@qwertzu3 Just the shape of a waveform. At the most basic level sound, electrical current, light, anything that travels as a wave is comprised of tens to thousands of different waveforms that follow the standard undulating curve we're used to seeing. When you combine that many different frequencies and amplitudes, you get the more jagged, random wave patterns you'd actually record with an instrument.
I disagree that "Lost In Translation" is a flat-line. Both characters gain hope that there happiness is possible for them, even if they don't currently possess it. Remember what Bill Murray's character is purported to whisper to ScarJo's at the end.
I'd disagree. What about when they find the bunker? The boy's happiness at least increases, even if the man is a little wary. Or when they find all the survival gear on the boat, before it's tragically stolen from them. These would show up as series of curves on Vonnegut's model. And the man's slowly degenerating health? That's a definite slow curve towards the bottom of the G-I axis.
I saw Kurt do this at a lecture inFlorida and he ended it graphing Hamlet and He due a straight line and then declared that Shakespeare was a bad writer.
Ha ha ha... I saw him do this live once and he added another. "Your life sucks and then damn - I'm a giant cockroach!" Curve starts low and just goes lower. Awesome. #kafka.
What's fascinating is that he had this chart in his book Palm Sunday, and gave the graph for Cinderella, and then stated that the graph for Cinderella is the same as the plot for Jesus Christ!
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u can tell this presentation was done prior to the 21st century.. how about watching movies like "Funny Games" or "Paranormal Activity" so maybe it's only true for family movies or adventures but not horrors.. but then again you have those original directors who do flashbacks like memento for example. and these movies are very appealing to me. or a really good example of a movie that doesn't fit these 3 timelines is "Rounders" starring Matt Damon where he ends up EXACTLY where he started.
@serexlol k? don't get me wrong, i respect this professor and i'm not trying to debunk him. I'm just saying movies have become much more intricate and complex and a simple graph can't always showcase them. on a side note, (aren't documentaries stories also?)
@SQLinjected This was actually his master's thesis in anthropology, and he is pretty sore about it being rejected. he believed it was about as important to analyzing a culture as pots and arrowheads.
@soupazninvasion lol, there's nothing in the storylines of movies that hasn't been done in literature 100 times before... read a book and try to be less ignorant
@soupazninvasion you can project anything to something simpler, there is just the loss of information, until it is so simple that you can't differentiate between a graph for Cinderella and one for Inception. It also depends to what relation you graph it like the case with fortune for Cinderella. You could go ahead and graph Cinderellas change in Family structure.
Funny thing is, movies became more intricate and complex BY applying statistics and formulas.
@razzor7 yes i totally agree it was retarded, at least the sequel was, but the whole point of the movie was to go see it in a good theater and hear everyone's "jump out of their seat scared reaction" and to try to immerse urself knowing it was fake. plus a cute girl clinging on to my arm and hiding her head in my chest helped.
Elsewhere Vonnegut wrote 8 rules for the short story and ended it by saying that Flannery O'Connor broke all these rules except the first, and that great writers tend to do that. The first rule was "Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted." Vonnegut's stories always did that, although the dark irony of his stories often had characters near the bottom of the chart from B to E. So it goes.
Excellent. Perfect for a first year course on the short story. You know, the unit in which you explain how artificial the traditional Western story structure is.
Great FUN! And, so very true...
NW7US 2 weeks ago
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NW7US 2 weeks ago
This video is a favorite on Oslo
cleogonzalez614 1 month ago
That was great lol
SirStephenPutman 1 month ago
this has somein to do with them fancy physics but i dunno what. alternating current maybe?
qwertzu3 2 months ago
@qwertzu3 Just the shape of a waveform. At the most basic level sound, electrical current, light, anything that travels as a wave is comprised of tens to thousands of different waveforms that follow the standard undulating curve we're used to seeing. When you combine that many different frequencies and amplitudes, you get the more jagged, random wave patterns you'd actually record with an instrument.
