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  • SAVAGE is RIGHT....LIMBAUGH TOO.......hate= New Black Panthers

  • Fact: There WILL be death panels in ObamaCare.

  • @evilunixuser1  Proof?

  • Questioning the feasability of programs that will affect every american is not hate speech.

  • I'm pretty sure people can draw their own conclusions.

    They don't need someone to say what is wrong with those statements, because if you are stupid enough to need their bullshit pointed out for you, then maybe you shouldn't be watching these videos.

  • hmm... and we conservatives are the irrational ones!

  • Heh, heh. Anyone that doesn't see this as evil Republican insanity---is a dumb fuckin' moron that is not even worth talking about the weather with.

    Exposing "fallacies" is stupid and pathetic when yer dealing with maniacs! YOU talk with 'em---after they tire themselves out buy wasting you---I'll club 'em over the head and it'll all be good, sucker.

  • If the mission of Mediamatters4america is to correct misinformation, how does this vid qualify? I think not.

    There is no context, just quotes, and no commentary or rebuttal. Just a title that suggest a way to pass all that and just condemn. And that doesn't fly.

  • I think what they're trying to prove is it's right wing self inflicted satire. Beck goes on about health care not being a god given right, immediately it shows an utter lack of common sense. What then is a god given right? If he's implying that in the American bill of rights there is nothing mentioned about healthcare, therefore it's not a god given right, then he's saying the bill of rights is from god. Why then has the bill of rights had to have been amended 17 times. God made 7 mistakes

  • The problem with this video is that it isn't constructive as it doesn't clarify any relevant factors necessary to determine if the proposed plans are beneficial, and if so, for whom and at what cost. It only smears the opposition. To me, that can only mean that the opposition actually has a point. Otherwise, just exposing their fallacies would suffice.

    We wish great healthcare for everybody, but can we afford it? That is the real issue. So, that should be addressed.

  • @cvnl83

    Because its "2 minutes hate."

  • the god given rights, as given by the preamble of the constitution, is life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Healthcare is never denied by hospitals; its denied by insurance companies. Has no one seen American Gangster? cut out the middle man. but their is no right to health insurance, which is what the debate is about.

  • Did jesus come down with guns and start passing them out when I wasnt looking?

  • only american christians would

  • what the fuck was he saying by the end.. that guy is crazy

  • Mediamatters is good at attacking the 1st amendment and not defending it.

    Their latest victory is GMAC- Government Owned Motors has cancelled advertising on Glen Beck-------------This is a dangerous tactic as it will eventually enable the encrouchment of the gov't onto our civil liberties.

    Meadia matters is a propaganda whore for BHO!

  • What? They cannot bring to light the extreme hatred this idiot gushes out, or what any other right-wing extremest (i.e Mark Levin, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.) does or says? Calling people names and proclaiming outright lies goes against what DEMOCRACY is and should be all about.

    Use your damn brain and think people!

  • chrislynchhp, many folks listen to and like limbaugh, beck, hannity,etc. so they can get their chins stroked. they confirm folks prejudices,hates and ignorance

  • just like fox is the prized whore for the g.o.p.

  • That whore sure is busy.....Got lots of customers!

  • you could almost be funny.

  • what the fuck is the douche glen beck talking about? "there cannot be a right to health care!" - gb

    SHUT UP U TARD.

    "right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

  • wow, everything michael savage said would be true if he just substituted the word 'democrat' with 'republican'.

  • as soon as they try defending their position with jesus i just smile and shake my head...it's 2009 people...GROW UP.

  • "The needs of the many outweigh, the needs of the few, or the one!"

  • So, in the view of the Glenn Beck guy, there this sky god and his son somewhere up in the sky somehow handing out rights to people down here, but healthcare is not one of them, so you shouldn't be asking for it? Talk about crazy cults.

