Star Trek Enterprise VS Star Wars Death Star Minisode

[MuscleManDaniel]

the tractor beam and weak primitive lasers of star wars would not effect the galaxy class starship enterprise-D. This is another fanboy attempt. You do not have to be smart to watch star wars. Star trek you do. and btw. I am not a fan of the abrams timeline.

[DarthRevan1177]

Thd daeth star shot should have blown the enterprise to pieces

[Starkiller22475]

@Elfenvampir The death star has shields by the way. Note rebels. The shield is still up all craft pull up. Take evasive action. Sir we have enemies in sector 3 7. IT'S A TRAP.

[mdurwin]

A blast from the Death Star would definitely kill the Enterprise. but, as long as it stays out of the target area, like, anywhere other than right in front of the main weapon, the Enterprise would just be able to blast away at the back of the Death Star with phasers and photon torpedos.

[Elfenvampir]

Only fools beleive that the enterprise would lose, one Phaserhot and the deathstar is unarmed..

[Idazmi7]

@Elfenvampir Not quite that muchpower to a phaser, but they could blow 350 kilometer chunks out of it with torpedoes... not to mention, torpedoes fire at ten shots a second...

[Herowebcomics]

Wow!

I'm suprised they lasted THAT long!

The crews in Startrek are smarter but the Empire

has bigger guns!

[Idazmi7]

@Herowebcomics Two words:

Photon Torpedo.

[Herowebcomics]

@Idazmi7 That WOULD change things!

[Idazmi7]

@Herowebcomics Yes it would, and most people on both sides forget that.

[Valpskott]

Seriously, you people talking about Borg this, Borg that.. you're talking out of your ass.

Fact 1: The Borg assimilate species which would add biological and technological distinctiveness to theirs.

Fact 2: Laser technology + people without any sense of aim (storm troopers) + one asthmatic overlord with 3rd degree lava burns would nether pose any threat nor be good enough for assimilation.

[xPureEx]

I'm sure it has been stated, but the Death Star cannot go anywhere as fast as warp 8.

[Idazmi7]

@xPureEx It actually traves much faster, but is tactically inept, as are most Star Wars ships.

[xPureEx]

@Idazmi7 The Death Star can go faster than 10,000x(+) the speed of light?

[Idazmi7]

@xPureEx Unfortunately, yes. (More like ~14 million times lightspeed. Hate the Star Wars galactic size)

But a single photon torpedo could be easily rigged to follow the exaust to the primary reactor core...

(Death Star go *BOOM*)

[xPureEx]

@Idazmi7 Or transporters? :P

[Idazmi7]

@xPureEx Or any single individual from Starfleet really, Star Wars ships are so obvious, Starfleet training in advanced problem-solving would wipe out the whole Empire.

:P

[Sarasdad91]

Why is it that these Star trek vs Star wars fan made videos always have Star wars winning? The borg would probably have adapted the the death star's weapons and blew it away, The cube was just as big and the borg were a collective group which is like a single powerful mind, that gives them the advantage.

[Idazmi7]

@Sarasdad91 Star Trek wins, but the Death Star is much bigger than a Cube.

[Sarasdad91]

@Idazmi7 Yeh you're right. but because the borg are a single collective mind, that gives them a great advantage over the empire. They don't have to wait for orders from the higher command and then pass them on to the whole fleet, when the borg approach they know what to do and their reaction time is much faster.

[Idazmi7]

@Sarasdad91 I know.

[TheNightwing42]

22 people had friends on that Enterprise

[MadMax74656]

didnt Xwing blow death star into ashes by firing into some core? then i dont think it would be problem to beam a quantum torpedo in it and detonate,you wouldnt even have to move your ship XD.

Im just stating my opinion,if somebody has something to say,come freely,greetings and salutations folks.

[jazzsax357]

No. Don't think so.

