You only said that you hate islam so people wont think that your pro islam. I can't blame you you had to appeal to the idiots watching this video.But don't stereo type Islam as a violent religion. I consider extremists a whole different religion.
@JoeRingo118 not exactly everybody. There is a possibility he wasn't in it at all. There was an old video that came out directly after that video the media broadcasted of him adopting the operation... in the other video, he completely denied any connection to it. His son appeared on yet another video and said that the guy appearing in the videos broadcasted by the media is not his real father. I think it is more complicated.
I haven't seen any evidence that bin Laden had CIA training* and I definitely haven't seen any evidence that this training was used to hijack planes. I haven't heard of the Afghans or their allies in the '80s using hijacked planes to fight the Soviets.
Everything else is spot on.
*I know the mujahedin of Afghanistan got weapons to fight the Soviets, but I haven't seen proof than any of the Arab volunteers, like bin Laden, directly got that aid.
@ahhhhjjjj "Really? The Arab Mujahideen [...] are real."
I know. I said that In my comment. What I'm asking for is a source saying that bin Laden directly received CIA training or that he used this aid to hijack planes to fight the Soviets.
@kissfan7 I don't think you understood what DAFGS stands for. Not to be rude, but it is "Do A Fucking Google Search".... you will find lots of them.
I won't go into a debate about it, because it simply is not worth it. This matter has become a matter of religion to some people & if you are already brainwashed into believing one thing, no matter how much proof you find, you will stick to your old point of view.
Like I said, even the US gov admitted it. How about videos of US officials?
@kissfan7 Besides, I am currently busy with stuff that is much more important to me. Right now, I'm giving more details and testimonies to independent reporters about what really happened in Libya during the beginnings fo the libyan events (I was there). Some shit that people outside libya will only think is fairytale. I've helped 2 independent reporters get into Libya and see the truth for themselves. They came back and reported what they've seen (which will never be covered in the media btw).
@MrHardCash "Right now, I'm giving more details and testimonies to independent reporters about what really happened in Libya during the beginnings fo the libyan events (I was there)"
@kissfan7 1- globalresearch[dot]ca/index[dot]php?context=va&aid=7718 if it doesn't show up, type in google: Al Qaeda and the "War on Terrorism" 2- /watch?v=h1qlB61mmFg or type in youtube: "Alex Jones: Al-Qaeda created by CIA" 3- /watch?v=pZ_HlmP1aZk if the video doesn't show up, type in youtube this: "BBC now admits al qaeda never existed"
"BBC: Osama bin Laden was CIA agent & Al-Qaeda Never Existed - Invented by CIA"
These are just starting points you can take... they may not answer all of your questions, but you can do your own research online. Alex Jone's channel has many many details, proof, documented stuff.. he's not just pulling shit out of his ass... he dedicated several vids on alqaeda / cia connection.
@MrHardCash None of them say where, when, and how bin Laden received his training, and none of them mention training him to hijack planes. I can find, for example, sources saying the CIA trained anti-Castro groups. I can even show you their training camps and give names of agents involved. That's what I'm asking for regarding bin Laden. Hell, some of the sources don't even mention his name!
In a separate issue, they're contradictory. Half say al Qaeda doesn't exist, half say it did.
@kissfan7 They said the "organization" as a form of "organization" with all of its meaning, doesn't exist. I believe you are referring to the BBC documentaries. Pay more attention to what is said... they don't mean alqaeda doesn't exist... they meant it as an organization, requiring the kind of action that Bush took.
@kissfan7 Like I said, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Sorry, but I don't have time to dig you sources that state where... I don't have time to dig you sources that state when... don't have time to get you sources that state how ..etc. They exist out there if you are serious about it. There are even 3 hours long documentaries with shitloads of details on where, how, when...etc.
@kissfan7 Funny thing, there isn't even one single evidence or proof backing up the US gov's offical story about Alqaeda and the hijackers, while there're loads that go against it. The US gov acted based on only "words".. what they "claimed"... no real solid evidence... and yet the majority of the americans bought into it because they assume whatever gov officials say or news stations men in suits claim = reliable info and solid proof!
@kissfan7 I'm sorry.. but what was your specific question again? lol
Were you asking about Alqaeda or Bin Laden or the Mujahedeen? Either I'm missing something, or you're being a real smartass. My "troll-dar" is ticking.
@kissfan7 oh, so you were searching for the words 'bin laden'? Forget Clinton's video... what about the other sources before it that mention bin laden? You didn't like their accents?
@MrHardCash Wow, you're few chairs short of a dinette set.
I asked for proof of the claim in the video, that bin Laden directly received training from the CIA that included training in hijacking planes for missiles. I'm not asking for proof that al Qaeda is whatever definition of "organization" you choose or Truther BS, I just wanted an official document about CIA training.
But you go ahead and get back to your "independent reporters". I'll let civilians answer my questions.
I come from a Muslim family. I'm Humanist. My sister is Atheist and she introduced me to your videos. I totally agree with you. You may hate Islam, fair enough. But you're not Islamaphobic; and I respect your opinion. People just look for something to hate. Before it was Jews, then Catholics (coincidentally I have a Catholic education), then dark skinned people and now Muslims. Because heaven forbid the human race to actually get along -_-
@14ayahme Funny thing is the Muslim issue comes straight out of the neo-con model. Neo-con theory clearly states "You need to have an enemy image in order to keep a society together".
