When juries, find the police are justified in entering homes without a warrant they don't relies that they are taking the fourth amendment away from their family, and away from themselves, and the police can do it over and over again and when they get in trouble they will just refer back to this case.
That same bullshit happened to me. I told the cops that they could not go in my house so they cuffed me and searched my house when I was the one that called them, BUT I HAD MY WEBCAM RECORDING AT THE TIME, HAHA. They charged me with obstruction, but the case was thrown out because of that video. I just wish I could have found a lawyer that wasn't scared to help me sue the police.
The cops can enter through an unlocked door, it is just that the evidence obtained is inadmissible, that is why they invented a thing called motion to suppress. What usually happens after an unconstitutional search is the suspect will be lead to believe that they are had and they will begin to spill the beans. More suspects have been hung by their own tongue than by legitimate police work.
You said, "Obviously some sort of disturbance but it doesn't give them the right to open the dam door." Unless you know what the call was for that conclusion is in error. Calls for help or assistance are valid reasons to enter a house. Did you do any further research? Perhaps a freedom of information act request for the tape of the call? If not then you automatic conclusion of an illegal entry is flawed.
@rpescril You could have read the Information. It was a false report. You can hear the people in the background talking about it, "That's stacy blah blah blah's house" I dont know precisely what was called in for the complaint but, I'm willing to bet that it wasn't something that gave them authority to enter. Nobody cares either. I sent a DVD to the local paper and they didnt seem to want to report on it.
@rpescril said: Calls for help or assistance are valid reasons to enter a house.
Nope. Absent clear consent, police must have actual evidence of imminent great bodily harm before they may enter a home without a warrant, according to the U.S. Supreme Court. A phone call even from a known reliable informant does not even come close, though it might be enough to get a search warrant.
actualy it is perfecly legal for a police officer to enter and search a residence without a warrant if they have probable cause to believe there is either illegal activity or a fugitive within
@ruku871 said that 'exigent circumstances' "in new york is not a high bar to reach at all unfortunatly."
'Exigent circumstances' are circumstances that federal courts (and therefore state courts) are required to meet in order for police entry to be "reasonable" and hence legal under the 4th Amendment. This is a national standard, and it is illegal for states to lower the bar, though they may raise it.
It may be that in New York, police behave unconstitutionally more than elsewhere.
@ruku871: Probable cause is legal justification for police to enter a residence ONLY IF the residence is some kind of vehicle. United States v. Carroll
Probable cause that a fugitive is in a house is NOT enough justification; the police must actually see the fugitive felon enter the house.
An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. [1] Those circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons - nuff said
Like I said we don't know WHY the cops where there in this particular video
@mibrown9932: The topic of this video is "illegal search". Such matters are ultimately decided by courts. I think courts would be far more interested in U.S. Supreme Court opinions such as those I've quoted than in quotes from Wikipedia.
In this video, we DO know that the police came in response to a call. We DO know the police did not immediately force their way into the home. Clearly, the police behaved either incompetently or illegally.
@DavidForthoffer I also found out--after I posted the video--that it was one roommate that had called on another for "stolen property." Both were in the process of moving out, hence the matresses and shit outside. I don't know what the cops were told in the complaint, but they were probably under the assumption nobody was residing there anymore. I don't know if that jiustifies, but just a little fun fact for everyone.
@ohfuqyes: If the police thought no one was residing there, and one roommate had called on the other for "stolen property", I cannot imagine "exigent circumstances" that would have justified police entering without a warrant. The usual legal procedure would be for police to secure the house to ensure people or evidence does not leave, then get a warrant, then enter (or else not get a warrant, then leave).
Most cases the door will be locked anyway...If the door is open tho they can open the door...They aren't going to be busting down doors. Most times these are to check on elderly people so it's considered a "exigent circumstance". A family member is worried there elderly family member may be in immediate need for help. It would be my 95 yo mother usually calls me everyday it's now 5 days I haven't heard from her, and we just had a heat wave she has no AC type deal...
@mibrown9932 said, "If the door is open tho they can open the door."
No, opening the door lets officers see ("search") inside the home. By itself, that is a clear 4th Amendment violation.
Either the call that prompted the police to come provides exigent circumstances. If so, the police were negligent in not immediately forceing their way in. If not, it is illegal for them to open the door, even if unlocked.
@mibrown9932: If you contact the police and credibly identify yourself (subjecting yourself to prosecution in case of a frivolous 911 call), and give a credible explanation as to why the police NOT forcing their way into her home would endanger her life, and why YOU cannot go there yourself, then THAT would establish exigent circumstances justifying their entry into the home.
Police cannot just yell "EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES" as an excuse to enter any home.
may not be what you think...people call the cops alot to check up on elderly people. In those cases yes they do open doors because they are there by permission from a family member to check on them. Like I said we don't know why they where called there but don't look like they did anything wrong to me. I was a police dispatcher for years and during summer months we got lots of these.
@mibrown9932 said, " In those cases yes they do open doors because they are there by permission from a family member to check on them."
Not true. If I call the police and ask them to check on my brother in HIS house, and my brother does not answer the door, the police STILL do not have a right to enter his house.
@ohfuqyes is this the best you can come back with is that i have bad grammar because you have no idea what the law says about Officers entering homes when a 911 call is placed?
@kitkat19882002 I just don't understand why somebody would try to dictate their knowledge of the law or anything else when they cannot adequately convey a message through proper use of our language. Please don't embarrass yourself. If english happens to be a second language for you, I'm sorry for picking on you. But if it's not, then you're a fucking disgrace.
@kitkat19882002 You don't know if it was a 911 call, and I don't know if it was. What I do know is why the cops were called because I later spoke to the girl that lived there and the Illegal entry was completely unacceptable in terms of the law. But if you want to be oppositional just for the hell of it, then go ahead. And If you want to give up your 4th ammendment rights, then give up your freedom of speech too becaue nobody wants to hear you spout off garbage anymore.
@kitkat19882002 The police ca't just open a door and walk in without a warrant to do so. Are you a fucking dumbass or did you just walk off the boat from bumfuckedegypt? Learn your RIGHTS SO YOU CAN EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR RIGHTS!!!
fisrt off you sound like you are 12 years old and in the process of going through puberty...second you dont have a fucking clue whats going on....what police academy did you go to.....hopefully one day the cops beat the living fuck out of you and your gay buddies
@kmakowsk You make youreslf look like an inarticulate, uneducated, moron when you come at me with a poorly phrased comment. No, I have never been to a police academy, but have you ever used a keyboard or puncuation before? Do you always torture the english language when you attempt to make an insult? If you're only going to speak one language, don't you think you should at least learn to speak that one well enought that you don't denigrate yourself everytime you open your mouth?
@TheRchelicopter There is so much wrong with your grammar that nobody can understand your comment. You're either eight years old or you dropped out of school in second grade.
