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  • i fucking LOVE sonja and lucian theyre both awesome and badass! and i cant STAND viktor! -_- >:( i cant believe he killed sonja just bc she was in lvoe with lucian she was his daughter!

  • in this movie lucian kick teh ass of viktor...in teh first movie viktor are the powerfuck....why?

  • The werewolves don't have any pupils and are quadrupedal where as the lycans are bipedal and are shorter in height (If a pureblood werewolf stood up next to a lycan) both agile but lycans retain more in terms of brute strength where as Werewolves depend mainly on pounce and grapple tactics

  • question: I didn't understand this part at all. who were those people in chain? i was assuming they were the warewolves in human form... so why were the first generation warewolves who can't turn back into human form attacking them knowing that they are also warewolves just in human form. and how did Lucian change without a moon???????

  • @MusicLuv80 You need to watch all 3 movies in full! Human rulers offer the human in chain to the vampires as protection fee. So Raze (the black guy) isn't a lycan here, not yet. Lucian is a 2nd generation lycan, that's why he looks different from the attacking lycans, which are 1st generation created by William.

  • @helsinkisuomi I see, thanks. I did watched all 3 movies but its been a while. Need to rent them again and see them. Thanks for the answer.

  • @MusicLuv80 You're welcome. I think Lucian is also the first 2nd generation lycan. When you watch the movies, you'll hear Selene saying that lycans get more powerful as they get older and are not be affected by the moon. But the moon probably can still help because Lucian changes later in this movie after he was beaten and watched Sonja die.

  • @helsinkisuomi i see, but vampires get more powerful as they age too right? but I always wondered are lycans that much stronger than vampires where when they fight it is like lycans are fighting humans...

  • @MusicLuv80 Vampires should get more powerful as they age too! I can only remember Victor killing Raze and not other vampires killing lycans BAREHANDLY. This is probably something we should ask the people who created the characters (which includes the actor who plays Raze!).

  • @MusicLuv80 those were humans they wanted more slaves so they brought humans as prisoners to turn them into lucian's type of lycan.

  • Raze is a bad ass I wonder if he died in underworld

  • @MeskwakiBoi Yes he did. He was killed by Victor in Underworld.

  • raza deserve to drink alexander covinus blood.

  • Raze... hes so godly lol. Punched out a wolf.

  • Lucian>William

  • Who would you rather be a werewolf or Vampire or both like Sonyas child cuz I would be both lol

  • @Noluv3211

    Hybrid for sure, but between Vampire and Lycan I would choose Lycan as they seem the superior race.

  • they must of been fighting off the braindead 0bamabots/OWS protestors/0bama supporters *lol*

  • and second of all lycans and werewolves are completely different for example viktor is an elder vampire so the lycans are like elder werewolves except they are not that strong because there is a lot of them

    

  • first of all william was the first WEREWOLF not lycan

  • @SkittleMonsterr13 Williams breed were the werewolves ( everything that wasn't Lucian ) William infected other people and apparently may have bred some of them so they are there own race. Lucian is an werewolf evlove to turn into a human and is triggered to transform on the sight of the fullmoon. But as he got older was able to control the transformmation.

  • which 1 is the william breed??? the one on it's on???

  • wow seriously, Viktor doesn't even know that lucian wanted to save her and yet he just slaps him seriously?

  • you got balls when your a human and you beat the fuck out of a straight william werewolf

  • @trelujan

    It is such an awesome moment when Raze reveals himself in this scene.

  • you know it seems to me that the more wild the werewolves are. The more hair they have. lol

  • Why did Williams breed back off Lucian though?

  • William was white, why are these Lycans black?

  • @Jorsalfar he is an old lycan thats why even they age doesnt matter if they have immortality

  • @Jorsalfar First off , William`s Breed were Werewolves , not Lycans ! Lucian was The First Lycan , A Werewolf able to revert to Human Form and even retaining Some Human Intellect in Wolf Form ! Secondly , those Werewolves were African Slaves William turned hence their Coloration ! William was A Hungarian Albino !

  • Ohh Yeah i see the difference. So Lucian is like stronger than an average W. Breed wolf? and yeah the William breed looks much different from lucian.

    Just wondering but who would win a fight William or Lucian both in werewolf form?

  • @K3anuPlaysP1an0 definitely william. he's more ancient

  • @K3anuPlaysP1an0 william would win cause he is more powerfull

  • @K3anuPlaysP1an0 William.

  • @K3anuPlaysP1an0 william. I think the powerscaling of the elders is Alexander Corvinus>Markus>William>Lucian­>Viktor

  • @LoboFan1000 Alexander Corvinus>Hybrids>Markus(prehyb­rid=William>Victor=William's Lycans>Lucian. Alexander as first immortal. Markus and William were twins. Alexander's sons. One bit by bat, one by wolf. Victor was turned by Markus and William's lycans were turned by him. Lucian was first changeable lycan. His parents were turned by William.

  • @kenmctree after seeing awakening I would say you are mostly correct. I would just put Lucian above Victor since Lucian nearly killed him when they fought. Also that super Lycan from awakening would have to be the strongest character now

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