What a total asswipe you are, sir! You are not different from the people you are so eloquently stumping at! You keep talking about 'us' Atheists, when there is no us to talk about! Atheists, agnostics and apatheists do not swarm together and speak of 'us' . You do not get that, as you do not get that america is not the (god) given country, where it all happens...yet you can not keep from refraining about america. Learn something, while you are being busy hating!
@gyqz You should learn that when typing 'America', you should include a capital 'A', and America is considered a free country, you retard, to hold that title, you need to tick all the main human rights, including freedom of speech and so on.
So according to Pat Condell, the people who are defending the rights of Muslims to freely hold and express their opinions, regardless of how it upsets, insults or offends, are being politically correct?
most atheist want to terminate religion when they don't realize that they are being just as despicable as the fundamentalist they despise. sure believing in a god is fucking stupid and we can criticize them all we want and disagree, but the minute you start wanting to control WHAT that person believes in and making them stop, you aren't just being a hypocritical and holding up a double standard.
T.J. is literally JUST AS GOOD as George Carlin, or Bill Hicks. He should go down as one of the greatest thinkers of the 21'st century. When people two or three generations down the line look back on our long-gone problems, T.J. should be treated with the same respect that we give to Mark Twain now. We're very lucky to be alive during this great surge of rationalism, the future can only get better with the amount of science we will soon have.
This guy is hilarious. I understand he's from the south. That's all I need to know up here in the big apple. He needs to let go of his anger. And start working out. Peace. Merry christmas
I was with him up til 4:50 "No one has the right to commit violence against their fellow man"
As an atheist, how do you defend this position? That kind of statement is purely subjective. Most people would never choose to hurt their fellow man, that isn't to say that those who have a violent disposition should not have a right to act on it. As if the line in the sand is speech: you can say anything you damn well please, you just can't cause physical pain to someone. Moral Objectives =/= Exist.
Sorry if you still haven't figured this out, but atheism =/= moral relativism.
It only seems this way from the perspective of the theist, who thinks that morality hinges upon the deity they happen to believe in.
But that opinion, in itself, is fallacious - just because a God has an opinion on morals, and has (physical) power over humans, doesn't give his moral instructions any objectivity.
Atheism removes the law giver from the picture...
Others want other people to be as free and well as possible while living in societies. This mosty involves the condemnation of one human harming another (without real justification), and taking the side of the victim.
Seeing yourself as one of many, and wanting to provide everyone else with the freedoms and benefits you enjoy, or desire, is what we call a morally upright and conscious person.
Not caring about others because "murderers may want to murder"...
@Hjernespreng Oh, right, let's focus on what Julis Evola has been called by his critics instead of what he actually wrote. Why don't you try looking up Evola's actual theory on racism, which is much deeper, intellectual, and intricate than any anti-racist bullshit that you leftists can come up with. Ever wonder why racism has ALWAYS been around, and the concept of equality among races is VERY recent? Oh, let me guess, because people used to be ignorant and now they're SOOOO enlightened.
"I'm not racist, I just think my race is superior" Sure, skippy.
Why are these concepts recent? Why is gender equality even MORE recent, retard?
"Oh, let me guess, because people used to be ignorant and now they're SOOOO enlightened."
Uh, yeah. It is called GENETICS, and they didn't have it back then.
Guess what genetics have shown us? That there is NO DIFFERENCE between human races. The differences are so small that scientists DON'T use the word "race" as it is invalid.
I can't help but laugh at the idiots disagreeing with this video. Are you people really that fucking stupid? It's quite clear you don't support freedom of speech, except when it is advantageous for you. TJ is right on the money, so suck a dick, bitches.
That never existed to begin with! yeah sure, share your opinion with the people, but be careful if you value your life. I have been there and it's not beautiful.
I do firmly agree with your argument regarding free speech.
On the other hand, I thought Rauf's credibility was strained beyond belief when he admitted, after Trump offered to buy the land from him for more than it was worth, that he'd turned down offers "three times as much". To me, that says he cares more about the location than what the community thinks.
I just wanted to note that there were reasons to be suspicious of this project other than 'I jes' hate them damn Mooslims!!'
wow.. such great words.. but i personally believe in UK freedom of speech more than that which we have in the US..
how come sharia4US wasnt even allowed to hold a peaceful protest in america? how come one cant even talk about sharia publicly in america without being 1) arrested and 2) put on a nofly list or somthing?
isnt that just speaking too?
i think they only allowed the mosque and called it that way "kordoba" specificly so people can get enraged like pat did..
are you fucking serious the united states of america's government gave osama bin laden C.I.A training and with that training he organized the hijacking of 911 please send me your sources im not saying i don't believe what you've said but wikipedia and i know its not the best source but wikipedia says that the U.S.A have no contact let alone training at the times at of which this is believed to have happened.
once again im not trying to disprove fact if it is or not im just curious.
@Bob420Marly During the 1979-89 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden(a Saudi Arabian supporter of the Afghans) was trained by the CIA to allow the USA to fight the USSR in a sneaky way. It's proxy war, bud! Osama turned on the US in the '90s, but by that time he had unfortunately amassed tens of thousands of followers. And the al-Qaeda we all know and hate today was born.
@Bob420Marly It's all bullshit. Just because they tell you something, doesn't mean it's true. You can't trust anyone anymore. The last place I'd go for any sort of truth is wikipedia.
@MrGladBEASTftw Really. So why is it that it wasn't added to money until the Civil War (and only because they realized that both the North and South read the same bible, so it was a point of unity)... and it wasn't added to the pledge until 1954?