[KrinkutAlliance]

If anyone paid to technology books of Star Wars and Star Trek (Why would Trek need a book? They say everything needed on screen anyways), you'd see Star Wars wins by far no matter the >Ship< match up. In terms of fighter match up, it would really depend. Tie Fighter VS Perenge Attack Fighter, Trek wins. Jedi Star Fighter VS Perenge, SW wins. Trekkies, no bombarding me. I'm a Trekkie too, so don't try it.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Lasers don't affect Federation shields. Federation Shields are also magnetic. Blaster weapons cannot penetrate "magnetic seals" at all. Not to mention, the old Enterprise can destroy cities with just it's phasers, and can even level an M-class planet's surface, as per the Original Series episodes "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it the OUTDATED MODEL. I just bombarded you.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Nice Trekkie come back, but that's the problem. Lasers in SW are actually Super Heated Plasma, putting Starfleet out of business just saying that.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Blasters still cannot penetrate "magnetically sealed" doors, or "ray shields". Starfleet Shields are both. Also, Romulan Plasma Torpedoes destroy planetoids in the only episode in which they are seen, putting them more on par with the Death Star. (Not quite, though) The Constitution class can still level a planet's surface, snd survived 3 hits from the Planet Killer, and 4 hits from Nomad, both of which destroy entire star systems in their respective episodes.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 If you met the Cardassians, you would easily know it wouldn't matter that the Lasers are fired from a turret, it's just Super Heated Plasma. Enough said that Starfleet's shields would be useless. Let's use your maths for a moment, however. Super Heated Plasma is now under powered, but that wouldn't matter because it can still take down Starfleet's shields in seconds considering the amount of fire power a Star Destroyer has.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Plus, if you use your maths and under power SHP even more, it still wouldn't matter as Star Wars shields can withstand Starfleet's weapons easily. Star Wars shields = Dynamic sub space barriers. As it's a barrier in sub space, it would prove difficult for Starfleet's weapons to penetrate. Heck, even the Borg would find it hard to adapt.

But Constitution surviving those? If those are Original Series Star Trek, that's understandable. Otherwise, who the fuck wrote those lines?

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Who the fuck *describes the function* of Star Wars shields? Not any of it's writers...

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Like I said, this came from a book of the Technologies. Some dude even spent 15 minutes reading out the odds of Star Trek VS Star Wars, and that was only Part 1. He was also reading the book.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance He ignored the stated Enterprise firepower. (see above)

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 No, he even said what Enterprise is capable of. Enterprise would be an easy target for even a Tie Fighter. That part I find hard to believe, however. Then again, we are talking about Super Heated Plasma VS Phasers, so...

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Then he lied. I mentioned several episodes in which various Enterprise crew members mention the power of the ship. In the Original Series "Mirror,Mirror" the past usage of that powerid detailed: several planetary populations wiped out by the Mirror Universe Enterprise. The guy lied, end of story.

[Idazmi7]

And blasters still cannot penetrate "ray shields".

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 It's Super Heated Plasma. End of.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Super Heated Plasma that would bounce off Federation Shields, despite their "plasmaness".

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Then you aren't a Trekkie and you should go away now, since you have kept up an argument about simple technology you have no idea about.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Blasters = bounce off magnetic doors. Turbolasers are more powerful, as ST shields are more powerful than a simple door. Also, Klingon weapons look and act like turbolasers, and are similarly weak. Klingon weapons *are* Super Heated Plasma. And I *am* a Trekkie.

watch?v=did164yEFx4 - Klingon warships shooting a MEDICAL SHIP

watch?v=i90TEcyqfDU - Star Destroyer shooting CONSULAR SHIP

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Klingon weapons are Disruptor weapons, actually. Super Heated Plasma won't bounce off shields either.

watch?v=did164yEFx4 - This is a 25th Century ship, and Klingons are naturally challenged so says by their title of Warrior Race. They'll never upgrade their weapons in 200 years.

watch?v=i90TEcyqfDU That's not a Counsular ship, that's a CORVETTE. And if you paid ATTENTION, you can see that only 3 shots actually HIT the ship. The first 2 tore the shields apart, 3rd tore engines apart.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Vader said "consular ship". Corvettes aren't even mentioned in the Star Wars G-canon. Disruptors *are* super heated plasma. Also, Star Wars aim sucks, (you revealed such) and imperial military blasters in the SAME FILM fail to penetrate a magnetic surface. (Starfleet Shields are still magnetic.) Klingon's used to use weak phase weapons before disruptors, plus torpedoes. (eg, they upgraded) Star Wars has used blasters and lightsabers for 500,000 years, at least. DERP.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 (And now I see why fans of other Sci Fi shows HATE Trekkies to bits.)