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  • HC/Pharma is organized and aggresively working to stop HC Reform in America. Richard Armey's group Freedomworks dot o r g is the organizer of these protests as well as the Teabagger protests. He's a registered lobbyist for Medicines Co. Source: Opensecrets dot o r g- Medicines Co. Has Paid DLA Piper, Richard Armey's Firm, $5,860,000 Since 2005. BIG Money involved here- the avg HC/Pharma CEO gets 10-30 Million per yr! Call these Dem reps today that are stalling on HC Reform!

  • A memo obtained by the Huffington Post confirms that the White House and the pharmaceutical lobby secretly agreed to precisely the sort of wide-ranging deal that both parties have been denying over the past week

    Who,s working for big Pharma??

  • Yes, whether you live or die should be a market for people to bet on.

    Let's see, how many billions have they made denying coverage (they give BONUSES for people who can find a reason to deny you your coverage) and now that the government has to step in because it's an EMERGENCY SITUATION, they're spending millions (pocket change to them) to make sure sick people never get covered, by anyone.

    Thanks Christian Right!

  • All we'd have to have done to shut you up is not faught for your rights 30 years ago. The conservative party wants you to shut up simply because you're black, they proved that fighting against giving your a right to vote for so many years... too bad we horrible liberals faught for your rights or the conservatives would have what they want.

  • Wow! That was truly insane.

  • Health care is a right...people in our socieity have the right to live and be pain free. Why is it that such a hard thing for the right to understand...oh I get it, it will take money out of their pockets to make that happen...

  • Wow, Media Matters, you've got to get better material if you're going to argue this side. This is the second video of yours I've watched, and for both of them it seems like you pulled the lamest parts of these shows and put them together. I noticed an out of context clip from Savage on there too. Is this really ALL you could find? Is this the BEST you could do?

  • Well, it is called Two Minutes Hate, and not Hate Uncut. What exactly were you expecting?

  • Meh, probably something with a bit more firepower. I listen to their shows, and if Media Matters wanted to do a better job they could have gotten some better clips to prove their argument. Its a bit on the weak side with the clips they picked.

  • OK first I just want to say to Mr. Savage, that is called projection. Thats what you would do, were not interested. Second to Glenn Beck talking about the right to health care...um I'm pretty sure one of the unalienable rights is Life which you need health care for. And is it just me or does it sound like he's saying that not everyone is entitled to health care? Only the rich or successful, well that sounds a little authoriatarian...borderline feudalism. Give me socialism over that any day.

  • RUSH, BECK and MICHEAL SAVAGE IS GREAT!

    MEDIAMATTERS IS AN OBAMA MEDIA WHORE!

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  • I try to find the collectivist swarm, and see if any intellectual honesty exists in their tirade's. I never see any facts just attacks. Becks an ass. Beck this and Beck that. This isn't about how you feel or what you think, its about facts. I never see any of those coming out of your posts. Your only problem is you are talking about how you feel, frankly that is worthless, when we are discussing facts.

  • I can't believe you think you are on some type of intellectual high ground? What facts would you like to discuss? You seem to believe that by using the term collectivist (i.e. liberals) as a pejorative, you have said enough. Well two could play that game...I assume your are a selfish individualist. Would that be a follower of Ayn Rand? Are you now worshiping at the feet of the corporate hegemony? Remember, "pursuing one's own self-interest does not equate to behaving brutally or irrationally"

  • Why yes Ayn does have some interesting ideas, and yes I am on the High Ground. It seems you prefer your master to be Chomsky, Pol pot would have welcomed you in comrade, his is as you would have our country, a workers paradise. The burden of proof lays with the accuser. You say Beck is a lair well show me. and yes an individualist is morally superior, In every way, because he takes responsibility for his own actions. collectivism = slavery pejorative that.

  • I've read Chomsky, and agree with many of the things written. He is not my [master]. I assume Rand's yours? She's dead. Pol Pot? I accept no association in philosophy. Show you where Beck is a liar? How about his NWO and Fema death camp rants? You show me where he is ever correct. As for moral superiority...there are descriptive and normative definitions. I assume you only choose that one that fits your view. However you (unless an anarchist) conform to the normative view of morality.