This country was founded by mostly diests... who didn't believe in the story of Christ, and the only reason they believed in a god AT ALL, is because there were things that we take for granted as fact that science couldn't explain.
You know what, i don't care how any of you take to this video. At the end of the day, we all know the Muslims are the plague to humanity. Fuck the American constitution in this respect. Where do we draw the line between the concept of "true freedom and the constitutional rights" when it comes to Islam? I think Pat's right. America should already form a dictatorship solely against all this Muslim bull shit. What other approach will ever do anyhting. Prediction-NOTHING! You can't be civil with
Funny. It's over a year later, the mosque is open and yet nobody cares anymore. No more protesters complaining about it. What a bunch of fradulent outrage that whole "controversy" was.
@CoolerKing37 To be fair the guy did say at some point he wasn't going to open it and the controversy died down after that. I had no idea he changed his mind.
@braydenbeautiful oh definitely, as an atheist myself, just watching all of Pats "horrible" videos, which lack poignancy and intellect (and good advice) it is soooo easy to see where you're coming from and you deserve all the merit for such a head strong, unemotional and in-depth comment...
I subscribed to Pat as well because I agree with some of the stuff he says. But when he released that video I thought he was wrong. I recently subscribed to you but I agree 100% with what you have said.
TJ has officially joined the libtard club. Congrats, and bye.
Too much barren formalistic pseudo-philosophical chatter to make few dollars selling dvd's to other pseudo-philosophers.
Freedom for oppression, tolerance for intolerance.. concepts that used to work but not anymore. The world is changing and those who don't adapt themselves to the changes will be (as we know) extinct. Thanks to idiotic worshipers of formalism like yourself, our civilization will disappear. "But who fucking cares.."
Though democracy you may fight intolerance and oppression. It is in your full power to stop it, by your own means and the own rules of your own country.
Nothing has changed actually, according to you. Aggression and oppression towards/of the week has always be a favourite pastime of the mob; all you've done is reencarnate it.
You've also actually created a false dichotomy: civilization will disappear if we abandon our principals too. Lose-lose hunny.
Where is my "aggression" and "oppression"? In oppossing to a giant mosque 200m from the ground zero, when it can be built on any other site in the u.s.? How about a real oppression promoted and conducted by the ideology that mosque represents? Do you know anything about Islam? What do you mean by our "principles"? Tolerance toward intolerance? Will intolerance or tolerance toward this watch?v=SycJj_XFP20 destroy the civilization? Many questions.
You've answered your own question. To be tolerant you must be tolerant of intolerance. I'm not championing tolerance as the pinnacle of morality, but it is certainly a facet of it.
They have the RIGHT to build the mosque wherever the fuck they want, if they own the land.
You fail to see the humour in your own logic; oppression of oppression = enduring of civilization.
I don't think I'm the only atheist with TJ's mindset either.
I actually speak arabic, as I'm half arab. I can actually read the Koran in it's native language so I'd be careful who you charge with being ignorant.
Anyway, I'm going to get my balls waxed. Nighty-night.
I did. First, religion is oppressive by definition; they are mental shackles. The difference between Christianity and Islam is immaterial when not adjusted for time -- Islam is where Christianity was 300-400 years ago (pre-enlightnment).
As I said, I likely know more about it than you, as I can speak Arabic.
What I mean by principals, is what TJ means: all ideas have a right to exist. Period.
HEAR HEAR!
IronNarwhal 7 hours ago
Totally agree with you motherfucker! The double standard is absurd!
Besides, I don't think that the majority even know that there were muslims in the tower who were also killed. Media doesn't cover such things at all.
MrHardCash 3 days ago
This guy is fat.
napotnikmartinzimek 4 days ago
You only said that you hate islam so people wont think that your pro islam. I can't blame you you had to appeal to the idiots watching this video.But don't stereo type Islam as a violent religion. I consider extremists a whole different religion.
tajtas 4 days ago
Not to be rude or anything, but do you really think that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks?
ThomasElvestad 4 days ago
@ThomasElvestad everybody do... its just a matter if, he was hired or not? or just triggered to do it.
JoeRingo118 3 days ago
@JoeRingo118 Yeah, I see your point. Sometimes I just wish to go outside and scream: "9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!"
But then again, I would be shot. Haha :)
ThomasElvestad 3 days ago
@ThomasElvestad just go around with a live stream video camera, you get shot, people knows who.
JoeRingo118 2 days ago
@JoeRingo118 not exactly everybody. There is a possibility he wasn't in it at all. There was an old video that came out directly after that video the media broadcasted of him adopting the operation... in the other video, he completely denied any connection to it. His son appeared on yet another video and said that the guy appearing in the videos broadcasted by the media is not his real father. I think it is more complicated.
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@ThomasElvestad I guess some people still do.. lol
worse yet... the same people believe that he died that same day Obama decided he died.
MrHardCash 3 days ago
@MrHardCash I think that it's scary that the US has so much power. They can do what the fudge they want and the world will believe anything.
ThomasElvestad 3 days ago
I haven't seen any evidence that bin Laden had CIA training* and I definitely haven't seen any evidence that this training was used to hijack planes. I haven't heard of the Afghans or their allies in the '80s using hijacked planes to fight the Soviets.
Everything else is spot on.
*I know the mujahedin of Afghanistan got weapons to fight the Soviets, but I haven't seen proof than any of the Arab volunteers, like bin Laden, directly got that aid.
kissfan7 1 week ago
@kissfan7 Really? The Arab Mujahideen is mainstream knowledge. Google the phrase "Foreign Mujahideen". They are real.
ahhhhjjjj 5 days ago
@ahhhhjjjj "Really? The Arab Mujahideen [...] are real."