But anyways, since you're as stubborn as an adult Stem cell to even realize your own show you're a fan of, I'll show you.

watch?v=lQKzZU0YViE - The shots fired from the orbital platforms are Super Heated Plasma. As you can clearly see, they ass rape Starfleet ships like their shields don't exist.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance The shields don't exist. Star Trek DS9 (via idiocy in sfx) never used shields on anything except space stations. Also, those are Cardassian Phasers, which like most Star trek weapons (including the Starfleet Phaser) are indeed plasma. So are all the weapons that DON'T affect Federation shields. Most non-trekkie Sci-fi fans don't know the "sci" from the "fi", or when to stop reasonlessly pissing on the oldest standardly televised sci-fi. In short, you're a dick.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I would say, "Umadbro?", but you made that clear by addressing me with a slang term, "Dick". Once, I am a Trekkie. Not a super one that can say the exact figures of power output from things I see, but a normal one that knows his stuff about what he says. Two, Phasers and Super Heated Plasma are two different things. If you do Science to a reasonable degree, and if you truly did know "Sci" "Fi", you would know Phasers are a stream of charged particles, whereas Super Heated Plasma doesn't

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance And, no, you are not any level of "has seen a Star Trek episode and enjoyed it". You are a masquerade: A 'trekkie' *cough* who can claim superior Star Wars firepower for Star Wars fans. And my "walnut" is still larger than your brain: you miss your intended result with every comment. I'm not mad, (anymore) I'm amused. You also did know that your two statements about Star Trek DS9 contradict.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 In all due respect, I'm not much of a fan of Star Wars. I've also enjoyed every Star Trek episode I've seen. Unlike mega fan people, I can actually look at the facts, and not what I want to see on a big TV screen. Do yourself a favor and also look at the facts, not what you want to see just because Star Wars is a Fantasy, or because they are too much about fighting, or what ever you mega fans cry about these days.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance I see it onscreen, I report it. I only mentioned episodes: you mentioned books. For that reason, the facts are staggeringly in my favor, and you come off as a liar.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance My only references: "the Doomsday Machine" "Whom Gods Destroy" "The Cage"

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Mine;

DS9 war.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Cardassian weapons are "spiral compression beams", not "plasma"

Also, DS9 is when the Star Trek tech took a steal from Bab5. I reference TOS for that reason - it's Star Trek undiluted.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 First you say Cardassian weapons are Phasers, now you say they're spiral compression beams. Make up your damn mind.

Plus, DS9 is still a Star Trek series. Put up with it. People put up with Voyager being an overpowered little bastard.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance It's DS9. It won't make up it's OWN mind, which is why you continue to use it as an argument. Wouldn't you know that if you were a Trekkie who actually watched that show? And no, they *didn't* put up with voyager. Those two: Deep Space Nine, and Voyager are the two least admissable Star Trek series: DS9 for switching out Star Trek for Babylon 5, and Voyager for overpower. Only their last seasons are really hated at all: You know all about those seasons. Nothing else. o_O

Hater.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I'm only a hater of Voyager, and only because it's overpowered. DS9 is fine, even though it does copy Babylon 5 as said. TNG is good; it actually sticks to the story line, all though there were 1 or 2 points that did seem a little cheated, that's perfectly acceptable, considering how overpowered the Q are.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Plasma scientifically has LESS output than a charged particle stream. Unless you refer to stars.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Why the fuck do you think I said Super Heated Plasma, then? -_-

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Sci-Fi Plasma is always Super Heated. Also, "Super Heated Plasma" is still not a magical "cuts shields like butter" beam in Star Trek. Only Neutronium is magical "unbreakable cosmic stuff". You do know that the Star Wars non-canon is written by the fans, right? They always try to just "make" Star Wars ships better than Star Trek ships. (Everything they say digs the hole deeper)

Krinkut Alliance: "Why the fuck do you think I said SUPER HEATED Plasma then?"

To beat Phasers.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 And Star Trek is any better with the non-canon stuff? I've seen plenty of fans make Star Trek look better than all other Sci Fi's even though Star Trek isn't.

And as I recall correctly, Neutronium exists in Stargate only.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance "The Doomsday Machine" in the original series, 'trekkie'. A weapon made of pure NEUTRONIUM destroys several star systems. How much Star Trek have you seen lately? It's really the ONLY Sci-Fi on TV aside "2001 A Space Odyssey": everything else is either Space Fantasy or Star Trek Wannabe.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 How much Star Trek have I seen you say? I've seen all except TOS. TOS I've seen 10 seconds of an episode with the furlings, and the end part of 'Wrath of Khan' when Enterprise is firing upon the Miranda Class. Plus, I don't bother with TV. If I want to watch something decent, I got internet.