@DavidForthoffer Yes it does give them the right to enter the home. If someone is presumed injured hurt or murdered depending on the nature of the call they can enter the home.
@ArmyRescue1: It takes more than "presumed". It takes actual EVIDENCE discernable to the officers (such as by looking through a window) that a person is in great bodily danger.
If an officer could enter a home just because a non-resident said something, it would gut the Fourth Amendment.
Not even a landlord has the authority to allow a police officer to enter the apartment of a tenant.
@ArmyRescue1: The officer must have "an objectively reasonable basis for believing a person within [the house] is in need of immediate aid”. Michigan v. Jeremy Fisher
To repeat: It is not enough for an officer to "presume" danger. He must have an objectively reasonable basis for believing it.
OK, I have cited a U.S. Supreme Court case FOR my position.
Now it's YOUR TURN to cite a U.S. Supreme Court case for your position.
@DavidForthoffer really? No you did not. If you called 911 and were passed out on the floor of your home I am sure you would want someone to try and get in there. You do not know the nature of this call so you can not argue it.
@ArmyRescue1: If THIS call was from a witness, known to the police to be objectively credible, said someone inside needed immediate aid to avoid great bodily harm, then the police OUGHT to have immediately forced their way in in an effort to help. But they didn't. They obviously did not have such a call. They were INVESTIGATING a less credible call. But investigating and finding a door unlocked did NOT give them the right to enter.
@ArmyRescue1: I recently took a First Aid / CPR class, from a firefighter. He said that the best thing I could do if I were choking and could not talk would be to dial 911 from a land line and rush OUTSIDE so I could collapse there.
He said the point of rushing outside was because police are not allowed to enter a home based on just a 911 call, even one from a phone known to be inside the house.
@ArmyRescue1: Yes, if I am having a heart attack, they are allowed to force their way into my home. That is not the issue.
The issue is WHAT THE POLICE/FIREFIGHTERS KNOW at the time they force their way into my home. If some anonymous person calls 911 and says DavidForthoffer is having a heart attack, THAT IS NOT OBJECTIVELY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that I am actually having a heart attack. Firefighters who force their way into my home based on that anonymous tip are violating my 4th Amendment rights.
@DavidForthoffer no it is not because they need to go off of the critical info. If your are having a heart attcack and they dont force there way in...you can sue them for not doing there job bassed off the info they had. They are aloud to go into your home bassed on what you just said
@ArmyRescue1: In 'risk of personal danger' cases, firefighters must have some reasonable basis, approaching probable cause, to associate the emergency with the place to be searched. (United States v. Davis)
An anonymous call, by itself, needs investigation to even be considered as probable cause. (Illinois v. Gates)
Since it is illegal for firefighters to enter a home based solely on an anonymous call, any suit against them for failing to enter is baseless. (Of course, anyone CAN sue anyone.)
@ArmyRescue1: In THIS video, an officer asked the videographer if he made the call. That tells me that it was an anonymous call. Furthermore, the officers' behavior itself reinforced lack of exigent circumstances---they came out and were leisurely investigating around the house. If exigent circumstances HAD allowed them to force entry, they would have immediately done so.
@DavidForthoffer "If some anonymous person calls 911 and says DavidForthoffer is having a heart attack, THAT IS NOT OBJECTIVELY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that I am actually having a heart attack"
If you were having a heart attack I'm sure you wouldn't give a shit about your forth amendment rights. Obviously if it is urgent ( in a heart attack every second counts) cops dont have the time to sit there invesitaging it is credible evidence.
@ArmyRescue1: Based on the cases I cited and the behavior of the officers, this video shows either officers behaving with a grossly negligent slow response to exigent circumstances, or officers illegally entering a home.
You, no doubt, will repeat your claim, without citing any law or court case supporting your claim. That's OK. I'll just figure you don't know what you're talking about.
correct the moron obviously has no clue. The police can enter a resident if they get a call for demistic abuse, violence etc., etc., etc,... Or to persue a suspect. However, they can't seach your house or car, if you refuse. Then again, they will anyway, and almost always get away with it.
There's not enough information here to conclusively determine if this was an illegal search, but it appears there was a 911 call, and then no response when they knocked, which probably would give them the right to enter the house under the extingency exception to the warrant requirement. Also, there are magistrates that provide warrants on weekends.
To bad your commentary does not match what I saw in your video. What I saw was the cop knock on the flimsy out side storm door made mostly of glass, did not get response after that the cop pounded on the inside door and waited until the person opened it let the cops in.
You sound like you would have prefer the cops to pound on the out side door and broken the glass.
People, you are responsible for your own actions, and for protecting your families. We do not need the government, police, UN or anybody else to "take care of us". Self-sufficiency has become a lost American quality, it's time to get it back!!
The commentary from the peanut gallery on this video in really funny. Dude, there was NO call, it's a cop trick (lie) to make it appear they had Probable Cause! You should have gone over & talked to that 100 year old lady, which might have proved entertaining.
@cresidue probably, but she was so fucking old though. I wouldn't be suprised if she had called because of some loud dogs, or some kids walking on her lawn.
I'm all for citizens' rights and limiting cops' opportunity for illegal searches and seizures, but this video is kinda dumb. The resident opened the door and invited the cops inside -- nothing wrong with that.
For all we know, the resident could have been the one who called the cops there in the first place.
Searches are only illegal if there is no warrant and no consent. This one was perfectly legal because there was clear consent.
I feel ya, very interesting. A neighbor called the cops here when I enetered, next thing I know, I was hearing them walk in anouncing "police department", then I had to direct them to my id while lying face down in my hall. No harm done. But as I shook the sargents hand, I clearly told him, I never leave my door open, if I didnt just get here, This may have turned out different.
Cops almost never, EVER, stop a crime in progress. They are too busy checking for tinted windows and enforcing prohibition. The only reason a person contacts the police after a break-in is so they can have the police "report" for insurance claims. God knows the cops sure ain't gonna find your shit.
KID...you apparently have no idea what you are talking about. You said yourself that you didnt know what the call was about. Apparently somebody called the police to that specific house. There are a million scenarios that would LEGALLY ALLOW the police to open the door and go inside.
Im the first one to call foul on a cop...but you simply have NO IDEA what you are saying.
Im no lawyer or an expert, but from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I do understand my rights, and their job.
This happened to my brother and one of my friends. They can't do this.They need permission and a warrant to search a private residence. These officers are breaking the law.
ohfuqyes: you are an idiot. you have no clue what kind of call these officers got to have them show up at the scene. hopefully no one in your family is ever dying inside a residence and the police just show up and go away because your dumbass thinks a police officer always has to have a warrant to go into a residence. your are a fucking idiot!!!! take some legal classes!!!
Typical moron running their mouth without having a god damn clue. If they got a welfare check, or a 911 hang up call from the residence then they have every right to go in through an unlocked door.
