There's a youtubed cameraplanet video that shows these same two firemen dressed in the same gear, but it's taken after sunset. There's a lot of dust and papers still covering the ground and the wind picks it up easily. Everyone going in is wearing a mask and it looks like soldiers with backpacks rush past a lot of people.
It's titled: "wtc night, debris, military, police, firemen, dust" and the ID is
Lol, good point alfimon...accusations of grandoise proportians don't make them real. Thats what i've been saying. I"m not a chemist so i won't debate about whether this chemistry is correct, but no one has given me proof of a govt. "conspiracy" even though all i've heard is that the gov's done it.
U got goo dpoints alfimon, and u got good points vengence/z1zaz.
Now all we need is wolverine's slander/libel and his lack of a cunning wit...and this could be a fun debate;p
Is this another video where twoofers get together and rewrite the laws of physics? Maybe look for good, juicy, incriminating comments you can take out of context to fit your lies?
What I do see are people using physics to explain something in a retarded way.
Galileo came to a conclusion using facts and evidence..
What you fruitcakes are doing is coming to a conclusion and then misusing facts and evidence to support it. You have put the horse before the cart in a manner of speaking.
you remember your school lessons about galileo dont ya alfimon? ya know, the guy the pope locked up because he dared say the earth went around the sun?
Ok, can't see the doc, can u give me the website it's on?
Second...bird flu...lol. WE need China. IF something happened to China we'd be screwed because China is a major exporter for us. Also, Mexico isn't an enemy...
hell...i'm going to ask you the same question.
What makes you think that the pig flu and bird flu were created to make China/mexico succumb to our will...what led you to beleive that?
Also, u do realize they are just the regular flu, but weaker and during warmer temps.
Kelric, never forget that PUBLISHED information, as with that French video, leaves the publisher at risk of lawsuit if they can be proved wrong >
So ask YOUR Government why they are not doing anything about it ?????
I am not responsible for your or anyone else's understanding. Maybe you should study a little more Physics.
And isn't this lack of understanding exactly what all OUR Governments are relying upon - why they *REFUSE* TO TEACH THIS KIND OF PHYSICS AT SCHOOL AND UNIVERSITIES !
Seeing as it's a terrorist attack and the chances of getting"proof" for either side is unlickely unless the terrorists admit they did it...wait...didn't they? EIther way, you are still avoiding giving me proof for the conspiracy. I'll even say it's not even 1% likely terrorists did it...so tell me...why the govt.?
Also, school programs revolve around the regents or SAT's...so the govt has no actual say in things, except funding;p
Lol, what are you talking about. You know what terrorists have? They somehow had advanced weaponry to fight us...why couldn't they get common materials like sulfer, etc and stick it on a plane. Hell, some sticks of dynamite in a certain position may of been able to accomplish something similar(though truthfully, dynamite is unlikely, just using dynamite as an example)
Again, the govt doesn't control education, the states and school board do...lol!
There is more evidence for conspiracy than there is for a 'terrorist's' attack.
Have you studied videos from other countries, such as this French one -
watch?v=D3kBn1usddI&feature=channel_page
If a US majority say 'irrelevent' and 'doesn't matter' whilst knowing what actually happened, then they are actively maintaining a situation whereby this kind of event could happen again,
and again,
and ....
They would then find their country ending up being isolated by others in our World !
Lol, so u want me to look at one french vid probably from some radical news station...? But thats not proof saying the U.S did it. Even if u proved it wasn't terrorists, you don't have proof saying anyone else did it. You are avoiding telling me the proof you seem to have blaming the gov fr this...
metal fatigue? nope! notice the slag. notice that the column is in a field of debris still smoldering. you think any one would venture into a smoldering field of debris with an acetylene torch to cut a column?
It is funny to listen to 911 idiots. Really, it takes no skill to make up a stupid theory with no facts or evidance and prouncr around preaxhing it as if they actually believed that stuff.
Most of what they say is explained in physics and chem, other stuff is something no one has an anwser for, so since there is no anwser, they twist something and take a small motive and pretend that the US govt did it for that small motive, even though they have nothing to support them...
the tell tale sign for conspiracy is wtc 7. if you believe that it fell because of fire there is not much to more to debate. for others it appears to have gone into freefall. all four sides went straight down, not inwards or out wards, but straight down and at the same time and in freefall. for someone who is even remotely interested in physics this is impossible.