  • For a mater of fact Becks report on the fema camps actually debunked them. If instead of getting marching orders, may chance you should watch a show.

  • I've watched him a few times, on CNN, and on Fox. He's an ass. Beck has been all over the place on his FEMA death camp stance. First emphatic belief, then he eschewed any belief. Then he tacitly speaks of his continued belief on his radio shows. Quite duplicitous. For that, he is hated among the conspiracy theorists (i.e. Alex Jones types). Kudos to him for his debunking; however, why he would report on something which so obviously defies credulity in the first, is what keeps him a nut job.

  • Really so you listen to his radio show? Or someone told you this also? He is a commentator and not a reporter you know that right. Your facts where wrong where they not? asking a question or exposing misinformation like Beck did on the fema camps is good right. Or it doesn't matter to you? Its OK to be wrong just don't be ignorant.

  • Look asshole. If I said I listened to it, I listened to it. So fuck you.

    My point was, if you'd wipe the shit off your eyes, that he should not have said it in the first place. He has a responsibility - journalist or not - to understand the impact of the things he puts out. The nuts now believe that the only reason he retracted his statement on air was that he was forced to by the NWO and Illuminati. That's irresponsible. So shut the fuck up if you know not of what you speak.

  • hydin1 = that is what the loony left does not WANT! Anything & anyone "asking any questions" about all of these BILLS and who is doing what! And who will be paying for = WHAT? And how this will effect businesses and the future of our childrens and grandchildrens WORLD! The only way for any of this to be financed is to STEAL PEOPLES ESTATES WHEN THEY = DIE! It is called = Generational THEFT! And Team Obama will have no other resource to finance these socialist programs. NO OTHER = WAY! ur $=GONE

  • medumdum2, most people around the world pay far more than we do in taxes, and get much better services and security.and unless you believe that we should return to old fashioned inherited wealth,when you conserves supposedly believe in the joy of work as opposed to any kind of welfare including the rich as well, than paying some inheritance tax is the least UNDESIRABLE tax for all americans

  • BTW, what is this marching orders B.S. Funny how you assign standardized beliefs to me, when it is you who tows the line in your beliefs much more than I.

  • Conforming to the normative view of morality, you by your very existence, speak to the superiority of the collectivist view. You therefore, by your selfish individualistic view are a walking crap spewing anachronism, and therefore should not be taken seriously. I am done with you. Child.

  • I LOVE MICHAEL SAVAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Last time i checked, Jesus was known for healing people, is that a right to humans to have healthcare if the son of God does it for free? I would think so.

  • yeah humans should have the right to healthcare just so long as its not under government control..Reason look at the VA hospitals and how bad they treat verterans, do you really want to have to fight all the way up to your state senator just to get an operation ?

    Not me.

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  • LETS BE VERY CLEAR ...If you do not support OBAMA 100% you are a racist, you are a terrorist you are a Nazi.

    So remember when you are labeled a racist,Nazi Terrorist nothing you say matters.

  • I wouldn't seem so, race baiter. everyone who says its about race is the racist. The truth is a mother fucker huh.

  • So when geanene gorafalo says "people who attend tea parties is a racist" you feel that she is actually the "racist" ?

    Hey I agree with you.

  • well that public education served you well at least you can read. If you mean Janeane Garofalo the collectivist activist comedian well duh. She is left of Stalin. I hope you can find at least a smart leftist to follow. I haven't heard of geanene gorafalo if this is some leader you follow I don't know who this is. Don't be racist.

  • Now I'm confused you define jeanene garofolo as the collectivist activist comedian and as left of stalin and then in your next sentence say you havent heard of her , did you miss out on your public education ?

  • I understand you are confused that is why I am spending time tying to help you. If you would notice you misspelled both names so I wasn't sure who you where talking about, I had to guess. Or is it more collectivist intellectual dishonesty? What I mean is did you know what I was saying, and then try to play it off. That's your only weapon, Lying. Lies are combated easily with facts that is why collectivists like you are so venomous against Beck. He is shinning light on the Lie.