I know. I said that In my comment. What I'm asking for is a source saying that bin Laden directly received CIA training or that he used this aid to hijack planes to fight the Soviets.
kissfan7 5 days ago
@kissfan7 lol are you serious? There are loads of sources. Even the US gov admitted it. DAFGS
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@MrHardCash If there are "loads of sources", why not cite one?
I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, I'd just like sources.
kissfan7 2 days ago
@kissfan7 I don't think you understood what DAFGS stands for. Not to be rude, but it is "Do A Fucking Google Search".... you will find lots of them.
I won't go into a debate about it, because it simply is not worth it. This matter has become a matter of religion to some people & if you are already brainwashed into believing one thing, no matter how much proof you find, you will stick to your old point of view.
Like I said, even the US gov admitted it. How about videos of US officials?
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7 Besides, I am currently busy with stuff that is much more important to me. Right now, I'm giving more details and testimonies to independent reporters about what really happened in Libya during the beginnings fo the libyan events (I was there). Some shit that people outside libya will only think is fairytale. I've helped 2 independent reporters get into Libya and see the truth for themselves. They came back and reported what they've seen (which will never be covered in the media btw).
MrHardCash 2 days ago
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@MrHardCash "Right now, I'm giving more details and testimonies to independent reporters about what really happened in Libya during the beginnings fo the libyan events (I was there)"
/watch?v=aJx-uGRsiNU
kissfan7 2 days ago
@kissfan7 But nevertheless... here is a few sources you can use as a starting point (really, there are loads):
MrHardCash 2 days ago
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7
globalresearch[dot]ca/index[dot]php?context=va&aid=7718
if it doesn't show up, type in google:
Al Qaeda and the "War on Terrorism"
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7
/watch?v=h1qlB61mmFg
or type in youtube:
"Alex Jones: Al-Qaeda created by CIA"
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7
/watch?v=pZ_HlmP1aZk
if the video doesn't show up, type in
youtube this:
"BBC now admits al qaeda never existed"
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7
polidics[dot]com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication[dot]html
or type in Google:
"Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication"
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7 whatreallyhappened[dot]com/WRHARTICLES/fakealqaeda[dot]php
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7
/watch?v=sbkvz4hezmU
or type in youtube:
"BBC: Osama bin Laden was CIA agent & Al-Qaeda Never Existed - Invented by CIA"
These are just starting points you can take... they may not answer all of your questions, but you can do your own research online. Alex Jone's channel has many many details, proof, documented stuff.. he's not just pulling shit out of his ass... he dedicated several vids on alqaeda / cia connection.
Sorry, but I gotta go now..
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@MrHardCash None of them say where, when, and how bin Laden received his training, and none of them mention training him to hijack planes. I can find, for example, sources saying the CIA trained anti-Castro groups. I can even show you their training camps and give names of agents involved. That's what I'm asking for regarding bin Laden. Hell, some of the sources don't even mention his name!
In a separate issue, they're contradictory. Half say al Qaeda doesn't exist, half say it did.
kissfan7 2 days ago
@kissfan7 They said the "organization" as a form of "organization" with all of its meaning, doesn't exist. I believe you are referring to the BBC documentaries. Pay more attention to what is said... they don't mean alqaeda doesn't exist... they meant it as an organization, requiring the kind of action that Bush took.
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7 Like I said, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Sorry, but I don't have time to dig you sources that state where... I don't have time to dig you sources that state when... don't have time to get you sources that state how ..etc. They exist out there if you are serious about it. There are even 3 hours long documentaries with shitloads of details on where, how, when...etc.
Not here to entertain you. Do your own work.
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7 Funny thing, there isn't even one single evidence or proof backing up the US gov's offical story about Alqaeda and the hijackers, while there're loads that go against it. The US gov acted based on only "words".. what they "claimed"... no real solid evidence... and yet the majority of the americans bought into it because they assume whatever gov officials say or news stations men in suits claim = reliable info and solid proof!
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7 just thought I should end it with this one... very funny... stumbled upon it by accident:
/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y
"Hillary Clinton Admits the U.S. Government Created al-Qaeda"
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@MrHardCash Clinton doesn't even say the words "bin Laden" on that tape.
kissfan7 2 days ago
@kissfan7 I'm sorry.. but what was your specific question again? lol
Were you asking about Alqaeda or Bin Laden or the Mujahedeen? Either I'm missing something, or you're being a real smartass. My "troll-dar" is ticking.
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@kissfan7 oh, so you were searching for the words 'bin laden'? Forget Clinton's video... what about the other sources before it that mention bin laden? You didn't like their accents?
*cough* troll *cough*
MrHardCash 2 days ago
@MrHardCash Wow, you're few chairs short of a dinette set.
I asked for proof of the claim in the video, that bin Laden directly received training from the CIA that included training in hijacking planes for missiles. I'm not asking for proof that al Qaeda is whatever definition of "organization" you choose or Truther BS, I just wanted an official document about CIA training.
But you go ahead and get back to your "independent reporters". I'll let civilians answer my questions.
kissfan7 2 days ago
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kissfan7 2 days ago
Please make your own "This is America" poster :) like sxephil lol, but I think yours would be better
Mdrizzle3 1 week ago
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Voici la methode des gitans pour voler arnaquer manipuler...
Ils accusent 9 x sur 10 les arabes de leur actes, afin de divisés pour mieux regner.
