Controversial Terry Wogan Interview on the Eurovision Debacle

[dirofreak]

"The british industry is brillant" Not in my book, and even less at ESC , they send kitch every year (mainly because their musical industry is also kitch, based on American music mainly), so they should not complain. that's a dislike from me.

[madabbafan]

Terry was able to call where at least half the 12 points were going each year. Now the jury has been brought back it isn't quite as bad but it has been years since the best song has won.

[showmoke]

@madabbafan I've thought for some time now that rather than the voting being anti-uk, it was more of an anti-wogan campaign. I mean let's face it, Wogan used the opportunity to take the piss out of the proceedings and the presenters of the show. You remember his comments about a couple of the presenters (Danish I think they were) about 10 years ago now. He called them 'Dr. Death and the tooth fairy'. I remember it very well. I must admit it was bloody hilarious, but didn't go down too well!

[ClintDuza]

@crazyboyxx Agreed, the British music industry is brilliant, though I think Finland and the U.S have damn good music industries too, Finland is the fastest growing at the moment. The U.K music industry shall decline I think in the next four years as the government invest less into it, which is a shame as U.K is one of the greatest countries for exporting its art in whatever form it is.

[AEF091]

Andy's song was shit though.

[BigEricHunt]

Wogan. Now you've established that an international conspiracy can dictate the result of a pathetic "light entertainment" song contest, perhaps you can open your eyes to the really important decisions around the world and see that David Icke's illuminati claims weren't so "preposterous" and "outlandish" after all....?

[ClintDuza]

@BigEricHunt David Icke would probably have come across as sounding a lot more down to earth if he had not gone on a rant about "the Royal family and other world leaders being shape shifting reptilian aliens" I saw that interview and at first I found it interresting and thought yeah this guy has an interresting theory, but when he started spewing that side of it, it kind of just made himself sound like a paranoid nut case...

[totes32]

who's us wogan....you english loving cunt.

[TheGoldStandardBoy]

@totes32 Grow up.

[andywrest]

Appalling that comments say the BBC buys its way to The ESC I'm sure we would be more than happy not to be one of the main contributors which without the BBC there would be no ESC

[amcintyre15]

Wogan speaks the truth, Eurovision is pointless. It is not about music at all. It is politics. Any slightly intelligent person can figure that out.

[patrickdraws]

In 1992 and 1993 it was so close between the UK and Ireland, but Ireland ended up winning both times, and it was so obvious that Wogie here was delighted. Lives in UK but still Irish at heart.

[patrickdraws]

Wogie was right. UK has no friends :( & no friends = no votes. Simple as!!

[ytorrejone]

Of course there is a strong political element in the ESC but various studies have come up with some interesting facts.Firstly,to win you have to get points from practically everyone,not only from your neighbours.And secondly,there have been 14 different winning countries in the last 14 years.Wogan seems to forget that the uk 'buy' their ticket to the final and this doesn't go down well with most of the other countries.

[showmoke]

Not quite sure what you mean by 'buy their ticket', but I tend to agree with everything that Wogan says. It's more of a politcal occasion which is heavily diguised as a song contest and the poor old contestants are just pawns in a political game. There may, however, have been an anti-Wogan feeling in the voting (and hence an anti-UK feeling) because maybe Wogan's p**s taking of the whole event did not go down very well with other countries!

[ytorrejone]

@showmoke The uk is one of the 'Big 4',along with France,Germany and Spain,who go straight into the final.Hence the 'buy their ticket'.And regarding Wogan's commentary,every country has their own commentary in their own language.What did you think?That all of Europe tunes in to bbc to listen to Wogan.Not by a long shot.

[showmoke]

Maybe not all the time, but I think that if someone from one country is bad mouthing or saying something detrimental about another country on the telly, then someone somewhere will find out and the word will spread. There's always a laywer lurking in the background somewhere looking for opportunities to sue for slander/libel etc. Not happened in Wogan's case with the BBC (yet), but I'm sure someone (maybe even journalists) monitor each others stations to see/hear what's being said.

[showmoke]

Remember his comments regarding the Danish (I think it was) presenters a few years ago, calling them 'Dr. Death and the Tooth Fairy', which I thought was extremely funny! I heard after that comment that the Danes refused him entry into their country (whether that's true ot not, I'm not sure). It may not be a coincidence that as soon as Wogan left, then voting for the UK improved enormously!

[sross85]

@ytorrejone

It's true to say that studies have shown that to win, you need points from everyone, but at the same time if you look at the 14 winning countries in the last 14 years, most have come from either the Baltic region, former USSR and the Eastern block.

I definatley think that the UK and the rest of the Big 4 should compete in the semi-finals. The fact they qualify due to their financial contribution is ridiculous.

[sross85]

@ytorrejone

I mean, in a song contest, a song should win or achieve a high placing purely on it's own merit and no other factor should come into it. Take Scooch for example, the UK were in the final with "Flying the Flag" when there were better songs that were eliminated in the semi-finals, it's simply not fair. I definately agree that the UK's Big 4 status, aswell as political voting, has hindered its chances.

[j4carroll]

if germany,france,spain and the UK failed to get in past the semi finals there wudnt be a eurovision song contest as most of these other countries wudnt be able to afford it.

[sross85]

That used to be the case but with over 30 competing countries the song contest would still go ahead. No Big 4 countries take part in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest yet that manages fine. Admitedly it's not on as a big a scale as the Eurovision itself, but it proves that a song contest could easily be produced without them.

[hinkyponky]

Terry telling it like it is!

[Museite]

He's right of course ...