  • You say it with ease, calling everything that someone says a lie. But you are a hypocrite. You respond with no facts, only more lies. Your lies however are package and presented with the conservative (individualist) asshole wrapping. As if being an individualist is morally superior. Why don't you take your own advice? Here is a fact. You could right now disconnect from the internet and not avail yourself of any of the technology gained through collectivism. You can do it, that is a fact. No?

  • You obviously understood who I was talking about , I'm not sure why you are acting stupid you obviously have google and spellcheck to verify what I am saying

    maybe you are just acting an asshole for the sake of being.

  • the facts!!!!

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  • You have to understand these guys, and understand their code-speak. Each of the ones on here Savage, Beck, Limbaugh. Have a history of preaching hate speech. Savage repeatedly calls liberalism a "mental disorder", and he preaches that liberals should be exterminated. The Rats are the Liberals in congress (and in general). If you are a liberal (he surmises) you are a rat? Limbaugh has everything so twisted, you have to have a phd to understand. Democrats put a swastika on the door? WTF?

  • Maybe Savage is right,we on the left need to stand up and start slapping the shit out of all these right wing lying lunatics.

  • And the hate in those comments are...

  • These guys have the right to say anything they want.

    And I have the right to make fun of them for being craaaazy assholes.

  • OK. So we have something from the declaration of independence; one of our guiding documents. What is your point?

  • So coy so collective so right. You get the point Don't you. and it makes your collectivist pussy queef. Your time for self worship is near its end. Americans wont give up their republic. A terrible miscalculation by the fascists wouldn't you agree. That Document Talks about Liberty which this power grab would remove. live free

  • Note: I do not accept (Reject) your assignment of the definition of collectivists to liberals. I do not accept the term collectivist as purely a liberal/progressive political definition. As I do not believe that an Individualist by definition is necessarily politically aligned with conservatism or libertarianism for that matter. Rand's prism was skewed, her definition presupposes a closer alignment between economic and political systems as were seen in her homeland. BTW I don't have a pussy.

  • well said, you got it right. I reject any system that would usurp my freedom. I hold no political affiliation, and what I am saying isn't conservative. Its about the inherent rights of man. That cant be given or removed by man except by force. Tyrannical rule always seems to be in the best interest of the people at first. This is a power grab that was a long time in its coming, bush, obama, same big government collectivism.

  • I personally believe that Michael Savage is the most dangerous of the right wing fearmongerers. He tells his listeners that the government will kill or imprison them for speaking their mind, and seriously, I believe he is going to try, or at least talk about, starting a revolution soon. He is a dangerous man, but sadly there is nothing we can do.

  • Michael Savage?...that guy is a piker compared to DOLLS EYES = Keif OLd HAM!..........he foams at the mouth like a rabid CHIwaWAA..........and sounds like Manson =CONsipracy FEAR=ees and all

  • There's nothing you can do? How about committing yourself to the rights of others to the freedom of the press and to freedom of speech? How about educating yourself so you know what's going on? Instead you rumor monger. Michael Savage does not preach violence ever. He's not talking about starting a revolution.

  • All three are correct. Yes, we want savage off the air and are working hard to accomplish just that. Freedom of SCREECH is not in the Bill of Rights.

    Limbaugh, we already do go to other countries for health care. It's cheaper over all to fly to India and get a needed surgery, than have it done in America and your treated well.

    And Beck, your so right. Many do rely on prayer for healing, sometimes it's all we have.

  • Why don't you just move to China? That way, anyone you don't like, you can not only take them off the air. You can send them to special reeducation camps too. Except that someone might get sick and tired of your know it all smug self righteousness and toss you in a reeducation camp along with Savage.

  • Blah blah blah. Why don't you move? You're the one ruining our country. Unfortunately, you can't time travel back to the places you dream about, Nazi Germany or Mississippi circa 1950.