L'unique chose qu'il ne font pas c'est tuer avec violence (phisiquement) et il ne manque pas d'autres methodes...
"Arnaque des gitans" sur google
La stupiditer allier a la débiliter profonde...
zitous1 1 week ago
"the assholes are allowed to win". Finally he's right! That's why this guy has so many subscribers and a whole flock of followers..
Justinian43 1 week ago
I come from a Muslim family. I'm Humanist. My sister is Atheist and she introduced me to your videos. I totally agree with you. You may hate Islam, fair enough. But you're not Islamaphobic; and I respect your opinion. People just look for something to hate. Before it was Jews, then Catholics (coincidentally I have a Catholic education), then dark skinned people and now Muslims. Because heaven forbid the human race to actually get along -_-
14ayahme 2 weeks ago 16
@14ayahme Funny thing is the Muslim issue comes straight out of the neo-con model. Neo-con theory clearly states "You need to have an enemy image in order to keep a society together".
ahhhhjjjj 5 days ago
What a total asswipe you are, sir! You are not different from the people you are so eloquently stumping at! You keep talking about 'us' Atheists, when there is no us to talk about! Atheists, agnostics and apatheists do not swarm together and speak of 'us' . You do not get that, as you do not get that america is not the (god) given country, where it all happens...yet you can not keep from refraining about america. Learn something, while you are being busy hating!
gyqz 2 weeks ago
@gyqz
Are you saying you have an erection for this guy?
BeBoBli 2 weeks ago 5
@gyqz So his entire video is invalid because he makes a generalization that all atheists have had to put up with Christianity?
crunchmetal 2 weeks ago
@gyqz You should learn that when typing 'America', you should include a capital 'A', and America is considered a free country, you retard, to hold that title, you need to tick all the main human rights, including freedom of speech and so on.
hangman994Videos 2 weeks ago
FUCKING SECRET MUSLIM!!!!!! ASSHOLE MUSLIM!!!!!!!!11!1one!!!!
EdwardJahk 2 weeks ago
banana
ESPPsycho 3 weeks ago
Why can't TJ be like this anymore..
zeroskatr11 3 weeks ago 2
So according to Pat Condell, the people who are defending the rights of Muslims to freely hold and express their opinions, regardless of how it upsets, insults or offends, are being politically correct?
OscarApollo 3 weeks ago
hahaha great.. i hate that English fuck!
he is literary pulling shit out of his ass
Alkindi90 3 weeks ago
¡Ramen!
Walabio 3 weeks ago
Holy shit. WHY DID I NOT SUB YOU BEFORE? You're the man, Amazing Atheist. Fucking logic all up in this bitch.
quatreryukami 3 weeks ago
this is an epic video
FarhanC99 3 weeks ago
what an angry individual
theSnoopieX 3 weeks ago
most atheist want to terminate religion when they don't realize that they are being just as despicable as the fundamentalist they despise. sure believing in a god is fucking stupid and we can criticize them all we want and disagree, but the minute you start wanting to control WHAT that person believes in and making them stop, you aren't just being a hypocritical and holding up a double standard.
okayjustcalmdown 1 month ago
I miss this T.J. The rational thinking, well organized and non-gimmicky T.J.
DarknessDrawsCloser 1 month ago
i agree with everything except the unbelievable retarded and ignorant anti-religion shit.
wb5704 1 month ago
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wb5704 1 month ago
dude, you're going to hell.
wb5704 1 month ago
@wb5704 "dude", There is no hell
94Cioppa 1 month ago 9
Poor cameraman.
ax9995 1 month ago
@ax9995 Hahaha, Cody is awesome. Go subscribe to him at @Saturninefilms
(If you haven´t already done that)
RagdollRalph 1 month ago
Holy shit I just reached a real conclusion:
T.J. is literally JUST AS GOOD as George Carlin, or Bill Hicks. He should go down as one of the greatest thinkers of the 21'st century. When people two or three generations down the line look back on our long-gone problems, T.J. should be treated with the same respect that we give to Mark Twain now. We're very lucky to be alive during this great surge of rationalism, the future can only get better with the amount of science we will soon have.
thewarriorsrok 1 month ago
@thewarriorsrok Well the internet is a bit different but he really is an awesome guy.
RagdollRalph 1 month ago
@RagdollRalph Format is irrelevant, it's the content that matters.
thewarriorsrok 1 month ago
@thewarriorsrok That is true, no reason to fight over it.
Peace the fuck out:D
RagdollRalph 1 month ago
@thewarriorsrok That's probably what people a 100 years ago thought as well.
donteffwitme 3 weeks ago
@thewarriorsrok sorry but no.
zeroskatr11 3 weeks ago
hands down, you should be president!
alybad69 1 month ago
...Ok.... Anyone else get goosebumps near the end of this?
Ryuzaki40 1 month ago
neckbeard
theusernameiwant 1 month ago
This guy is hilarious. I understand he's from the south. That's all I need to know up here in the big apple. He needs to let go of his anger. And start working out. Peace. Merry christmas
housing11 1 month ago
That's awesome. No other words need apply.
Killashard 1 month ago
WSH T7SS FEH ?!!!!!!!! X_X .!!
FaLoOLeY999 1 month ago
Anyone know if Pat Condell had a response to this video?
AurynThePaladin 1 month ago
I have watched this about 5 times now. And yeah, he should be president.
TheSaintRevolver 1 month ago
**Double edit**
And by 'moral objectives", I meant objective morals.