And just because the other Sci Fi's on TV aren't as Trekkie as you want them to be, doesn't mean they're Space Fantasy or Star Trek Wannabe. I've seen enough here, you're like 99% of Trekkies.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance I like most Sci-Fi and space fantasy: Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, The Terminator, H.G. Wells, Issac Asimov, etc etc, I just don't like people mis-representing Sci-Fi for "firepower=popularity" reasons. Also, most Space Fantasy (Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, etc) are not true Sci-Fi. Since when is Star Wars Sci-Fi? People like you make it into Star Trek Wannabe With Bigger Guns. Also, Enterprise-D can blow up continents without extras, "trekkie".

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I never said; "Firepower = Popularity" OR Star Wars being a Sci Fi. All I said was Star Wars has the technology to ass rape most Trek ships. Plus, Enterprise D is only just capable of taking out an asteroid that's about 20x its size roughly, so a whole continent is an overstatement. (See TNG Pegasus)

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Star Wars doesn't have tech that can "rape" Star Trek ships. And Kirk DID vapourise a whole continent, and take hits from Death Star level weapons in the episodes I mention, making your guff an understatement, or later Star Trek writers ignorant of past ability. You can't possibly prove me wrong without actual references, and just your faulty "Amazing Know-All of Star Trek" karma to pull your weight.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Lawl. You only prove my earlier point then; TOS Enterprise was severely overpowered. Even VOY wasn't THAT overpowered, and that thing took out Borg Cubes in just 1 Torpedo. There's no technology in being overpowered, it's just plain bullshitting. Plus, I clearly stated that my biggest knowledge in Star Trek is the technology, not the entire thing itself. Ufailedbro. Umad?

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Star Trek: The original series has no earlier limitations, and thus cannot be overpowered. All later ships are UNDERpowered, for audience identification reasons, and an increase in drama. Therefore, Kirk can take on the whole Empire and win.

P.S. what earlier point?

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Annnnd yet it only took 1 Bird of Prey to finally kill him. Really, it shouldn't matter that TOS was original, there still should have been limitations. I mean, come on, a PHOTON Torpedo raising continents? Surviving a blast from a PLANET BUSTER? Limitations or not, that's still pretty damn overpowered.

P.S. One of my comments stated TOS to be overpowered. This conversation has gone in several different directions like branches on a tree, so I'm not surprised that was asked.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance The bird of Prey was combat ready: the Enterprise was heavily damaged, under repair, without shields, and rigged to run with only 5 aboard. A fresh, undamaged Super Star Destroyer was hit on the bridge by a tiny ship and lost all stability as a result. A single Photon Torpedo would be much worse than an accidental kamikaze in a teeny little stunt fighter.

Also, TOS did have limitations, you just don't know what they are. Star Trek ships still pwn Star Destroyers. Always.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 *Puts what you saud against the status of Enterprise when Kirk was killed* ... Right... Believable.

How that tiny ship bypassed the shields I'll never know. Besides, do you know what those sphere things are on the bridge anyways? Those like to ruin everything if you damage 'em. Though yes, a Photon Warhead would do more damage than a kamikaze fighter, but the Photon Warhead isn't gonna get past that shield anytime soon. One moment TOS has no limitations, next they do. Make up your mind.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance The shields on the Enterprise were down after the previous movie: the Enterprise had been damaged by a commadered STARFLEET vessel. (eg, powerful vs powerful) The repairs WERE NOT FINISHED when the Bird of Prey attacked.

My mind is well made.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Cool story bro. Looks like that Miranda class did something that wasn't sit there and get ass raped then use some pointless bomb to self destruct.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance You're right: It did. The Enterprise was shot first, dipstick, and largely disabled. They had to fight in an ionized nebula to obscure the Reliant's sensors, or the Enterprise would have lost.

You are an idiot.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 And you have no logic sense; neither of us will admit the other.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Actually, that's you. You fail to recognise both show's canon, and substitute your own. Since you still ignore me, I decided to challenge the only reliable source you have. (I found the video where that 'Guy' overstated X-wing firepower: Henry Walsh)

watch?v=k4mfkw9gV5k - Henry Walsh's unreferenced vid

watch?v=rgZ0ROorfLk&feature=yo­utu.be

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 So you think by making a 10 minute long video, of you using your illogical brain, smashing together explanations about Star Wars and Star Trek, in which plenty of things you said are totally bull (Like Star Trek being the first sci fi), that you have developed a higher IQ than your already non existent high IQ quantity?

