the design is just for simple aerodynamics improvements any box shape going over 20mph has to overcome lots of drag (air resistants) its been long know that normal diesel trucks could save 20% on fuel consumption if they were more curved in front and back.
reasons they haven't are length issues & accessibility, and design preference - looking at these comments it seams that a cultural masculine identity assumed 'mean boxy' image of how a truck should look
@GFS05np more design tastes can be added, but if you really think about it most commercial trucks are designed for just doing the job and are sorta ugly (exp, ups' 50yr old truck.) aerodynamics is what make fighter jets look awesome , yet wouldn't want to degrade it by making it more boxy, so why not make the trucks save on energy use cost with just little exterior improvements, could save billions of gallons of diesel each year.
Nice now will these be elsewhere in United States in the future we need greener transportation. Bring on the electric vehicles so America doesn't run on gas and foreign oil anymore.
Ugly - yes. Stupid music - yes. Big deal. Think of this all electric truck as a concept car, not ready for prime time. Once the demand is there, the price will come down, the range will improve, and the design will be cool. And to complete the loop you throw some solar on your roof and recharge your vehicle with your own energy production company. Closed loop system. Get it. It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. It's common sense not to support oil nations who hate us.
Green is HIGHLY INEFFICIENT & EXPENSIVE... a way to force the consumer into buying more than they don't need through "the sky is falling" scare tactics. 120 miles at say what 55mph max? Then you get 8 hours of down time to recharge off of an electrical grid that is a century out of date, overloaded & stressed. Lastly, make it look like a truck & not "Dumb & Dumber."
It may seem expensive right now because its using new technology. Refueling the car is far far cheaper than gas engines are. Green is actually very efficient, do you realize how much gas and oil is spent just to transport your gas and oil to you? People die, cities get demolished just so you can enjoy your polluting cars and trucks... You call that efficient? The grid can transport energy to you with zero pollutants in a matter of seconds. How is that inefficient?
To paraphrase: Judge not, lest him whom ye judge, judge thee. As he/she expres-ses a judgemental opinion about me, especially a negative, or unfair one, it causes me, as, I suppose it does most anyone, to focus more sharply on that critic, looking for his/her own flaws and, usually, finding some. Interesting how many people who are harshly critical of others reveal their own nasty person-alities and inablility to spell!
so pathetic these people making these videos acting like there helping the envirment for those of who think that READ THIS U IGNORANT PEOPLE k just in the elc motors alone there could be 100lbs of copper, tons of zinc in the batteries to get that we need to mine bring in big deisel rigs k so ill drive my 84 yota on 35s noing im having fun and not being some tard in a prius fucking libarals!!!
What about your gas counterpart? no pollutants? Simple design? no wars fought over resources for it (this means no people died)? no transportation of fuel and oil? no heavy complex tranny? You cant say no to any of these... do you what can say yes though? electric cars. I know your response:
"f#cking liberals and their agendas of equality for all and caring about the very thing we need to survive. All that matters is what I want! ME ME ME!"
it looks like a train! the center steering is retarded though, but "car designers" are not the brightest!?! look at General Motors Aztek! whoever designed that should be kicked in the ass for every one that hit the street.
Seems like a great idea... except why would they put the driver's seat right behind the big support pole. You would think you could see a lot more if they moved it to one side or the other.
Great Truck! Who cares how it looks. With solar charging stations installed at the companies that would use these truck, these would truly help the planet and the companies' bottom line!
This sucks! This looks like something that you would find in spineless France or someplace made up of Greenies! I would like to see how it would hold up to a Peterbilt 379 head on! It would be like watching Betty White getting tackled on a super bowl commercial. The only difference is that we love Betty White.
For local deliveries in a place as congested as New York City, this would be terrific; those trucks don't go more than 50 miles a day; no one is saying that they should be used for "over-the-road" trucking.
what it takes to make these fuckin things will blow ur mind. Like the batteries in the prius what it takes to make them is actually fucking terrible for the enviroment. Yea good luck tryin to properly dispose of this shit once its done. Until then me and my 6.0 powerstroke will continue to roll coal and make up for these fuckin things.
Let's drive my emission free vehicle around. Oh! Now it need's charging! Let go home and plug it in to my house which get it's electricity from a coal burning plant! LOL!
OH yes...... great how they don't pollute...... NOT!!!!!! Nobody mentions how toxic these batteries are. The battery in your prius is so toxic they can't find a way to dispose of it. I can't imagine how toxic these things are. Explain how these are more "so-called" ECO friendly? Can't wait to hear your lies so reply ASAP!!!!!
this outfit can make this great product and GM sucks hind tit for 80 or 100 years selling us garbage like the corrsica chevettes corvettes corvairs and Obama meat hd gives them billions to keep on dispencing cars no one wants Im a dam plumber and in 3 years with 200k I could have a car that people would want that runs on electric what a rigged world this is we need to yank all those morons out of office and put our neighbors in there
before you start mouthing off, get the facts straight. Find out how much this truck costs, what the top speed is, and ask yourself, if you would buy a car with these characteristics. Developing a commuter delivery truck is a far cry from a consumer grade EV meeting or exceeding all safety/comfort standards, having practical speed, and range, and a price to sell. That's the reason we don't have one to this day. Not a single company in the world has managed to come up with one yet.
"no oil. no pollution. no problem" it says on the side.
That's pretty damned disingenuous. Electricity doesn't come from nowhere. It's being made for you in a power plant somewhere, possibly with natural gas, or possibly with coal. There's plenty of pollution being generated, it just isn't your problem when you own an electric vehicle, right?
I love the idea, but really, people, let's get off this nonsense that an electric vehicle produces no pollution.