AurynThePaladin 1 month ago
To support my position in the comment below, I just found a link from TheAmazingAtheist in the sidebar titled: "Violence is the Answer"
In that video he states that violence as a means to stop Nazi Germany was all but necessary. I do not disagree with this statement.
However, in this video he states: "No one has the right to commit violence against their fellow man"
I do believe the former statement to be his true position, but for the sake of time he chose to use a short sound-bite statement.
AurynThePaladin 1 month ago
I remember seeing this video when it first came out. Thank Allah/God (lol) for open-minded people like this
Tawabzy 1 month ago
I was with him up til 4:50 "No one has the right to commit violence against their fellow man"
As an atheist, how do you defend this position? That kind of statement is purely subjective. Most people would never choose to hurt their fellow man, that isn't to say that those who have a violent disposition should not have a right to act on it. As if the line in the sand is speech: you can say anything you damn well please, you just can't cause physical pain to someone. Moral Objectives =/= Exist.
AurynThePaladin 1 month ago
@AurynThePaladin
Wow, what a fatuous thing to say.
Sorry if you still haven't figured this out, but atheism =/= moral relativism.
It only seems this way from the perspective of the theist, who thinks that morality hinges upon the deity they happen to believe in.
But that opinion, in itself, is fallacious - just because a God has an opinion on morals, and has (physical) power over humans, doesn't give his moral instructions any objectivity.
Atheism removes the law giver from the picture...
twooffour 1 month ago
@AurynThePaladin
... but it doesn't lose the objective morals that never existed in the first place.
Having that said, ANYONE voicing any value judgment is, by definition and necessity, speaking their mind. You can only speak for your own brain.
However, that doesn't mean you should allow everyone to do whatever they want.
You may call it "despotism of freedom", if you're so inclined.
Some people (of the totalitarian / tyrannical mindset) want other people to conform to their own specific...
twooffour 1 month ago
@AurynThePaladin
... values.
Others want other people to be as free and well as possible while living in societies. This mosty involves the condemnation of one human harming another (without real justification), and taking the side of the victim.
Seeing yourself as one of many, and wanting to provide everyone else with the freedoms and benefits you enjoy, or desire, is what we call a morally upright and conscious person.
Not caring about others because "murderers may want to murder"...
twooffour 1 month ago
@AurynThePaladin
... is just chicken-shit "postmodern" apathy, and simply lame.
If you want to be a relativistic prick, feel free but you have no ground criticizing others for not doing the same.
twooffour 1 month ago
I'm telling u man you're gonna continue sounding really dumb until you read some Julius Evola books.
MarciareOMarcire 1 month ago
@MarciareOMarcire
YOU sound really dumb citing a RACIST FASCIST for reading material!
Hjernespreng 1 month ago
@Hjernespreng Oh, right, let's focus on what Julis Evola has been called by his critics instead of what he actually wrote. Why don't you try looking up Evola's actual theory on racism, which is much deeper, intellectual, and intricate than any anti-racist bullshit that you leftists can come up with. Ever wonder why racism has ALWAYS been around, and the concept of equality among races is VERY recent? Oh, let me guess, because people used to be ignorant and now they're SOOOO enlightened.
MarciareOMarcire 1 month ago
@MarciareOMarcire
"I'm not racist, I just think my race is superior" Sure, skippy.
Why are these concepts recent? Why is gender equality even MORE recent, retard?
"Oh, let me guess, because people used to be ignorant and now they're SOOOO enlightened."
Uh, yeah. It is called GENETICS, and they didn't have it back then.
Guess what genetics have shown us? That there is NO DIFFERENCE between human races. The differences are so small that scientists DON'T use the word "race" as it is invalid.
Hjernespreng 1 month ago
I can't help but laugh at the idiots disagreeing with this video. Are you people really that fucking stupid? It's quite clear you don't support freedom of speech, except when it is advantageous for you. TJ is right on the money, so suck a dick, bitches.
hemanownsyou 1 month ago 57
America??? he is talkin about all the continent???? :S u mean US gringo idiot
DarkyAngeLAra 2 months ago
Theamazingatheist for president 2012
63chicago6 2 months ago
As much as I love Pat's videos, I also disagree with his stance on that "issue".
ValtronW 2 months ago
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Freedom of speech?
Hahahahahahaha!
That never existed to begin with! yeah sure, share your opinion with the people, but be careful if you value your life. I have been there and it's not beautiful.
btw good video!
LoveThailand 2 months ago
Watch youtubedoublerdotcom/12m
shit bricks
cheapkix 2 months ago
THIS MAN MUST BE PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD!
Pr0pagandaFilms 2 months ago
All I can say after 4:35 is just "damn." Good job dude!:D
Andersonian1995 2 months ago
ATHEISTS:1 Theists: 0
idontknowshutup65 2 months ago
wait waitt TJ wont muslims fight u too with even more stupidity
Abbadon380 2 months ago
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america. this is why we cant have good things
xqq1995 2 months ago
i live in canada...
brian56t 2 months ago
@brian56t ALL YOUR WEEEDS BELONGS TO US
Abbadon380 2 months ago
@Abbadon380 watch out. 95% of it is laced with meth
brian56t 2 months ago
@brian56t YESSSSSSSSS A RELAXED METH WEED RAGEEEEEEE THIS is SO fucking AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Abbadon380 2 months ago
That mosque has now been open for months.
Guess how many people give a shit?
Thank you msm...
GenerationXeroFilms 2 months ago
I do firmly agree with your argument regarding free speech.