Dude? You failed. Again. And again. Enough said.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance First TELIVISED Sci-Fi. Also, i only clipped scenes together, if you watched the video. ufail again, I haven't failed yet.

It is postponed, however, copyright stuff I forgot.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I have watched it. 10 Minutes = wasted.

You might as well start arguing about how the Death Star II works and you could make more people interested from both sides prior to your silly talk about 78% irrelevant detail, 21% bull, 1% other.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance You couldn't have seen it: it was blocked. This wasn't.

/watch?v=KYNWRqaevpI

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I saw it the first 5-6 hours after upload. I would print screen to prove it but you never said to do so in advance.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Still don't believe you. The other link I posted was a continuation of the vid. Respond to it: I've only commented on clips from episodes. Find a false comment, and you win. (EU doesn't apply to the movies, as the explosion's sizes will tell you) Find me lying and you win. That should be easy for a "trekkie"

P.S. Respond on that video's page, or don't reply at all. Divorcing yourself from the source can't help you.

>:D

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Who said all trekkies had to be good at arguing? Not man kind.

Plus, since neither of us do bugger all here, I might as well also comment on your pretty little video, where other fans of both films can kick in and get this over and done with. It's not supposed to help, it's supposed to make you, sooner prior to later, shut the fuck up since you're as stubborn as an adult stem cell in terms of not facing facts, and only accepting what you want to see on the big screen.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance ...the facts of a TV/Movie series IS what you see onscreen. That's the point of WATCHING it.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 For that specific film anyways. When it goes from one film to another, that's a whole different story.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance So, you imply that someone can overstate SW firepower, just because it's being compared to something else?

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I'm implying that photon torpedo's can easily be overestimated in its film simply because that's how it is for that film. But if you want to launch it against a proton torpedo, then you can't do it by how one film did it simply because. You have to do it by actual facts and figures, and etc. Just because a pretty little TOS torpedo can obliterate a continent in 1 film doesn't mean that'll happen in another just because of how overestimated it was in the original.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance It can 4 episodes of TOS: more than enough for Star Trek canon.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Nevertheless. Not happening in another film just because you saw it in one.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Starfleet preserves life when possible, And the Empire never performed any Base Delta Zero. Starfleet ships can crush imperial ships. My point proved. You failed. Goodbye.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Wow. 3 Months of trying to teach technology to a Trekkie and THAT failed? That's like meeting a formal person who's a complete child; that's simply not possible.

You sir, need to really look in a mirror sometime and then say that exact line. Because you are even worse than my 7 year old brother when it comes to learning the technologies of Sci Fi, Sci Fa and Star Wars, and he's pretty much the next generation's 'chav'.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance No, I just remember how they actually work. You do not: what tech does Star Wars even have? Flash Gordon lasers? THEY ARE CALLED LASERS, AN OBVIOUS "OOPS" AND YOU STILL TRY TO DEFEND IT WITH "TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE??" Get real. George Lucas can't even scientifically quantify the difference between ".5 lightspeed" and crossing a galaxy in an hour. Goodbye.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Good for him. Considering Episode 4, 5 and 6 were made at the same time BSG TOS failed to understand the same thing, coolstorybro. LEWK AT DA TECHNIKAWL MANUEL DERP. Star Wars Lasers = Super Heated Plasma weapons. Automatically any Trekkie would know they'd be anal raped by that.

Ohaider.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance No Super Heated Plasma would not, as I have just explained. Tell me why it would, o smart one, how would hot plasma "rape" a Star Trek ship?

Also, for science NASA has Star Trek's ship info on their home site, and no Star Wars ships.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 For the metaphoric term for "rape", Star Trek cry out PLENTY of times that Super Heated Plasma would tear through their shields and destroy their ships in seconds. Yes, I have forgot what episode, no I'm not going through days worth of Star Trek just to find it.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance Then you suck at giving references. If it happens a lot, wouldn't that be easy to find?

You still lost, Jerk.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I said plenty. That's not a real value of numbers as it can vary from rarely to every micro-second of the day. God, Unonufenbro.