The pollution generated to power an electric vehicle is a small fraction of what an ICE powered vehicle would produce. The Tesla Roadster for example gets the equivalent of 99 mpg (based on the amount of pollution created to make the power to charge it) while the ICE powered Lotus that it's based on gets about 20 mpg.
well the one problem everyone is missing, how huge is the electric bill gunna be? I Care about the world too but fuck that would be sooo expensive to charge
I hate to tell ya this, but no it's not. You have to recharge far more often than you have to fill up for the same amount of driving (especially in hilly terrain). And, you don't have to change your fuel system out after a year or so, whereas batteries will fail after around 150-300 charges.
No, the BATTERY-POWERED electric car isn't the answer. Never has been.
Actually a something like the Tesla costs about 4 or 5 dollars to get 200 miles range out of while the Elise, which the Tesla is based on, costs about 30 dollars to go the same distance. The Aptera costs about 50 cents per 100 miles while the Smart car costs about $7 to go the same distance.
You should understand that electric cars make MUCH more efficient use of the energy that is put into them compared to ICE powered vehicles.
Batteries are expected to last about 100,000 miles in most EVs.
If you drive the ICE Elise normally and the Tesla like a gramma, you might have something.
Drive them both the same, however, and the ICE gets better mileage. THAT'S A FACT. Proven regardless of car manufacturer, even between standard and hybrid versions OF THE SAME CAR.
I'm not against different technologies; I just know from everything that's been tried over the last 80 or so years that battery cars isn't the way to go.
You obviously haven't seen ANY facts on this subject.
An ICE is only about 35% efficient at turning fuel into mechanical energy while an electric motor is about 90-95% efficient. It is ALWAYS less expensive to perform mechanical work with an electric motor than an ICE. Ever consider why electric motors are used to run machinery in a factory and not ICEs?
Another correction: petro fuels have around 10x the energy density of batteries, and around 4X that of H2 fuel cells. Considering the amount of work you want the EV to take on, your battery calculations don't make it.
Real-life work cycles of your aforementioned industrial EVs (narrow aisle forklifts being the best example) show that the per-hour cost to run them and repair them is around 5-11% MORE than an equivalent NG-powered forklift.
What does energy density have to do with cost? EVs use less energy than ICE vehicles and they use energy that costs less, it's as simple as that. Over the lifetime of an EV the operating cost might be more because of the cost of replacing the battery, but it's well worth it. The reduced maintenance alone makes EVs attractive to me.
With an EV and a well designed solar energy system your home and vehicle could be completely independent of big oil and any kind of energy utility company.
To do the same amount of work, they BOTH use the same amount of energy. Your argument is flawed in that you're merely assuming that the only cost would be charging. That's not the way it works at all.
With batteries, there is a 'stepping' that the controller uses to maintain a constant current to the load (in this case, a motor). Since the battery will never reach full charge, and older batteries leak charge, you're not anywhere near as efficient as you think.
As you can see, the efficiency number you spouted has nothing to do with real-world physics, where an electrical system is no more of a closed loop than a petro-based one. The difference? There's a set of standards and infrastructure for ICE vehicles. There's nothing even close to that for EVs.
All in all, with losses associated with power generation, distribution, vehicle charging, inverter efficiency and motor efficiency, an electric car is about 28% efficient.
An ICE vehicle, after losses from fuel refining, transporting, and the overall vehicle efficiency is about 14% efficient.
So an EV is about twice as efficient as an ICE vehicle.
There is a massive infrastructure for EVs, everyone in the US has an outlet in their home!
To do the same amount of work both use the same amount of energy? Are you retarded? Do you not understand 95% efficiency compared to 25% efficiency? Most of the energy put into an ICE leaves the engine as waste heat through the exhaust and radiator! There's no "stepping" controller but there is an inverter used in EVs and it too has an efficiency of about 95%.
I think you need to look up what efficiency means because you have no idea what you're saying here.
Do you understand the difference between testing efficiency in the vacuum of a lab and real world use? Apparently not. Also, the electric motor creates heat and fails if not cooled properly or governed.
And EVERY commercial electric vehicle has a STEPPING CONTROLLER to maintain a certain voltage to the motor throughout the discharge cycle of the battery pack. When you get out of the world of spit and bailing wire, and into the world of serious EVs, you might have more to spout about.
Sorry buddy, but people actually use EVs in the real world and they live up to their claims. Anyway, the fact that you don't understand that nearly all of these things can be worked well before anything has been produced is hilarious. Engineers don't spend years in school for nothing!
I think it's more like 50-70% more compared to LPG and NG fklifts. At least these are the stats for the biggest home improvement retailer in the world that I worked for.
I could only go off the info averaged between three different companies I used to work for. I wouldn't doubt your numbers, though. Electrics in the real world don't have a great reliability or durability record compared with ICE equipment.
I can see it now. A dispatcher using this as an exuse. SORRY sir, My driver ran out of electricity and needs a power up. Your direct service package will be delayed.
The Kenworth T 270 is not a combination vehicle (an 18 wheeler), it's a six wheel, straight body delivery van. It's rated as medium duty w/ 26K lbs gross weight and it would take THREE of them to replace one 18 wheeler's payload capacity.
Hmm, What happens at the mines where the (either) lead or nickle are dug from the earth to make the batteries? What we REALLY need is a vehicle that runs on organic fairy farts.
think of all the TRILLIONS of Dollars WASTED in the development of the Internal combustion engine and STILL at best 20% efficient in transduction of chemical energy to mechanical energy and the other 80% as WASTED HEAT.... whereas the electric motor is 90% efficient in transduction of electrical energy to mechanical energy...
Oh BTW the Lithium battery is being produced a relative LOW COST and the SUPER CAPACITOR is on the horizon
Railmogul, are you kidding? How far does a delivery truck go everyday doing its rounds? 60 miles? 80? How long does a delivery truck sit overnight waiting for its shift to start? 12 hours? Maybe 16 hours if the boss is not abusive. What more do you want?
David, 60-80 miles is actually a very SHORT delivery route. If you ever find a UPS driver who will tell you (they're mum on company details) it's more. The time I drove a local only truck, I did 120-130 a day inside a big city and never on an interstate.