  • Hussein Obama is working overtime to turn this country into a third world country made up exclusively of welfare recipients and I'm the one ruining our country? There. Conclusive proof that medical marijuana should be abolished and that you need to stop smoking marijuana entirely.

  • No I'm not going to abandon my country because of what it's turned into over the last few years. I want to restore it to it's civility and honor, as I remember it to be before neo-cons started worshiping the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and Beck. As I've said, there is nothing in the bill of rights that allows for Freedom of SCREECH.

  • There's more to the Constitution than the Bill of Rights. And then there is that pesky problem of the First Amendment. Many nations don't have freedom of speech and freedom of the press. In fact, most nations don't. They really are things America has which allows America to right itself when it goes off track as it has under Bush and Obama. It will allow America to vote out the Terrorist Appeaser Hussein Obama and get America back to work.

  • electango...been reading your post for awhile now, and you occasionally intersperse wonderfully cogent thoughts with sheer lunacy. Perhaps that's what makes many conservatives so believable, BRAVO. Obama appeased terrorists? And America is not working? Hmmm, unemployment has risen, yes, but that rise started some time ago, and with the adjusted numbers is showing decrease in decline rate. You speak of the constitution, yet speak of undermining the constitution. An election was held, Obama won.

  • Of course Obama is a terrorist appeaser. First thing he did as President was to go meet with dictator Hugo Chavez. And he's been trying to make nice with Ahmedinejad and Bashar Al Assad as well. He goes overseas and says we're sorry for being such imperialists. That's called appeasement because Iran, China, Venezuela, Cuba and all the people he's apologizing to on behalf of the American people are just as imperialistic as we are. Worst of all, his appeasement strategy is a total failure.

  • Nobody knows which way the economy is going. I'm hearing a lot of positive talk, but people are often in denial. With all the deficit spending Obama is doing--it's unprecedented in scope BTW--this house of cards could come crashing down. And with all this, Obama's remaking health care which is a huge part of our economy. This guy is out of control and people like you are in a state of denial which is astonishing. It's time to wake up and really smell the coffee.

  • Wow. So if no one knows which way the economy is going, then how do you know that Obama is driving in the wrong direction? Curious? I also find it interesting that if I disagree with you, then [I am] asleep. Again, curious? Its always a amusing to read what you think. Cheers!

  • Obama is not working night and day on getting people back to work. Instead he's bailing out corrupt Wall Street firms and expecting those crooks to get the economy back into a hiring mode. What good does it do to print hundreds of billions of new money and give it to banks if there's no mechanism to force those banks to loan that money out to people who will start hiring workers? Obama and his advisors have spent too much time in academia and the bureaucracy to understand the real world.

  • I think I might take Rush Limbaugh's offer.

  • TWO MINUTES TRUTH!

  • Christians support healthcare for everyone.  So does God.

  • Republicans have destroyed the United States.

  • Rush Limbaugh should move to China.

  • ya! thats right i remember it in the bible: the leper came to jesus and said " oh lord, please heal me", jesus replied " not with out an insurance card! " or the time that jesus found the paralytic man who asked to be healed and jesus said "what are you, some kind of socialist?." or the time that crazy blind guy asked to be healed and jesus said " sorry, you have a pre existing condition." good times good times.

  • show of hands... who would be AGAINST an organized campaign to kill all the neocons?

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  • are you going to throw your hand bags at us.

  • Same propaganda....different day

    Since these neo cons are allowed to flat out lie to the American public with politically and racially charged propaganda under the guise of free speech, we should b allowed to do the same to them. Right?

  • ... but Beck... remember LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS?

    None of those is possible without good health, maintained by a better-some-than-none health care system.

  • The reason God is not coming down to give us health care is because the ppl in charge can do it themselves but evidently they don't want to. For some reason.