If ur interested in physics you know all about illusion and the eye's faults in observations;p
Plus, it;s irrelevant. Since when did we make up conspiracies with no evidance to support them because we didn't have an anwser?
Do u have any proof suggesting what you say. Even if u proved to me 911 wasn't by terrorists...where do u get the govt or someone else...your just assuming it's them.
(By the way, i have been swayed bfore, so debating is worthwhile with me;p)
I'm confused is this vid saying America bombed the Trade Centers? An it looks more like that was cut in order to reach any survivors, people who think America planned 9/11 deny facts it's quite funny to listen to their crap in my opnion.
To me nothing you write about planes, explosions, what was in the buildings, etc. is relevent.
Did planes hit the buildings ?
The ONLY way that WTC building construction steel could be molecularly disocciated at atomic level, ie. turned into blobs of iron and free carbon gas etc. - within a few seconds and in free space - is via extremely powerful directed electromagnetic wave resonance.
Look at explosive demolitions - there are always imaged shockwaves; but not at WTC !
For all we know, terrorists could have placed sulfer in the office buildings and waited for the plane to crash. You don't know, all that govt behind 911 is just a wild theory with no proof supporting it. It's like me saying Hitler was gay.
I have no evidance, just a wild idea, because it could possiblt fit.
Oh, and thought i trust in our reporters able to sneak top secret govt info out into the open with their laptops...i'm sure we haven't gotten full facts about it for national security.
What planes ? Did the damage on any building match the outlines of modern airliners ?
Beware what they *intended* you see/ hear !
But see how little debris there was from WTC7 too. Yet it was not hit by anything. Watch the videos; the upper floors fell into floor 18 and disappeared !
No explosions - no shockwaves through the dust -
What happenned to the investigation into Black Ops funding in Bldg7 ?
Financial collapse plus maximum awe turns everyone into sheep.
Though i trust crummy video camera's 10 miles away...it's like asking why when you throw a grenade and it makes a hole...where the earth goes, or whether the grenade is a conspiracy and that it really didn't make the hole. Is it possible the floors fell soo fast you couldn't tell, especially since it was like a domino effect...
Airplane crashes don't make shockwaves and there were explosions...
Also, do u really think the govt just gives classified info away on black ops operations?
Lol...you kidding me. Unless you knew exactly what was on that plane, unless you had some hightech video that could see exactly what happened and not the crummy videos people took 10 miles away you can't tell.
Also, if the heat was intense enough it could actually of turned some of the debris into another form or another compound.
u know hitler got his brown shirts to burn down the reichstadt and he blamed communists, just like america blames the muslim to justify war and control through fear.
Comepletely different i think, i also don't recall that event though. Also, the US doesn't control anything by fear, at least not anymroe...u thinking of cold war?
Blame someone else...well...if they are to blame...why not?
Nuclear war threat ended in cold war by the way..., control through fear is a tactic used by terrorsits, though civalized nations ended that tactic also during the cold war. Communism threat ended in cold war, and they were all real threats...oh. THe reichstag thing...again...no one knows who really did though they cought a commy and convicted him, so unless you got some inside info...don't say stuff like that...
The reichstadt is a well known fact like the romans cricifying christ.
Cominusm threat ended yes, they must invent new threat regularly, this way people r to busy watching the threat rather than the government, who make new laws for security that only ruin our freedom, like big brother, the more threat, the more control governments inevitably get of our freedom.
In vietnam military transport was used to ship heroin to USA, same thing happens now in afganistan; 500% increase in production since invasion/ since security was established supposedly!
Who is the enemy is the real question and why?
To depopulate the earth so that enough fod can be produced to feed future generations?
we need to cut populous by over 1/3rd supposedly!
Congrats, u just proved the govt's really the mafia...
Cmon, i'm sure all of it is legal and for a reason. Obama's willing to spend money to help people in africa murder babies, and he;s using our tax money for it. I'd rather supply everyone with drugs than let Obama use my money to commit murder...