Taxes are essential? I don't know about your household but my family would be able to afford more if there was less taxes. Less wasteful Gov't spending! If you want to drive a smart car go ahead, not me....I'm talking about the trucking industry & you respond with some Supercar, stay with the debate! One day we will all stand in front of our maker and give an account. of course God wants us to be good stewards of our natural resources but that doesn't mean we put "mother nature" ahead of God....
Counterproductive is making unrealistic engine emmision standards so you can't get power out of them. Forcing operators to use even more fuel.Sure doesn't look like you can haul too much in this electric truck! Counterproductive is cap & trade (TAX) what a joke ! I guess the only good polution is the polution that is taxed. No matter how much you ECO-freaks try and save yourself ,one day we will all find out who is really in charge and will answer to him..
Fucking retard you too, not all electricity comes from fossil fuel you amateur, a lot of areas have hydroelectric or nuclear power plants. And besides, eve fossil fuel fired powerplants are nearly 95% efficient (vs. 40% for an internal combustion engine).
"At 120 miles it's not practical, except for a small niche market. A truck will easily travel 150-200 miles in a day making deliveries in a large metropolitan area."
Baloney.
I would bet UPS and FEDEX will be the biggest buyers of this truck.
Yeah, it probably has nothing to do with all of the millions of vehicles on the road that constantly pump huge amounts of carcinogens into the atmosphere.
Nonsense. This urban myth of electromagnetic fields causing cancer was started by an unethical researcher, Robert P. Liburdy, formerly of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. When no one else could replicate his "results", the hoax was exposed and he was fired. Nonetheless, the lie lives on.
What about people that live next to power lines, people are more prone to get cancer, because the electricity is in the air, and just think, all these electronics could trigger something.
Check your facts. The ones that retire at "40 or something like that" do so because they're chain-smokers and/or alcoholics, and get lung cancer and cirrhosis of the liver, not because of electric fields.
At 120 miles it's not practical, except for a small niche market. A truck will easily travel 150-200 miles in a day making deliveries in a large metropolitan area. Let's talk again when the range is boosted to 250+miles on a fresh set of batteries and recharge times fall below 4 hours.
The largest delivery fleets have their routes divided by range and this would cover about 75% of the routes. This could also be quick charged on a driver's lunch hour, likewise if range is really THE hindrance to use then an Onan Biodiesel generator could be added as a plug and play option. Additionally the payback at present day fuel prices is 2-4 years.
The answer is in quick change battery packs and not in sitting for hours on end, unless at the end of the day, so that way time isn't wasted. Once you standardize on a particular pack or number of packs per the vehicle type then you can quit worrying about charge times.
Not really practicle untill they are cheaper, (i thought i heard some law that every 10 years, the technology doubles and the cost cuts in half, meaning cars that go twice as far as today will be around the same price but will be more worth it....but progression is slow when nobody has spare millions anymore)
Only in Boulder would someone want to drive an electric truck. One of the reasons I modified my Corvette to tow a boat trailer was because I didn't want to get a slow SUV. Plus I get 25-26 miles per gallon pulling a trailer. There are just too many annoying tree huggers in boulder, and unfortunately broomfield gets the overflow nuts.
People are interested in these kinds of vehicles EVERYWHERE. The design of EVs and hybrids are becoming more refined and more practical. Check out the Ebus.
We all better become "tree huggers" pretty damn soon. We are literally running out of room too grow food VERY rapidly and the hotter it gets the less land will be arable.
While a solar panel could provide a little benefit, it would not be able to generate enough power to really do anything. RVs have solar panels to keep their batteries charged, but the shear amount of power required to propel a vehicle would be no match for a solar panel. You could possibly use a solar panel to run the air conditioning or something, but that is about it unless you had a truck the size of a 747 and the mass of a golf cart.
And have you seen a solar car? It is like a billboard turned flat with wheels so that it can get enough surface area to provide power. Plus they are made out of light materials like carbon fiber....a far cry from something the size of a delivery truck. There is no way solar cells could provide enough power to propel a large delivery truck.
Is the World Solar Challenge the race that crosses Australia?
It's stupid to think this truck could be charged by a solar collector that was mounted on it. An array installed on the building where this truck would charge could easily offset the power requirement for this vehicle.
According to their website, the Chevy Volt can only go 40 miles on electricity alone. Somehow I've got a feeling that this truck's 120 mile range means that it has absolutely nothing in it and is going downhill.
120 mile range means stop and go around town OR at 50-65 mph on the highway tested with 60% loading up and down the hills of the front range of Colorado. The Chevy Volt has a much smaller battery pack. Our team absolutly despises vaporware and false claims. Any party who is seriously interested can fly in and drive this one.
makes no difference...we could go green completely and it would have no effect...china and indonesia build 25 coal burning plants per day...plus electricitys backup is coal
1 coal burning plant produces 600 million tons of waste per year...now multply that by every week and you have 9100 billion tons of waste and pollution into the air
I love electric drive technology. We need more of these in urban areas. Ever sit behind an idling diesel delivery truck in stop and go traffic?... yuck. I have to say, though. Those are the tiniest wheels I've ever seen on a truck.
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multimaghrabi 2 months ago
@epictree what do you do when the wind isn't blowing? sit around in the dark?
johns78c 3 months ago
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woooooooow i had to thumb up this video
bonds911 8 months ago
its looks like its copied from Chinese Style Vehicles.....
watup2154 11 months ago
the design is just for simple aerodynamics improvements any box shape going over 20mph has to overcome lots of drag (air resistants) its been long know that normal diesel trucks could save 20% on fuel consumption if they were more curved in front and back.
reasons they haven't are length issues & accessibility, and design preference - looking at these comments it seams that a cultural masculine identity assumed 'mean boxy' image of how a truck should look
prototype can improve on look yes
GFS05np 1 year ago
@GFS05np more design tastes can be added, but if you really think about it most commercial trucks are designed for just doing the job and are sorta ugly (exp, ups' 50yr old truck.) aerodynamics is what make fighter jets look awesome , yet wouldn't want to degrade it by making it more boxy, so why not make the trucks save on energy use cost with just little exterior improvements, could save billions of gallons of diesel each year.