Oh and you can search warrants on weekends anyway you fool.
yep, if a family member of the resident called the police because they were worried that they haven't heard from them or had calls returned, the police can enter that house while checking up on the call.
that depends on who the "someone" is, it must be a peer or be familiar with, or have a trust between that person in order to make such a check i believe, even so this is not specified in the constitution. A deputy officer does not count as a someone who can perform a wellness check on another person because they are not associated with them, have any trust, peer, or familiarity with them. Therefore that is a violation of the fourth amendment
Actually, it all depends on the call to the police. They do have the authority to enter a residence if they have reason to believe someone may be injured inside.
And to the guy above that said wait for them with a gun. That's called premeditated murder. It also depends on the laws in "your" state as to if and when you have a right to use a gun on a tresspasser.
Heres an idea. Buy a gun and wait for them to enter your house without a warrant. Open fire on them. It's perfectly legal if any intruder enters your home that you defend yourself.
They didn't do anything illegal. I dont like cops often nor what the powers they generally have to abuse people without any risk to themselves. But this is not illegal entry. The cops if anything are doing a good deed. checking on someones welfare regardless of a warrant is a good thing to do. they do not have X Ray vision you know. And Judges work every day. Just not in the court.
By the way, if you liked this, I would highly recomend the "BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters" video. Very well done. It discusses the rights of the common man and how, in many cases, cops try to strip him of his rights. But, more importantly, it tells you how to fight back and set cops straight. The government is here to serve the people-not the other way around. This video makes that very clear.
I really like some of your comments, guys. It's nice to see that people can still question-that they can still think. It's good to dare and be a rebel every now and then, even if you don't know how it will end for sure. This is what the founding fathers did. They rebeld agaisnt the government and took a very serious risk when doing so, but they didn't care. Then, they won and lived the way they wanted to. I strongly believe people should live the way they want, because you only have one life.
A disturbance does give us the right to open the door and search the house its to see if anyone is injured its one of the few times officers can search without a warrant. Check up on the subject before you make your self look silly next time.
Yes, this is absolutely correct, except no one has to be "injured". The cops can come in if they have strong, convincing evidence of any illegal activity at all. However, my question to you is: What strong, convincing evidence do these cops have? Apparently no one was home and there are no obvious signs of illegal activity from what the camera showed. On the other hand, I don't suppose waltzing into random houses is a cop's idea of "fun". You said "us". Are you saying you are a cop?
You are correct I was just useing that as an example. And I dont need strong convincing evidence if the call is a disturbance that is enought to enter a home and check the welfare of any occupants I just can start going through desks and looking where a person couldnt be. There are other cases where a home can be entered without a warrant it just appears to be the case with this video. However I dont know the nature of the call these officers answerd.
And yes I am a cop for ten years now and I know in my case Im not going to flush my job and my honor down the drain just to walk in someones house. But I cant speak for every cop on the street. I know there are bad cops out there. There are bad people in any job. Just dont lump us all together judge us as individuals please. I go into every encounter with prejudging the person so please do the same for me.
There was nobody home at the time of the call or when the cops arrived. I later spoke to the girl that lived there. She told me that she was in the process of moving out and her roommate called in a bullshit police report out of spite for some fight they were having. I dont know what her roommate told them in the phony call, but to me it appears the cops were acting a little surreptitious the was they opened the door so timidly, not like they had the full authority to do so.
And you were trained to do tactical entry where.....You dont always go busting through a door when you enter a home there are times when you want to entry with some discretion in case the abd guy is still there, and you just made my point the roomy called in a BS call about a fight.
Not a fight, but a quarrel between two bitchy ass females that had been ongoing, and eventually resulting in one of them moving out to avoid further bullshit. while the one was at work, the other called in a report saying one thing or another about god knows what, and the over-zealous police officers decided to dictate the law as they saw fit. They found nothing obviously. They asked me if I called, and then played stupid like they didnt know what the call was for... "Aww shit, he was filming!!"
its obvious that you made up your mind and no matter what every cop is on the take so how about the next time your robbed or need help call a crack head and see how far that gets you.
Why would i call the cops if i got robbbed? They wouldnt catch the perp or even look for them. The only reason to call the cops if robbed is to attain a complaint number for insurance purposes. That's not police work, that's secretary work. I dont think all cops are dickheads, i just think most of them have a superiority complex and a shitty attitude when they're on the job. Ive met plenty of great cops who truly want to help ppl and society in general, but the asshole pigs give them a bad rap
@ohfuqyes Kudos! It's always the belligerent, ignorant, asshole cops that want redemption <here> from their evil ways; good cops would not be trying to defend the bad cops! I particularly like their use Nazi interrogation tactics to try to prove their superiority over regular citizens. Don't worry; we'll all be sorted out in the end.
@CPD704 You sound just like a typical government employee, thinking everyone "needs" or wants your help. America was built on self-sufficiency not hand-outs & government aid! Where I'm at, the police won't enforce the laws we already have, so why the hell would I call them for anything?! They are simply gun-toting bureaucrats collecting a fat tax-payer funded salary. But I'm sure you're different...
@cresidue well I have been thanked by many victims for getting their stolen property back, and domestic violence victims for stopping them from getting beaten to death or evne killed but Im sure you know all about that and do so much for your community.....
@CPD704 I'm so happy for you, you did your job & someone praised you. Stopping a crime by violating the US Constitution is a moral & ethical flaw of yours, so stop trying to defend it here. Don't come into my house without a warrant, I will not submit to illegal violations of my Constitutional Rights.
@cresidue first off I havent violated any constitutional rights.....also I have not violated any moral or ethical standards, but of course you wouldnt know that because you just assume that all cops are crooks. Just showing how truly ignorant you are. Thank You for proving my point. You also need to read the US Supreme court desicions because there are instances where officers can enter your house with out a warrant.
@CPD704 1st off, I don't know you, I never said YOU violated any constitutional rights, I simply stated that your attitude shown here represents "a moral & ethical flaw of yours" toward the Constitution! I stand by that statement since YOU have attacked me for pointing out the obvious. As for your "Supreme Court decision", you actually proved my point for me, reread all the decisions. Lastly, I never said "all cops were crooks", but YOU seem to be going a long way to convince people here!
@cresidue You pointed out nothing obvious.....what case law do you cite......None......and you did state that I stopped crime by violating the US Constitution.....or do you need to reread your statment posted above?.....and as for Supreme Court Decisons there are "Exigent Circumstances" where and officer can enter a house with out a warrant or can you not look that up?....Com on its been quoted in movies for Christs Sakes!!!!!!
@cresidue And as far as me attacking you I think you replyed to my post first so once again I have caught you in a lie or are you gonning to delete that and claim Im framing you too..........
@cresidue Oh and you said Im a "gun totin" thug or something to that effect....Im a vet of the US Army.....are you so once again I ASK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY?