It does piss me off when we give money away and we aint got it ourselves, the more we feed africa, the more they survive and breed, the more we have to feed them and so on until we all starve, like feeding rats.
In Africa, that abortion crap stuff, he's using our tax money(though i'm a minor, so urs really, but soon mine;p) to actually encourage africans to do abortians rather than let the child live in povert.
I would rather go to jail than commit murder under g-d's eyes. I love America, but if i must do that i will leave to anywhere else...
I don't mind giving money to help them, but encouraging abortians with our help...how did congress let this go...did it go to congress?
wtc 7 in freefall and 'operation northwoods' is enough for me. what silverstein said about 'pull it' only adds to it. what rumsfeld said in his speech on 9-10-2001 should scare every american.
"Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself."
better abortion than a child concieved through rape or into a life of slow death, its easy to preach when u have no idea what life is like for some, a child is better aborted than killed after birth, it suffers less.
Ok, rapes like waht, .1%? Plus, why should the child be responsible for the fathers crimes? IT's still a baby. No matter who gave birth to it.
Complications that are known of ahead of time, not very common...and unless it's going to kill you, don't abort. AS fr mercy killing, unless the child was going to live a life where he's got no limbs, dumb and going to live in a hospital...thats the only exception. A kid having a small disease..it's not your choice to let them live or die.
I don't know where u got ur sources. All that is known about the reichstag burning down is that it burnt down and they founded a communists at the scene. Everything else is wild speculation.
ALso, if the threats are real...which they are...wouldn't u want to know about them. Really, the govt would rather not tell us anything and make everything seem like a utopia...so ur either for more govt control and no threats, or les govt control and more threats...ur pick...
"we had to destroy the village in order to save it." vietnam vet circa 1968
"Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself."
speech given by rumsfeld on 9-10-2001 in re missing 2.3 trillion dollars
i probably should have said i dont recall all of the details at the moment. but then pretending to be something else while destroying property is as old as boston tea parties, and probably a lot older.
These columns were cut /after/ the collapse. There's plenty of photos available on the web of crews cutting columns if you search.
DealerOffThings 2 years ago
There's a youtubed cameraplanet video that shows these same two firemen dressed in the same gear, but it's taken after sunset. There's a lot of dust and papers still covering the ground and the wind picks it up easily. Everyone going in is wearing a mask and it looks like soldiers with backpacks rush past a lot of people.
It's titled: "wtc night, debris, military, police, firemen, dust" and the ID is
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CACBCCCU 2 years ago
Lol, good point alfimon...accusations of grandoise proportians don't make them real. Thats what i've been saying. I"m not a chemist so i won't debate about whether this chemistry is correct, but no one has given me proof of a govt. "conspiracy" even though all i've heard is that the gov's done it.
U got goo dpoints alfimon, and u got good points vengence/z1zaz.
Now all we need is wolverine's slander/libel and his lack of a cunning wit...and this could be a fun debate;p
kelric6 2 years ago
Is this another video where twoofers get together and rewrite the laws of physics? Maybe look for good, juicy, incriminating comments you can take out of context to fit your lies?
alfimon 2 years ago
no, its another vid where twoofers get together and EXPLAIN physics, much like galileo did.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
venge I don't see anyone explaining phsycis
What I do see are people using physics to explain something in a retarded way.
Galileo came to a conclusion using facts and evidence..
What you fruitcakes are doing is coming to a conclusion and then misusing facts and evidence to support it. You have put the horse before the cart in a manner of speaking.
alfimon 2 years ago
you remember your school lessons about galileo dont ya alfimon? ya know, the guy the pope locked up because he dared say the earth went around the sun?
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
IT was excommunicated, not locked up.
HaywireEagle 2 years ago
Kelric you wrote -
You are still avoiding giving me proof for the conspiracy. I'll even say it's not even 1% likely terrorists did it...so tell me...why the govt.?
Find the document I list below. It was the result of a Chief of Staff USAF directive.
Check out fig 5.2
NO ONE can predict the future, so this was more than a study.
Remember Bird Flu, China did not succumb, so now a Lab generated Pig Flu appears in Mexico.