GFS05np 1 year ago
120 miles range when new, when empty, and when driving 0-20 miles an hour?
What does it do with a load when you have to drive hills? 30 miles driving and then down for 8 hours?
daw162 1 year ago
Nice now will these be elsewhere in United States in the future we need greener transportation. Bring on the electric vehicles so America doesn't run on gas and foreign oil anymore.
PolishExplorer 1 year ago
How long is the extension cord & why do they have to make it look so sad :(
JacanaProductions 1 year ago
make one that looks decent...... why do Green vehicle allays look hideous??
HydrogenMind 1 year ago
Pollution free. Gasoline Free. And best of all, Oil free.
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago
Its time to cut on dependency...great thinking...
pachobotas 1 year ago
120 mile range? With how much payload in weight and at how many MPH?
707westy 1 year ago
this truck is cool nd everything but this truck is the reason the word "fuck ugly" was created.
thebronxisnumber1 1 year ago
cool dude, from Oahu.
edgh1000 1 year ago
cool duse, from Oahu.
edgh1000 1 year ago
Was it inspired on the Modec now Navistar eStar?youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1BaheLzaA
agbueno 1 year ago
not a truck. its a van.
mick0438 1 year ago
Quiet electric cars = more deaths of blind people trying to cross the street.
mikester9er 1 year ago
@mikester9er We will equip them with horns that blow all the time they are moving.
peterpocasset 1 year ago
Ugly - yes. Stupid music - yes. Big deal. Think of this all electric truck as a concept car, not ready for prime time. Once the demand is there, the price will come down, the range will improve, and the design will be cool. And to complete the loop you throw some solar on your roof and recharge your vehicle with your own energy production company. Closed loop system. Get it. It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. It's common sense not to support oil nations who hate us.
thomasmcosgrove 1 year ago
sure is a ugly fucker.....
wilatemodel 1 year ago
ditch the stupid music and freakin TALK can't you do that or would that take thought, facts particulars, weight cost stpid !!!!
oss5futuretrunks 1 year ago
doent it kinda defeat the point if the following filming vehicle is an SUV?
monkey192100 1 year ago
I think it's kind of cute, actually.
cocomash 1 year ago
Green is HIGHLY INEFFICIENT & EXPENSIVE... a way to force the consumer into buying more than they don't need through "the sky is falling" scare tactics. 120 miles at say what 55mph max? Then you get 8 hours of down time to recharge off of an electrical grid that is a century out of date, overloaded & stressed. Lastly, make it look like a truck & not "Dumb & Dumber."
CurtisTuch 1 year ago
@CurtisTuch
It may seem expensive right now because its using new technology. Refueling the car is far far cheaper than gas engines are. Green is actually very efficient, do you realize how much gas and oil is spent just to transport your gas and oil to you? People die, cities get demolished just so you can enjoy your polluting cars and trucks... You call that efficient? The grid can transport energy to you with zero pollutants in a matter of seconds. How is that inefficient?
surreal5335 1 year ago
@CurtisTuch I think your comments are reflective of your ignorance.
We do live in a world of limited time and limited resources.
shandcunt 1 year ago
To paraphrase: Judge not, lest him whom ye judge, judge thee. As he/she expres-ses a judgemental opinion about me, especially a negative, or unfair one, it causes me, as, I suppose it does most anyone, to focus more sharply on that critic, looking for his/her own flaws and, usually, finding some. Interesting how many people who are harshly critical of others reveal their own nasty person-alities and inablility to spell!
Myrtle791 1 year ago
so pathetic these people making these videos acting like there helping the envirment for those of who think that READ THIS U IGNORANT PEOPLE k just in the elc motors alone there could be 100lbs of copper, tons of zinc in the batteries to get that we need to mine bring in big deisel rigs k so ill drive my 84 yota on 35s noing im having fun and not being some tard in a prius fucking libarals!!!
GeaserakaErik 1 year ago
@GeaserakaErik
What about your gas counterpart? no pollutants? Simple design? no wars fought over resources for it (this means no people died)? no transportation of fuel and oil? no heavy complex tranny? You cant say no to any of these... do you what can say yes though? electric cars. I know your response:
"f#cking liberals and their agendas of equality for all and caring about the very thing we need to survive. All that matters is what I want! ME ME ME!"
surreal5335 1 year ago
I'm guessing that the only cargo it holds is batteries, lol
jdgator95 1 year ago
It's about time
nogascars 1 year ago
do me a favor and change the name of this vid to "ugly as bloody hell truck boulder EV" it would suit it much better.
biggestMetallicAfan 1 year ago
cargo van full of batteries, lol
sbeer6er 1 year ago
it looks like a train! the center steering is retarded though, but "car designers" are not the brightest!?! look at General Motors Aztek! whoever designed that should be kicked in the ass for every one that hit the street.
thevulgarianz 1 year ago
Seems like a great idea... except why would they put the driver's seat right behind the big support pole. You would think you could see a lot more if they moved it to one side or the other.
VOLFFAS 1 year ago
Electric trucks for local deliveries makes all the sense in the world; they're driven few miles; they mostly just idle in traffic.
SatchmoSings 1 year ago 2
Great Truck! Who cares how it looks. With solar charging stations installed at the companies that would use these truck, these would truly help the planet and the companies' bottom line!
Samt1958 1 year ago 2
unless its charge by green energy its more bad for the eco system
caltrain2 1 year ago 2
caltrain2-
Not necessarily; they would be charged "off-peak" at low-levels at night time.
Still, green is always better.
The more we make an effort to "go green" the sooner either the increments or break-through will come.
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
hahhaha, looks like FROG ! ! ! ! Ugly as hell !!! OMG
vrso2 1 year ago
All i can say is thank god for real diesels with real towing power.