@CPD704 Do you even remember which person you're angry at & who said what?? Because you're responding with gibberish & nonsensical blabber! Now you’re a vet too, huh? Whatever, dude, just go crawl back into your hole & do some brain exercises. You obviously have some Alzheimer’s. Stop messaging me, because life is too short to waste it on peons like you. PS. My idiot neighbor is a "Vet" too; he shot himself in the foot while getting out of his cruiser 20+ years ago.
Ok. First off you are a freakin loser. Get a life and find something to do with your time. I doubt that you are a lawyer or have police training. Depending on the reason they were there they may have legal right to enter the house. I hope your bitch ass gets robbed or beat up and lets see who you call to report it. I love how people like to take shit about the police until they need them.
We dont know why they are there, but look at the fucking lady. If they had a search warrant they wouldnt have fucked around, they would have just fucking knocked then busted in. She was acting sneaky, she probably broke the law.
Furthermore, ive never called the damn cops. I dont need baby sitters in my life. And fuck all those pansy ass criminal justice majors, i wanna kick them in their one dimensional sadistic wannabe-police fucking balls
honestly i think this is the main reason i lock my doors, not necessarily the burglars because they will still break a window, but the police randomly walking in on me at home, pretty funny how he asked if you called it in, yea doesn't everyone try to setup their local police?
Fucking cop lovers man, I cant deal with that kind of ignorance, the only people really like that are people that work in the criminal justice system.
The douchebag cop at 1:55 was making sure you had a video camera because they were just about to walk on in and help themselves to some leftovers and electronics.
What's really sad is that my firiend and I are making light of this "misuse of power". We should be appalled at the situation, putting the footage on DVD, and sending them to the county comissioner. Probably would have but they would just toss it out and tear up my letter, then have a good laugh about how naive I am to assume we actually have rights in the face of "the law."
I think my filthy mouth shuld be the least of anyone's concerns when watching this video.
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First of all jackass, judges sign warrants out of there houses to. Second of all, it doesn't even look like the officers are serving a search warrant. You ether had a bad experience with cops or you have no idea whats going on the law enforcement. Please get your facts straight before putting down the ones you call on for help.
Do you even understand the Bill of Rights? And secondly DECENT people do not call strangers bad names. The first amendment gives you the right to say it, but by saying it you show your true character to the world. Nuff said!
You saw them open it, there is no denying it. I honestly don't know if they had a warrant but they didn't really look like they were down to business, they asked me if I called so I assume they didn't have a warrant since they were responding to a call.
You're right. There is no way they were serving a warrant. If they had been, they would not have enter for a few seconds and then left. They would have searched the entire residence for what ever the warrant specified.
These "law enforcement officers" went way out of their supposed police powers.
if it was a domestic disturbance call they have reasonable suspicion that a crime was commited on the property and they can search the property and look through the windows, but not open the door unless they hear someone scream, say help, or a possible struggle in the residence. i'm glad there's people who video these things. i wish there was more the people could do than just watch.
i wish we could fight back like our founding fathers did.
This is actually incorrect. Police cannot perform a search of a home without a warrant. They wouldn't even be able to get a warrant with reasonable suspicion. They need probable cause. However, they can enter a home to do a well fare check if they reasonably believe someone may be in danger. If there was a 911 call requesting assistance, that would probably be enough to justify their opening the door. There doesn't necessarily need to be a scream or cry for help.
Where is the Pitbull owner when you need one?
lawnsausages 2 months ago
When juries, find the police are justified in entering homes without a warrant they don't relies that they are taking the fourth amendment away from their family, and away from themselves, and the police can do it over and over again and when they get in trouble they will just refer back to this case.
killyoubitch27 6 months ago
That same bullshit happened to me. I told the cops that they could not go in my house so they cuffed me and searched my house when I was the one that called them, BUT I HAD MY WEBCAM RECORDING AT THE TIME, HAHA. They charged me with obstruction, but the case was thrown out because of that video. I just wish I could have found a lawyer that wasn't scared to help me sue the police.
Watch my video.
fromboredom00 9 months ago
The cops can enter through an unlocked door, it is just that the evidence obtained is inadmissible, that is why they invented a thing called motion to suppress. What usually happens after an unconstitutional search is the suspect will be lead to believe that they are had and they will begin to spill the beans. More suspects have been hung by their own tongue than by legitimate police work.
Zyworski 9 months ago
You said, "Obviously some sort of disturbance but it doesn't give them the right to open the dam door." Unless you know what the call was for that conclusion is in error. Calls for help or assistance are valid reasons to enter a house. Did you do any further research? Perhaps a freedom of information act request for the tape of the call? If not then you automatic conclusion of an illegal entry is flawed.
rpescril 11 months ago
@rpescril You could have read the Information. It was a false report. You can hear the people in the background talking about it, "That's stacy blah blah blah's house" I dont know precisely what was called in for the complaint but, I'm willing to bet that it wasn't something that gave them authority to enter. Nobody cares either. I sent a DVD to the local paper and they didnt seem to want to report on it.
4th Ammendment R.I.P.
ohfuqyes 10 months ago
@rpescril said: Calls for help or assistance are valid reasons to enter a house.
Nope. Absent clear consent, police must have actual evidence of imminent great bodily harm before they may enter a home without a warrant, according to the U.S. Supreme Court. A phone call even from a known reliable informant does not even come close, though it might be enough to get a search warrant.
DavidForthoffer 7 months ago
0:42 " This used to be a nice neighbotrhood !" LOL !
BrokenTengu99 1 year ago
actualy it is perfecly legal for a police officer to enter and search a residence without a warrant if they have probable cause to believe there is either illegal activity or a fugitive within
ruku871 1 year ago
@ruku871: I think you actually mean 'exigent circumstances", a very tall bar to reach. Probable cause is what's needed to secure a search warrant.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@Pafoofnik1 in new york not a high bar to reach at all unfortunatly
ruku871 1 year ago
@ruku871 said that 'exigent circumstances' "in new york is not a high bar to reach at all unfortunatly."
'Exigent circumstances' are circumstances that federal courts (and therefore state courts) are required to meet in order for police entry to be "reasonable" and hence legal under the 4th Amendment. This is a national standard, and it is illegal for states to lower the bar, though they may raise it.
It may be that in New York, police behave unconstitutionally more than elsewhere.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@ruku871: Probable cause is legal justification for police to enter a residence ONLY IF the residence is some kind of vehicle. United States v. Carroll
Probable cause that a fugitive is in a house is NOT enough justification; the police must actually see the fugitive felon enter the house.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
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mibrown9932 1 year ago
from wikipedia: exigent circumstance means:
An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. [1] Those circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons - nuff said
Like I said we don't know WHY the cops where there in this particular video
mibrown9932 1 year ago
@mibrown9932: The topic of this video is "illegal search". Such matters are ultimately decided by courts. I think courts would be far more interested in U.S. Supreme Court opinions such as those I've quoted than in quotes from Wikipedia.