  • super stickman,because we are SELFISH

  • Well what is a god given right in these politically charged non-sense, fact-free and right wing biased days. It is so hard for these fringe and media republican nut jobs to understand the basic concept of civil rights. Aside from freedom of expression and speech, American Civil liberties also entails equal access to things like education....and HEALTH CARE. The fringe should not be so focused on creating a competition free health care environment. And get blue crosses dick out of their mouth.

  • Um, Glen, if you really do believe the fairy tales of the Gospel stories, Jesus would be healing sick people and say we need to take care of the poor. If Jesus were to step into the real world, Beck et. al. would be railing about how he's a socialist.

  • "God doesn't give healthcare. Man provides healthcare."

    And man creates "God." Glenn Beck's a tardo ^_^

  • Tardo=best word ever. hehe.

  • That clip contained some of the Glenn Beckiest lines I've ever heard from Glenn Beck.

  • Free speech has really become a sewer line!!!!!!!!!!

  • These people are FUCKING beyond insane!

  • If Jesus were real and living in America today, i can't even imagine the hateful things these so called Christians would say about him.

  • Savage is insane.

  • The last part by Beck was absolute nonsense and made me cringe.

  • just the last part...I cringed through the whole 2 minutes

  • God doesn't give Healthcare? No fucking shit. How can the nonexistent give anything?

    Healthcare is a right.

  • Healthcare is a product of labor. Making the product of labor a right is legalizing slavery.

  • What's the difference when the corporations doing it for a profit then?

  • I honestly laughed when Beck started crying about his disabled daughter.

    That shit was hilarious.

  • Obama is an angry little racist... and he has big ears.

    See that? I just made 2 arguments: A conservative one (relevant) and a liberal one (irrelevant)

    I'm a centrist!

  • Hello, communists!

    Just wanted to say hi, and let you know you're all going to be destroyed.

    See you later!

  • They are in danger of overplaying their hand and they know it.

  • Yep!

    It's actually a pretty lame attempt... did they really think a thin smokescreen from a discredited MSM would numb Americans to the point where they gave their country away?

    It's going to be great to see them fall... very entertaining!

  • The collectivist are unaware of what you are even saying. They live in small enclaves of liberal bias and get their information from corporations that control their soft minds to their own benefit. We need to help them free their minds from the sickness that holds them. Don't be to eager to see this fall it may not be ugly. live free

  • That's what you got? Typical neo-con. Can't tell a joke to save his life (or get one for that matter.) Let's break down your ill-logic. I'm a communist because I'm trying to defend our country from fascists like you? You will be the cause of your own destruction.

  • dimwit,dimwit, you birthers,teabaggers and assorted whack-jobs are going to be the cause of your own ruin.

  • I'm getting so sick and tired of these insane backward republican assholes still bitter about losing the election. Why don't they leave America like they used to say "love it or leave it" why don't they shoot themselves in the head for being traitors and not supporting the president like they demanded under Bush? Bunch of bitter hypocrite assholes. We need to move forward as a united nation and all they do is hold us back with their petty, narrow minded, selfish bullshit arguments.

  • Thanks for the laugh! You're so uninformed it's amusing...

  • I just looked at your recent activity- it says a lot about you:

    You have naive opinions, and no facts. Most of the time, you're distracted by irrelevant shit. You haven't researched a damn thing, and don't plan to. You're ignorant, uninformed, and easy to manipulate. If you really had any clue what was going on, you'd be only interested in one thing- WHAT IS HAPPENING TO AMERICA.

    Go back to sleep, slave. Stop making a fool of yourself.

  • I watch videos to entertain myself and have a good laugh, then once in a while I tell crazy reich wing republicunt assholes like you to kill yourselves. BTW I set my channel like that on purpose so people can see what I watched, you're not clever at all, so suck a dick. I hope you end up in a FEMA prison or one of those FEMA plastic caskets with a bullet between your eyes for being a traitor separatist bitter about losing the landslide elections and trying to start shit where there was none.