CJO740 1 year ago
Most Electric motors have very high torque and can pull trailers with ease.
homeschool74 1 year ago
all i can say is its butt ugly and i agree route379west
nspboarder 1 year ago
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cafface 1 year ago
This sucks! This looks like something that you would find in spineless France or someplace made up of Greenies! I would like to see how it would hold up to a Peterbilt 379 head on! It would be like watching Betty White getting tackled on a super bowl commercial. The only difference is that we love Betty White.
route379west 1 year ago 2
route379west--
For local deliveries in a place as congested as New York City, this would be terrific; those trucks don't go more than 50 miles a day; no one is saying that they should be used for "over-the-road" trucking.
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
what it takes to make these fuckin things will blow ur mind. Like the batteries in the prius what it takes to make them is actually fucking terrible for the enviroment. Yea good luck tryin to properly dispose of this shit once its done. Until then me and my 6.0 powerstroke will continue to roll coal and make up for these fuckin things.
znofxz 1 year ago
@stephenrichy But they don't hurt the Earth. Thats all that matters.
MegaHolymoly 1 year ago
looks like a trolley from the front view
ravinago 1 year ago
Great, now make it look like a real vehicle and market it as a workhorse rather than a environment saver.
RainJetSprinklers 2 years ago 2
its designed that way for aerodynamics, and they are already marketing it as a delivery truck
timpedersen 2 years ago
at least these comments are from SELF-proclaimed rednecks...
anyway, great vehicle! the amount of oil and emissions these will displace is staggering. congrats!
sockosockosocko 2 years ago
@sockosockosocko Is it staggering? How is the electricity being produced? Natural gas turbines? Coal? Hydro or Nuclear?
adriaan880121958 1 year ago
any source is cleaner. gas car 18% efficient, electric car 90% efficient
sockosockosocko 1 year ago
@jimmydcap I agree, I'll stick to semi's and straight trucks.
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gayest thing ever. USE GAS!!! it works good
StraightOutOfBordom 2 years ago
Has a nice view from the cabin.... Seems alright, if it works use it, why not.
Does this thing run well in the snow or on ice? How long does the battery last?
I'm pretty sure solar panels on top of it would barely make up for the energy it uses.
ZOMGsound 2 years ago
@jimmydcap
Funny thing is, UPS will probably use these as their future van
krnz3 2 years ago
@krnz3 I bet they will.
jimmydcap 2 years ago
@krnz3 They'd better work on a longer range for UPS.
adriaan880121958 1 year ago
UPS actually uses electric trucks in new york city...
chrisinmainz 1 year ago
Let's drive my emission free vehicle around. Oh! Now it need's charging! Let go home and plug it in to my house which get it's electricity from a coal burning plant! LOL!
k313k 2 years ago 2
Go back to the Trucks on My channel all 4x4 Rednecks
TheOutlawVideoSS 2 years ago 3
not bad at all. if you could have given a better design that would be better. good concept though
JUKIO01 2 years ago
oh ya, and if you put solar panels on the top, the light ones, you can charge it while on the go
JUKIO01 2 years ago
This is so gratuitously hideous that I couldn't help but watch the video.
They'll sell a million.
AshtonPhoto 2 years ago
Thank you for not polluting.
Time to work on replacing coal.
For now I'm a proud user of wind energy.
The more positive people who are involved
the more sustainable this world will become.
ericptree 2 years ago 8
@ericptree wind energy contributes 1% of the energy in the US. We will use fossil fuels until we destroy the planet.
peterpocasset 1 year ago
@ericptree
OH yes...... great how they don't pollute...... NOT!!!!!! Nobody mentions how toxic these batteries are. The battery in your prius is so toxic they can't find a way to dispose of it. I can't imagine how toxic these things are. Explain how these are more "so-called" ECO friendly? Can't wait to hear your lies so reply ASAP!!!!!
721069 1 year ago
@721069 as if gas is better
AgrivatedKillah 1 year ago
@AgrivatedKillah
500 Times better then these batteries!!!
721069 1 year ago
@721069 stop ass kissing gas, alternative fuels are better
AgrivatedKillah 1 year ago
@AgrivatedKillah
You sure gas isn't alternative? You better check again.
721069 1 year ago
@721069 Sorry for the name calling.
but do you mean the gas we drive now?
or other less harmful gases?
Should of asked you that ages ago.
AgrivatedKillah 1 year ago
@AgrivatedKillah
Yes I'm talking about the gasses we drive now.
721069 1 year ago
@ericptree
Just remember: carbon dioxide is plant fertilizer. If you have your wish, crop yields will go down globally.
Bio-genic diesel fuel uses super levels of CO(2) to work.
What's really wrong with coal is the radio-nuclides released and the soot.
It's Chinese soot that is melting the northern ice fields.
It's Chinese air pollution that is ruining Chinese health.
BTW, they are exempt from all treaties WRT environment!
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13KimChiVN 2 years ago
this outfit can make this great product and GM sucks hind tit for 80 or 100 years selling us garbage like the corrsica chevettes corvettes corvairs and Obama meat hd gives them billions to keep on dispencing cars no one wants Im a dam plumber and in 3 years with 200k I could have a car that people would want that runs on electric what a rigged world this is we need to yank all those morons out of office and put our neighbors in there
WELLGURU 2 years ago
before you start mouthing off, get the facts straight. Find out how much this truck costs, what the top speed is, and ask yourself, if you would buy a car with these characteristics. Developing a commuter delivery truck is a far cry from a consumer grade EV meeting or exceeding all safety/comfort standards, having practical speed, and range, and a price to sell. That's the reason we don't have one to this day. Not a single company in the world has managed to come up with one yet.
Ukrainatrain 2 years ago
thats great although there is not much for knee bolsters ouch
what is the cost of such a truck? what type and how much room does the batteries take up ?
WELLGURU 2 years ago
Looks like he's driving a upside down bathtub with wheels lol.