In this video, we DO know that the police came in response to a call. We DO know the police did not immediately force their way into the home. Clearly, the police behaved either incompetently or illegally.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer I also found out--after I posted the video--that it was one roommate that had called on another for "stolen property." Both were in the process of moving out, hence the matresses and shit outside. I don't know what the cops were told in the complaint, but they were probably under the assumption nobody was residing there anymore. I don't know if that jiustifies, but just a little fun fact for everyone.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
@ohfuqyes: If the police thought no one was residing there, and one roommate had called on the other for "stolen property", I cannot imagine "exigent circumstances" that would have justified police entering without a warrant. The usual legal procedure would be for police to secure the house to ensure people or evidence does not leave, then get a warrant, then enter (or else not get a warrant, then leave).
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer
Most cases the door will be locked anyway...If the door is open tho they can open the door...They aren't going to be busting down doors. Most times these are to check on elderly people so it's considered a "exigent circumstance". A family member is worried there elderly family member may be in immediate need for help. It would be my 95 yo mother usually calls me everyday it's now 5 days I haven't heard from her, and we just had a heat wave she has no AC type deal...
mibrown9932 1 year ago
@mibrown9932 said, "If the door is open tho they can open the door."
No, opening the door lets officers see ("search") inside the home. By itself, that is a clear 4th Amendment violation.
Either the call that prompted the police to come provides exigent circumstances. If so, the police were negligent in not immediately forceing their way in. If not, it is illegal for them to open the door, even if unlocked.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@mibrown9932: If you contact the police and credibly identify yourself (subjecting yourself to prosecution in case of a frivolous 911 call), and give a credible explanation as to why the police NOT forcing their way into her home would endanger her life, and why YOU cannot go there yourself, then THAT would establish exigent circumstances justifying their entry into the home.
Police cannot just yell "EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES" as an excuse to enter any home.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
may not be what you think...people call the cops alot to check up on elderly people. In those cases yes they do open doors because they are there by permission from a family member to check on them. Like I said we don't know why they where called there but don't look like they did anything wrong to me. I was a police dispatcher for years and during summer months we got lots of these.
mibrown9932 1 year ago
@mibrown9932 said, " In those cases yes they do open doors because they are there by permission from a family member to check on them."
Not true. If I call the police and ask them to check on my brother in HIS house, and my brother does not answer the door, the police STILL do not have a right to enter his house.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@mibrown9932 It doesn't look like they did anything wrong? It pains me to see you write that. Your liberties are eroding and you don't care?
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
wow your a dumb ass and don't know the law?
kitkat19882002 1 year ago
@kitkat19882002 Wow. You're a dumbass, and you don't understand basic grammar. Stop wasting your time watching YouTube and go to school.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
@ohfuqyes is this the best you can come back with is that i have bad grammar because you have no idea what the law says about Officers entering homes when a 911 call is placed?
kitkat19882002 1 year ago
@kitkat19882002 I just don't understand why somebody would try to dictate their knowledge of the law or anything else when they cannot adequately convey a message through proper use of our language. Please don't embarrass yourself. If english happens to be a second language for you, I'm sorry for picking on you. But if it's not, then you're a fucking disgrace.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
@kitkat19882002 visualize your grandmother naked............ now
kinney2040 1 year ago
@kitkat19882002 You don't know if it was a 911 call, and I don't know if it was. What I do know is why the cops were called because I later spoke to the girl that lived there and the Illegal entry was completely unacceptable in terms of the law. But if you want to be oppositional just for the hell of it, then go ahead. And If you want to give up your 4th ammendment rights, then give up your freedom of speech too becaue nobody wants to hear you spout off garbage anymore.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago 3
@kitkat19882002 The police ca't just open a door and walk in without a warrant to do so. Are you a fucking dumbass or did you just walk off the boat from bumfuckedegypt? Learn your RIGHTS SO YOU CAN EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR RIGHTS!!!
dshedder1 7 months ago
fisrt off you sound like you are 12 years old and in the process of going through puberty...second you dont have a fucking clue whats going on....what police academy did you go to.....hopefully one day the cops beat the living fuck out of you and your gay buddies
kmakowsk 1 year ago
@kmakowsk You make youreslf look like an inarticulate, uneducated, moron when you come at me with a poorly phrased comment. No, I have never been to a police academy, but have you ever used a keyboard or puncuation before? Do you always torture the english language when you attempt to make an insult? If you're only going to speak one language, don't you think you should at least learn to speak that one well enought that you don't denigrate yourself everytime you open your mouth?
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
there nothing wroung with this and some one open the door ass
TheRchelicopter 1 year ago
@TheRchelicopter There is so much wrong with your grammar that nobody can understand your comment. You're either eight years old or you dropped out of school in second grade.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
You don;t know the call, depending on the call they have the right to enter the home.
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1 said, "depending on the call they have the right to enter the home."
No, they don't.
A call might be justification to look in windows, but does not give them the right to enter the home.
Look up "exigent circumstances" and go through the list of what enables police to enter a building without consent or a warrant.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer Yes it does give them the right to enter the home. If someone is presumed injured hurt or murdered depending on the nature of the call they can enter the home.
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: It takes more than "presumed". It takes actual EVIDENCE discernable to the officers (such as by looking through a window) that a person is in great bodily danger.
If an officer could enter a home just because a non-resident said something, it would gut the Fourth Amendment.
Not even a landlord has the authority to allow a police officer to enter the apartment of a tenant.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer No a police officer is aloud to enter a home if he presumes someone is in danger
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1 Oh, He is "aloud?" Fucking aloud?
How about allowed? How fucking stupid are you?
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: The officer must have "an objectively reasonable basis for believing a person within [the house] is in need of immediate aid”. Michigan v. Jeremy Fisher
To repeat: It is not enough for an officer to "presume" danger. He must have an objectively reasonable basis for believing it.
OK, I have cited a U.S. Supreme Court case FOR my position.
Now it's YOUR TURN to cite a U.S. Supreme Court case for your position.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer really? No you did not. If you called 911 and were passed out on the floor of your home I am sure you would want someone to try and get in there. You do not know the nature of this call so you can not argue it.
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: If THIS call was from a witness, known to the police to be objectively credible, said someone inside needed immediate aid to avoid great bodily harm, then the police OUGHT to have immediately forced their way in in an effort to help. But they didn't. They obviously did not have such a call. They were INVESTIGATING a less credible call. But investigating and finding a door unlocked did NOT give them the right to enter.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: I recently took a First Aid / CPR class, from a firefighter. He said that the best thing I could do if I were choking and could not talk would be to dial 911 from a land line and rush OUTSIDE so I could collapse there.
He said the point of rushing outside was because police are not allowed to enter a home based on just a 911 call, even one from a phone known to be inside the house.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer I am a firefighter/CFR and he was wrong. If you are having a heart attack they are aloud to force there way into your home.
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: Yes, if I am having a heart attack, they are allowed to force their way into my home. That is not the issue.
