance to come out to USA? kind's cammy would have owned if he ever went to usa. my point is we didnt get to see enough of his cammy, he either switches or plays someone else. but he has beaten the big names with cammy. if he had a chance to stick with the character we would have seen much better placings

[yahoo1o1]

oh so now alioune sucks? thats a big 360. why dont u stand by what u have been arguing about the past day. or is my point of view actually now making sense? whatever dude, my point wasnt who is good or not. i wasnt trying to pass of lies that cammy players are dominating. i was just saying some players picked up cammy but with limited footage we never got to see them. i was just putting it out there that cammy wasnt ignored, ok? i dont know why u even came @ me with all this success rate bs

[nekoken88]

@yahoo1o1 And I said Nemo repped Chun right upto AE, meaning he never used Cammy seriously before AE. Some vids where he puts on a crappy show with her doesn't mean he's picking her up. We have vids of Daigo and Tokido playing Cammy. And lol @ " there were zero tournies except maybe 2 or 3". Man i give up. you're right, naming 3 random players who were seeing using cammy in random YT vids must mean LOTS of jp players are switching to her. Undisputable logic right there. Carry on.

[Cuffss88]

Ace is pretty textbook with Guile, nothing fancy, but always effective. pretty basic sonic boom setups here. Ace's execution is almost always on point. I think Gameout is more aggressive and flashy, but is also an awesome Guile player

[0EricDaNerd0]

@Cuffss88 umm yeah.... you could say he is pretty textbook but only because he WROTE it. Ace is bloody Guile beast!

[yahoo1o1]

@Cuffss88 i dont agree gameout is more flashy or aggresive, but i havent seen his replays in a while so maybe you're right. ace has faced the tougher comp on youtube videos

[BlakDragon1]

GO HOME AND B*shot*

[Optitius]

1:38 equals rape involved.

[dominichokage]

Gameouttt is more interesting I think.

[619kammy]

Definitely Cammy's worst match-up

[SithLordRagnos]

@619kammy: Besides just about everyone.

[boytanong]

@619kammy I gotta agree man. I'm a cammy user myself. Killer has no choice but to get in and risk 50/50. You can't turtle against Guile because you'll eat his projectiles. I gotta say the match up is 7-3 in favor of William.

[plentypotential]

cannon spike...KO!

[jericovalentine]

This is the best Guile ive ever seen, thumbs up if you think so too!!!!!!!!!!!

[gaara1227]

And that, is how America gained its independence from England.

[millionaire345]

@gaara1227 from Britain :P

[0ShinAkuma0]

@millionaire345 Britain, Virginia?

[millionaire345]

@0ShinAkuma0 Britain, UK :D, certainly did not expect shinakuma himself to respond

[0ShinAkuma0]

@millionaire345 lol.. i just thought it was Great Britain. :P

[millionaire345]

@0ShinAkuma0 same thing really. :)

[treflip063]

@gaara1227 ROFL

[Disapproval]

@gaara1227 Fei vs. Guile must be the Cold War.

[fallen7ang]

@gaara1227 still laughing my ass out :D

[DanTheWarder]

Probably my favourite Guile going. That was methodical.

[TrueKlootviool]

No idea why, but cammy games are really boring to me.

Ace on the other hand saved this one :P

[moprix]

ass whoop'd :) gotta love guiles versatility despite of having only 2 specs <3

[hasooon666]

4th

[Maximusmw2]

first to like

[effinthebum]

I love watching Ace