OCDGamer 2 years ago
"no oil. no pollution. no problem" it says on the side.
That's pretty damned disingenuous. Electricity doesn't come from nowhere. It's being made for you in a power plant somewhere, possibly with natural gas, or possibly with coal. There's plenty of pollution being generated, it just isn't your problem when you own an electric vehicle, right?
I love the idea, but really, people, let's get off this nonsense that an electric vehicle produces no pollution.
seateapea 2 years ago
The pollution generated to power an electric vehicle is a small fraction of what an ICE powered vehicle would produce. The Tesla Roadster for example gets the equivalent of 99 mpg (based on the amount of pollution created to make the power to charge it) while the ICE powered Lotus that it's based on gets about 20 mpg.
idontcare80 2 years ago
well the one problem everyone is missing, how huge is the electric bill gunna be? I Care about the world too but fuck that would be sooo expensive to charge
ryanark12345 2 years ago
It's much less expensive to charge an electric car than to buy gasoline.
idontcare80 2 years ago
I hate to tell ya this, but no it's not. You have to recharge far more often than you have to fill up for the same amount of driving (especially in hilly terrain). And, you don't have to change your fuel system out after a year or so, whereas batteries will fail after around 150-300 charges.
No, the BATTERY-POWERED electric car isn't the answer. Never has been.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Actually a something like the Tesla costs about 4 or 5 dollars to get 200 miles range out of while the Elise, which the Tesla is based on, costs about 30 dollars to go the same distance. The Aptera costs about 50 cents per 100 miles while the Smart car costs about $7 to go the same distance.
You should understand that electric cars make MUCH more efficient use of the energy that is put into them compared to ICE powered vehicles.
Batteries are expected to last about 100,000 miles in most EVs.
idontcare80 2 years ago
If you drive the ICE Elise normally and the Tesla like a gramma, you might have something.
Drive them both the same, however, and the ICE gets better mileage. THAT'S A FACT. Proven regardless of car manufacturer, even between standard and hybrid versions OF THE SAME CAR.
I'm not against different technologies; I just know from everything that's been tried over the last 80 or so years that battery cars isn't the way to go.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
You obviously haven't seen ANY facts on this subject.
An ICE is only about 35% efficient at turning fuel into mechanical energy while an electric motor is about 90-95% efficient. It is ALWAYS less expensive to perform mechanical work with an electric motor than an ICE. Ever consider why electric motors are used to run machinery in a factory and not ICEs?
idontcare80 2 years ago
Correction an ICE is only about 25% efficient, not 35%.
idontcare80 2 years ago
Another correction: petro fuels have around 10x the energy density of batteries, and around 4X that of H2 fuel cells. Considering the amount of work you want the EV to take on, your battery calculations don't make it.
Real-life work cycles of your aforementioned industrial EVs (narrow aisle forklifts being the best example) show that the per-hour cost to run them and repair them is around 5-11% MORE than an equivalent NG-powered forklift.
Those are just the facts from real life.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
What does energy density have to do with cost? EVs use less energy than ICE vehicles and they use energy that costs less, it's as simple as that. Over the lifetime of an EV the operating cost might be more because of the cost of replacing the battery, but it's well worth it. The reduced maintenance alone makes EVs attractive to me.
With an EV and a well designed solar energy system your home and vehicle could be completely independent of big oil and any kind of energy utility company.
idontcare80 2 years ago
To do the same amount of work, they BOTH use the same amount of energy. Your argument is flawed in that you're merely assuming that the only cost would be charging. That's not the way it works at all.
With batteries, there is a 'stepping' that the controller uses to maintain a constant current to the load (in this case, a motor). Since the battery will never reach full charge, and older batteries leak charge, you're not anywhere near as efficient as you think.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
As you can see, the efficiency number you spouted has nothing to do with real-world physics, where an electrical system is no more of a closed loop than a petro-based one. The difference? There's a set of standards and infrastructure for ICE vehicles. There's nothing even close to that for EVs.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Who said anything about a closed loop?
All in all, with losses associated with power generation, distribution, vehicle charging, inverter efficiency and motor efficiency, an electric car is about 28% efficient.
An ICE vehicle, after losses from fuel refining, transporting, and the overall vehicle efficiency is about 14% efficient.
So an EV is about twice as efficient as an ICE vehicle.
There is a massive infrastructure for EVs, everyone in the US has an outlet in their home!
idontcare80 2 years ago
To do the same amount of work both use the same amount of energy? Are you retarded? Do you not understand 95% efficiency compared to 25% efficiency? Most of the energy put into an ICE leaves the engine as waste heat through the exhaust and radiator! There's no "stepping" controller but there is an inverter used in EVs and it too has an efficiency of about 95%.
I think you need to look up what efficiency means because you have no idea what you're saying here.
idontcare80 2 years ago
Do you understand the difference between testing efficiency in the vacuum of a lab and real world use? Apparently not. Also, the electric motor creates heat and fails if not cooled properly or governed.
And EVERY commercial electric vehicle has a STEPPING CONTROLLER to maintain a certain voltage to the motor throughout the discharge cycle of the battery pack. When you get out of the world of spit and bailing wire, and into the world of serious EVs, you might have more to spout about.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Sorry buddy, but people actually use EVs in the real world and they live up to their claims. Anyway, the fact that you don't understand that nearly all of these things can be worked well before anything has been produced is hilarious. Engineers don't spend years in school for nothing!
idontcare80 2 years ago
nerd fight! sweet.
timpedersen 2 years ago 8
I think it's more like 50-70% more compared to LPG and NG fklifts. At least these are the stats for the biggest home improvement retailer in the world that I worked for.