The issue is WHAT THE POLICE/FIREFIGHTERS KNOW at the time they force their way into my home. If some anonymous person calls 911 and says DavidForthoffer is having a heart attack, THAT IS NOT OBJECTIVELY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that I am actually having a heart attack. Firefighters who force their way into my home based on that anonymous tip are violating my 4th Amendment rights.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer no it is not because they need to go off of the critical info. If your are having a heart attcack and they dont force there way in...you can sue them for not doing there job bassed off the info they had. They are aloud to go into your home bassed on what you just said
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: In 'risk of personal danger' cases, firefighters must have some reasonable basis, approaching probable cause, to associate the emergency with the place to be searched. (United States v. Davis)
An anonymous call, by itself, needs investigation to even be considered as probable cause. (Illinois v. Gates)
Since it is illegal for firefighters to enter a home based solely on an anonymous call, any suit against them for failing to enter is baseless. (Of course, anyone CAN sue anyone.)
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@ArmyRescue1: In THIS video, an officer asked the videographer if he made the call. That tells me that it was an anonymous call. Furthermore, the officers' behavior itself reinforced lack of exigent circumstances---they came out and were leisurely investigating around the house. If exigent circumstances HAD allowed them to force entry, they would have immediately done so.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
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@DavidForthoffer "If some anonymous person calls 911 and says DavidForthoffer is having a heart attack, THAT IS NOT OBJECTIVELY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that I am actually having a heart attack"
If you were having a heart attack I'm sure you wouldn't give a shit about your forth amendment rights. Obviously if it is urgent ( in a heart attack every second counts) cops dont have the time to sit there invesitaging it is credible evidence.
badpanda84 3 months ago
@ArmyRescue1: Based on the cases I cited and the behavior of the officers, this video shows either officers behaving with a grossly negligent slow response to exigent circumstances, or officers illegally entering a home.
You, no doubt, will repeat your claim, without citing any law or court case supporting your claim. That's OK. I'll just figure you don't know what you're talking about.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer I know what i am talking about and you do not know what happend in this video so shut the fuck you you fat fucking bitch
ArmyRescue1 1 year ago
This used to be a nice nieghborhood. Funny
MrTravelynn 1 year ago
Dude is this the Adrian police??? lol thats something they would fucking do dammit. I live in that shitty town.
thepwnmaster 1 year ago
@thepwnmaster Yup, that's Adrian's finest. this is over on the west side, Northwestern Dr.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
I love douches who think they know the law. It's hilarious. Calm down.
dbm32c4b 1 year ago
@dbm32c4b You Love Douches?....
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
@dbm32c4b
correct the moron obviously has no clue. The police can enter a resident if they get a call for demistic abuse, violence etc., etc., etc,... Or to persue a suspect. However, they can't seach your house or car, if you refuse. Then again, they will anyway, and almost always get away with it.
fmnma1 1 year ago
wtf is up over there,theyre taking away rights 1 by 1
raskladrasklad 1 year ago
if the police officers can obviously see something, they have the right to enter and investigate
timatandt 1 year ago
@timatandt but what did they obviously see? no 1 was home and you cant just open someones door
SL4VE0WNER1904619 1 year ago
There's not enough information here to conclusively determine if this was an illegal search, but it appears there was a 911 call, and then no response when they knocked, which probably would give them the right to enter the house under the extingency exception to the warrant requirement. Also, there are magistrates that provide warrants on weekends.
thegreatfish 1 year ago
To bad your commentary does not match what I saw in your video. What I saw was the cop knock on the flimsy out side storm door made mostly of glass, did not get response after that the cop pounded on the inside door and waited until the person opened it let the cops in.
You sound like you would have prefer the cops to pound on the out side door and broken the glass.
samten10a 1 year ago
People, you are responsible for your own actions, and for protecting your families. We do not need the government, police, UN or anybody else to "take care of us". Self-sufficiency has become a lost American quality, it's time to get it back!!
cresidue 1 year ago
The commentary from the peanut gallery on this video in really funny. Dude, there was NO call, it's a cop trick (lie) to make it appear they had Probable Cause! You should have gone over & talked to that 100 year old lady, which might have proved entertaining.
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue probably, but she was so fucking old though. I wouldn't be suprised if she had called because of some loud dogs, or some kids walking on her lawn.
ohfuqyes 1 year ago
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cresidue 1 year ago
are this matresses stolen sir? there nice matress hahahahah
onebadass03 1 year ago
pigs have to much power as it is
bockydo 1 year ago
I'm all for citizens' rights and limiting cops' opportunity for illegal searches and seizures, but this video is kinda dumb. The resident opened the door and invited the cops inside -- nothing wrong with that.
For all we know, the resident could have been the one who called the cops there in the first place.
Searches are only illegal if there is no warrant and no consent. This one was perfectly legal because there was clear consent.
Purushadasa 1 year ago
wheres there back up then.
MsCOCKSMACK 1 year ago
I feel ya, very interesting. A neighbor called the cops here when I enetered, next thing I know, I was hearing them walk in anouncing "police department", then I had to direct them to my id while lying face down in my hall. No harm done. But as I shook the sargents hand, I clearly told him, I never leave my door open, if I didnt just get here, This may have turned out different.
whatsnextnow19791 1 year ago
What was the call about? --idk your the one thats taping....????wtf
17aKaT 1 year ago
police can do anything they want whenever they want.
storm11001001 1 year ago
Cops almost never, EVER, stop a crime in progress. They are too busy checking for tinted windows and enforcing prohibition. The only reason a person contacts the police after a break-in is so they can have the police "report" for insurance claims. God knows the cops sure ain't gonna find your shit.
RandomGuyinunderwear 1 year ago
KID...you apparently have no idea what you are talking about. You said yourself that you didnt know what the call was about. Apparently somebody called the police to that specific house. There are a million scenarios that would LEGALLY ALLOW the police to open the door and go inside.
Im the first one to call foul on a cop...but you simply have NO IDEA what you are saying.
Im no lawyer or an expert, but from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I do understand my rights, and their job.
HenryChinaski405 1 year ago
This happened to my brother and one of my friends. They can't do this.They need permission and a warrant to search a private residence. These officers are breaking the law.
narukofan2 1 year ago
ohfuqyes: you are an idiot. you have no clue what kind of call these officers got to have them show up at the scene. hopefully no one in your family is ever dying inside a residence and the police just show up and go away because your dumbass thinks a police officer always has to have a warrant to go into a residence. your are a fucking idiot!!!! take some legal classes!!!
mphipps26 1 year ago
Typical moron running their mouth without having a god damn clue. If they got a welfare check, or a 911 hang up call from the residence then they have every right to go in through an unlocked door.
Oh and you can search warrants on weekends anyway you fool.
bdmpd 1 year ago
Enforcement the law is universally different from controlling the law.