Nerfi 3 weeks ago
This video is a favorite on Dominica
lopezjackie515 2 months ago
the constitution provides for organization of the government but does absolutely nothing to organize the people.--kurt Vonnegut
bryncomeaux 2 months ago
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"Finds something wonderful, just loves it--oh, God damn it."
Such a funny and smart man. I read his eight rules.
Suddenly, I found my fingers writing thoughts down I'd been too scared to write before.
Thanks, Kurt. You're awesome.
hotelmario510 4 months ago
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hotelmario510 4 months ago
Thank you for posting this - he is rad.
evilartstudio 5 months ago in playlist Game Design
Wow I saw this when I was highschool didn't know who Vonnegut was at the time. Awesome
dhammond249 5 months ago 3
I disagree that "Lost In Translation" is a flat-line. Both characters gain hope that there happiness is possible for them, even if they don't currently possess it. Remember what Bill Murray's character is purported to whisper to ScarJo's at the end.
agincourtdb 5 months ago
Absolutely brilliant and hilarious at the same time!
DWineIsDvine 6 months ago
I agree. "The Road" had some curve to it. Including several shocking spikes downward. Now "Lost in Translation" was an absolute flatliner.
plexitox 6 months ago 3
the only book that i've read that has a straight curvless line is The Road by Cormac Mccarthy
llamasarus1 6 months ago 6
@llamasarus1
I'd disagree. What about when they find the bunker? The boy's happiness at least increases, even if the man is a little wary. Or when they find all the survival gear on the boat, before it's tragically stolen from them. These would show up as series of curves on Vonnegut's model. And the man's slowly degenerating health? That's a definite slow curve towards the bottom of the G-I axis.
FebruaryStar4 6 months ago 2
@llamasarus1 i guess your right. i just looked upon the book with a "theres no hope" point of view even though things got a little better
llamasarus1 6 months ago
I saw Kurt do this at a lecture inFlorida and he ended it graphing Hamlet and He due a straight line and then declared that Shakespeare was a bad writer.
unclepatrick2 6 months ago 8
Ha ha ha... I saw him do this live once and he added another. "Your life sucks and then damn - I'm a giant cockroach!" Curve starts low and just goes lower. Awesome. #kafka.
BradyDale 7 months ago 7
there are only 3 plots :
Boy meets Girl (love story)
Good vs Evil (morality tale)
Man against Himself ( gut check story)
every story is a variant or a combination of one or more of those 3
JerichoDitch2 7 months ago
Well now I've gotta read one of his books, don't I? :)
GiantPetRat 7 months ago
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yes one of the better writters out there
unclepatrick2 6 months ago
Harry Potter may also be represented by the last one.
BabyrapeMcmethlab 7 months ago
As only Kurt could tell it. He is missed.
designermite 8 months ago 5
What's fascinating is that he had this chart in his book Palm Sunday, and gave the graph for Cinderella, and then stated that the graph for Cinderella is the same as the plot for Jesus Christ!
ScienceMusicLove 8 months ago 12
5 people dont like dry humor
ch604 9 months ago 3
@ch604 More likely they don't understand it.
karinablacktie 7 months ago
It's hard to cut between the studeny crap, and the omg vonnegut is in touch with my soul crap on this vid...either way, Kurt Jr. rocks.
SimoMcGauneo 9 months ago 2
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juliedoyleable 9 months ago
at the start i thought the womans voice was his haha
121314HUNTER 9 months ago
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u can tell this presentation was done prior to the 21st century.. how about watching movies like "Funny Games" or "Paranormal Activity" so maybe it's only true for family movies or adventures but not horrors.. but then again you have those original directors who do flashbacks like memento for example. and these movies are very appealing to me. or a really good example of a movie that doesn't fit these 3 timelines is "Rounders" starring Matt Damon where he ends up EXACTLY where he started.
soupazninvasion 9 months ago
@soupazninvasion ok
serexlol 9 months ago
@serexlol k? don't get me wrong, i respect this professor and i'm not trying to debunk him. I'm just saying movies have become much more intricate and complex and a simple graph can't always showcase them. on a side note, (aren't documentaries stories also?)
soupazninvasion 9 months ago
@soupazninvasion It's not really meant to be taken seriously or analyzed, he meant it as satire.