On the other hand, I thought Rauf's credibility was strained beyond belief when he admitted, after Trump offered to buy the land from him for more than it was worth, that he'd turned down offers "three times as much". To me, that says he cares more about the location than what the community thinks.
I just wanted to note that there were reasons to be suspicious of this project other than 'I jes' hate them damn Mooslims!!'
AlexReynard 2 months ago
This has to be his best argument... some of them are silly, others are stupid, but sometimes, they are golden.
pawner150 2 months ago
Thank you for this! You are my new voice of reason idol.
singwriteminja 2 months ago
I Liked some of his arguments, but calling muslims and americans idiots went to far.
nikcsta 2 months ago
@nikcsta To real for you?
Subcidal 2 months ago
wow.. such great words.. but i personally believe in UK freedom of speech more than that which we have in the US..
how come sharia4US wasnt even allowed to hold a peaceful protest in america? how come one cant even talk about sharia publicly in america without being 1) arrested and 2) put on a nofly list or somthing?
isnt that just speaking too?
i think they only allowed the mosque and called it that way "kordoba" specificly so people can get enraged like pat did..
thats my thoery.
islamconstitution 2 months ago
@islamconstitution
also, you can be a marxist in europe but when your a socialist or communist in america you get more than what pat wants to deal muslims..
atleast they have a Hyde park.. what do we have in america?
islamconstitution 2 months ago
I love you.
nokturnal5647 2 months ago
wouldnt building a monument of the 9/11 victims burning in hell be a hate crime, or like public indecency or something?
sgtsnakeeyes11 2 months ago
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I love you sir
jamesmatthewcase 2 months ago
so i can open a butcher shop/porn shop combo next to the mosque? WOOT
sun281jon 2 months ago
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@sun281jon you can if you own the land next to the mosque.
Iamlegend1234 2 months ago
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rp1dmc 2 months ago 2
4:45 he is reaching critical mass.
TheMauso88 3 months ago
are you fucking serious the united states of america's government gave osama bin laden C.I.A training and with that training he organized the hijacking of 911 please send me your sources im not saying i don't believe what you've said but wikipedia and i know its not the best source but wikipedia says that the U.S.A have no contact let alone training at the times at of which this is believed to have happened.
once again im not trying to disprove fact if it is or not im just curious.
Bob420Marly 3 months ago
@Bob420Marly During the 1979-89 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden(a Saudi Arabian supporter of the Afghans) was trained by the CIA to allow the USA to fight the USSR in a sneaky way. It's proxy war, bud! Osama turned on the US in the '90s, but by that time he had unfortunately amassed tens of thousands of followers. And the al-Qaeda we all know and hate today was born.
True story.
EinsteinxtremeRoblox 2 months ago
@Bob420Marly It's all bullshit. Just because they tell you something, doesn't mean it's true. You can't trust anyone anymore. The last place I'd go for any sort of truth is wikipedia.
stefanoGFsiciliano 1 week ago
it will never leave the pledge or the money thats what the country was built on.
MrGladBEASTftw 3 months ago
@MrGladBEASTftw No..."the country" was not built on having it in the pledge or on the money. That is just flat out false.
OperatorOscillation 2 months ago
@MrGladBEASTftw Really. So why is it that it wasn't added to money until the Civil War (and only because they realized that both the North and South read the same bible, so it was a point of unity)... and it wasn't added to the pledge until 1954?
This country was founded by mostly diests... who didn't believe in the story of Christ, and the only reason they believed in a god AT ALL, is because there were things that we take for granted as fact that science couldn't explain.
Fortimir 2 months ago
This is one of TAA's best videos.
Neiyasaka 3 months ago
with each step the fatty takes, a victim of 9/11 turns over in his grave
MrAbe345 3 months ago
@MrAbe345 You are an idiot.
kelvingodde 3 months ago
you are out of shape ...you need to run and make the ved ..walking is not a good idea
arshadcow 3 months ago
So glad hat we arein complete ageemnt regarding that dozy old fart, it's about time he was put out of his misery and ours....
newworldodour 3 months ago
long sidewalk
NickInTheBacks 3 months ago
It's irrelevant if Islam promotes extremism or not. The first amendment is the first amendment.
ApatheticOmniscience 3 months ago
the uncivilized.
codern 3 months ago
You know what, i don't care how any of you take to this video. At the end of the day, we all know the Muslims are the plague to humanity. Fuck the American constitution in this respect. Where do we draw the line between the concept of "true freedom and the constitutional rights" when it comes to Islam? I think Pat's right. America should already form a dictatorship solely against all this Muslim bull shit. What other approach will ever do anyhting. Prediction-NOTHING! You can't be civil with
codern 3 months ago
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hoboeatscheese 3 months ago
You are epic.
Triipticz 3 months ago
The first video Cody ever directed. A hell of a way to start. TJ lost a valuable asset. Hopefully it was mutual.
JediFan421 3 months ago
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nadefnoob 3 months ago
Funny. It's over a year later, the mosque is open and yet nobody cares anymore. No more protesters complaining about it. What a bunch of fradulent outrage that whole "controversy" was.
CoolerKing37 3 months ago 99
@CoolerKing37 lol
i love things like that
zombieemperor 2 months ago
@CoolerKing37 To be fair the guy did say at some point he wasn't going to open it and the controversy died down after that. I had no idea he changed his mind.