J0Boa 2 years ago
I could only go off the info averaged between three different companies I used to work for. I wouldn't doubt your numbers, though. Electrics in the real world don't have a great reliability or durability record compared with ICE equipment.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Impractical when you load 1 ton of goods onto it. Would only last an hour and then an 8 hour recharge. It needs to last 8 times as long.
falchard 2 years ago
battery powered delivery trucks were in use in Germany in the early 1950. My employer, had a fleet of them and they ran all day on one charge
chloe7829 2 years ago
i wish the federal government forced companies to use electric trucks.gas trucks make too much noise and pollution
Keepskatin 2 years ago
I can see it now. A dispatcher using this as an exuse. SORRY sir, My driver ran out of electricity and needs a power up. Your direct service package will be delayed.
fdjcengine2 2 years ago
OLD BRO AND THE ANCESTORS says how much money ALSO try helium cambers to lighten weight
oldbroancestor 2 years ago
try electric panels on the roof of trucks to help keep the batteries powered longer.
Keepskatin 2 years ago
Not very practical.
Needs more range and a shorter recharge time before it'll be worth the money.
Threetails 2 years ago
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SpiritsoftheWolf 2 years ago
They use Lithium Ironphospate batteries. There is no battery Acid Involved.
Hector49er 2 years ago
@Hector49er, probably cost arm and legs for a new set of batteries.... i'll pass
SpiritsoftheWolf 2 years ago
Lol, like wrecking a normal car won't cost an arm and a leg. It's a cool idea, just needs a little work.
Hector49er 2 years ago
It's a conspiracy. The oil companies paid them to make it super ugly.
briansmobile1 2 years ago 2
fuel economics aside, it certainly is ugly. Doesn't look like it'd protect you much in a crash, either.
ronthecyborg 2 years ago 3
Them some ugly ass trucks son
biggestMetallicAfan 2 years ago 3
dat liddle truck didnt even go with the monkey slang in the trailer park doun in da crop sirkle.
poonjab94 2 years ago
dealga forgot to take his antipsychotic medication today.
FelchBelcher 2 years ago 2
The Kenworth T 270 is not a combination vehicle (an 18 wheeler), it's a six wheel, straight body delivery van. It's rated as medium duty w/ 26K lbs gross weight and it would take THREE of them to replace one 18 wheeler's payload capacity.
FelchBelcher 2 years ago 2
"no pollution no problem"
Hmm, What happens at the mines where the (either) lead or nickle are dug from the earth to make the batteries? What we REALLY need is a vehicle that runs on organic fairy farts.
FelchBelcher 2 years ago
Point Felch. But, ever hear of Lithium Ion? Do your homework.
1uhrich4 2 years ago
FROM WHENCE DO YOU THINK LITHIUM COMES?!?
OH- my bad, it DOES come from organic fairy farts.
DrMotorDude 2 years ago
It looks like it's from the future.
MadOrth 2 years ago
8 hours charge time for 120 miles? Thats terrible
railmogul2 2 years ago 3
think of all the TRILLIONS of Dollars WASTED in the development of the Internal combustion engine and STILL at best 20% efficient in transduction of chemical energy to mechanical energy and the other 80% as WASTED HEAT.... whereas the electric motor is 90% efficient in transduction of electrical energy to mechanical energy...
Oh BTW the Lithium battery is being produced a relative LOW COST and the SUPER CAPACITOR is on the horizon
terry1919 2 years ago
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brandondallas 2 years ago
whatever floats your boat....
terry1919 2 years ago
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390MUDDIN 2 years ago
Railmogul, are you kidding? How far does a delivery truck go everyday doing its rounds? 60 miles? 80? How long does a delivery truck sit overnight waiting for its shift to start? 12 hours? Maybe 16 hours if the boss is not abusive. What more do you want?
Fairy-farts...very good!
davidorlich 2 years ago
David, 60-80 miles is actually a very SHORT delivery route. If you ever find a UPS driver who will tell you (they're mum on company details) it's more. The time I drove a local only truck, I did 120-130 a day inside a big city and never on an interstate.
DrMotorDude 2 years ago
Taxes are essential? I don't know about your household but my family would be able to afford more if there was less taxes. Less wasteful Gov't spending! If you want to drive a smart car go ahead, not me....I'm talking about the trucking industry & you respond with some Supercar, stay with the debate! One day we will all stand in front of our maker and give an account. of course God wants us to be good stewards of our natural resources but that doesn't mean we put "mother nature" ahead of God....
aaaaa0000000000 2 years ago
Counterproductive is making unrealistic engine emmision standards so you can't get power out of them. Forcing operators to use even more fuel.Sure doesn't look like you can haul too much in this electric truck! Counterproductive is cap & trade (TAX) what a joke ! I guess the only good polution is the polution that is taxed. No matter how much you ECO-freaks try and save yourself ,one day we will all find out who is really in charge and will answer to him..
aaaaa0000000000 2 years ago
Best Wishes for success with this vehicle.
UTubeGlennAR 2 years ago
Screw "Green" ! Diesel burn it if you got !
From a proud overweight, meat eating, angry American clinging to his religion and his guns.
aaaaa0000000000 2 years ago 2
amen brother! you tell them like it is.
xvirus2501 2 years ago 2
Fuck off you retarded piece of human excrement
bellaggio1770 2 years ago
where does the electricity come form? oh yea more fossil fuels
dumapies 2 years ago
Fucking retard you too, not all electricity comes from fossil fuel you amateur, a lot of areas have hydroelectric or nuclear power plants. And besides, eve fossil fuel fired powerplants are nearly 95% efficient (vs. 40% for an internal combustion engine).
So get the science before posting crap all right?
bellaggio1770 2 years ago
Good for use in loading docks, large warehouses and small town local deliveries. It definitely has a niche. Pretty unique looking too.
nephil1977 2 years ago
"At 120 miles it's not practical, except for a small niche market. A truck will easily travel 150-200 miles in a day making deliveries in a large metropolitan area."
Baloney.
I would bet UPS and FEDEX will be the biggest buyers of this truck.
squizzoo 2 years ago 2
UPS, Eaton and the DOE have been developing a Hydrostatic drive that is in use now witha small fleet. Don't forget the USPS.