SQLinjected 9 months ago 3
@SQLinjected This was actually his master's thesis in anthropology, and he is pretty sore about it being rejected. he believed it was about as important to analyzing a culture as pots and arrowheads.
vista777 8 months ago
@soupazninvasion lol, there's nothing in the storylines of movies that hasn't been done in literature 100 times before... read a book and try to be less ignorant
horsedoctorman 9 months ago
@soupazninvasion you can project anything to something simpler, there is just the loss of information, until it is so simple that you can't differentiate between a graph for Cinderella and one for Inception. It also depends to what relation you graph it like the case with fortune for Cinderella. You could go ahead and graph Cinderellas change in Family structure.
Funny thing is, movies became more intricate and complex BY applying statistics and formulas.
Jeru3 9 months ago
@soupazninvasion paranormal activity was retarded.
razzor7 9 months ago
@razzor7 yes i totally agree it was retarded, at least the sequel was, but the whole point of the movie was to go see it in a good theater and hear everyone's "jump out of their seat scared reaction" and to try to immerse urself knowing it was fake. plus a cute girl clinging on to my arm and hiding her head in my chest helped.
soupazninvasion 9 months ago
The whole second half of the video I was thinking about the amount of shitty movies that use that premise.
pliskin100 9 months ago
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successfulencore 9 months ago
1 person disliked this because they wanted to be the only one to do so.
successfulencore 9 months ago
Where does Grave of the Fireflies fit into this? Does it start below B and just continue to go to the floor?
kiblespoop 9 months ago 10
And Cinderella and the Prince achieve off-scale happiness. The End.
I like the sound of that.
SovietNinjah 9 months ago 3
"Finds something wonderful, just loves it... oh god damn it!"
I have to read his books. *fire up google*
marble1992 9 months ago 16
Cerealy, we need moar of dis!
k1awdttt 9 months ago
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like a burned out professor, as always. This would have disappointed me in gradeschool
theseanze 9 months ago
where's the rest of the presentation???
epignosis567 9 months ago 8
Kurt/Glenn mashup at the end there. Just about blew my mind.
jlthopper 9 months ago
Oh God damn it!
jlthopper 9 months ago 9
Elsewhere Vonnegut wrote 8 rules for the short story and ended it by saying that Flannery O'Connor broke all these rules except the first, and that great writers tend to do that. The first rule was "Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted." Vonnegut's stories always did that, although the dark irony of his stories often had characters near the bottom of the chart from B to E. So it goes.
kstrehlo 9 months ago 6
Is there more? I could have listened to this for hours.
lifeinaustin 9 months ago 6
"Off-scale happiness" sounds a lot better than "lives happily ever after"
Tujdosen 9 months ago 195
Kafka works and Kurt knows why... love it.
dagmand 9 months ago
this guy is so wasted
ripsaw111 10 months ago
@ripsaw111 yr a dumbarse
vernskags 10 months ago
genius!
psteels 10 months ago
Excellent. Perfect for a first year course on the short story. You know, the unit in which you explain how artificial the traditional Western story structure is.
issyvoo2 11 months ago
What about Primer?!
JJEMTT 11 months ago 108
@JJEMTT thats got to be graphed on the complex axis and is best described by a differential equation because no one line can describe that movie
matty0mck 9 months ago
@JJEMTT Computers tend to suck at scatter plots
WingedDrant 9 months ago
No love for Kafka and Shakespeare this time?
braceo 11 months ago
@braceo in his book "A Man Without a Country" he goes deeper into this story shape thing, and goes into why Kafka works.
Arachnaboy 10 months ago
He kills me.
choreom 11 months ago
The secret has been formulated so that any can digest it.
fugamante 11 months ago
Thank you.
Saxonation 1 year ago