Oh, now you're doing a children's game of "OGM IM WINNING HAHAHAHAHAHA"? Okay, my turn! I'm winning because I said so. Bi-Win.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance ?? I didn't get the first part.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 Never mind.

The movie after Wrath Of Khan is Search for Spock, by the way. So, you failed there.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance The Search for Spock: the STILL damaged USS Enterprise is stolen mid-repair to save Spock, and on the way is attacked by a Klingon Bird-of-Prey. Kirk activates the Enterprise Self-Destruct to prevent the ship's technology from being stolen. The Bird-of-Prey didn't blow the Enterprise up: The damaged Enterprise disabled the Bird-of-Prey with Photon Torpedoes, then burned itself out as a plot device.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 *Continued* Doesn't lie about its name. Think of it in common sense too; lasers won't affect magnetic shields much because lasers are an outcome of intensive radiation and a few hints of particles that are given a specific direction by magnetic accelerators to go a direction, one that can be redirected due to minimal particles to redirect to start. Super Heated Plasma is full on out particles, one in which magnetic shields can't redirect no matter how good.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 So, just in case I became too complex for your Walnut (See what I did there? Of course you did.), you have no scientific knowledge about anything, or as much knowledge in Star Trek as the title "Trekkie" would assume you, therefore meaning you should go away now seeing as how I, with minimal effort, typed out, "You lost. Kthxbai".

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 To add on to your little, "The shields don't exist.", Sub Spacial Barriers are a real type of shielding in Sci Fi, just not in Star Trek. Star Trek DS9 had shields on their ships and space stations, though in every fleet battle there is the effects for shields are never added or otherwise they ruin effect.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance In Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the Enterprise refit takes a hit from a planet-disentegrating super-heated-plasma weapon, and lives. Also, I didn't attack the fact SW shields are subspace, I attacked the fact that SW subspace-shielding is not G-canon. Who is that "guy" anyway?

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I forgot the name of the guy. I also do remember him saying that both technology facts and etc like that came from Star Trek Motion Picture, movies, films, along with Star Wars Movies and films. So, in technology terms, film terms and what not, that Constitution Refit was overpowered. Because if it can survive a planet disinter grater, it's; technologically more powerful than the 31th century ST, overpowered in common sense, and it sounds like the writers were freaking high.

[KrinkutAlliance]

@Idazmi7 I forgot the name of the guy. I also do remember him saying that both technology facts and etc like that came from Star Trek Motion Picture, movies, films, along with Star Wars Movies and films. So, in technology terms, film terms and what not, that Constitution Refit was overpowered. Because if it can survive a planet disinter grater, it's; technologically more powerful than the 31th century ST, overpowered in common sense, and it sounds like the writers were freaking high.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance That was typical of the non-refit Enterprise, and typical of all early Star Trek. The writers weren't high, you just don't know Star Trek.

[Idazmi7]

@KrinkutAlliance You aren't a trekkie.

[Durin01]

So the Enterprise takes a hit from a beam that destroys a Planet riiiight....

[ncruhk]

@Durin01 Eh, at least they had it blow up... seen plenty of trekkie vids where they think the Enterprise can take on a Star Destoyer much less the DS (lol!)

[starknight97]

hyper space is faster then warp though it be like traveling in subspace for star trek not just a warp bubble. the enterprise d couldn't handle a single super laser hit let alone 5. though she could dodge the blast. yet the 1000+ ship to ship blaster lase(green make shot work of her. Best tactic for fed hit run squads with the transporters. Fighter and shuttles due to all shielded and high hit ratio. a Peregrine-class or delta flier would = 3 to 4 b wings.

[postalmeter]

Ok, explain how a ship doing WARP EIGHT, can be hit by a beam that moves at SUBLIGHT speed?

What the hel-LO McFLY????????

[Freddie1980]

Why does the ejection system always fail when you need to use it?

[DrejStinger1986]

@Freddie1980 Probably 'cuz the ship is nearing the end of her warranty, LOL XD!

[MulToyVerse]

So! It wasn't the Enterprise C that was involved in that Quazality Loop, but the se second Death Star?

[lowellriggsiam]

@MulToyVerse There are a good number of altered realities in the Star Trek universe, of which nothing is cannon.

[jgguitar76]

Star Wars vs Star Trek. The Federation could easily cripple the Empire. The weapons of Star Trek are far more powerful then that of Star Wars. One quantum torpedo can distroy any death star. My question is that in all the Youtube videos I've seen why does Star Wars always win?