The HERF event was moved forwards.
= High Energy Radio Field.
z1zaz 2 years ago
The HAARP can play many tunes !
z1zaz 2 years ago
Ok, can't see the doc, can u give me the website it's on?
Second...bird flu...lol. WE need China. IF something happened to China we'd be screwed because China is a major exporter for us. Also, Mexico isn't an enemy...
hell...i'm going to ask you the same question.
What makes you think that the pig flu and bird flu were created to make China/mexico succumb to our will...what led you to beleive that?
Also, u do realize they are just the regular flu, but weaker and during warmer temps.
kelric6 2 years ago
Kelric, never forget that PUBLISHED information, as with that French video, leaves the publisher at risk of lawsuit if they can be proved wrong >
So ask YOUR Government why they are not doing anything about it ?????
I am not responsible for your or anyone else's understanding. Maybe you should study a little more Physics.
And isn't this lack of understanding exactly what all OUR Governments are relying upon - why they *REFUSE* TO TEACH THIS KIND OF PHYSICS AT SCHOOL AND UNIVERSITIES !
z1zaz 2 years ago
Seeing as it's a terrorist attack and the chances of getting"proof" for either side is unlickely unless the terrorists admit they did it...wait...didn't they? EIther way, you are still avoiding giving me proof for the conspiracy. I'll even say it's not even 1% likely terrorists did it...so tell me...why the govt.?
Also, school programs revolve around the regents or SAT's...so the govt has no actual say in things, except funding;p
kelric6 2 years ago
If you understood the Physics involved you would know what caused these buildings to come down.
'Terrorists' simply do NOT have the equipment necessary to do this !!!!!
Until you learn about scalar/ electromagnetic Physics you cannot understand what has happened,
but the educational arms of our Governments refuse to teach these aspects, and, happily leave you seeking proof that is totally irrelevant.
Find 1996 pdf;-
Alternate Futures for 2025: Security Planning to Avoid Surprise.
z1zaz 2 years ago
Lol, what are you talking about. You know what terrorists have? They somehow had advanced weaponry to fight us...why couldn't they get common materials like sulfer, etc and stick it on a plane. Hell, some sticks of dynamite in a certain position may of been able to accomplish something similar(though truthfully, dynamite is unlikely, just using dynamite as an example)
Again, the govt doesn't control education, the states and school board do...lol!
kelric6 2 years ago
go to
worldwideweb newsvine com
see
Pilot who flew 2 planes used on 9/11 doesn't believe official story
z1zaz 2 years ago
good for him...his opinion really doesn't matter...
kelric6 2 years ago
There is more evidence for conspiracy than there is for a 'terrorist's' attack.
Have you studied videos from other countries, such as this French one -
watch?v=D3kBn1usddI&feature=channel_page
If a US majority say 'irrelevent' and 'doesn't matter' whilst knowing what actually happened, then they are actively maintaining a situation whereby this kind of event could happen again,
and again,
and ....
They would then find their country ending up being isolated by others in our World !
z1zaz 2 years ago
Lol, so u want me to look at one french vid probably from some radical news station...? But thats not proof saying the U.S did it. Even if u proved it wasn't terrorists, you don't have proof saying anyone else did it. You are avoiding telling me the proof you seem to have blaming the gov fr this...
kelric6 2 years ago
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z1zaz 2 years ago
considering the unimaginable amount of weight on it, it could be a stress fracture.
boonie1994 2 years ago
metal fatigue? nope! notice the slag. notice that the column is in a field of debris still smoldering. you think any one would venture into a smoldering field of debris with an acetylene torch to cut a column?
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
good point, lol;p
kelric6 2 years ago
It is funny to listen to 911 idiots. Really, it takes no skill to make up a stupid theory with no facts or evidance and prouncr around preaxhing it as if they actually believed that stuff.