  • N37BU6 = when i posted yesterday = "McMedia is scared about = TRUTH" = immediatley took down my post......the video showing on YouTube entitled: ....little girl who saw MEAN SIGNS at Obama Town Hall PLANTED............ = disappered and then a SEA of "uniformed" drones ~~~~SWARMED around the collective hive of YOmama and zzzzzzzzzz in fury because TRUTH is like = RAID to them!

  • You got it right. live free

  • hydin1 - i am now officailly FOR any person running for office that wants THE DEAD WEIGHT of Government off our backs! These couch sitters and people who love Senators and Reps. & PrezCzars who are LYING BY OMMISION -ALL need to get the BOOT! And anyone who removes taxes and rules off every piece of LINT they feel= entitiled to RULE that come near you and me are DRONES! People I know will not even start New Business because if they MAKE A LOT OF MONEY = Obama & Comp are now PoOZED to = STEAL IT!

  • medumdum2,i am for anyone who can discredit the birthers,and the teabaggers,and the other assorted whack jobs of the g.o.p. and their proxies and expose them for the professional agitators they correctly are

  • Better Dead than Red, but you pole smoker are like girls you wont be to much trouble.

  • We're all itching for an excuse to do away with douchebags like so you can't hold back the country with your racist separatist hick bullshit any more. You're like the crazies who used to protest against firehouses because "it wasn't your responsibility some idiot let the stove on at night". We did away with those morons back then and moved the nation forward like we will do away with crazies like you today (like we kicked your kind out of office on the last landslide election).

  • What is Savage's problem? He talked about actually killing muslims and said horrible things about Islam-which is why he is banned from the UK. What is his problem about him being misquoted or his nasty speech being out of context when there's proof of him saying those things?

  • Wait, didn't Jesus heal the sick and cure the blind, that kind of thing?

    And, yeah, I think there's a command in there about being fruitful and multiplying too, isn't there. I guess it never occurred to Mr Beck that neither of those things are really possible if you're dead, dying or crushed by debt because you had the temerity to get sick one day.

    Also, I'm pretty sure God never said a thing about free speach, right to bear arms or universal suffrage. Though he did mention slavery... woot?

  • orbis ferrum, but we're talking about AMERICAN JESUS. and he has blond crew cutted hair. and he speaks in g.o.p. talking points.worshipped by AMERICAN CHRISTIANS. a christianity that too is g.o.p. talking points. think of pat robertson.

  • Did he cure the sick by enslaving others? No.

  • Well you could argue that religion is a form of slavery just as much as you could argue that public health care is likewise a form of slavery.

    Therefore you could argue that yes, Jesus enslaved people when he healed them and furthermore that such stories about his miracles have also enslaved generations of mankind.

  • You couldn't argue that effectively since religion is voluntary and taxes are not.

    In your analogy, Jesus would have stolen money from someone to pay for a doctor for someone else. That isn't how the story goes. And government is not a deity.

  • You would think so but I think it's pretty clear that the history of religion says otherwise particularly in ancient times when Jesus lived. Although rel is no longer as dogmatic as it once was people. incl children are still being indoctrinated not only in the third world but also in the first. loss of free will = slavery.

    In my analogy I never make any such claims because the latter is absurd (and irrelevant) and the former has nothing to do with slavery.

  • That isn't a loss of free will, although the sick practice of genital mutilation among Jews and the ritualized pedophilia (as the Rabbi licks the blood) along with it seems to be.

  • Really? you call an institution (religion) which historically subjugated people, forced women into an inferior role, demanded money and unquestioning obedience from its followers and has been in bed with tyrants as perfectly in tune with democratic ideals? Religion doesn't involve the loss of free will and it never has? History disagrees with you on that one.

    But I digress: my point was that throwing around a word like slavery serves no purpose if you don't actually understand what it means.

  • No such thing as "democratic ideals." And a democracy voting for such a relationship with a church would be democratic. In Germany they take your tithing right from your paycheck - imagine that!