[lowellriggsiam]

@jgguitar76 You make an excellent observation. I'll consider a future conflict, possibly anaglyphic., in which the federation wins.

[postalmeter]

@jgguitar76

You didn't watch MINE! LOL

[360Nomad]

@jgguitar76

1. The Feds from Star Trek are pussies who never shoot first.

2. The Empire has Darth Vader on their side, he can just choke everyone on the Enterprise.

3. Even though the Feds can spawn shit out of nowhere, they never seem to use it for Military Purposes (i.e. warships and soldiers). Thus limiting their resources. The Empire has an army of unlimited clone soldiers at it's disposal.

[Edge123455]

@jgguitar76

How can you remotely compare power of a civilization who has only advanced in conquering a few solar systems (federarion) to the empire which conquered the whole galaxy, millions of solar systems. Do you even know how many hundreds of thousands of years apart are these two factions? It's like the the aztecs v.s the modern U.S. army. And you're saying the aztecs would win.

[Poonard]

@jgguitar76 i think most people like Star Wars more...which makes sense, it's more of a comedy than anything to me while Star Trek is science fiction.

[Arbyther]

Its intresting that the Enterprise didnt turn to ashes in the second it got shot, but that was really intresting, good job!

[lowellriggsiam]

@Arbyther I guess it took a while for the structural integrity field to collapse.

[RafaleC77th]

I'm no Star Wars fan, but I actually like the concept behind this here. Its very well done.

[DeafFret]

Oh bullshit. The Enterprise has shields, the death star doesn't.

[yettii0077]

the enterprise would not even have any molecules left if hit by that laser let alone survive, still cool 

[Wolfeye90]

Great video, although it doesn't compare the two franchises well. A volley of photon torpedoes would have enough power to destroy the Death Star, easily. Especially when it is in a state when it is not completed.

[Kaz10005]

hehehhe

ima StarWar-monger

SW all tha way!

Force

Death star

much bigger army thanST

SW pwns St

[Wolfeye90]

@Kaz10005 Actually, the weapons in Star Trek are much more advanced than those of Star Wars (comparatively, neither are real, although some of the weapons in Star Trek and Star Wars have been proven possible) and neither normally uses an army, because both use starships as their main weapons and form naval systems.

[Austindude3954]

Wierd...Im a Trekker and I think Star Wars has some neat stuff...All the Fanboys hate Star trek for some reason..... What fools -_-

[Melchizarius]

Another Trek hater! :-P

[Yabanjinvideo]

Nice video and great episode of STTNG!

[Barneystudioz]

Death Star at warp doesn't make a lot of sense but that doesn't really matter, great video and great effects and editing them both together

[lowellriggsiam]

@Barneystudioz I never considered the means of propulsion, or top speed for the Death Star. In the Star Wars universe ships can travel faster that light speed, which happen to be the cosmological speed limit.

[shadowkill546]

@lowellriggsiam

Yeah, anything that travels faster than the speed of light would be going back in time right?

[lowellriggsiam]

@shadowkill546 Not enough information, but if Einstein is right and matter is, in fact, a dragon on time then once you escaped gravity and went into space time would, at the very least, slow down. I guess if you managed to exceed the theoretical speed limit you'd eaither go into the future, go backwards, or pass through every piont in the universe simaltaneously.

[billyboyjennings]

@lowellriggsiam From what I understand, they really don't go faster than lightspeed. Star Wars ships go into Hyperspace, which is another dimension, and then come back out into real space when they reach their destination. That's how they get around the whole "impossible to go faster than light" rule.

[lowellriggsiam]

@billyboyjennings, Han Solo said," She'll make .5 past light speed." So if we assume that it is a matter of assumption rather than a fact of speed it'd be understandable.

[Armedias]

@lowellriggsiam Yes, but in episode 5 when the millennium falcon was parked on the back of a star destroyer one of the captains mentioned that if they did get into hyperspace they would be on the other side of the galaxy by now. Only some time had passed, like a few hours or so. The .5 speed of light thing might just be the normal engines, not the hyperspace ones.

[TheYoung450]

The Death Star would have destoryed the Enterprise in one shot. Maybe the gunners just put it at a lower level, enough to cause the ship to destory itself.

[Perion]

very nicely done, though I personally feel it should have been a regular Star Destroyer rather than the Death Star, would have made more sense.

still well done.