Most of what they say is explained in physics and chem, other stuff is something no one has an anwser for, so since there is no anwser, they twist something and take a small motive and pretend that the US govt did it for that small motive, even though they have nothing to support them...
kelric6 2 years ago
the tell tale sign for conspiracy is wtc 7. if you believe that it fell because of fire there is not much to more to debate. for others it appears to have gone into freefall. all four sides went straight down, not inwards or out wards, but straight down and at the same time and in freefall. for someone who is even remotely interested in physics this is impossible.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
If ur interested in physics you know all about illusion and the eye's faults in observations;p
Plus, it;s irrelevant. Since when did we make up conspiracies with no evidance to support them because we didn't have an anwser?
Do u have any proof suggesting what you say. Even if u proved to me 911 wasn't by terrorists...where do u get the govt or someone else...your just assuming it's them.
(By the way, i have been swayed bfore, so debating is worthwhile with me;p)
kelric6 2 years ago
I'm confused is this vid saying America bombed the Trade Centers? An it looks more like that was cut in order to reach any survivors, people who think America planned 9/11 deny facts it's quite funny to listen to their crap in my opnion.
segmentum 2 years ago
Hi Kelrick,
To me nothing you write about planes, explosions, what was in the buildings, etc. is relevent.
Did planes hit the buildings ?
The ONLY way that WTC building construction steel could be molecularly disocciated at atomic level, ie. turned into blobs of iron and free carbon gas etc. - within a few seconds and in free space - is via extremely powerful directed electromagnetic wave resonance.
Look at explosive demolitions - there are always imaged shockwaves; but not at WTC !
z1zaz 2 years ago
For all we know, terrorists could have placed sulfer in the office buildings and waited for the plane to crash. You don't know, all that govt behind 911 is just a wild theory with no proof supporting it. It's like me saying Hitler was gay.
I have no evidance, just a wild idea, because it could possiblt fit.
Oh, and thought i trust in our reporters able to sneak top secret govt info out into the open with their laptops...i'm sure we haven't gotten full facts about it for national security.
kelric6 2 years ago
that would be the same people in the same government that came up with 'operation northwoods'?
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
Hi Kelrick,
What planes ? Did the damage on any building match the outlines of modern airliners ?
Beware what they *intended* you see/ hear !
But see how little debris there was from WTC7 too. Yet it was not hit by anything. Watch the videos; the upper floors fell into floor 18 and disappeared !
No explosions - no shockwaves through the dust -
What happenned to the investigation into Black Ops funding in Bldg7 ?
Financial collapse plus maximum awe turns everyone into sheep.
z1zaz 2 years ago
Though i trust crummy video camera's 10 miles away...it's like asking why when you throw a grenade and it makes a hole...where the earth goes, or whether the grenade is a conspiracy and that it really didn't make the hole. Is it possible the floors fell soo fast you couldn't tell, especially since it was like a domino effect...
Airplane crashes don't make shockwaves and there were explosions...
Also, do u really think the govt just gives classified info away on black ops operations?
kelric6 2 years ago
! So What ! ?
Beware what they intended you see/ hear !
This is not what made all of the towers disocciate/disappear starting about 30 floors from the top of each.
One 1/4 mile high tower almost completely disappeared.
Where did it go ? Why no debris for that tower in photos taken on 9-11.
See -
worldwideweb drjudywood com
z1zaz 2 years ago
Lol...you kidding me. Unless you knew exactly what was on that plane, unless you had some hightech video that could see exactly what happened and not the crummy videos people took 10 miles away you can't tell.
Also, if the heat was intense enough it could actually of turned some of the debris into another form or another compound.
kelric6 2 years ago
the high amount of smoke indicates that the fire was smoldering. ergo, low temperature.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
this is certainly something for the next year physics lab to take up.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
u know hitler got his brown shirts to burn down the reichstadt and he blamed communists, just like america blames the muslim to justify war and control through fear.
tpvalley 2 years ago
i dont recall it at the moment.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
Comepletely different i think, i also don't recall that event though. Also, the US doesn't control anything by fear, at least not anymroe...u thinking of cold war?
kelric6 2 years ago
Its isnt, destroy something, blame someone else to justify a war or whatever.
Control through fear - terrorism threat, nuclear war threat, comunism threat etc these fake threats allow control, eg the patriot act.
tpvalley 2 years ago
Blame someone else...well...if they are to blame...why not?
Nuclear war threat ended in cold war by the way..., control through fear is a tactic used by terrorsits, though civalized nations ended that tactic also during the cold war. Communism threat ended in cold war, and they were all real threats...oh. THe reichstag thing...again...no one knows who really did though they cought a commy and convicted him, so unless you got some inside info...don't say stuff like that...
kelric6 2 years ago
The reichstadt is a well known fact like the romans cricifying christ.
Cominusm threat ended yes, they must invent new threat regularly, this way people r to busy watching the threat rather than the government, who make new laws for security that only ruin our freedom, like big brother, the more threat, the more control governments inevitably get of our freedom.
See my point?
tpvalley 2 years ago
that is exactly what 'they' always do, create a state of believing in the outside enemy. operation northwoods is a prime example.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
What is "operation northwoods."?
In vietnam military transport was used to ship heroin to USA, same thing happens now in afganistan; 500% increase in production since invasion/ since security was established supposedly!
Who is the enemy is the real question and why?
To depopulate the earth so that enough fod can be produced to feed future generations?
we need to cut populous by over 1/3rd supposedly!
tpvalley 2 years ago
I'm sorry, what?
First, heroin use except fr medical is illegal, second, the middle east makes a lot of drugs, etc and it's a major produce so that could be why too...
THe enemy...thats easy...
Depopulate the earth...what?
kelric6 2 years ago
heroin was illegal during vietnam aswell, the army was used to ship heroin.
fort knox actually has more than $1billion worth of morphine and heroin stored for emergencies, where do u think it all comes from?
Why do u think so much floods the country. why havent they sprayed poppy crops with poppy specific spray? it does exist.
tpvalley 2 years ago
Congrats, u just proved the govt's really the mafia...
Cmon, i'm sure all of it is legal and for a reason. Obama's willing to spend money to help people in africa murder babies, and he;s using our tax money for it. I'd rather supply everyone with drugs than let Obama use my money to commit murder...
kelric6 2 years ago
Who is obama helping that kill babies?!
It does piss me off when we give money away and we aint got it ourselves, the more we feed africa, the more they survive and breed, the more we have to feed them and so on until we all starve, like feeding rats.
tpvalley 2 years ago
In Africa, that abortion crap stuff, he's using our tax money(though i'm a minor, so urs really, but soon mine;p) to actually encourage africans to do abortians rather than let the child live in povert.
I would rather go to jail than commit murder under g-d's eyes. I love America, but if i must do that i will leave to anywhere else...
I don't mind giving money to help them, but encouraging abortians with our help...how did congress let this go...did it go to congress?
kelric6 2 years ago
wtc 7 in freefall and 'operation northwoods' is enough for me. what silverstein said about 'pull it' only adds to it. what rumsfeld said in his speech on 9-10-2001 should scare every american.
"Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself."
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
better abortion than a child concieved through rape or into a life of slow death, its easy to preach when u have no idea what life is like for some, a child is better aborted than killed after birth, it suffers less.
tpvalley 2 years ago
Ok, rapes like waht, .1%? Plus, why should the child be responsible for the fathers crimes? IT's still a baby. No matter who gave birth to it.
Complications that are known of ahead of time, not very common...and unless it's going to kill you, don't abort. AS fr mercy killing, unless the child was going to live a life where he's got no limbs, dumb and going to live in a hospital...thats the only exception. A kid having a small disease..it's not your choice to let them live or die.
kelric6 2 years ago
I don't know where u got ur sources. All that is known about the reichstag burning down is that it burnt down and they founded a communists at the scene. Everything else is wild speculation.
ALso, if the threats are real...which they are...wouldn't u want to know about them. Really, the govt would rather not tell us anything and make everything seem like a utopia...so ur either for more govt control and no threats, or les govt control and more threats...ur pick...
kelric6 2 years ago
"we had to destroy the village in order to save it." vietnam vet circa 1968
"Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself."
speech given by rumsfeld on 9-10-2001 in re missing 2.3 trillion dollars
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
i probably should have said i dont recall all of the details at the moment. but then pretending to be something else while destroying property is as old as boston tea parties, and probably a lot older.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
Obviously Thermite explosion marks
MarshallJukov 2 years ago