GooGobbler113 1 year ago
yep, if a family member of the resident called the police because they were worried that they haven't heard from them or had calls returned, the police can enter that house while checking up on the call.
Stink808 1 year ago
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TheMadFlea 2 years ago
that depends on who the "someone" is, it must be a peer or be familiar with, or have a trust between that person in order to make such a check i believe, even so this is not specified in the constitution. A deputy officer does not count as a someone who can perform a wellness check on another person because they are not associated with them, have any trust, peer, or familiarity with them. Therefore that is a violation of the fourth amendment
Igneous01 2 years ago
the cps do that shit all the time
vmpslr2 2 years ago
youre an idiot. "doesnt give him the right to open the door"??? do you know anything about the law? no, you dont. so stop acting like it
matchesison 2 years ago 2
so then what gives the officer the supposed "right" to open the door then?
Igneous01 2 years ago
if he was on a welfare check, he could go in. how do you think cops find dead bodies? the dead guy obviously doesnt answer the door.
look up welfare checks. and not the money type, the public safety type.
matchesison 2 years ago 2
People on youtube are REALLY confused about what their rights are.
philnoll 2 years ago 6
i love the comment at :15
biggalo318 2 years ago
Actually, it all depends on the call to the police. They do have the authority to enter a residence if they have reason to believe someone may be injured inside.
And to the guy above that said wait for them with a gun. That's called premeditated murder. It also depends on the laws in "your" state as to if and when you have a right to use a gun on a tresspasser.
ddskreamer 2 years ago 2
@ddskreamer
You assume that they have reasonable suspicion that somebody is injured. I'd love to see the report.
USP1986 2 years ago
No assumption here... As I said... it ALL depends on the actual call made to the police. 911 logs are a matter of public record.
ddskreamer 1 year ago 2
Heres an idea. Buy a gun and wait for them to enter your house without a warrant. Open fire on them. It's perfectly legal if any intruder enters your home that you defend yourself.
UntamedWalrus 2 years ago 2
get this!
in the state of georgia if you got a gun, a cop only has to ask once for you to drop it before he can kill you!
crazy huh?
564955charlie 2 years ago
@UntamedWalrus lol, u cant shoot someone unless they threaten u
ozonepizza3562 1 year ago
If it was my home their would be a lawsuit coming.
im1greatman 2 years ago
They didn't do anything illegal. I dont like cops often nor what the powers they generally have to abuse people without any risk to themselves. But this is not illegal entry. The cops if anything are doing a good deed. checking on someones welfare regardless of a warrant is a good thing to do. they do not have X Ray vision you know. And Judges work every day. Just not in the court.
cjunk351 2 years ago
Judges don't work saturdays?
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Sorry, that was a bit harsh but do you really think that judges only sign warrants 9-5 on week days?
junkymagi 2 years ago
By the way, if you liked this, I would highly recomend the "BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters" video. Very well done. It discusses the rights of the common man and how, in many cases, cops try to strip him of his rights. But, more importantly, it tells you how to fight back and set cops straight. The government is here to serve the people-not the other way around. This video makes that very clear.
GlennBeckEnvoy 2 years ago
I really like some of your comments, guys. It's nice to see that people can still question-that they can still think. It's good to dare and be a rebel every now and then, even if you don't know how it will end for sure. This is what the founding fathers did. They rebeld agaisnt the government and took a very serious risk when doing so, but they didn't care. Then, they won and lived the way they wanted to. I strongly believe people should live the way they want, because you only have one life.
GlennBeckEnvoy 2 years ago
A disturbance does give us the right to open the door and search the house its to see if anyone is injured its one of the few times officers can search without a warrant. Check up on the subject before you make your self look silly next time.
CPD704 2 years ago
Yes, this is absolutely correct, except no one has to be "injured". The cops can come in if they have strong, convincing evidence of any illegal activity at all. However, my question to you is: What strong, convincing evidence do these cops have? Apparently no one was home and there are no obvious signs of illegal activity from what the camera showed. On the other hand, I don't suppose waltzing into random houses is a cop's idea of "fun". You said "us". Are you saying you are a cop?
GlennBeckEnvoy 2 years ago
You are correct I was just useing that as an example. And I dont need strong convincing evidence if the call is a disturbance that is enought to enter a home and check the welfare of any occupants I just can start going through desks and looking where a person couldnt be. There are other cases where a home can be entered without a warrant it just appears to be the case with this video. However I dont know the nature of the call these officers answerd.
CPD704 2 years ago
And yes I am a cop for ten years now and I know in my case Im not going to flush my job and my honor down the drain just to walk in someones house. But I cant speak for every cop on the street. I know there are bad cops out there. There are bad people in any job. Just dont lump us all together judge us as individuals please. I go into every encounter with prejudging the person so please do the same for me.
CPD704 2 years ago
And my proof reading sucks lol I meant to say that I cant just start looking through stuff :)
CPD704 2 years ago
There was nobody home at the time of the call or when the cops arrived. I later spoke to the girl that lived there. She told me that she was in the process of moving out and her roommate called in a bullshit police report out of spite for some fight they were having. I dont know what her roommate told them in the phony call, but to me it appears the cops were acting a little surreptitious the was they opened the door so timidly, not like they had the full authority to do so.
ohfuqyes 2 years ago
And you were trained to do tactical entry where.....You dont always go busting through a door when you enter a home there are times when you want to entry with some discretion in case the abd guy is still there, and you just made my point the roomy called in a BS call about a fight.
CPD704 2 years ago
Not a fight, but a quarrel between two bitchy ass females that had been ongoing, and eventually resulting in one of them moving out to avoid further bullshit. while the one was at work, the other called in a report saying one thing or another about god knows what, and the over-zealous police officers decided to dictate the law as they saw fit. They found nothing obviously. They asked me if I called, and then played stupid like they didnt know what the call was for... "Aww shit, he was filming!!"
ohfuqyes 2 years ago
its obvious that you made up your mind and no matter what every cop is on the take so how about the next time your robbed or need help call a crack head and see how far that gets you.
CPD704 2 years ago
Why would i call the cops if i got robbbed? They wouldnt catch the perp or even look for them. The only reason to call the cops if robbed is to attain a complaint number for insurance purposes. That's not police work, that's secretary work. I dont think all cops are dickheads, i just think most of them have a superiority complex and a shitty attitude when they're on the job. Ive met plenty of great cops who truly want to help ppl and society in general, but the asshole pigs give them a bad rap
ohfuqyes 2 years ago 12
@ohfuqyes Kudos! It's always the belligerent, ignorant, asshole cops that want redemption <here> from their evil ways; good cops would not be trying to defend the bad cops! I particularly like their use Nazi interrogation tactics to try to prove their superiority over regular citizens. Don't worry; we'll all be sorted out in the end.
cresidue 1 year ago
yeah, the power goes to the head!