3089280288 2 years ago
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No wonder so many people are getting cancer, all this electricity powered stuff is causing it.
TheNoisePolluter 2 years ago
Yeah, it probably has nothing to do with all of the millions of vehicles on the road that constantly pump huge amounts of carcinogens into the atmosphere.
idontcare80 2 years ago 3
Nonsense. This urban myth of electromagnetic fields causing cancer was started by an unethical researcher, Robert P. Liburdy, formerly of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. When no one else could replicate his "results", the hoax was exposed and he was fired. Nonetheless, the lie lives on.
upajos 2 years ago 3
What about people that live next to power lines, people are more prone to get cancer, because the electricity is in the air, and just think, all these electronics could trigger something.
TheNoisePolluter 2 years ago
no its true the elecrtic train operators in russia retire at like 40 or something like that because of all the magnetic waves
supagog 2 years ago
Check your facts. The ones that retire at "40 or something like that" do so because they're chain-smokers and/or alcoholics, and get lung cancer and cirrhosis of the liver, not because of electric fields.
upajos 2 years ago
hahaha! wtf was he smokin?
RidingSausage 2 years ago
wtf?
VideoGamePlayer12 2 years ago
interior veiw looks like a driving simulator. nice
JuicedJetta 2 years ago 2
Kind of retro looking, I like it
jdgator95 2 years ago
At 120 miles it's not practical, except for a small niche market. A truck will easily travel 150-200 miles in a day making deliveries in a large metropolitan area. Let's talk again when the range is boosted to 250+miles on a fresh set of batteries and recharge times fall below 4 hours.
upajos 2 years ago
The largest delivery fleets have their routes divided by range and this would cover about 75% of the routes. This could also be quick charged on a driver's lunch hour, likewise if range is really THE hindrance to use then an Onan Biodiesel generator could be added as a plug and play option. Additionally the payback at present day fuel prices is 2-4 years.
BEVA0709 2 years ago
The answer is in quick change battery packs and not in sitting for hours on end, unless at the end of the day, so that way time isn't wasted. Once you standardize on a particular pack or number of packs per the vehicle type then you can quit worrying about charge times.
bitburgborn 2 years ago 2
How many blindspots does that driver have? Jeesh.
studpuppy69 2 years ago
Not really practicle untill they are cheaper, (i thought i heard some law that every 10 years, the technology doubles and the cost cuts in half, meaning cars that go twice as far as today will be around the same price but will be more worth it....but progression is slow when nobody has spare millions anymore)
paintballgundown8 2 years ago
why every car that's electric have to be ugly as shit
except for some
Sk8rFoRLiFe159 2 years ago
exactly wut i was thinking!!!
dubsidedude2010 2 years ago
i agree if im gonna drive one of these pieces of shit i want it to look like a pete-car or w-900 lol
jessew513 2 years ago
Only in Boulder would someone want to drive an electric truck. One of the reasons I modified my Corvette to tow a boat trailer was because I didn't want to get a slow SUV. Plus I get 25-26 miles per gallon pulling a trailer. There are just too many annoying tree huggers in boulder, and unfortunately broomfield gets the overflow nuts.
travelbytommy 2 years ago
People are interested in these kinds of vehicles EVERYWHERE. The design of EVs and hybrids are becoming more refined and more practical. Check out the Ebus.
We all better become "tree huggers" pretty damn soon. We are literally running out of room too grow food VERY rapidly and the hotter it gets the less land will be arable.
idontcare80 2 years ago
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bitburgborn 2 years ago
While a solar panel could provide a little benefit, it would not be able to generate enough power to really do anything. RVs have solar panels to keep their batteries charged, but the shear amount of power required to propel a vehicle would be no match for a solar panel. You could possibly use a solar panel to run the air conditioning or something, but that is about it unless you had a truck the size of a 747 and the mass of a golf cart.
travelbytommy 2 years ago
You must be a redneck who still drives his tractor to work. The first World Solar Challenge was in 1987. First solar car was built by Cobb in 1955.
xLightFilmsx 2 years ago
And have you seen a solar car? It is like a billboard turned flat with wheels so that it can get enough surface area to provide power. Plus they are made out of light materials like carbon fiber....a far cry from something the size of a delivery truck. There is no way solar cells could provide enough power to propel a large delivery truck.
Is the World Solar Challenge the race that crosses Australia?
travelbytommy 2 years ago
It's stupid to think this truck could be charged by a solar collector that was mounted on it. An array installed on the building where this truck would charge could easily offset the power requirement for this vehicle.
idontcare80 2 years ago
what is that 0 to 60 in 2.8 years
EDog1o1 2 years ago
According to their website, the Chevy Volt can only go 40 miles on electricity alone. Somehow I've got a feeling that this truck's 120 mile range means that it has absolutely nothing in it and is going downhill.
TerranRepublic 2 years ago
120 mile range means stop and go around town OR at 50-65 mph on the highway tested with 60% loading up and down the hills of the front range of Colorado. The Chevy Volt has a much smaller battery pack. Our team absolutly despises vaporware and false claims. Any party who is seriously interested can fly in and drive this one.
BEVA0709 2 years ago
Sorry i loves are curret Diesels tucks mach batters!!!!!
henrythebusguy 2 years ago
makes no difference...we could go green completely and it would have no effect...china and indonesia build 25 coal burning plants per day...plus electricitys backup is coal
wilhelm1974 2 years ago
I agree with you but 25 plants per day isn't it a lot?
pasham123 2 years ago
1 coal burning plant produces 600 million tons of waste per year...now multply that by every week and you have 9100 billion tons of waste and pollution into the air
wilhelm1974 2 years ago
I love electric drive technology. We need more of these in urban areas. Ever sit behind an idling diesel delivery truck in stop and go traffic?... yuck. I have to say, though. Those are the tiniest wheels I've ever seen on a truck.
nephil1977 2 years ago
A new collar color of mankind. Now we have Green collar workers. Note that we are still collar bound a.k.a chained.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago