This demonic scum was a unfair, mean, hypocrite of the first order. Nasty son of a bitch had alot of nerve saying these detestable comments about Robert Bork. This scum was drunk when his car went off that bridge killing that woman and then he let her drown. He then ran a hid while he sobbered up and then used his family's influence to get out of it. Their are 2 America's, an America where this embarassment can murder someone and get away with it and everyone else, and lefty's still loved him.
@KidSheIeen Because Mary Jo Kopechne had enough intelligence to avoid right-wing lowlifes. Had that tragic accident not occured, Ted Kennedy would have served eight years as president. July 18, 1969 was the happiest day for right-wingers in America.
@GeorgiaKev "Because Mary Jo Kopechne had enough intelligence....." I'm willing to bet 3 to 1 that you know absolutely nothing about her life but what you are now going to look up on google. And if she hadn'g gotten into the car with a silver spoon drunken womanizer who was also a moron whose father purchased his degree from Yale and knew a few more Republicans she'd be alive today. If she used her intelligence instead of her naivete
@KidSheIeen And I'll bet 10 to 1 that you don't know jack-shit about the Kennedys except that they played a major role in ending segregation in the south, which was more than enough to earn the eternal, bitter hatred of right-wingers. BTW, Ted Kennedy graduated from HARVARD, and not Yale. And finally, Mary Jo Kopechne was was a speechwriter for Sen. Robert Kennedy and had also worked on his presidential campaign the prior year. Don't think she'd have taken those jobs if she wasn't a liberal.
@GeorgiaKev Don't know Jack Shit? How about dad being ambassador to England and a supporter of Adolf Hitler (alot were in the 30's). And that Kennedy money is illegal bootleg money, illegal stock option inside trading money and Hollywood film money (JFK's dad was fucking Gloria Swanson and didn't even come home when his first kid was born because of the poon). One more thing. Mary Jo was a DEAD liberal. And but for Teddy she'd be alive today. Dickdance
.....As for segregation, Sen Everette Dirkson R-Ilinois did more to end it than Jack Kennedy did until Kennedy had the bully pulpit (not that it was bad in that sense) of the POTUS. But it was his brother Robert's impetus as Atty General that pushed JFK in that theater. JFK as a Senator didn't want to touch the issue.
.....And I almost forgot. About Mary Jo, Kennedy did not have a valid driver's licence when interviewed by police the next day. But soon after one was obtained from the dept of motor vehicles. I had forgotten that I'd read that in a book on the crime years ago. So not only did he serve a short suspended sentence for murder, he didn't even get a traffic ticket for his crime. Their is your hero.
@KidSheIeen Sounds like a smart politician to me.....had JFK gotten mixed up in the segregation battles in the Senate in the 1950's it would have weakened him politically. He waited until he got in the White House where he had the power to bring about serious change. "When hunting with one bullet, you wait for a clear shot."
@KidSheIeen Aloof and lazy? You have Reagan mixed up with Kennedy. Reagan worked less than 2 hours/day while president and nearly two of his eight years were spent out at his ranch in California. Kennedy wouldn't be so hated in the south if it wasn't for his role in making civil rights a reality. But hey, whatever floats your boat. We all know you Kennedy-haters can't stomach the fact that the water fountain you drink from may have been used by a black person just moments earlier.
@GeorgiaKev Listen stupid. Kennedy had an injury to his back from the war. He had Graves disease which made him tired and irritable and he was busy fucking girls brought into the back door of the White House. And he was naturally laid back and aloof even as a youth. HIs old man had brother Joe targeted for a political career but it went to Jack as the next oldest when Joe was killed in the war. JFK did not care about civil rights as a Senator and knew he was a long shot for POTUS. Get your....
@KidSheIeen Okay, so now you're going after JFK's health problems? WTF does that have to do with anything that he stood for? We had a total invalid in the White House from 1985 to 1989 who was suffering from Alzheimer's and had his entire staff cover it up. But that's okay.....you go right on hating the Kennedys. As I said from the beginning, I love them most for the enemies they made.
@GeorgiaKev Hey dummy. Are you serious that JFK's heath issues didn't affect his performance? Besides all that I already explained to you that JFK was aloof and laid back. Like in the PONY EATS POTUS event. Oh but Reagan's challenges did, right?? You can't even see how illogical your logical fallacies are. And Reagan didn't have Alzheimers. Because YOU CANNOT COVER THAT UP. You ignorant slut. I don't hate the Kennedys. I hated Ted only. JFK and RFK I'm just realistic about unlike your blind butt
@GeorgiaKev Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimers disease in 2004. I took personal care of my father who was determined to have dementia. Another doctor told me it could be the beginnings of Alzheimers. Do you know anything personally about the two? My dad died this year. He had memory issues and other issues but his character was as strong as ever. And he was as intelligent as ever. We had a total invalid in the White House? Go fuck yourself
@KidSheIeen Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 1993 and he revealed his illness to the public in 1994 (he died in 2004). However, he was clearly in the early stages of Alzheimers throughout his second term and the White House staff covered it up. The only reason I brought up Reagan's health issues is because YOU brought up Kennedy's health issues.
In any case, I'm very sorry to hear about your father. My sympathies are with you and your family.
@GeorgiaKev Reagan left office in Jan 1989. He was a lame duck in office at that time unable to run again. If he was diagnosed in 93 that is 4 years later. Alot can happen in 4 years. My father was diagnosed with beginning stages dementia in 2005 and when he died in April 2011 he was still in a stage of dementia on the way to possible Alzheimers. He was still able to interact socially. His sense of humor was intact. He loved nature the same way as in the past. His opinions were as strong...
....and as impeccable as they always were. But sometimes he got lost driving. And once he was able to name my three sisters and one brother but looked me straight in the eyes and insisted that I was his brother and got angry when I told him that I was his son. That was in Feb 2011. What went on in the White House with Reagan you've done a terrible job of characterizing. And you obviously know nothing about the disease. Thank you for your sympathy. I appreciate it.
@KidSheIeen As you said, many people in the mid-1930's saw Hitler as a strong leader who was rebuilding his country from the inside (how do you think Berlin was awarded the 1936 Olympics?). What does the crap Joe Kennedy did have to do with his son? NOTHING. Yes, Ted Kennedy was initially elected to the Senate due to his name, but he MORE THAN EARNED his right to keep the job for as long as he did. He was one of the hardest-working Senators in U.S. history, and even Repubs agree.
@GeorgiaKev Hardest working? He was a bum. Senator isn't a hard job if you have a safe seat and can never lose an election. He never worked a day in his life.
@KidSheIeen You're totally clueless if you believe one word of what you just said.
Here, take a look at the spontaneous several minute-long standing ovation Kennedy received (from BOTH sides of the aisle) when he returned to the Senate floor after being diagnosed with cancer. You find me ONE other senator over the past 50 years who ever received such an honor from their Senate colleagues (including adversaries).
@GeorgiaKev I've seen it. You're the one living on Mars dipshit. Half of those people were applauding because they secretly (even to themselves) knew he would be finally pushing up daisies soon. I was one of them.
@KidSheIeen Oh right, YOU were one of them. Dude, you couldn't get elected city dogcatcher let alone a U.S. Senator. Quit flattering yourself. Show me a video where Strom Thurmond (who was old enough to be Ted Kennedy's father) received that kind of standing ovation at a time he showed up on the Senate floor following one of his two dozen hospitalizations.
@GeorgiaKev HEY IDIOT. I WAS INDICATING THAT I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE APPLAUDING HIS SOON DEMISE. NOT THAT I WAS ON THE SENATE FLOOR, ONE OF THE SENATORS. Dope. Do people pity you when you are the only one puzzled and not laughing at the joke.
@KidSheIeen I know what you meant. So, let me ask you this.....how do you know with certainty that the Republican senators who were applauding were actually applauding his terminal illness? I don't think they'd have personally told you that unless you were standing on the floor with them. Of course you were applauding Kennedy's illness. You couldn't ever beat him at election time so you were ecstatic when a tragic illness ended his career. Typical classless conservative.
@GeorgiaKev Kennedy drunk in his Florida mansion chasing young girls. There is an image of class for you. Or Clinton sticking a cigar in Monica's hangar. More class. Democrats have lowered the standard so if you can stand upright in a tuxedo while using your power position to hit on young girls you're in. At least judge Bork was an honorable man. More than I can say for that murderer Teddy. Mary Jo was alive 1-2 hours and he just left her there to die. Now he's dead. And good riddance
We can never thank Sen. Kennedy enough for his role in defeating the Bork nomination. Think of all the 5-4 rulings in which Anthony Kennedy cast the deciding vote: Reaffirmation of Roe v. Wade (1992), Spoken prayers at public school graduations (1992), and the execution of children in America would still be legal (2005). RIP Senator. Thank you for your four decades of great service to civil rights, civil liberties, and health reform. Right-wingers hated you because they knew you were right.
@GeorgiaKev The execution of children in America was legal as some time in our history? What the fuck are you talking about you jackass? And how do you know how Judge Bork would have voted in any case before him? Shut the fuck up.
@KidSheIeen Absolutely was. Teen-agers were hanged back in the mid-19th century for things like stealing and punching police officers. People as late as the 1980's were executed for crimes committed when they were under 18. In fact, the Supreme Court ruled in 1988 and 1989 that states could adopt legislation for execution of people under the age of 16. Go wash your mouth out with Lysol Cleaner and do some research. Oh, and I'd be happy to BET MY HOUSE how Bork would've voted in both cases.
@KidSheIeen No, they wouldn't have been. The government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body (as the 4th Amdt. clearly encompasses a right of privacy). Furthermore, the death penalty is unconstitutional as it is a "cruel" form of punishement, forbidden under the 8th Amdnt. What about the two flag-burning cases in 1989 and 1990? Bork OPENLY said he'd have voted to uphold the ban had he been on the court. Would that ruling have been correct given the 1st Amdnt?
@KidSheIeen No, they wouldn't have been. The government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body (as the 4th Amdt clearly encompasses a right of privacy). Furthermore, the death penalty is unconstitutional as it is a "cruel" form of punishement, forbidden under the 8th Amdnt What about the two flag-burning cases in 1989 and 1990? Bork OPENLY said he'd have voted to uphold the ban had he been on the court. Would that ruling have been correct given the 1st Amdnt?
@GeorgiaKev Bork would have been one of the greatest justices in history and he was more than qualified. Plus he had about 50 IQ points higher than Kennedy and Biden combined who teamed up to deny him. The hearings were a sham and a waste of taxpayer money. They decided before that he wasn't getting in. You have no idea how Bork would have voted on ANY issue. That is because you don't understand how brilliant Bork was. And you are as fucking stupid as Biden. That's been evident for a while
@KidSheIeen Bork was too extreme to be a Supreme Court justice. You're right, the Senate should have simply voted on the nomination before the hearings and ended the entire matter. Of course, you'd have screamed that the man didn't get a fair treatment because he never got to testify before the Senate Judicary Committee.
So my intelligence level is the same as Biden's? Thanks, I don't think I'm worthy of such a compliment. You are the one who doesn't realize how brilliant Kennedy was.
@GeorgiaKev I would have screamed that he didn't get a fair hearing without Senate testimony? I think the Senate hearings are unnecessary. Maybe they should last one day and every Senator gets maybe 5 minutes of questioning for the sake to the American people and TV. But in current form the hearings are only designed for democrats to grandstand and smear Republican appointees. That's why Biden and Kennedy made me sick.
@KidSheIeen That's right, we should just put anybody the president personally handpicks and immediately put them in one of the most powerful positions in the country, that being a seat on the Supreme Court. Are you freakin' kidding me? Anybody appointed to a seat on the Supreme Court should have their background THOROUGHLY examined. In fact, I don't think any judge should be confirmed without at least 60% approval of the Senate.
Ted Kennedy's America is a land in which a woman can die because they were riding with a drunk driver, and the driver responsible could go on to serve in the Senate for 40+ years.
I read about this, and the autthor makes a good point; the year before there had been no Iran-Contra, there was a Republican congress and all the fury was over Rehnquist for chief justice. Had Reagan nominated Bork to replace Rehnquist, a hardline conservative, then he would probably have slipped through easily. The next year Scalia could have been appointed, all but daring the Senate to reject the first Italian nominee...
@kkhwt But instead; Reagan nominated Scalia in 1986 (who was confirmed 99-0) because all the senate attention was focused on Rehnquist); By 1987:
-Reagan's staff had all been replaced; none had experience with judicial nominees; they attempted to portray Bork as a moderate, which he wasn't; they also weren't prepared to handle any backlash because they were so confident
-Bork is ultra-conservative, but Powell was moderate, which made it so he would shift the court; this made him a tempting target
-And the there's Bork himself; quite frankly, he scares people. He was so cinfident in his own credentials that he forgot that he had to convince the senators to vote for him; he wasn't witty, charming, eloquent, and came across as cold, aloof and arrogant.. Plus there's the political aspect; he claims there's no constitutional right to privacy...
And technically he is right. But the people of the United States appreciate their privacy quite a lot, even if it's not in the constitution. Members of the SCOTUS may be appointed, but the people who confirm them, i.e. the senate, are elected and beholden to their constituants, and if their constituants demand a right to privace... they felt they'd be committine political suicide by voting to confirm someone who does not believe the people have a right to privacy. The result:
More Republicans (6) voted against Bork than there were Democrats (2) voting in favor. My point is, this appointment was a complete mess, so many things were done wrong at a findamental level... it was doomed from the start.
Thank's for reading all of this; you get a gold star if you've read the entire thread :-)
Evil wins it doesn't matter she will be confirmed and Obama will get everything he wants like the spoiled child he is. Until our next democratically elected dictator.
Candidates lie and stonewall. It's not the people who elect Supreme Court judtices anyway so why have C-Span cover this charade anymore. If I don't elect them I don't need to know them.
I think we should revert to not having public confirmation hearings. I don't need radical activists purjuring themselves and stonewalling with impunity. I know they must be impartial but how are we even to discover that prospective justices are biased? We never uncover their biases.
Kagan's America is one run amuk with AIDS and sexual criminals. Pedophilia is tolerated. Big expansive government regulates the sexual aspect of every citizen. Government is in the bedroom. Can we really want to live in this far left America? FMLA applies to pedophile families because they are "alternative"?
Bork's "originalist" philosphy is an intellectual fraud. It's not an analytic method of interpreting the Constitution but justy a slogan that can support any outcome a judge wants. His "orginalism" supports Big Government measures like no right to bear arms (Bork say there's no personal right to own a gun), abolishes the Ninth Amendment, and allows at will censorship of nonpolitical speech (hide your Harry Potter novels).
Ted was right, like always. Robert Bork was a neanderthal. Ted will go down in history as one of the greatest champions of the liberal cause. Bork will be relegated to the dustbin of history because his views were not modern.
@Albyiscool . Cheney was hunting flightless, cage raised birds, from a car. That is not in dispute. He also had been drinking -- at first there were denials but it later came out.
That's usually how you hunt if you're like 70 years old. I don't think there's any evidence that he was in a car (like it matters) and do you think one beer after 5 hours gets somebody hammered?
Either way I am highly amused that you are trying to compare this with Chappiquidick
@Albyiscool . You really believe that one beer (before lunch, mind you!) story.
At least Chappaquidick cost Kennedy the presidency.
All that happened to Cheney after shooting a guy in the face after one (!) beer was that the guy apologized to him. No legal action taken against him, no censure in his job, and his supporters rushed to defend him -- just as you are now. Sad, really
Well since there is no evidence to support that except for your personal hatred of Dick Cheney- I'm going to believe it.
Well at least it didn't cost him his Senate seat...Ted Kennedy killed a woman while drunk, did not call the police, and now he's remembered as a hero? The man who is shot personally forgives Dick Cheney, but that doesn't bring the story to an end?
@Albyiscool . The fact that you are ignorant of the circumstances surrounding Cheney shooting a guy in the face is not the same thing as "there is no evidence to support that"
The man Cheney shot did not forgive Cheney -- he asked Cheney to forgive him!
The most acrimonious battle over a Supreme Court nominee in history. This was amazing, considering that Scalia, a justice almost as conservative as Bork, was confirmed 98-0 just the previous year.
...poetic justice that a Republican got his seat. Kennedy got away with things that would land anyone else in jail or worse. All politics aside, of course. And let's not forget how Joe Biden crucified Clarence Thomas in his confirmation hearings...and look who his boss is now.
Ted Kennedys world is a world were he get into a car drunk out of his mind and forces a 22 yr old women to get in the car then drives off a bridge and leaves her their to die while he goes home to sober up and the idiots of Massachusetts kept reelecting the murderer is unbelievable
This really makes a person think...about installing a urinal in the garage. Ted Kennedy was behind the criminalizing of Laetrile: the cure, preventative & treatment for the chronic metabolic disease known as cancer. He's maggot meat now.
Ted Kennedy attacked Bork for the alleged policy implications of Bork's views. In most cases, those alleged implications were figments of Kennedy's warped imagination.
Furthermore, Bork was ttacked for his position on the Constitution. Bork thought judges should occassionally read the thing. Liberals want judges to make policy, whatever the Constitution may say.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
People like Bork are pro Big-Government. They believe that government, not the individual, knows what's best for them. They support 1000% the right of government dominion over man. Robert Bork and his merry band of right wingers know what's best for you.
@ greensox57: Your statement is an incomprehensible mess, and speaks volumes about your ideological loyalties. You realize that the right wing as of right now are defending us from Big Government, yes? That it is Democrats who want exactly what you claim to be opposed to. It is the merry band of left wingers who think they know what's best for you, and they will stop at nothing to silence opposition. The sad part is your logic is so twisted that you can't even see the plainly obvious.
What ring wingers are "defending" us from "big government"? Do you mean the ones I see on TV whom enabled Bush to create the largest government in world history? Republicans have never been in favor of individual rights after Lincoln. Libertarians, maybe, but the GOP is fundamentally against self-determination.
No he doesn't and no he didn't. He is an originalist, irrespective of the size of government.... the job of a judge, he rightly agrees, is to uphold the law and nothing more. Those principles not expressly articulated in legislation are not to be upheld... if a law is designed to keep the size of government small it would be his duty to uphold the law, irrespective of the consequences...
this is Law 101, you would benefit from some background reading which I can provide :)
They are neither "pro Big-government" nor pro small-government. Their job, they understand, is to protect the law without prejudice. The law, whether it is supportive or not of a larger role of government, is written by the legislature, not judges. Originalists keep those laws without any (NONE!) reference to what will happen. You are ignorant of history if you think it is only "right wingers" who are activist. Both sides have been activist, and not stuck to the law.
Robert Bork's America is a land where individual states would have the power to determine their own abortion laws, not the federal government". Women wouldn't be "forced" into back alley abortions, they would be required to comply with their states law
A women who wanted an abortion, even in the case of a rape, and could not leave her state, would, if Roe v. Wade was overturned, be forced into a back alley abortion. Robert Bork has admitted that he'd decided how he would vote on Roe, and would have his mind made up before looking at the merits of the case - judicial activism at its worst.
He's not an abortionist, and hasn't presided over 50 million or 1 abortions
Abortions, by definition, are not murder in the same way that legal executions are not, by definition, murder, due to the simple fact that statutes exist allowing capital punishment in pro-death states, and in the case of abortion statutes prohibiting the practice are absent in most states.
Murder is the unlawful, willful killing of another human being. A fetus is not a person. Constitutionally, fetuses have no rights.
You can spin it any way you want, but Kennedy was one of the biggest abortion advocates out there. He played a large role in it continuing to be legal.
Constitutional or not, abortion is murder. Fetuses are human beings, as it has been scientifically proven. The fetus has its own genetic code that is separate from the mother.
Murder is a legal term. Abortion is not prohibited by law, so it is not, by definition, murder. I think the death penalty is inhumane, but executions aren't murder, because they are, in DP states, sanctioned by law as "legal executions".
Fetuses, up to the point of "viability" as explained in Roe, cannot live outside of the mother.
I'm not saying fetuses are junk, or that abortion, is good or pleasant or should be treated as a non-serious matter, just that it might be acceptable in some cases.
It's not always a decision they made. What about rape? Does the fetus supersede the woman then? The states I listed would strike down the legality of abortion in any case.
While, yes, I believe abortion should be legal in cases of rape, women still wouldn't be forced into back alley abortions. And there is a strong case for making abortion illegal even then. Or do you think it was the fault of the baby that the woman was raped? Personally, abortion when regarding rape is a tough question to answer for me, because I cannot imagine myself in such a situation.
The fact is, most abortions aren't because of rape, they are because of irresponsibility.
"women still wouldn't be forced into back alley abortions"
Technically you're correct. The law can't force them to have a back alley abortion.
What it can do is force them to give birth (by virture of criminalizing abortion).
So, if Ted Kennedy wanted to be semantically correct, he would have said "If Robert Bork's America, women would be forced to give birth to their rapist's child".
This is the Ted Kennedy I despised. Ted Kennedy the politician, who would assassinate the character of anyone who got in the way of his political agenda. What he did to Bork was nothing short of a political lynching.
Thank God Ted Kennedy made those remarks. Had the senate confirmed a radical like Robert Bork to the bench, this government would be the all controlling disaster Conservatives don't seem to mind.
@bonghit420liberty Agreed...it should have been in that plane crash where he messed up his back and had the last molecule of a moral compass implode in his eighty-proof brain. Kopechne would still be alive, if my chronology is right.
free...no LEFTCULTthinking1 -- what fact did I get wrong? That everything Ted said about Bork was slander? That Ted offered his services to the USSR in order to defeat Reagan? That Ted would have spent jail time if his name wasn't Kennedy? Face it, the only reason Ted was a Senator so long he was MA's equivalent of a pity f**ck because of the assassinations of JFK and RFK, you leftcult moron (but I repeat myself)
wow, what a genius. Only murder in the FIRST degree is 'premeditated'. Any person not named Kennedy would have been charged with 2nd degree murder (plus various enhancements) and the people who helped Kennedy coverup his crime would have been indicted, too.
Listen dickless, you are just proving what I am saying. No charge of murder, no intent. Did your large mind make it pass kindergarten? Brainless fuckin' conservative like the rest.
of course Ted wasn't charged... he's a KENNEDY! They are never held responsible for what they do...rape/murder/et al. But hey, you're a Leftcult moron, so what is the life of some woman compared to the Teddy "legacy"? It's good to be the King!
Hey, what's all this hyperbolic hammering of an honest judge. I thought they said on TV that Kennedy was always soooooo civil and never used personal attacks. Oh, I forgot, the comment came from those lying libs in the media.
This hack Kennedy is such a liar and a fraud. This buffoon destroys a great American like Bork. He represents the worst in American politics.A truly detestable murdering scumbag.
Agreed, ed2kou1. This was pack of lies marked an all time low for this despicable jerk. These slanders were politically driven, yet personal in nature, and supersede any feeble attempts to canonize him.
So, Ted Kennedy should have gone to the electric chair for Chappaquiddick? After all, we all know that he murdered Kopechne, don't we... after all, what else would an evil Kennedy do to a young woman who is not his wife?
Yeah but, even a fool, couldn't defend This drunk. He drove the car off the bridge. He went home slept it off, then he called the police. He left her their to die! Michael Jackson at least had a trial, and was judged in fromt of his peers. Comparing the 2 is just plain STUPID! I'm trying to be nice.
NO! Say you work at walmart, you call the BOSS up, you tell him he's getting a pay cut and shorter vacations. Along with alot of rules. You the EMPLOYEE will take a raise and longer vacations! That's half ass backwards. WE THE PEOPLE THEY WORK FOR US!! Another thing you ever notice. YOU ALWAYS GET MORE LAWS! DO WE EVER GET MORE FREEDOMS! PUBLIC Devoted to the welfare or well being of the community. Service Act of helpful activity. Service The work of a servent. IS THAT CONGRESS!!
I watched this the day it happened. As a Catholic the Kennedys have always been a source of embarassment. But Teddy's hypocrocy was over the top. He fought for civil rights and social justice at the top of his lungs. But he was a phoney to the end. Think Mary Joe's civil rights were not violated? The lesson of mr.Bork is we have to stand up to bully's like Teddy!
Why the fuck does it matter where we came from, when in Obama's world, we can't even do something so simple as PROMOTE A FEW FUCKING SCHMUCKS AT A FIRE STATION?
What the fuck is the use of discussing where we came from, when a fucking cop can't even enforce the law without being accused of being racist by the Charlatan In Chief? Fucking leftist goons....
can you give me a link showing where Obama called the cop a racist ...i thought he said the cop acted stupidly...and also explain how Obama was involved in the New Haven firefighters case being Sodomeyer was a bush appointee.....
Obama said "the cops acted stupidly" even when he admitted he didnt know the facts of the case. then he started babbling about "the history of racial profiling, blah blah blah". So obviously he was implying that the cop was racist, you idiot. God is that the best argument you can come up with? "HE DIDNT TECHNICALLY SAY HE WAS RACIST!"
Obama is a fucking career desk jockey, all he's ever done is be a lawyer or an agitator, all he understands is petty conflict. In the world of Obama and other liberal idiots, it's not unreasonable to spend 5 years bickering over a fucking FIRE STATION. For christ's ballsing sake. And you want to talk about the USA as a "world power"? For christ's cunting sake
BTW, can you actually tell me HOW that test was racist?
The only argument i've heard so far is that it must have been racist because not as many black people got good scores as white and latino people. But i've never heard a detailed explanation of how the test was discriminatory.
This demonic scum was a unfair, mean, hypocrite of the first order. Nasty son of a bitch had alot of nerve saying these detestable comments about Robert Bork. This scum was drunk when his car went off that bridge killing that woman and then he let her drown. He then ran a hid while he sobbered up and then used his family's influence to get out of it. Their are 2 America's, an America where this embarassment can murder someone and get away with it and everyone else, and lefty's still loved him.
Patriot751 2 months ago
I hope Ted Kennedy is still slowly turning on the spit of hell.
jbjumpback 3 months ago
Senator Edward M. Kennedy.....we loved you for the enemies you made!
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
Couldn't this cretin Kennedy have died in that car accident instead of the girl? God what a stain on our history
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Too bad you weren't in the car instead of that great liberal woman who was a die-hard supporter of the Kennedys.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev If I had been she'd have lived. Dickdance
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Dickdance? That's a new one. You can only wish that such a beautiful lady would even think of getting into your car.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev How would you know? She'd be alive if she didn't know your hero
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Because Mary Jo Kopechne had enough intelligence to avoid right-wing lowlifes. Had that tragic accident not occured, Ted Kennedy would have served eight years as president. July 18, 1969 was the happiest day for right-wingers in America.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev "Because Mary Jo Kopechne had enough intelligence....." I'm willing to bet 3 to 1 that you know absolutely nothing about her life but what you are now going to look up on google. And if she hadn'g gotten into the car with a silver spoon drunken womanizer who was also a moron whose father purchased his degree from Yale and knew a few more Republicans she'd be alive today. If she used her intelligence instead of her naivete
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen And I'll bet 10 to 1 that you don't know jack-shit about the Kennedys except that they played a major role in ending segregation in the south, which was more than enough to earn the eternal, bitter hatred of right-wingers. BTW, Ted Kennedy graduated from HARVARD, and not Yale. And finally, Mary Jo Kopechne was was a speechwriter for Sen. Robert Kennedy and had also worked on his presidential campaign the prior year. Don't think she'd have taken those jobs if she wasn't a liberal.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Don't know Jack Shit? How about dad being ambassador to England and a supporter of Adolf Hitler (alot were in the 30's). And that Kennedy money is illegal bootleg money, illegal stock option inside trading money and Hollywood film money (JFK's dad was fucking Gloria Swanson and didn't even come home when his first kid was born because of the poon). One more thing. Mary Jo was a DEAD liberal. And but for Teddy she'd be alive today. Dickdance
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
.....As for segregation, Sen Everette Dirkson R-Ilinois did more to end it than Jack Kennedy did until Kennedy had the bully pulpit (not that it was bad in that sense) of the POTUS. But it was his brother Robert's impetus as Atty General that pushed JFK in that theater. JFK as a Senator didn't want to touch the issue.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
.....And I almost forgot. About Mary Jo, Kennedy did not have a valid driver's licence when interviewed by police the next day. But soon after one was obtained from the dept of motor vehicles. I had forgotten that I'd read that in a book on the crime years ago. So not only did he serve a short suspended sentence for murder, he didn't even get a traffic ticket for his crime. Their is your hero.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Sounds like a smart politician to me.....had JFK gotten mixed up in the segregation battles in the Senate in the 1950's it would have weakened him politically. He waited until he got in the White House where he had the power to bring about serious change. "When hunting with one bullet, you wait for a clear shot."
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Actually JFK was too aloof and lazy to care. But whatever floats your boat. I know you people believe in Camelot and all that rubbish.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Aloof and lazy? You have Reagan mixed up with Kennedy. Reagan worked less than 2 hours/day while president and nearly two of his eight years were spent out at his ranch in California. Kennedy wouldn't be so hated in the south if it wasn't for his role in making civil rights a reality. But hey, whatever floats your boat. We all know you Kennedy-haters can't stomach the fact that the water fountain you drink from may have been used by a black person just moments earlier.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Listen stupid. Kennedy had an injury to his back from the war. He had Graves disease which made him tired and irritable and he was busy fucking girls brought into the back door of the White House. And he was naturally laid back and aloof even as a youth. HIs old man had brother Joe targeted for a political career but it went to Jack as the next oldest when Joe was killed in the war. JFK did not care about civil rights as a Senator and knew he was a long shot for POTUS. Get your....
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
......head out of the camelots ass.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Okay, so now you're going after JFK's health problems? WTF does that have to do with anything that he stood for? We had a total invalid in the White House from 1985 to 1989 who was suffering from Alzheimer's and had his entire staff cover it up. But that's okay.....you go right on hating the Kennedys. As I said from the beginning, I love them most for the enemies they made.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Hey dummy. Are you serious that JFK's heath issues didn't affect his performance? Besides all that I already explained to you that JFK was aloof and laid back. Like in the PONY EATS POTUS event. Oh but Reagan's challenges did, right?? You can't even see how illogical your logical fallacies are. And Reagan didn't have Alzheimers. Because YOU CANNOT COVER THAT UP. You ignorant slut. I don't hate the Kennedys. I hated Ted only. JFK and RFK I'm just realistic about unlike your blind butt
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Reagan didn't have Alzheimer's??? And you say that I live on Mars? Sheesh.....
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimers disease in 2004. I took personal care of my father who was determined to have dementia. Another doctor told me it could be the beginnings of Alzheimers. Do you know anything personally about the two? My dad died this year. He had memory issues and other issues but his character was as strong as ever. And he was as intelligent as ever. We had a total invalid in the White House? Go fuck yourself
KidSheIeen 3 months ago
@KidSheIeen Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 1993 and he revealed his illness to the public in 1994 (he died in 2004). However, he was clearly in the early stages of Alzheimers throughout his second term and the White House staff covered it up. The only reason I brought up Reagan's health issues is because YOU brought up Kennedy's health issues.
In any case, I'm very sorry to hear about your father. My sympathies are with you and your family.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Reagan left office in Jan 1989. He was a lame duck in office at that time unable to run again. If he was diagnosed in 93 that is 4 years later. Alot can happen in 4 years. My father was diagnosed with beginning stages dementia in 2005 and when he died in April 2011 he was still in a stage of dementia on the way to possible Alzheimers. He was still able to interact socially. His sense of humor was intact. He loved nature the same way as in the past. His opinions were as strong...
KidSheIeen 2 months ago
....and as impeccable as they always were. But sometimes he got lost driving. And once he was able to name my three sisters and one brother but looked me straight in the eyes and insisted that I was his brother and got angry when I told him that I was his son. That was in Feb 2011. What went on in the White House with Reagan you've done a terrible job of characterizing. And you obviously know nothing about the disease. Thank you for your sympathy. I appreciate it.
KidSheIeen 2 months ago
Comment removed
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen As you said, many people in the mid-1930's saw Hitler as a strong leader who was rebuilding his country from the inside (how do you think Berlin was awarded the 1936 Olympics?). What does the crap Joe Kennedy did have to do with his son? NOTHING. Yes, Ted Kennedy was initially elected to the Senate due to his name, but he MORE THAN EARNED his right to keep the job for as long as he did. He was one of the hardest-working Senators in U.S. history, and even Repubs agree.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Hardest working? He was a bum. Senator isn't a hard job if you have a safe seat and can never lose an election. He never worked a day in his life.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
Comment removed
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen You're totally clueless if you believe one word of what you just said.
Here, take a look at the spontaneous several minute-long standing ovation Kennedy received (from BOTH sides of the aisle) when he returned to the Senate floor after being diagnosed with cancer. You find me ONE other senator over the past 50 years who ever received such an honor from their Senate colleagues (including adversaries).
watch?v=3NWE-YEdZXY
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev I've seen it. You're the one living on Mars dipshit. Half of those people were applauding because they secretly (even to themselves) knew he would be finally pushing up daisies soon. I was one of them.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Oh right, YOU were one of them. Dude, you couldn't get elected city dogcatcher let alone a U.S. Senator. Quit flattering yourself. Show me a video where Strom Thurmond (who was old enough to be Ted Kennedy's father) received that kind of standing ovation at a time he showed up on the Senate floor following one of his two dozen hospitalizations.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev HEY IDIOT. I WAS INDICATING THAT I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE APPLAUDING HIS SOON DEMISE. NOT THAT I WAS ON THE SENATE FLOOR, ONE OF THE SENATORS. Dope. Do people pity you when you are the only one puzzled and not laughing at the joke.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen I know what you meant. So, let me ask you this.....how do you know with certainty that the Republican senators who were applauding were actually applauding his terminal illness? I don't think they'd have personally told you that unless you were standing on the floor with them. Of course you were applauding Kennedy's illness. You couldn't ever beat him at election time so you were ecstatic when a tragic illness ended his career. Typical classless conservative.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Kennedy drunk in his Florida mansion chasing young girls. There is an image of class for you. Or Clinton sticking a cigar in Monica's hangar. More class. Democrats have lowered the standard so if you can stand upright in a tuxedo while using your power position to hit on young girls you're in. At least judge Bork was an honorable man. More than I can say for that murderer Teddy. Mary Jo was alive 1-2 hours and he just left her there to die. Now he's dead. And good riddance
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
We can never thank Sen. Kennedy enough for his role in defeating the Bork nomination. Think of all the 5-4 rulings in which Anthony Kennedy cast the deciding vote: Reaffirmation of Roe v. Wade (1992), Spoken prayers at public school graduations (1992), and the execution of children in America would still be legal (2005). RIP Senator. Thank you for your four decades of great service to civil rights, civil liberties, and health reform. Right-wingers hated you because they knew you were right.
GeorgiaKev 6 months ago
@GeorgiaKev The execution of children in America was legal as some time in our history? What the fuck are you talking about you jackass? And how do you know how Judge Bork would have voted in any case before him? Shut the fuck up.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Absolutely was. Teen-agers were hanged back in the mid-19th century for things like stealing and punching police officers. People as late as the 1980's were executed for crimes committed when they were under 18. In fact, the Supreme Court ruled in 1988 and 1989 that states could adopt legislation for execution of people under the age of 16. Go wash your mouth out with Lysol Cleaner and do some research. Oh, and I'd be happy to BET MY HOUSE how Bork would've voted in both cases.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Well if you were right about how he would have voted, and I think I know what you would say, his votes would have been correct.
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen No, they wouldn't have been. The government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body (as the 4th Amdt. clearly encompasses a right of privacy). Furthermore, the death penalty is unconstitutional as it is a "cruel" form of punishement, forbidden under the 8th Amdnt. What about the two flag-burning cases in 1989 and 1990? Bork OPENLY said he'd have voted to uphold the ban had he been on the court. Would that ruling have been correct given the 1st Amdnt?
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen No, they wouldn't have been. The government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her own body (as the 4th Amdt clearly encompasses a right of privacy). Furthermore, the death penalty is unconstitutional as it is a "cruel" form of punishement, forbidden under the 8th Amdnt What about the two flag-burning cases in 1989 and 1990? Bork OPENLY said he'd have voted to uphold the ban had he been on the court. Would that ruling have been correct given the 1st Amdnt?
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev Bork would have been one of the greatest justices in history and he was more than qualified. Plus he had about 50 IQ points higher than Kennedy and Biden combined who teamed up to deny him. The hearings were a sham and a waste of taxpayer money. They decided before that he wasn't getting in. You have no idea how Bork would have voted on ANY issue. That is because you don't understand how brilliant Bork was. And you are as fucking stupid as Biden. That's been evident for a while
KidSheIeen 4 months ago
@KidSheIeen Bork was too extreme to be a Supreme Court justice. You're right, the Senate should have simply voted on the nomination before the hearings and ended the entire matter. Of course, you'd have screamed that the man didn't get a fair treatment because he never got to testify before the Senate Judicary Committee.
So my intelligence level is the same as Biden's? Thanks, I don't think I'm worthy of such a compliment. You are the one who doesn't realize how brilliant Kennedy was.
GeorgiaKev 4 months ago
@GeorgiaKev I would have screamed that he didn't get a fair hearing without Senate testimony? I think the Senate hearings are unnecessary. Maybe they should last one day and every Senator gets maybe 5 minutes of questioning for the sake to the American people and TV. But in current form the hearings are only designed for democrats to grandstand and smear Republican appointees. That's why Biden and Kennedy made me sick.
KidSheIeen 3 months ago
@KidSheIeen That's right, we should just put anybody the president personally handpicks and immediately put them in one of the most powerful positions in the country, that being a seat on the Supreme Court. Are you freakin' kidding me? Anybody appointed to a seat on the Supreme Court should have their background THOROUGHLY examined. In fact, I don't think any judge should be confirmed without at least 60% approval of the Senate.
GeorgiaKev 3 months ago
damn, he got cooked...
GreatVgnc 8 months ago
Every time anybody ever saw Kennedy, they should have said "Chappaquiddick".
7beers 9 months ago
so glad this douche is dead
pockmarkedbuttocks 1 year ago
Bork on the High Court would of been a mistake. This guy made Rehnquist and Scalia look like Liberals.
Einsteinbomb 1 year ago
Ted Kennedy was a PIG.
Nobama0000 1 year ago
@Nobama0000 Yes. OINK OINK.
most brazen hypocrite.
thetruthatlast100 1 year ago
Ted Kennedy's America is a land in which a woman can die because they were riding with a drunk driver, and the driver responsible could go on to serve in the Senate for 40+ years.
dunkelfier 1 year ago 2
Now we have the wise latina and the troll from under the bridge. Great.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
I read about this, and the autthor makes a good point; the year before there had been no Iran-Contra, there was a Republican congress and all the fury was over Rehnquist for chief justice. Had Reagan nominated Bork to replace Rehnquist, a hardline conservative, then he would probably have slipped through easily. The next year Scalia could have been appointed, all but daring the Senate to reject the first Italian nominee...
kkhwt 1 year ago
@kkhwt But instead; Reagan nominated Scalia in 1986 (who was confirmed 99-0) because all the senate attention was focused on Rehnquist); By 1987:
-Reagan's staff had all been replaced; none had experience with judicial nominees; they attempted to portray Bork as a moderate, which he wasn't; they also weren't prepared to handle any backlash because they were so confident
-The Senate was back in Democratic hands
-Iran-Contra had hurt Reagan
kkhwt 1 year ago
@kkhwt
-Bork is ultra-conservative, but Powell was moderate, which made it so he would shift the court; this made him a tempting target
-And the there's Bork himself; quite frankly, he scares people. He was so cinfident in his own credentials that he forgot that he had to convince the senators to vote for him; he wasn't witty, charming, eloquent, and came across as cold, aloof and arrogant.. Plus there's the political aspect; he claims there's no constitutional right to privacy...
kkhwt 1 year ago
@kkhwt
And technically he is right. But the people of the United States appreciate their privacy quite a lot, even if it's not in the constitution. Members of the SCOTUS may be appointed, but the people who confirm them, i.e. the senate, are elected and beholden to their constituants, and if their constituants demand a right to privace... they felt they'd be committine political suicide by voting to confirm someone who does not believe the people have a right to privacy. The result:
kkhwt 1 year ago
@kkhwt
More Republicans (6) voted against Bork than there were Democrats (2) voting in favor. My point is, this appointment was a complete mess, so many things were done wrong at a findamental level... it was doomed from the start.
Thank's for reading all of this; you get a gold star if you've read the entire thread :-)
kkhwt 1 year ago
Evil wins it doesn't matter she will be confirmed and Obama will get everything he wants like the spoiled child he is. Until our next democratically elected dictator.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
Candidates lie and stonewall. It's not the people who elect Supreme Court judtices anyway so why have C-Span cover this charade anymore. If I don't elect them I don't need to know them.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
TED IS DEAD! hahahahahahaha. I'm glad. He was a bitch.
yarneyboy24 1 year ago
I think we should revert to not having public confirmation hearings. I don't need radical activists purjuring themselves and stonewalling with impunity. I know they must be impartial but how are we even to discover that prospective justices are biased? We never uncover their biases.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
Kagan's America is one run amuk with AIDS and sexual criminals. Pedophilia is tolerated. Big expansive government regulates the sexual aspect of every citizen. Government is in the bedroom. Can we really want to live in this far left America? FMLA applies to pedophile families because they are "alternative"?
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
@ToxicOdiousOne And your basing this on...? Nothing.
Theblizzardking 1 year ago
this was all lies. Thanks to the sensationalist American media spreading crap all over the place, lies get more attention than truth
FlawdaFootball 1 year ago 3
epic borking
flipperwhipper 1 year ago
Is Nazi Joe's last big mistake still dead?
Armigerous 1 year ago
Bork had his ass handed to him! xD
JoseTwitterFan 1 year ago
It's hot where Teddy Kennedy is. Not a good man.
TallRingo 1 year ago
@TallRingo you cock boy
greeniem 1 year ago
Bork's "originalist" philosphy is an intellectual fraud. It's not an analytic method of interpreting the Constitution but justy a slogan that can support any outcome a judge wants. His "orginalism" supports Big Government measures like no right to bear arms (Bork say there's no personal right to own a gun), abolishes the Ninth Amendment, and allows at will censorship of nonpolitical speech (hide your Harry Potter novels).
sirius212ify 1 year ago
Ted was right, like always. Robert Bork was a neanderthal. Ted will go down in history as one of the greatest champions of the liberal cause. Bork will be relegated to the dustbin of history because his views were not modern.
tyrionoutrider 1 year ago
@tyrionoutrider
Ted will go down in history because of his wealth and family.
Bork will be ridiculed because his beliefs are not appreciated by the liberal, elitist, drunk-driving class of American politics.
Learn about Constitutional law you dolt
Albyiscool 1 year ago
Roast in hell, you fat pile of shit.
rob32909 1 year ago
I'm glad this guy's gone.
oeyamatsuna78 1 year ago
I was taught to never say anything bad about the dead. Only something good. So Teddy Kennedy is dead. GOOD!!
rebeldoe 1 year ago
@Torbon8372 . Or drunkenly shoot lawyers in the face while hunting flightless birds from your Limo?
oldjoe5 1 year ago
@oldjoe5
Do people hunt in limos now?
Albyiscool 1 year ago
@Albyiscool: Dick Cheney does
oldjoe5 1 year ago
@oldjoe5
thats a pretty stupid thing to think. besides, he wasn't drunk- only a Kennedy would do that
Albyiscool 1 year ago
@Albyiscool . Cheney was hunting flightless, cage raised birds, from a car. That is not in dispute. He also had been drinking -- at first there were denials but it later came out.
oldjoe5 1 year ago
@oldjoe5
That's usually how you hunt if you're like 70 years old. I don't think there's any evidence that he was in a car (like it matters) and do you think one beer after 5 hours gets somebody hammered?
Either way I am highly amused that you are trying to compare this with Chappiquidick
Albyiscool 1 year ago
@Albyiscool . You really believe that one beer (before lunch, mind you!) story.
At least Chappaquidick cost Kennedy the presidency.
All that happened to Cheney after shooting a guy in the face after one (!) beer was that the guy apologized to him. No legal action taken against him, no censure in his job, and his supporters rushed to defend him -- just as you are now. Sad, really
oldjoe5 1 year ago
@oldjoe5
Well since there is no evidence to support that except for your personal hatred of Dick Cheney- I'm going to believe it.
Well at least it didn't cost him his Senate seat...Ted Kennedy killed a woman while drunk, did not call the police, and now he's remembered as a hero? The man who is shot personally forgives Dick Cheney, but that doesn't bring the story to an end?
Albyiscool 1 year ago 2
@Albyiscool . The fact that you are ignorant of the circumstances surrounding Cheney shooting a guy in the face is not the same thing as "there is no evidence to support that"
The man Cheney shot did not forgive Cheney -- he asked Cheney to forgive him!
My God, do you really not know this?
oldjoe5 1 year ago
@oldjoe5
Yes it is, Because if there was any legitimacy to that theory, you wouldn't be the only person saying it.
Same difference.
Albyiscool 1 year ago
@Albyiscool. Maybe you ought to look into the facts a bit before you act smug in your ignorance?
oldjoe5 1 year ago
@oldjoe5
I wouldn't be in a position to talk if I was trying to exonerate a drunk murderer by bringing up a hunting accident.
Albyiscool 1 year ago 7
There was barely a time where Ted Kennedy was so right about something.
TheKevinWalker 1 year ago
The most acrimonious battle over a Supreme Court nominee in history. This was amazing, considering that Scalia, a justice almost as conservative as Bork, was confirmed 98-0 just the previous year.
NYerintransit 1 year ago
...poetic justice that a Republican got his seat. Kennedy got away with things that would land anyone else in jail or worse. All politics aside, of course. And let's not forget how Joe Biden crucified Clarence Thomas in his confirmation hearings...and look who his boss is now.
irishmermaid4 2 years ago
Ted Kennedys world is a world were he get into a car drunk out of his mind and forces a 22 yr old women to get in the car then drives off a bridge and leaves her their to die while he goes home to sober up and the idiots of Massachusetts kept reelecting the murderer is unbelievable
pattaya95 2 years ago
BOOK 21
This really makes a person think...about installing a urinal in the garage. Ted Kennedy was behind the criminalizing of Laetrile: the cure, preventative & treatment for the chronic metabolic disease known as cancer. He's maggot meat now.
ScientificalnessUSA 2 years ago
I think Kennedy almost made up for the Chappaquiddick incident by blocking Bork's nomination. That guy really was a neanderthal!!
sbone0083 2 years ago
Comment removed
swampdonkey5150 2 years ago
oh ya its okay he killed a lady and ran away...as long as he assassinated the character of a big mean conservative
Albyiscool 2 years ago
I was clearly being sarcastic. Didn't mean to offend.
sbone0083 2 years ago
Ted Kennedy attacked Bork for the alleged policy implications of Bork's views. In most cases, those alleged implications were figments of Kennedy's warped imagination.
Furthermore, Bork was ttacked for his position on the Constitution. Bork thought judges should occassionally read the thing. Liberals want judges to make policy, whatever the Constitution may say.
DetectiveTackett 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
People like Bork are pro Big-Government. They believe that government, not the individual, knows what's best for them. They support 1000% the right of government dominion over man. Robert Bork and his merry band of right wingers know what's best for you.
greensox57 2 years ago
@ greensox57: Your statement is an incomprehensible mess, and speaks volumes about your ideological loyalties. You realize that the right wing as of right now are defending us from Big Government, yes? That it is Democrats who want exactly what you claim to be opposed to. It is the merry band of left wingers who think they know what's best for you, and they will stop at nothing to silence opposition. The sad part is your logic is so twisted that you can't even see the plainly obvious.
HapaLife 2 years ago 4
What ring wingers are "defending" us from "big government"? Do you mean the ones I see on TV whom enabled Bush to create the largest government in world history? Republicans have never been in favor of individual rights after Lincoln. Libertarians, maybe, but the GOP is fundamentally against self-determination.
Eastmanarium 2 years ago
No he doesn't and no he didn't. He is an originalist, irrespective of the size of government.... the job of a judge, he rightly agrees, is to uphold the law and nothing more. Those principles not expressly articulated in legislation are not to be upheld... if a law is designed to keep the size of government small it would be his duty to uphold the law, irrespective of the consequences...
this is Law 101, you would benefit from some background reading which I can provide :)
AlecsDeLarge 2 years ago 7
@AlecsDeLarge
You stand there with your laws, I stand here with my bayonets. We will see which prevails. -Adolf Hitler
Hydra773 1 year ago
Wow, WTF are you talking about?
Vodka2389 2 years ago
They are neither "pro Big-government" nor pro small-government. Their job, they understand, is to protect the law without prejudice. The law, whether it is supportive or not of a larger role of government, is written by the legislature, not judges. Originalists keep those laws without any (NONE!) reference to what will happen. You are ignorant of history if you think it is only "right wingers" who are activist. Both sides have been activist, and not stuck to the law.
AlecsDeLarge 2 years ago
Badasschill - Robert Bork did not believe in segregation. Do your homework.
Everything Kennedy said in this clip was bullsh*t. This clip is a perfect example of liberal fear mongering.
This country is better off with Kennedy gone.
hairplugs1 2 years ago
"Everything Kennedy said in this clip was bullsh*t"
KENNEDY: "...women would be forced into back alley abortions..."
NEWSWEEK: "Would you be the fifth vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?"
BORK: "Oh, of course. It's one of the most corrupt decisions I've ever seen."
In LA, MO, OH, UT, and VA, there are trigger laws which would criminalize _any_ abortion if Roe is overturned.
Thus, women would be forced into back alley abortions.
Kennedy was correct. The country is worse off for his passing.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
Robert Bork's America is a land where individual states would have the power to determine their own abortion laws, not the federal government". Women wouldn't be "forced" into back alley abortions, they would be required to comply with their states law
hairplugs1 2 years ago
A women who wanted an abortion, even in the case of a rape, and could not leave her state, would, if Roe v. Wade was overturned, be forced into a back alley abortion. Robert Bork has admitted that he'd decided how he would vote on Roe, and would have his mind made up before looking at the merits of the case - judicial activism at its worst.
joshatkins94 2 years ago 2
".... judicial activism at its worst. "
Tortured logic at its worst.
DetectiveTackett 2 years ago
Kennedy presided over 50 million murders in our country, yet had the audacity to criticize wars that cost American lives.
He was a giant hypocrite and leaves a sad legacy.
tmacvink 2 years ago
He's not an abortionist, and hasn't presided over 50 million or 1 abortions
Abortions, by definition, are not murder in the same way that legal executions are not, by definition, murder, due to the simple fact that statutes exist allowing capital punishment in pro-death states, and in the case of abortion statutes prohibiting the practice are absent in most states.
Murder is the unlawful, willful killing of another human being. A fetus is not a person. Constitutionally, fetuses have no rights.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
You can spin it any way you want, but Kennedy was one of the biggest abortion advocates out there. He played a large role in it continuing to be legal.
Constitutional or not, abortion is murder. Fetuses are human beings, as it has been scientifically proven. The fetus has its own genetic code that is separate from the mother.
tmacvink 2 years ago
Murder is a legal term. Abortion is not prohibited by law, so it is not, by definition, murder. I think the death penalty is inhumane, but executions aren't murder, because they are, in DP states, sanctioned by law as "legal executions".
Fetuses, up to the point of "viability" as explained in Roe, cannot live outside of the mother.
I'm not saying fetuses are junk, or that abortion, is good or pleasant or should be treated as a non-serious matter, just that it might be acceptable in some cases.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
Women wouldn't be forced to do anything. What would happen is women who get pregnant would be forced to live with the decisions they made.
redsox28282828 2 years ago
"Women wouldn't be forced to do anything"
They'd be forced to give birth.
It's not always a decision they made. What about rape? Does the fetus supersede the woman then? The states I listed would strike down the legality of abortion in any case.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
While, yes, I believe abortion should be legal in cases of rape, women still wouldn't be forced into back alley abortions. And there is a strong case for making abortion illegal even then. Or do you think it was the fault of the baby that the woman was raped? Personally, abortion when regarding rape is a tough question to answer for me, because I cannot imagine myself in such a situation.
The fact is, most abortions aren't because of rape, they are because of irresponsibility.
redsox28282828 2 years ago
"women still wouldn't be forced into back alley abortions"
Technically you're correct. The law can't force them to have a back alley abortion.
What it can do is force them to give birth (by virture of criminalizing abortion).
So, if Ted Kennedy wanted to be semantically correct, he would have said "If Robert Bork's America, women would be forced to give birth to their rapist's child".
joshatkins94 2 years ago
in*.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
This is the Ted Kennedy I despised. Ted Kennedy the politician, who would assassinate the character of anyone who got in the way of his political agenda. What he did to Bork was nothing short of a political lynching.
antilibercrat 2 years ago 2
Thank God Ted Kennedy made those remarks. Had the senate confirmed a radical like Robert Bork to the bench, this government would be the all controlling disaster Conservatives don't seem to mind.
Doc418 2 years ago
Mary Jo says hello TED from Hell why didnt you at least try to save me?
PLASMOLE 2 years ago
For once, a politician thinking about the greater good of society and not about his own special interests. RIP Ted, you will be greatly missed.
Howaboutno2007 2 years ago
Thank god he's dead. 40 years too late.
bonghit420liberty 2 years ago
Oh, look. An inappropriate, ignorant comment from someone named 'bonghit.' What an idiot. Do the world a favor and sterilize yourself.
trendyfungus 2 years ago
@bonghit420liberty Agreed...it should have been in that plane crash where he messed up his back and had the last molecule of a moral compass implode in his eighty-proof brain. Kopechne would still be alive, if my chronology is right.
irishmermaid4 2 years ago
darclick, Bork's agenda was to destroy citizens' rights & let millionaires & corporations rule them pitilessly & abuse them with impunity.
loupgarou5z3w 2 years ago
in addition to this lying statement, Ted kennedy also offered his services to the KGB to try and undermine President Reagan. Such a swell guy!
darclick 2 years ago
Just a lying little bigot, crawl back under the rock clueless. Drinking grape or cherry today?
freethinking1 2 years ago
free...no LEFTCULTthinking1 -- what fact did I get wrong? That everything Ted said about Bork was slander? That Ted offered his services to the USSR in order to defeat Reagan? That Ted would have spent jail time if his name wasn't Kennedy? Face it, the only reason Ted was a Senator so long he was MA's equivalent of a pity f**ck because of the assassinations of JFK and RFK, you leftcult moron (but I repeat myself)
darclick 2 years ago
Kennedy was right about Bork, an evil man who wanted citizens to have no rights.
loupgarou5z3w 2 years ago
liar
darclick 2 years ago
You tell'em, Ted!
highnrising 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Finally the Jack Ass can burn in hell for murdering Mary Jo Kopechne 40 years ago!
A Murder the government & the Catholic Church supported so he could divorce is wife of 40 years
HE also got kicked out of Harvard..for cheating!
When the Kennedy's finally moved out of Palm Beach, Florida, the crime rate dropped 34%!
Americans have the Government they deserve!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Murder is premeditated, so a false statement. Conservatives are such disrespectful bastards, just little bratty children.
freethinking1 2 years ago
wow, what a genius. Only murder in the FIRST degree is 'premeditated'. Any person not named Kennedy would have been charged with 2nd degree murder (plus various enhancements) and the people who helped Kennedy coverup his crime would have been indicted, too.
darclick 2 years ago
You're the idiot genius, murder means you planned to do it. He didn't plan it, so you proved my point. It is not murder unless planned dipshit.
freethinking1 2 years ago
there is FIRST degree murder and SECOND degree murder. Both are MURDER, moron
darclick 2 years ago
Listen dickless, you are just proving what I am saying. No charge of murder, no intent. Did your large mind make it pass kindergarten? Brainless fuckin' conservative like the rest.
freethinking1 2 years ago
of course Ted wasn't charged... he's a KENNEDY! They are never held responsible for what they do...rape/murder/et al. But hey, you're a Leftcult moron, so what is the life of some woman compared to the Teddy "legacy"? It's good to be the King!
darclick 2 years ago
Whats that mean shit head liberal loser. He got away with just like he got away with serving his 2 month sentence for leaving the scene.
nixonplumber 2 years ago
Can't wait for the Bush's to go, they have a special place for those type of mass murderers.
freethinking1 2 years ago
Hey, what's all this hyperbolic hammering of an honest judge. I thought they said on TV that Kennedy was always soooooo civil and never used personal attacks. Oh, I forgot, the comment came from those lying libs in the media.
RecptBookpr 2 years ago
I glad bork wasnt nominated,best thing ted ever did.bork was a dork.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Ted kennedy was never charged like it or not.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
This hack Kennedy is such a liar and a fraud. This buffoon destroys a great American like Bork. He represents the worst in American politics.A truly detestable murdering scumbag.
VisayanPrincess 2 years ago
Looks like bork would have been a terrible justice.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Why do you say that?
ed2kou1 2 years ago
arent they?we cant do anything about the payoff for the elections.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Nobody with any sense ever said he wasn't partisan. But he could work with the other side. Unlike Senator Helms.
DrFrankLives 2 years ago
Msnbc siad he wasen't partisan and never made personal attacks. BIpartisan is overrated! God bless Helms.
ed2kou1 2 years ago
So they say Kennedy was not Partisan. They say he was a nice guy. They say he didn't make personal attacks. I say they didn't watch this VIDEO!
ed2kou1 2 years ago
Agreed, ed2kou1. This was pack of lies marked an all time low for this despicable jerk. These slanders were politically driven, yet personal in nature, and supersede any feeble attempts to canonize him.
sbpalty 2 years ago
well..good bye ted kennedy. another elitist flea bag loser out of the senate.
VISIT IDIOTS4OBAMA COM and say good bye to a total douchebag and corrupt senator.
ThePete65 2 years ago
So, Ted Kennedy should have gone to the electric chair for Chappaquiddick? After all, we all know that he murdered Kopechne, don't we... after all, what else would an evil Kennedy do to a young woman who is not his wife?
lordhighexecutioner 2 years ago
leave ted alone he was found not guilty of a crime like michael jackson.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Yeah but, even a fool, couldn't defend This drunk. He drove the car off the bridge. He went home slept it off, then he called the police. He left her their to die! Michael Jackson at least had a trial, and was judged in fromt of his peers. Comparing the 2 is just plain STUPID! I'm trying to be nice.
ed2kou1 2 years ago
ted wasn't charged,blame the police. chappaquiddicks finest?
xj2yzz 2 years ago
blame the police. chappaquiddicks finest
That I agree with.
ed2kou1 2 years ago
Ok but its up to the police.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Or it's up to how much they were paid off.
ed2kou1 2 years ago
whats wrong with that?arent politicians paid off by the insurance companies?
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Try all lobbyist.
ed2kou1 2 years ago
yes the lobbists,but we the people cant do anything about them can we?
xj2yzz 2 years ago
NO! Say you work at walmart, you call the BOSS up, you tell him he's getting a pay cut and shorter vacations. Along with alot of rules. You the EMPLOYEE will take a raise and longer vacations! That's half ass backwards. WE THE PEOPLE THEY WORK FOR US!! Another thing you ever notice. YOU ALWAYS GET MORE LAWS! DO WE EVER GET MORE FREEDOMS! PUBLIC Devoted to the welfare or well being of the community. Service Act of helpful activity. Service The work of a servent. IS THAT CONGRESS!!
ed2kou1 2 years ago
they work for lobbyists.the days of working for us never was the plan.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
Originally it was. When we started out, they politicians had jobs along with being a public servent. Public Service was not set up to make money.
ed2kou1 2 years ago
I watched this the day it happened. As a Catholic the Kennedys have always been a source of embarassment. But Teddy's hypocrocy was over the top. He fought for civil rights and social justice at the top of his lungs. But he was a phoney to the end. Think Mary Joe's civil rights were not violated? The lesson of mr.Bork is we have to stand up to bully's like Teddy!
john51880 2 years ago 3
Why the fuck is he babbling about evolution?
Why the fuck does it matter where we came from, when in Obama's world, we can't even do something so simple as PROMOTE A FEW FUCKING SCHMUCKS AT A FIRE STATION?
What the fuck is the use of discussing where we came from, when a fucking cop can't even enforce the law without being accused of being racist by the Charlatan In Chief? Fucking leftist goons....
BlackpeopleLOL 2 years ago
can you give me a link showing where Obama called the cop a racist ...i thought he said the cop acted stupidly...and also explain how Obama was involved in the New Haven firefighters case being Sodomeyer was a bush appointee.....
matthunterrlf 2 years ago
Obama said "the cops acted stupidly" even when he admitted he didnt know the facts of the case. then he started babbling about "the history of racial profiling, blah blah blah". So obviously he was implying that the cop was racist, you idiot. God is that the best argument you can come up with? "HE DIDNT TECHNICALLY SAY HE WAS RACIST!"
BlackpeopleLOL 2 years ago
Obama is a fucking career desk jockey, all he's ever done is be a lawyer or an agitator, all he understands is petty conflict. In the world of Obama and other liberal idiots, it's not unreasonable to spend 5 years bickering over a fucking FIRE STATION. For christ's ballsing sake. And you want to talk about the USA as a "world power"? For christ's cunting sake
BlackpeopleLOL 2 years ago
BTW, can you actually tell me HOW that test was racist?
The only argument i've heard so far is that it must have been racist because not as many black people got good scores as white and latino people. But i've never heard a detailed explanation of how the test was discriminatory.
BlackpeopleLOL 2 years ago