DemocraticNZL 2 years ago
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hardknox503 1 year ago
@CPD704 You sound just like a typical government employee, thinking everyone "needs" or wants your help. America was built on self-sufficiency not hand-outs & government aid! Where I'm at, the police won't enforce the laws we already have, so why the hell would I call them for anything?! They are simply gun-toting bureaucrats collecting a fat tax-payer funded salary. But I'm sure you're different...
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue well I have been thanked by many victims for getting their stolen property back, and domestic violence victims for stopping them from getting beaten to death or evne killed but Im sure you know all about that and do so much for your community.....
CPD704 1 year ago
@CPD704 I'm so happy for you, you did your job & someone praised you. Stopping a crime by violating the US Constitution is a moral & ethical flaw of yours, so stop trying to defend it here. Don't come into my house without a warrant, I will not submit to illegal violations of my Constitutional Rights.
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue first off I havent violated any constitutional rights.....also I have not violated any moral or ethical standards, but of course you wouldnt know that because you just assume that all cops are crooks. Just showing how truly ignorant you are. Thank You for proving my point. You also need to read the US Supreme court desicions because there are instances where officers can enter your house with out a warrant.
CPD704 1 year ago
@CPD704 1st off, I don't know you, I never said YOU violated any constitutional rights, I simply stated that your attitude shown here represents "a moral & ethical flaw of yours" toward the Constitution! I stand by that statement since YOU have attacked me for pointing out the obvious. As for your "Supreme Court decision", you actually proved my point for me, reread all the decisions. Lastly, I never said "all cops were crooks", but YOU seem to be going a long way to convince people here!
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue You pointed out nothing obvious.....what case law do you cite......None......and you did state that I stopped crime by violating the US Constitution.....or do you need to reread your statment posted above?.....and as for Supreme Court Decisons there are "Exigent Circumstances" where and officer can enter a house with out a warrant or can you not look that up?....Com on its been quoted in movies for Christs Sakes!!!!!!
CPD704 1 year ago
@cresidue And as far as me attacking you I think you replyed to my post first so once again I have caught you in a lie or are you gonning to delete that and claim Im framing you too..........
CPD704 1 year ago
@cresidue Oh and you said Im a "gun totin" thug or something to that effect....Im a vet of the US Army.....are you so once again I ASK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY?
CPD704 1 year ago
@CPD704 Do you even remember which person you're angry at & who said what?? Because you're responding with gibberish & nonsensical blabber! Now you’re a vet too, huh? Whatever, dude, just go crawl back into your hole & do some brain exercises. You obviously have some Alzheimer’s. Stop messaging me, because life is too short to waste it on peons like you. PS. My idiot neighbor is a "Vet" too; he shot himself in the foot while getting out of his cruiser 20+ years ago.
cresidue 1 year ago
@cresidue again I ask what have you done for your community besides belittle those that have contributed?
CPD704 1 year ago
Ok. First off you are a freakin loser. Get a life and find something to do with your time. I doubt that you are a lawyer or have police training. Depending on the reason they were there they may have legal right to enter the house. I hope your bitch ass gets robbed or beat up and lets see who you call to report it. I love how people like to take shit about the police until they need them.
ROBJ585 2 years ago
We dont know why they are there, but look at the fucking lady. If they had a search warrant they wouldnt have fucked around, they would have just fucking knocked then busted in. She was acting sneaky, she probably broke the law.
Furthermore, ive never called the damn cops. I dont need baby sitters in my life. And fuck all those pansy ass criminal justice majors, i wanna kick them in their one dimensional sadistic wannabe-police fucking balls
ohfuqyes 2 years ago
honestly i think this is the main reason i lock my doors, not necessarily the burglars because they will still break a window, but the police randomly walking in on me at home, pretty funny how he asked if you called it in, yea doesn't everyone try to setup their local police?
hargino 2 years ago
yes what the fuck is going on
bassgod533 2 years ago
Fucking cop lovers man, I cant deal with that kind of ignorance, the only people really like that are people that work in the criminal justice system.
ohfuqyes 2 years ago
My comment was directed to jackfrost
glenisah 2 years ago
The douchebag cop at 1:55 was making sure you had a video camera because they were just about to walk on in and help themselves to some leftovers and electronics.
stopthedouchebaggery 2 years ago
Yeah probably, those rotten bastards, they know they fucked up....on camera.
ohfuqyes 2 years ago
What a dirty mouth you guys have.
That's said.
VictoryForever7 2 years ago
Did you mean that's sad?
What's really sad is that my firiend and I are making light of this "misuse of power". We should be appalled at the situation, putting the footage on DVD, and sending them to the county comissioner. Probably would have but they would just toss it out and tear up my letter, then have a good laugh about how naive I am to assume we actually have rights in the face of "the law."
I think my filthy mouth shuld be the least of anyone's concerns when watching this video.
ohfuqyes 2 years ago
I like your video; gives awareness. And I like your dirty mouth ;)
sassyhunnybree 2 years ago 2
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First of all jackass, judges sign warrants out of there houses to. Second of all, it doesn't even look like the officers are serving a search warrant. You ether had a bad experience with cops or you have no idea whats going on the law enforcement. Please get your facts straight before putting down the ones you call on for help.
jackfrost913 3 years ago
uhhh i really dont think YOU have your facts straight......read the 4th amendment
Brochius 2 years ago 2
Do you even understand the Bill of Rights? And secondly DECENT people do not call strangers bad names. The first amendment gives you the right to say it, but by saying it you show your true character to the world. Nuff said!
glenisah 2 years ago
These officers may be responding to an alarm call in which they have the right to enter if they have an open door.
mrw8de 3 years ago
You saw them open it, there is no denying it. I honestly don't know if they had a warrant but they didn't really look like they were down to business, they asked me if I called so I assume they didn't have a warrant since they were responding to a call.
ohfuqyes 3 years ago
You're right. There is no way they were serving a warrant. If they had been, they would not have enter for a few seconds and then left. They would have searched the entire residence for what ever the warrant specified.
These "law enforcement officers" went way out of their supposed police powers.
Good job catching this on tape.
Smackchow 3 years ago 4
if it was a domestic disturbance call they have reasonable suspicion that a crime was commited on the property and they can search the property and look through the windows, but not open the door unless they hear someone scream, say help, or a possible struggle in the residence. i'm glad there's people who video these things. i wish there was more the people could do than just watch.
i wish we could fight back like our founding fathers did.
drummingdude2007 2 years ago 5
@drummingdude2007
This is actually incorrect. Police cannot perform a search of a home without a warrant. They wouldn't even be able to get a warrant with reasonable suspicion. They need probable cause. However, they can enter a home to do a well fare check if they reasonably believe someone may be in danger. If there was a 911 call requesting assistance, that would probably be enough to justify their opening the door. There doesn't necessarily need to be a scream or cry for help.
thegreatfish 1 year ago
Dispatch always knows where the calls come from. I think the officer wanted to intimidate you because you were watching.
sassyhunnybree 2 years ago