    And what you are describing are the actions of a Church, not a religion per se.

  • 1) ah, so you're saying there's no guiding principle behind democracy? You mean, things like suffrage and positive rights, that sort of thing?

    2) No, not undemocratic but it might be in violation of a constitution and may in general be a bad idea to marry the church and state like that.

    3) Religion is the ideological underpinning that permits churches to do these things: so much so that Church and religion were indistinguishable in ancient times and still today in some countries.

  • 1) Suffrage would not be a principle of democracy but a means to it. You have NO RIGHTS under a democracy. It simply amazes me how few people understand this. In a democracy you only have priviledges that the MOB lets you have.

    2) What would be that Constitution that would inhibit democracy that way? Why wouldn't they just vote to change the Constitution, then?

    3) Church is entirely distinguishable - most of them are legal corporations or 501c3 orgs.

  • 1) any HS student can tell you that democracy is rule of the people (or mob if you prefer). suffrage enforces that rule and rights balance things out so that the mob doesn't become a tyrant. democratic ideals = ind. freedom balanced with collective will.

    2) They could but under specific rules though it is largely irrelevant. Democracy doesn't absolutely require the sep of church and state. It's just reasonable to do so. people can do what they want w/taxes. it doesn't change my original point.

  • 1) Unless you have limited democracy, you aren't going to have any rights.

    2) Again, that will only be with a limited democracy

    3) Then you could argue that History is slavery. Where does it end? They are both just taught beliefs and both have an impact on behavior.

  • 3) Again, this is where I point out that the ideological underpinnings that enforced this physical slavery and still enforces a sort of mental or spiritual slavery (independent of the Church) is still religion per se (if you believe that religion is slavery anyways).

    My original point was that just as you could argue that HC is slavery you could just as easily argue that religion is slavery - and it's clear that at least for a good portion of hum. history this is true

    ergo we're going in circles

  • Glenn can shove his imaginary friend right up his fat ass.

  • If socialized health care is so bad why the fuck is Limbaugh suggesting that we take a train to Canada for treatment? And apostates like Beck should not be allowed to bring Jesus into any debate. Jesus was kind to poor people, and women

  • Savage's first quote perfectly described what the right is doing. Project much?

  • I guess Rush doesn't know that the following statement is actually TWO SENTENCES!

    "You're sick? Here's a ticket to Canada"

  • glenns last comment made me vomit.

  • holy fuck....these guys are insane.....

  • I wonder if Jeebus heals gonorrhea...

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  • Glenn, you're an idiot!

    It says in your retarded book that Jesus can heal the sick and you just have to pray!

    You idiot!

    Ugh! D<

  • He is an idiot for bringing up religion period in a "debate" over government health care and rights

  • I think the really sad thing about this health care issue is that the health insurance companies are going to go bankrupt whether it passes or not. They have a completely unsustainable business model. Whatever you do, don't buy their stock. But they are pulling out all the stops to stop the bill. Beck, Limbaugh, et al, of course are enjoying the adulation from those credulous americans they are stirring up. Believers in these men need some critical thinking training,

  • Jesus doesn't provide protection from other people either. So does that mean that we can kill each other until Jesus comes to stop us?

  • The more publicity that these Hate radio folks get is bad news for the repubs. Most americans are reasoned middlle of the road people what want nothing to do with the likes of these Hate radio folks. the repubs are going to pay dearly in 2010.

  • "They would be talking about the facts"

    We fucking are Mr. Glenn Beck, but when dumbasses come out and say they fear and want their country back and say to Senators "God will judge you" they are stupid people, they are crazies, and we have every fucking right to call um that. I hate Glenn Beck with a passion.

  • We are talking about the facts, but they're too stupid to listen, so we call them morons and racists, because that's why they're protesting. Have you noticed all these people are old, and retired? THEY HAVE MEDICARE, THEY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY. Us working class want affordable healthcare and we're not gonna let a bunch of old racists who get single-payer healthcare, get in our way.