FatherTime89 2 months ago
@CoolerKing37 lol, all it needed was a name change XD
nateparedes44 2 months ago
@CoolerKing37
Not fraudulent, but probably everyone got used to it and realized it wasn't so bad after all.
twooffour 1 month ago
1:24 -1:36~ lol'd
alloradora 3 months ago
I think its good to get exercise while ranting about causes that provoke your anger issues. America has this thing called Anger Management bro!
halocosmo 3 months ago
God you're retarded.
You remind me of the south park episodes where they just spew "I thought this was amuriiicaaaa" over and over again.
GilBelford 3 months ago
@GilBelford Seems fine to me. Everyone has the right to think and believe what they want. Pretty simple logic, don't you think?
jajison 3 months ago
@GilBelford Is this not America?
HellsVerdict 3 months ago
@GilBelford I'm not sure if you know what America is supposed to be.
SirDavis100 3 months ago
this is your best video ever.
myndwork 3 months ago
Im pretty sure you should be president.
Fonzie12343 3 months ago 120
@Fonzie12343 he'd probly get denied just cause he's a atheist.
aTF2player 2 months ago
@Fonzie12343 But he wouldn't qualify. Because he has logic.
NWFWMbudwieser 2 months ago 19
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This was the first video that Cody directed for TJ. I'm sad now.
DAmicoJohnny 3 months ago
one of your best videos BY FAR greetings from denmark where this mosque shit is also going on
comprehentionoflife 3 months ago
pat = awesome
thekingofcorsairs 3 months ago
THE PROOF THAT GOD DOESNT EXIST:
-Your fucked up life
-your fucked up childhood
-your fucked up life
MinistryOfPhreakz 3 months ago
As an Atheist, I say without hesitaiton Pat Condell is a prick; always was, seems like he always will be.
braydenbeautiful 3 months ago
@braydenbeautiful oh definitely, as an atheist myself, just watching all of Pats "horrible" videos, which lack poignancy and intellect (and good advice) it is soooo easy to see where you're coming from and you deserve all the merit for such a head strong, unemotional and in-depth comment...
codern 3 months ago
@codern
awh, thanks honey
braydenbeautiful 3 months ago
Just starting watching your videos and I think you fucking rock
devilshark500 3 months ago
I subscribed to Pat as well because I agree with some of the stuff he says. But when he released that video I thought he was wrong. I recently subscribed to you but I agree 100% with what you have said.
QBEQ8529 3 months ago
I like both TAA and Pat Condell, this makes me able to balance both of them. That's what democracy is all about!
Andreazor 3 months ago
@Andreazor
Search the term "democracy" in some encyclopedia.
aaxxes 3 months ago
@aaxxes
Search the word "nitpicking" on some encyclopedia. Possibly together with "douchebag".
Andreazor 3 months ago
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I wish I could give this thumbs up over and over and over and over and over again
Julesocarina64 3 months ago
TJ has officially joined the libtard club. Congrats, and bye.
Too much barren formalistic pseudo-philosophical chatter to make few dollars selling dvd's to other pseudo-philosophers.
Freedom for oppression, tolerance for intolerance.. concepts that used to work but not anymore. The world is changing and those who don't adapt themselves to the changes will be (as we know) extinct. Thanks to idiotic worshipers of formalism like yourself, our civilization will disappear. "But who fucking cares.."
aaxxes 3 months ago
@aaxxes
Though democracy you may fight intolerance and oppression. It is in your full power to stop it, by your own means and the own rules of your own country.
Andreazor 3 months ago
@Andreazor
I can see you haven't managed to find the meaning.
You're talking about what can be done through democracy, not knowing what democracy is.
From this point on, it is not logically possible to like the both, this political idiot and PC, which is of course not an obstacle for some people.
aaxxes 3 months ago
@aaxxes
Nothing has changed actually, according to you. Aggression and oppression towards/of the week has always be a favourite pastime of the mob; all you've done is reencarnate it.
You've also actually created a false dichotomy: civilization will disappear if we abandon our principals too. Lose-lose hunny.
braydenbeautiful 3 months ago
@braydenbeautiful
Where is my "aggression" and "oppression"? In oppossing to a giant mosque 200m from the ground zero, when it can be built on any other site in the u.s.? How about a real oppression promoted and conducted by the ideology that mosque represents? Do you know anything about Islam? What do you mean by our "principles"? Tolerance toward intolerance? Will intolerance or tolerance toward this watch?v=SycJj_XFP20 destroy the civilization? Many questions.
aaxxes 3 months ago
@aaxxes
You've answered your own question. To be tolerant you must be tolerant of intolerance. I'm not championing tolerance as the pinnacle of morality, but it is certainly a facet of it.
They have the RIGHT to build the mosque wherever the fuck they want, if they own the land.
You fail to see the humour in your own logic; oppression of oppression = enduring of civilization.
I don't think I'm the only atheist with TJ's mindset either.
braydenbeautiful 3 months ago
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braydenbeautiful 3 months ago
@aaxxes
I actually speak arabic, as I'm half arab. I can actually read the Koran in it's native language so I'd be careful who you charge with being ignorant.
Anyway, I'm going to get my balls waxed. Nighty-night.
braydenbeautiful 3 months ago
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aaxxes 3 months ago
@aaxxes
I did. First, religion is oppressive by definition; they are mental shackles. The difference between Christianity and Islam is immaterial when not adjusted for time -- Islam is where Christianity was 300-400 years ago (pre-enlightnment).
As I said, I likely know more about it than you, as I can speak Arabic.
What I mean by principals, is what TJ means: all ideas have a right to exist. Period.
I don't care about ur link. srry bbg.
Back to waxing.
pce eazy.
braydenbeautiful 3 months ago